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3361  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Generation Social Gambling Dice Experience on: May 29, 2015, 06:02:00 AM
Im not "they" , not part of the DaDice team just a regular user like everyone else

Your avatar says "DaDice" in it. It made me think "you" were "they".

But I guess by the same logic I'm a sock puppet...
3362  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io - Bitcoin Casino ★Unique Luck Forging★ Powered by Moneypot.com on: May 29, 2015, 04:06:59 AM
I think you might have an error here:



A 4.95x payout for a 20% chance bet is 1% house edge, not 0.1%.
3363  Economy / Gambling / Re: Make 20x profit in 30 minutes on: May 29, 2015, 03:30:34 AM
It's a nonlinear product. There is no need for leverage. You just need to predict whether it is going to reach a certain price level.


No leverage can make 20x profit in 20 minute. I dont believed its impossible
Can u post screen shot who can make it only 30 minute.


It's basically gambling. You can make 36x profit in a minute on a roulette table if you pick the right number.

It would help if OP made it clear that it's a risk, not a guaranteed 20x, but I think most people will understand that.
3364  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Generation Social Gambling Dice Experience on: May 29, 2015, 03:27:07 AM
dadice is so much lagging on my side my roll taking too much time more than 6 seconds per roll dice even i am using lite version. Angry

The reason of it could be due to your network latency. Unless you have a smooth connection then you will rolling at 1 roll/second assuming that your connection is decent

A 6 second latency would be a problem. But I doubt this user has a 6 second latency. Such a dumb response to what is obviously a very slow website due to bad coding.

That's funny. User complains of 6 second roll delay and (someone who is not) they reply(s) it might be the customer's network latency... Smiley

Which is why it also doesn't run on mobile devices even though every other dice site is capable of doing so.

DaDice is "next generation". Mobile is the current generation.

The kinds of devices that DaDice is optimised for don't even exist yet.
3365  Economy / Gambling / Re: Someone should make agar.io for bitcoins on: May 28, 2015, 10:36:41 PM
Someone should make agar.io for bitcoins

That's funny, I've been thinking the exact same thing every time I play it.
3366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: May 28, 2015, 10:35:17 PM
The only better strategy is to do a whole bet instead of small bets wich gives you slightly better odds.

Sigh. This again?

The amount you expect to lose is proportional to the amount you expect to wager. Doing a "whole bet" you expect to lose a percentage of your whole bankroll. Running a single equivalent martingale sequence summing to your whole bankroll but stopping the first time you win will expect to risk less, and so expects to lose less.
3367  Economy / Gambling / Re: sawdice the New Age of Dice - Let's play a game. on: May 28, 2015, 10:25:33 PM
about your last point ( which we claim to have a fantastic provably fair method )
yes we have the best provably fair method , we did our best to make our provably fair at most transparency, not like all the other site

You have to be joking. Your system is among the worst I've seen. Imagine being a player on your site, and wanting to make 100 provably fair bets. How much work would they have to do? They would have to note 100 different server seed hashes, change their client seed 100 times, verify 100 server seed hashes, and verify 100 rolls. That's so much work that literally nobody is going to do it.

Compare that with a site like Just-Dice where each player gets a single pair of seeds (one server seed hash, one client seed). They make 100 bets, then chose to reveal the server seed and can verify all 100 bets with a single click.

For you to claim that your system is somehow better than that is beyond belief. No sane person could compare the too and find your to be better.

To address your 4 points:

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How sawdice provably fair system makes it special ?[/b]
Most other dice games who claim that they provely (?) fair while they are not, they do some tricks to cheat the players, here is some of them :
1 ) some dice games do provide you with the server seed in sha256 hashed format, but they never provide you the unhashed server after you play.
2 ) some others do not provide you with the hashed server seed and they only provide it after you play.
3 ) some others do not allow you to change your client seed so they force a client seed that makes the result known to them even before you bet.
4) some others tell you that the server seed will not be published till some time later after you bet.
all those tricks are done at many of the dice games websites but not at SawDice, our system is free of all those ticks and any tricks to cheat our players and make it a truly fair.

