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3341  Local / Projektentwicklung / Re: TreuCoin - ein Treuhandservice on: January 26, 2013, 04:55:57 PM
Nehms mir nicht übel, aber das riecht stark nach Abzocke.

Als erstes solltest Du Dir vielleicht mal eine Domain zulegen
und wenn Du schon die Serverkosten als Rechtfertigung für hohe Gebühren hernimmst, dann solltest Du auch einen Server mieten und nicht einfach ne Sub-Domain von einer Pony-Webseite (?) missbrauchen.
In dem "BitcoinShop" den man nach kurzem rum-browsen entdeckt, findet sich kein Impressum, es ist also fast davon auszugehen, das auch Dein TreuCoin keins bekommen wird.

Zumindest bislang gibts also keinen Grund, der für die Nutzung Deines Services spricht, aber viele Gründe, sehr skeptisch zu sein.

Ich bin gespannt.

3342  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Linden dollars or w/e they are, for free, if it's possible to send on: January 26, 2013, 12:04:39 PM
I'll take 'em, there's always time for a taco, or 4. Cheesy
Feel free to send them to SL Avatar Name: Nelson Swindlehurst

3343  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help me with reading blockchain transactions please on: January 25, 2013, 08:22:04 PM
You buy something for 2 bucks, hand out a $10 bill and get $8 back as change.
The same happens here, you have 1 transaction of 0.28BTC in your wallet, want to send 0.2 to someone and get 0.08 back as change.

As simple as that.
3344  Local / Mining (Deutsch) / Re: Minen mit i3 (ein core) on: January 24, 2013, 10:25:10 PM
Taschengeld erhöhen ist super,
aber Dir ist schon klar, daß Du mit ein paar täglichen Klicks auf Free-mBTC-Webseiten mehr "verdienen" würdest, oder?
Und selbst das ist schon nervig und den Klick nicht wirklich wert.  Wink
3345  Local / Mining (Deutsch) / Re: Minen mit i3 (ein core) on: January 24, 2013, 10:01:01 PM
Kommt drauf an, wie schnell der Core läuft.
Wird wohl nicht so schnell sein, also spekuliere ich einfach mal mit 2,5MH/s (kannst ja testen und sagen, wieviel MH/s er tatsächlich schafft):

Mit 2,5MH/s schaffst Du bei momentaner Difficulty von 2968775 pro Tag etwa 0,0004235BTC,
wenn man davon ausgeht, das sich die Difficulty in den nächsten paar Jahren nicht ändert, bräuchtest Du etwa
2360Tage, oder 6,5 Jahre, um 1BTC zu erwirtschaften.

Viel Glück. Cheesy

Achja: ich hab noch vergessen zu erwähnen, daß innerhalb dieser ~6,5Jahre der Blockreward nochmal halbiert wird, es werden also (selbst bei konstanter Difficulty) eher 8-10Jahre werden, mit steigender Difficulty (wovon auszugehen ist) wohl doppelt soviel.
Ist das dein Renten-Plan?  Grin
3346  Local / Mining (Deutsch) / Re: Solomining Frage on: January 24, 2013, 06:00:39 PM
Was zeigt der denn für die shares für eine Difficulty an?

Find ich halt bisschen komisch, Solo ist die Difficulty nunmal bei ~3millionen, wenn man einen "share" mit Diff 3millionen findet, ist das praktisch schon ein Block. Wenn man keinen findet, gibts auch nix anzuzeigen.
3347  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASIC or other fast homemade machine will kill BTC on: January 24, 2013, 05:51:06 PM
before ASIC, we can say "everyone use same cpu or gpu and mining in a pool to get little btc and support the network working"
but now we must say "everyone is mining with a machine, well, the machine is made a guy well known in btc world, the guy made all machines and he doesn't play the game." hey, am i talking about pyramid schemes?
>50% of all BTC that will ever exist are already mined and on the market.
Even if a single person mines all the remaining coins (which is highly unlikely), it wouldn't turn Bitcoin into a pyramid scheme somehow

if ASIC kick all GPU out, the market will never be a free market, for a long time it'll be in a mass and controlled by several ASIC manufactures.
ASICs will kick GPUs out just the same way as GPUs kicked CPUs out, but that doesn't change the market.

It's not miners that drive the market, it's buyers and sellers, supply and demand.
The demand isn't changed in any way by miners at all, the supply more or less fixed, the number of coins mined per day/week is always the same, no matter if there's just 1 guy mining, or a million guys, no matter what hardware they use.

3348  Local / Mining (Deutsch) / Re: Solomining Frage on: January 24, 2013, 05:33:31 PM
Weiß grad nich, was MPBM ist,
aber wenns so aussieht, als wenns läuft, dann läufts wohl.  Grin

Was mich jedoch ein wenig wundert ist, welche shares Dir in grün mit Difficulty angezeigt werden,
da es beim Solo-Mining ansich garkeine shares gibt.

