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3361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 30, 2014, 12:59:16 PM
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3362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [KEY] KeyCoin - X13 - Fair Lnch - 3 Lg. Exchanges - Anon Peer Review+ on: July 30, 2014, 12:50:21 PM
Could anybody answer me please if there is a MAC wallet available or not !?!?!
Tx
3363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [KEY] KeyCoin - X13 - Fair Lnch - 3 Lg. Exchanges - Anon Peer Review+ on: July 30, 2014, 08:40:09 AM
Total coins?

Approx 913,000 now, with a small increase each year at the current POS rate.

At the current rate we should still be lower than 1 million by 2015.

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/key/

For this coin supply this price is a joke now. Cheesy
Waiting for leaving the station, my moon train.

Just hit a double top. Good sign that the price is staying near the top too.

449,175 KEY on Bittrex. That's 500btc worth of KEY on the exchange. Dump some guys. I got buy orders waiting.

Graph http://altcoingraphs.com/bittrex/graphs/price/120690
dangerous having half the supply of a POS coin on one exchange..vericoin/mintpal didn't even happen long ago. People should stake not day trade

wish i could find a wallet (MAC) and then i could pull mine out , as i do not trust the exchange !!!!
3364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [KEY] KeyCoin - X13 - Mine Now! on: July 30, 2014, 08:17:45 AM
Hey guys, help me out please:

The MAC Wallet on page 1 does not work on my 10.9.4 Machine ?!
Any idea where i can get a new version ??
tx


this one does not work
https://mega.co.nz/#!cAJhhQaI!SQuZXkcJ2a2uc5jYQanZ3ZQue5p_y35aA-EQsgPq18Q

any tips where i can find one ?
PLEASE
 Grin
3365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [KEY] KeyCoin - X13 - Mine Now! on: July 30, 2014, 08:05:22 AM
Hey guys, help me out please:

The MAC Wallet on page 1 does not work on my 10.9.4 Machine ?!
Any idea where i can get a new version ??
tx
3366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 30, 2014, 07:52:04 AM
I've been hovering around on this forum for a while now and I am heavily invested in DRK . To say it's been a wild ride (in regards to the pricing extremes) would obviously be an understatement, but that's all part of the excitement of being involved in something so revolutionary. What I'm picking up though so clearly, when you consider the many varying viewpoints about DRK and anon-crypto in general, is a distinct lack of understanding by some of our more infamous participants on this thread as to what privacy and anonymity actually means at this point in humanity's development.

I'd just like to articulate a couple of key aspects around this which may help some who're very negatively vocal on here obtain a greater understanding of why privacy and anonymity of financial transactions is so important.

The world in 2014 is not the same as it was even just a few years ago. The twin disasters (from the perspective of most governments and their spy/spook agencies) of the Julian Assange/Wikileaks and Edward Snowden/NSA exposure have highlighted to us just how incredibly deep, systemic and widespread is the monitoring of other governments' and citizens' private communications and transactions. It's likely that what we learned in all that uncovering is but the tip of the iceberg. When you look at some of the programs and initiatives going on like the daily state-sponsored assassination of militants in distant lands via remote controlled drones and the incredibly draconian alterations to freedom-of-speech rights curtailing journalists' ability to operate without transgressing some anti-terrorism laws, you can see that Big Brother is just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And Mr & Mrs Joe Public are completely and utterly clueless that their rights to live freely in functioning democracies are slowly being whittled away. Like the frog in the proverbial slowly heating water, most people are blissfully unaware that "freedom" is being eroded bit by little bit by forces that are so well disguised and so entrenched, there's almost no comprehension of the dangers facing society from within the task master mega-behemoth governments we've supposedly "voted" to protect us. There is an Orwellian undercurrent going on that is making themes portrayed in fiction like Animal Farm, 1984 and V for Vendetta ever more likely.

