Come to Kiev and see what people are fighting! In another you do not understand.
i understand that you are fighting against repressive sociopath assholes. my argument was not that you aren't. my argument was that there is no point in seeking to replace them with new rulers. power corrupts and so what ever new person you give power to will also become corrupted. if you want freedom than replacing existing rulers with new rulers will never have that effect. if you want freedom than you have to reject rulership in general, not rulership from one particular group of rulers. The system in Ukraine is basically Feudalism. Have you wondered how they survive on those extremely low wages that wouldn't even pay for food? The free market! Or, a giant cash economy where everyone avoids paying tax so that their oppressors don't get too much. Everyone pays everyone else with bribes. Since the Ukrainian government appears to have a military aiming guns at its own people, that means 2 things: 1) it's extremely undemocratic. 2) their government is acting like a private corporation with a private army. Libertarian paradise! libertarians propose a system of competing firms providing these services. as near as i can tell the citizens of Ukraine are not free to opt out of paying for the "protection" services provided by their government in favor of purchasing the services of a competing protection agency instead. So tax-avoidance and arming the opposition doesn't count as competition against "Janukovich Enterprises"? That"s a very interesting question. I'll have to think about it. There is certainly a parallel there, that i will grant. Either way the people do not have the right mentality for this presently violent "competition" to settle into a non violent competitive market. With the sort of mentality that people have now the present state of violent competition will inevitably either fail to settle into a system of non market competition or collapse into monopoly. |
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someone sent me coins without telling me where they came from. if that is you please let me know.
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smaragda : 1.5 BTC : e55f69442ac4c021090501e532672fceca153b7b632fa4773505774a97650b79
wizzardTim : 1.4865 BTC : 8e2c48a9fd84bca93a3e1d6379fffe8cf85fb992962ced6d45b8bb0718ed7aaf
mcjavar : 1.5 BTC : 26f7b2d317b7e9bdc1ca5a120dfdfc04dc29fbfe55a6fe7acbc307b2ce79ce01
abuelau : 0.29 BTC : 418596bb7b01b182f1b1c80ca11598122a409cffbbf04705353c912757825b01
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Come to Kiev and see what people are fighting! In another you do not understand.
i understand that you are fighting against repressive sociopath assholes. my argument was not that you aren't. my argument was that there is no point in seeking to replace them with new rulers. power corrupts and so what ever new person you give power to will also become corrupted. if you want freedom than replacing existing rulers with new rulers will never have that effect. if you want freedom than you have to reject rulership in general, not rulership from one particular group of rulers. The system in Ukraine is basically Feudalism. Have you wondered how they survive on those extremely low wages that wouldn't even pay for food? The free market! Or, a giant cash economy where everyone avoids paying tax so that their oppressors don't get too much. Everyone pays everyone else with bribes. Since the Ukrainian government appears to have a military aiming guns at its own people, that means 2 things: 1) it's extremely undemocratic. 2) their government is acting like a private corporation with a private army. Libertarian paradise! libertarians propose a system of competing firms providing these services. as near as i can tell the citizens of Ukraine are not free to opt out of paying for the "protection" services provided by their government in favor of purchasing the services of a competing protection agency instead. |
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Asterios : 1.5000 BTC : 654a235d377f307f507c8ff1270b15a69d15a2807ff588f15aa28b3cc8f4e300
Passion_ltc : 1.4855 BTC : 9800a8fb2d4ae3eb2777d06ba4340677c0a358a18c82ae4b2be3f66741bea3c3
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Skerberus : 0.99 BTC : 9b871c3fc3344caf8c409caa2264b5af4c60f6348ade635f74b5ecb17e5ff106
lyynx : 0.99 BTC : 9cb0c9e66941455bae047c8c7d25d99f1745bc5a042b8860c69cd5af277df86c
1KLjAijazMDP2JhKoVyMY1wB5xcmLqCUFM : 1.50 BTC : 2ed15ee51b8429e0115ead92075c1787e3dd1531442873175fb9f84599ebbc18
gs02xzz : 0.59 BTC : 88138f7365e3f66a1b38590097862dd2b7172eac34378aa34551f40d500bf5cd
coco23 : 0.49 BTC : 38295c24dce59ec0ddacb551195f73a53ae72ec1edacb7139b62e18e9ebc60d3
Eadeqa : 0.29 BTC : 019492610155fed50b7bbe6e195ab56c315c90a447947766382348a0938db310
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sorry to all the people who have sent messages that i haven't responded to yet. i've gotten so many requests that its started to get a little out of hand so im making a spread sheet. will start responding as soon as i get my spread sheet caught up.