Sobald Du einen Block gefunden hast, siehst Du das im Bitcoin-QT, da gibts dann eine neue Transaktion von 25.xxBTC, mit dem Hinweis, daß die erzeugt und nicht empfangen wurden.
Bitcoin-QT erstellt dafür in der Regel eine neue Adresse, die musst Du nicht extra angeben.
3349  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASIC or other fast homemade machine will kill BTC on: January 24, 2013, 11:41:25 AM
I don't get it.

If you don't trust that guy, don't give him any of your money.
If that guy already has your money and only want's to scam you anyway, why would he even bother creating a product and not just take your money and run?
If he doesn't run and actually creates a product that could make him more money, why would he bother attacking the network?

 
3350  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASIC or other fast homemade machine will kill BTC on: January 24, 2013, 09:28:46 AM
thanks for reply, i'd like to discuss about it. if i'm wrong i'll be very happy.
u talked about gold.
but gold is different.
in the ancient time, people like gold just because it looks wonderful and rare and easy to store.
now we know it's really rare.
but if alchemy can change something to gold.
do u think gold it worthy?

The point is, ASICs are not a philosopher's stone to Bitcoin,
they are no secret alchemy that could change something to BTC by some math-magic.
ASICs are just better shovels, they work the same way as old shovels, they just dig deeper, bigger holes, because they're hydrauilic.

If you throw enough money on FPGAs, or GPUs and electricity, today, you can also try to attack the network (if that's your main concern),
it has always been possible with enough resources/enough money to spend, the thing is, that if you have that much resources/money, it's more profitable to be an "honest miner" than to attack the network (which doesn't make you any profit at all).

With ASICS nothing changes.


3351  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASIC or other fast homemade machine will kill BTC on: January 24, 2013, 07:04:39 AM
What makes it less perfect now?

When everyone was mining on CPUs, those with more money were able to afford more CPUs than others,
when everyone was mining  on GPUs, those with more money were able to afford more GPUs than others,
when everyone will be mining on ASICs, those with more money will be able to afford more ASICs.

If you have a shitload of money to spend, you can go ahead and try to attack the network.
I don't see any big changes there.
3352  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Maximize hash rate on my crummy processor? on: January 24, 2013, 05:07:18 AM
money is tight and I'm really interested in mining my own BTC.

If you're interested in mining your own BTC, you'll have to get some decent hardware to do so.
You don't really try to use your bicycle when you're interested in traveling 300miles per hour, do you?
While (in contrast to 300mph on a bike) mining your own BTC even works with 5MH/s, it's not really worth the hassle,
you'd probably get more BTC by clicking some of those free-mBTC-links every day without mining at all.
 
3353  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: silk road!!!! was haltet ihr davon? on: January 24, 2013, 02:59:34 AM
Warum eigentlich überhaupt noch Dinge regulieren...wenn wir Drogen erlauben, einfach alle Gesetze aufheben.
Gegen eine Regulierung des Drogenmarktes hat (bzw hätte) ja keiner was,
das Problem ist ja genau, das durch die Illegalisierung/Kriminalisierung eine Regulierung garnicht möglich ist.

Wie f4tal1ty schon schrieb, ist es völlig egal, was die Regierungen beschließen, das ändert am Konsumverhalten garnichts.
Völlig egal, ob man den Leuten mit lebenslanger Haft droht, Verfahren wegen "geringer Menge" gleich eingestellt werden, oder garnicht erst ermittelt wird, der Konsum ändert sich nicht.

Und auch das Argument mit den medizinischen Folgekosten für Abhängige zieht nicht, denn diese Kosten enstehen doch sowieso, die Allgemeinheit hat diese Kosten heute schon am Hals, wo Drogen böse und verboten sind und sie hätte diese Kosten auch dann am Hals, wenn Drogen in der Apotheke, oder im Tabak-/Schnaps-Laden zu kaufen wären. Es macht schlichtweg keinen Unterschied.

Finanziell ist die Sache eher genau umgekehrt,
die Allgemeinheit hat jetzt höhere Kosten, als es mit einer Legalisierung der Fall wäre.
Jetzt zahlt die Allgemeinheit nichtnur die Therapiekosten für Abhängige, sie zahlt auchnoch den (sinnlosen) Krieg gegen die Drogen.
Gäbe es diesen Krieg nichtmehr, könnte man nichtnur die Kriegs-Kosten streichen, man würde sogar Einnahmen erzielen, die wiederum die Allgemeinheit von den Therapiekosten entlasten würde.

Produzenten, Händler, Konsumenten und die Allgemeinheit, alle würden von einer Legalisierung profitieren.
Die einzigen, denen eine Legalisierung vermutlich nicht gefallen würde, sind die Drogen-Kartelle und Schmuggler-Ringe,
eben die, denen die jetzige Kriminalisierung nützt.