What I hear again and again from one of our more vocal criticisers on here are thoughts along the lines of "Corporations aren't going to use Darkcoin. There's just no way they'll trust some unknown crypto currency" and "The government's not going to allow it" an "You guys are kidding yourselves if you think this could become mainstream". Against a backdrop of regulated banking, mainstream financial services and the juggernaut payment processors such as Visa, Mastercard, Western Union, yes absolutely, Darkcoin looks about as likely to succeed in this area as any other little known "techie style" technological breakthrough. But this is where the short-term thinking that's not taking in the bigger picture is so flawed. Every new technology that's ever been developed that disrupts currently entrenched markets and processes goes through several phases:

1. Some brilliant person comes up with the idea and develops early proof-of-concept examples;
2. A whole bunch of early adopters are inspired and jump into the ring to be involved and support it;
3. As it starts to take off, hundreds of people who want part of the action get involved too (but they're often very impatient, want results immediately and start mouthing off like they're experts even though no one's likely to have guaranteed them anything);
4. The technology begins to be noticed by the mainstream and corporations/governments who will potentially have their revenues heavily affected by it and hence start jockeying for position to regulate/control it or kill it off altogether;
5. Lots of serious money starts flooding in and prices go to the moon but (due to classic pyramid expansion) crashes happen as substantial numbers of those who got in in early get out with astounding profits and thousands of people suffer serious losses by walking away from their investments;
6. But meanwhile, the original visionary and early supporters stay the course and keep beavering away;
7. After vast numbers of the public end up very wary and distrustful of whatever the new technology is, people that do "get it" work away on associated products/services and an eco-system around the new technology starts to develop;
8. Before long it's being talked about positively again and then mainstream organisations start adopting it (but this can take years/decades even);
9. It's then on TV, in films, in newspapers, in supermarkets (thinks iTunes pre-paid cards for example);
10. It's then so ubiquitous and no one can even imagine why they thought it was something to be so fearful of (think Internet banking/shopping).

Now, after more than 30 years working in the IT industry (I started my career driving a van around fixing Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-11s; a realm not too many of you would know about I would think) I have seen the cycle I've described above play out many times. What's different with Darkcoin is the tectonic shifts going on in regards to huge overbearing governments that have cooked the books with money printing (QE I,II,III is over $4tril now), ZIRP (zero interest rate policy) and created welfare states with a sense of entitlement within the population that's like nothing that's ever existed in the history of man. These tectonic shifts in society and how governments "govern" are going to facilitate all new desires to within many people to take charge of one's personal finances and prevent the ever deepening scrutiny. Deep down underneath the pat little nightly newscast financial summary of the Dow, the S&P 500, the gold price, how much a barrel of oil is and what the exchange rate is of wherever you are against the US$, is manipulation, control, subversion and domination that is beyond anything Mr & Mrs Joe Public has any comprehension of, nor indeed desire to know about. "Bread and circuses" for the middle classes keep our governments able to function with almost complete immunity, while the vast gulf between the haves and have-nots just widens. Massive change though is but moments away, especially in light of this house-of-cards economic fragility courtesy of central bankers who have completely ruined the world economy's potential to self-heal. Privacy and anonymity are nice notions at the moment but very soon they're going to be must-haves. What might look somewhat dubious at the moment (and even the name "Darkcoin" conjures up illegalities at first mention' my 16 year old daughter's response when I was explaining it to her was "that sounds dodgy") is going to move through the phases I've highlighted above and become a standard.

Like others that have posted overviews of their thinking on DRK, (and I particularly like bigrcanada's summary below), I'm in this for the long haul. It doesn't mean DRK is a sure thing, but based on what I know is going on and what's going to (eventually) become important to everyday people, the strategy the DRK team have, I think is sound and will carry DRK well into the future. Some of the negative voices on here are speaking from a perspective of this week, next week, and maybe the week after (if they can stop their aggressive abuse hurling for more than an hour to have a think about things). Come on....much longer term thinking is fundamental with this. The movement of DRK's price at this juncture is nowhere near as important as the development of, what's looking like, the soundest and most substantial anonymous payment architecture ever developed. I've read the white papers and overviews of most of the anon coins and I truly believe what Even Duffield and his team are pulling together here is truly ground breaking. If he's as good an entrepreneur and project manager as he is a developer, it's highly likely RC4 won't be released for weeks yet. I've worked on large software development projects and know what's involved with distributed teams and testing. The amount of pressure being postulated here by people that clearly have no idea is appalling (one the main offenders; you know who you are; how about you just calm down about the price dropping and let this anon coin develop along the time-frame it needs for such a revolutionary concept?)

The very best thing we can do is let those guys do their job and do it well. It's imperative that RC4 is rock solid (as much as can be expected; there will be issues) and confidence is built in the strong and substantial foundation of Darkcoin.


+ 1
thank you, nice to read some lines written with a brain behind it .... Grin Wink Grin
3367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 30, 2014, 07:49:46 AM
[BLA BLA BLA BLA ...

and Ignore .....>>>
3368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [KEY] KeyCoin - X13 - Mine Now! on: July 30, 2014, 07:46:31 AM
Question
am new to this.