You seem very busy , I need a Escrow Service , and PM to you,L'm going to bed. L'm exhausted.look forward to your response in tomorrow .thanks! np  im all caught up now. pm me whenever |
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sorry to all the people who have sent messages that i haven't responded to yet. i've gotten so many requests that its started to get a little out of hand so im making a spread sheet. will start responding as soon as i get my spread sheet caught up.
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to all of my customers. please note that i will only release the bitcoins WITH YOUR PERMISSION when it gets close to the due date please check your in boxes for any messages from me otherwise you may miss your opportunity to be involved in this project.
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holding 0.979BTC in escrow for Mario123
tx: 4852b7d7f792dbeecdf58ade2403a9b2aa645dfebbd98234e7ec2977cf439620
he wishes to be identified by his bitcointalk account
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holding 1.4855 BTC in escrow for s.lohmeier@yahoo.detx: 0d143f5d2d0e70d3f146ad73a789db13d99d70e406ef215f1acdef2da6c207e2 he wishes to be identified by his email address |
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ok then that answer is good enough for me. holding 1.5btc in escrow for me i wish to be identified by my btc address 1J68eajnyueiLeYdaBUiVySFhPiwpafzmY |
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holding 0.5BTC in escrow for kikeda
tx: 6a33128f862b940ca66e23e78112d0fdf0f2584181247d41c9efc11a5e94de1d
he wishes to be identified by his bitcointalk account
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Come to Kiev and see what people are fighting! In another you do not understand.
i understand that you are fighting against repressive sociopath assholes. my argument was not that you aren't. my argument was that there is no point in seeking to replace them with new rulers. power corrupts and so what ever new person you give power to will also become corrupted. if you want freedom than replacing existing rulers with new rulers will never have that effect. if you want freedom than you have to reject rulership in general, not rulership from one particular group of rulers. |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430467 if his claims are true than there could be a lot of opportunity here. He accepts escrow but refuses to release the source before I release my escrow. Even though the code will be closed source, he promises to release a working client before i release my escrow. My concern is that maybe he will simply change a few values in nxt and add a new graphical fronted so that it looks like brand new software but is actually just a clone of nxt. what do you guys think? is there a way of telling whether or not he copied nxt without seeing the source? if he did copy NXT then he not only ported to c++ but he also added PoW component. Id be more concerned of him cloning CGB/ADT or some other Pos/PoW coin ah well the point remains. is there any way to tell if he did this? Ask him to release partial code, he should be comfortable with that if he's legit. when does the first round of investing end? im under the impression that the 22 is the last day but i just want to make sure.
also one of the claims that you make is that the code is brand new built from the ground up. so one of the stipulations for releasing the funds that i am holding in escrow must be that you prove that fact. any ideas how to handle this catch 22 since you say that you need the escrow funds released before release but that the code will be closed source until release?
yes the 22nd is the last day. Exact time will be announced later. We cannot prove anything regarding the source without partly releasing it I guess. Anyway we will not release any code before the launch. We have explained that we need the escrow funds at least one daybefore launch. It is not your task to check if any conditions are matched if you offer an escrow service for someone else. So if someone want to release the funds you would have to deliver it - that is my understanding of escrow services. If you do not like the idea that eXocoin will be closed source as of now and are not going to finish any escrow under this condition then please hand your holdings back to them. You will see that we have a completely new programm at least when you read the whitepaper or participate in the open beta. That must be proof enough. |
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Maybe I missed it in the OP, what would I get for a 1 BTC early bird investment vs 1 BTC in second stage?
I saw that but it doesn't really explain anything. sure it does. early birds have 15% of the total coin supply divvied to them in proportion to their contribution. |
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eXo_coin what do you say to people who are concerned that maybe you will release a client that looks like a brand new crypto but is actually just a new graphical front end applied to slightly modified code of an existing altcoin?
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Maybe I missed it in the OP, what would I get for a 1 BTC early bird investment vs 1 BTC in second stage?
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How to download a jpg image to bitcointalk messages?
well you will have to host it somewhere else, then you just link directly to the image and put it in the img tags |
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holding 50ltc in escrow for TwinWinNerD
tx: 4cc15292f5576afdb205f82263e1d6af527347df643b493ca6882b06ca27d5ef
he wishes to be identified by his bitcointalk account
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