Die eigentliche Frage ist also nicht, was passiert "..wenn wir Drogen erlauben..", sondern eher wem es nützt, wenn wir sie verbieten.
Die Antwort darauf ist einfach und offensichtlich, nur will sie keiner hören. Cheesy
3354  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A possible answer to the "How do I get bitcoins" question. on: January 20, 2013, 09:55:07 PM
There will probably be a lot of people checking the from-paypal-to-my-wallet way so I just tried that.

What you offer there is VirWox, which isn't bad or wrong, but a little more complicated and also (and even more important) a little more expensive than what the overview shows me.

First thing is, that on VirWox you can only buy or sell Integer amounts of BTC, so when your paypal-customers buy SLL to trade them for BTC they'll end up with some SLL left that they can not use, which adds up to the estimated fees.
That's obviously worth mentioning and also makes it hard to calculate the overall costs involved.

On the last step (VirWox-wallet to home-wallet) it tells me that a ".. btc to btc account generally incurs a fee of 0.0005 BTC..", which doesn't really matter here, because it is no general btc to btc account transfer.
Withdrawal of BTC (any amount) from VirWox comes with a 0.02BTC fee (and might take anything from 2-72hrs).

Not complaining, I like the idea of a quick overview of how and where and what do I get,
you just should know and maybe add some info about it so your users know too.



3355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ASIC will crash litecoin on: January 20, 2013, 08:57:21 PM

Sure, the overall supply is constant, with more miners, that supply is also spread across more people.
What do these people do, besides selling for BTC?
I don't actually get why there are ANY buyers at all, but with more miners the number of buyers probably doesn't change.
More potential sellers + same number of buyers == lower prices.

But hey, dream your dream, it's all yours, it might come true someday. Wink


What do people do with gold bullion?  Eat it?
LOL
Are you serious? I guess not.
You hoard it until it's worth more.  I think it's reasonable to assume that the more money it costs you to produce, the less likely you are to sell it.
If you want to hoard it, ok.
What I don't get is why you think it'll become worth more.
Higher prices come with a growing economy and have nothing todo with how hard or costly something is to produce, with more miners there is no growing LTC-economy, the demand doesn't grow.

People switching their GPUs to LTC probably just do it, because they might get more BTC that way, at least that's the only reason I can think of. So it's BTC they want, not LTC.
When there's actually no other use for LTC, all those people want to sell their LTC for BTC as quickly as possible, result is a lower price, not a higher one.

But that's just my opinion,
it's your life, your choice.
3356  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Intersango safe? on: January 20, 2013, 06:06:46 PM
I would never trust the intersango-operators (with their current, or any other future projects) and wouldn't recommend anyone else to.
It's a gang of scammers and liars, if anything (!) goes wrong, they'll most probably take your money and run.

Just sayin'.
3357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ASIC will crash litecoin on: January 20, 2013, 06:58:10 AM
So logic then says that since more miners will switch to LTC, the price will go up even higher!
So your logic is more miners == higher price?
Not miners drive the price, it's supply and demand that drives the price. Demand doesn't really change so it's doubtful that there's more buyers, but with more miners, there's more potential sellers, simply because there's nothing else besides BTC that they could buy with LTC.

One needs a good imagination to dream of a rising price here.  Smiley

Supply is constant regardless of number of miners
You might have noticed  that I didn't say anything about the supply, but about more potential sellers.

Sure, the overall supply is constant, with more miners, that supply is also spread across more people.
What do these people do, besides selling for BTC?
I don't actually get why there are ANY buyers at all, but with more miners the number of buyers probably doesn't change.
More potential sellers + same number of buyers == lower prices.

But hey, dream your dream, it's all yours, it might come true someday. Wink
3358  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The hoarding problem on: January 20, 2013, 01:29:14 AM
The supply of Gold to all intents and purposes is limitless,

A total of 171,300 tonnes of gold have been mined in human history, according to GFMS as of 2011.[2] This is roughly equivalent to 5.5 billion troy ounces or, in terms of volume, about 8876 m3, or a cube 20.7 m on a side.
Doesn't seem so limitless to me.

bit coins only have 21million.
21million what?
Look again at the wiki-quote about gold above, there's only 1 cube 20.7 m on a side of gold, a single one! Compared to that 21million sounds like A LOT.  Cheesy
3359  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: SLL to BTC on: January 18, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
Accepting SLL inworld is as risky as accepting PayPal.
You might not only lose the SLL traded, but also access to your avatar/account.

Just saying, be careful who you trade with. If you don't know and fully trust them, think twice about it.  Wink
3360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ASIC will crash litecoin on: January 18, 2013, 04:05:17 PM
So logic then says that since more miners will switch to LTC, the price will go up even higher!
So your logic is more miners == higher price?
Not miners drive the price, it's supply and demand that drives the price. Demand doesn't really change so it's doubtful that there's more buyers, but with more miners, there's more potential sellers, simply because there's nothing else besides BTC that they could buy with LTC.

One needs a good imagination to dream of a rising price here.  Smiley
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