The MAC Wallet does not work on my 10.9.4 Machine ?!
Any idea where i can get a new version ??
tx
3369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 30, 2014, 06:20:38 AM


Thank you El Presidente !!!

question, 11 in China ? Whow, that is impressive as i thought they are way to regulated to get DRK Masternodes off the ground there
or
might that be Hong Kong (which belongs to china, but has totally different regulations and freedom) Huh
do you have any specifics on this ?
Tx

http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html?srch&nmstr=China

Code:
Xbx8VZiN9Y7HzronzzcNQGwJMvs5WMbJ2e	[1][2][3][4]	1	CNISP-Union Technology (Bei...	China	_._.212.159	-	-	nl	-	-	nl	6917/6918	35601/35600
XerHYJr3qZ6eqVdwkxaVjnpaKMEGSmSP21 [1][2][3][4] 3 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.166 + + + + + + 0/1 8729/29018
XfWPGJ8KkHKy34HGyyfY88qCaDRHrDmNuQ [1][2][3][4] 3 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.167 + + + + + + 4/4 8724/40240
XiYd88F159s4J6KmSnuhavCKQDsWMceDkt [1][2][3][4] 8 China Network Information C... China _._.210.233 + + + + + + 15/15 24632/24631
XjhT8zuFpZ51pgGffL9sWdo9YUKTRReTft [1][2][3][4] 2 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.163 + + + + + + 6/7 9885/47749
XmRLuQQkkos7zYjVaYghbK7VQSEmp7bnoi [1][2][3][4] 1 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.165 + + + + + + 2/2 8730/29018
Xo576yWc8xvzzQPKEwoZtb515m1dykRYtE [1][2][3][4] 2 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.164 + + + + + + 2/3 8732/29019
XpGnXwusb3y8KwxqdRRqzRu7LzxRpYfTE9 [1][2][3][4] 3 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.168 + + + + + + 4/4 9879/47656
Xpad4FFXcXr1MferfHkQ4Jva5VcWt7qxNh [1][2][3][4] 8 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.169 + + + + + + 17/17 8709/47625
XpqF8vETQ4B6Q5r2m1pzJy9FzijNn3KPCz [1][2][3][4] 4 CNISP-Union Technology (Bei... China _._.212.159 + + + + + + 9/9 6635/6635
XuQ7SX88Pq7dos8VMqD381D28uTUWhPHQ6 [1][2][3][4] 4 NET263 Group in China. China _._.224.170 + + + + + + 1/1 8724/33190
XwjHP3m2oVpYmQGuceHkwo5uyTTyHeVhB3 [1][2][3][4] 5 China Network Information C... China _._.220.175 + + + + + + 11/12 24162/24162

Grin


EDIT:
Owner of masternodes at NET263 Group in China set up a new NM.

http://explorer.darkcoin.io/address/Xjb4R3jiSi8dFuin7vaZynvus4t9sfp51m
Code:
Xjb4R3jiSi8dFuin7vaZynvus4t9sfp51m	[1][2][3][4]	0	NET263 Group in China.	China	_._.224.171	+	+	+	+	+	+	/	/

Thank you El Presidente
whow, that is very impressive !!
3370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 30, 2014, 12:55:23 AM

El Presidente - like Santa Claus, but delivers more often.

Thank you El Presidente !!!

question, 11 in China ? Whow, that is impressive as i thought they are way to regulated to get DRK Masternodes off the ground there
or
might that be Hong Kong (which belongs to china, but has totally different regulations and freedom) Huh
do you have any specifics on this ?
Tx
3371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 30, 2014, 12:14:15 AM
Dark News Live and Unedited: July 29th .....>>
(20:45 min DRK talk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERvHNbc2hPY
3372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 07:23:28 AM
How does one set up a Masternode? could a layman like myself do it forinstance?

Try this:
talked to him, he is 100% legit and capable !
https://darkcointalk.org/threads/yidakees-helpdesk-masternode-setup-services-ghostplayer-on-bitcointalk.1633/#post-12835
3373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 07:11:52 AM


Simple Economics would say supply and demand
Little supply and high demand will/could cause the price to sky rocket beyond anything you have ever seen or experienced - ever

If RC4 fails - DRK will enter a true dark age that could take some time to recover from - if ever

Nobody has a crystal ball and there are times when I read DRKtalk RC4 that I cringe a little bit but the bugs keeps getting squashed and the movement keeps moving forward.

Until Evan and the DEVs run out of ideas and DRK seems to stagnate - I think we have nothing to worry about except our own personal fears of, 'Did I make the right decision?' - 'Is a true anon even possible?'

Nobody will know until it's done.....and proven.

I'm gonna keep on, keep'n on.....until the end.....
[/quote]

tx man
i am all the way with you !!
3374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 06:54:41 AM
TO THE MOON !!!!  Grin

Tao
[/quote]

whow, 1st post
and 'to the moon'
we like that positive attitude !
Welcome !!
3375  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 06:53:45 AM
asking again:
Question:
so what happens if RC4 will be working fine (soon)
but most of DRK are locked up in MN's
so the volume on the Markets is super low (nothing to buy)
....>
5 DRK and 10 DRK trades (what is happening in the moment) will bring the price way up ?
(as there is so little supply)
The real question you're asking is "How does any financial market work?"

+demand -supply = price goes up sharply. This is how it is in any economic market that is not encumbered by way too much government bullshit.

How much, or to what extreme the ctrypto environment will allow... Something this significant has never been done. Nobody can say for sure. No crypto has had this much intrinsic value (which may or may not translate into demand, depending on how stupid people are), with such a low supply. Adoption is a factor of people being smart enough to realize what's good for them. So, the intrinsic value of DRK does not necessarily translate into demand. But, I'm willing to bet that DRK has a lot of sideline whales that have been watching for a long time... The BTC-style integration makes adoption easy for those who choose to do so. It could take off a LOT faster than BTC. Will it? Depends on the humans...

DRK has potential to outpace it's fungible mix value of .001DRK. Another way to say it is that the value could go high enough that .001 will be too big of a chunk to handle, like an ounce of Gold is not really fungible. It's possible. If smart people were the majority, it would already be so. But, smart people are less than 0.1% of the population. But, there has been time for attention to be gotten and even a few smart people might be enough to spike really hard... It's impossible to predict. The only thing one can say is that it has to go up, the laws of human nature and economics say so. How far is the question no one can claim to know.

haha
tx man, i so hear you.
I know this has never been done before, that's why i am asking
and sure, it all depends on the humans out there ...>>
3376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 06:31:17 AM
asking again:
Question:
so what happens if RC4 will be working fine (soon)
but most of DRK are locked up in MN's
so the volume on the Markets is super low (nothing to buy)
....>
5 DRK and 10 DRK trades (what is happening in the moment) will bring the price way up ?
(as there is so little supply)
3377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 06:19:19 AM
lol @ someone selling 2 masternodes at this price
About a month ago I done the same thing at 0.0095 thinking it would start panic. Price soon bounced to 0.01+ I cried. At least I bought back in around same price eventually.

what were you thinking !
man, grow some balls ....>
(lucky you to get back in for the same price, hope you leafed your lesson)
3378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 06:00:10 AM
One guy even admitted that he was mad that he lost money cuz he invested his rent payment and then the value went down... What a fuckin' moron... Paying rent with your investment? Investing with your rent money? Investing money you can't live without? Living beyond your means? The list of bad decisions this guy made started long before he put his money into a pre-release crypto expecting magic to happen on schedule with his landlord... Fucking stupid.
[/quote]
i whole heartily agree.  Darkcoin came out of tbe gate way to fast.  drk was and is in essence in testing,  literally still is.  this created a mistaken culture of entitlement.  most of us long term holders were  left scratching our heads.  we knew and still know darkcoin will certainly go beyond $50+ /drk,  the problem is we were expecting it in a year or two and not in 6 months. we had and have projections that surpass $50...but not immediately

[/quote]

+1
3379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 05:56:30 AM
Question:
so what happens if RC4 will be working fine (soon)
but most of DRK are locked up in MN's
so the volume on the Markets is super low (nothing to buy)
....>
5 DRK and 10 DRK trades (what is happening in the moment) will bring the price way up ?
(as there is so little supply)
3380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 05:50:44 AM
I didn't even realize that so many MNs were created in the past few days (just looking at the charts right now).
We are nearing the 1k milestone. We might see it before RC4 hits.   Smiley

Yea it's pretty remarkable. If the price drops a bit more I think we'll see even more MNs come online as they become more affordable to acquire. As a holder of DRK myself, obviously a price decline is not the most pleasant thing, but on the other hand it's increasing MN distribution, so it's a double edged sword.

I agree~~

which one will come first? RC4 or 1000MN~ very interesting   Grin

1st 1000 MN !
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