1. if a site doesn't provide the server seed ever, then it isn't provably fair
2. if a site doesn't provide the server seed hash, then it isn't provably fair
3. if a site doesn't let the client set the client seed, then it isn't provably fair
4. publishing the server seed after you bet is the only time to publish it. if you publish it before, the player can cheat. but forcing it to be changed after every single bet makes verification too much work for the user. it's better to let the user decide when to change it.

As usual, NLNico's point were right, and I'm pretty much just repeating them.
3368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: May 28, 2015, 07:28:13 AM
I don't think a casino exists that doesn't have some limits set in play. [...] they make their money from the -EV gambler's take on.

You might be surprised to hear there's a new dice site with NO limit to the bet size, and NO house edge (until the end of the month):

0% house edge till ( 1-June-2015 )

We don't have any maximum bet limits or deposit / withdraw limits

Unbelievable?

They claim to have a 5-figure amount of BTC available to back their bets, but apparently don't intend to prove it until after the 0% edge offer expires:

We will provide our cold storage wallet in few days.

Interesting stuff, no?
3369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: May 28, 2015, 07:20:27 AM
Where auto-bet feature?

There's no built-in auto-bet feature.

There's no winning strategy, and so it seems to me the only reason to play is if you enjoy it. Why would you want an auto-bet feature to lose your coins automatically for you?

For those who do want to auto-bet, there are a few third party extensions listed in the FAQ tab. See the "Is there a way of betting automatically?" question.
3370  Economy / Gambling / Re: sawdice the New Age of Dice - Let's play a game. on: May 27, 2015, 11:21:35 PM
As the great Dalai Lama said : Great achievements involve great risks. [/b]

I didn't see that one. What was the deal, something like deposit 10 lamas up front and get a daily lama in return for life?

The gestation period is 11.5 months (350 days) so such a return is clearly unsustainable.
3371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: May 27, 2015, 11:14:10 PM
Hi, I'm buying 30BTC worth of clam at 0.0045 if anyone is interested in selling them to me!

Thanks
~dandiilion

I'm selling 1000 CLAM at 0.01 BTC each, too.

Hey, you started it... Smiley
3372  Economy / Gambling / Re: sawdice the New Age of Dice - Let's play a game. on: May 27, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
we do not have any maximum bet limits or deposit / withdraw limits

So you currently have 0% house edge, and no maximum bet?

That sounds like a remarkably risky thing to offer.

If you weren't a totally unknown entity you could find yourself with some huge whales on your hands.
3373  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recent dadice.com development on: May 27, 2015, 10:13:34 PM

Unfortunately the Just-Dice link was broken when the CLAM developers switched from one block explorer to another again.

Addresses #1 and #3 on the CLAM rich list are the JD coins. They both begin "xJDCLAMZ" in case the order changes.
3374  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recent dadice.com development on: May 27, 2015, 09:15:46 PM
people have played on dadice and will play on it as most of them dont care about cold storage and stuff they just want good design and thats it

Wouldn't you think most players would care that the site is able to actually pay them out in the event that they won a lot?
3375  Economy / Gambling / Re: sawdice the New Age of Dice - Let's play a game. on: May 27, 2015, 09:13:54 PM
Congratulations for our big winner today.

What kind of maximum bet limits do you have? I don't see it anywhere on the site.
3376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] Poloniex - Crypto Exchange with BTC/NXT on: May 27, 2015, 07:40:17 PM
How is poloniex deciding which coins to allow margin trading for?

I put a star next to the ones it allows:



CLAM is often near the top, by volume, but for some reason still doesn't allow margin trading. It's the only one in the top 5 that doesn't have margin trading.

Will it be added at some point?
3377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: May 27, 2015, 06:23:36 PM
I noticed one members is cheating, I can't believe he always win in 10x multiplier, he win +1 bitcoin of every roll, His name Icey or maybe something like that name.. Better to check his account..

Don't forget my lollipop, I mean my bounty/reward. I saved your site. Grin

I don't have account in just-dice, here my btc address: 1BmNgvYRcxWSAKJXekthj9Ld8ZsahXWnCZ

There's a FAQ about that:



Basically, when you play at 10x multiplier, your wins are 9 times bigger than your losses. If he plays at the right size stake his losses will be below your view threshold and his wins will be above it and so you will only see his wins.
3378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: May 27, 2015, 04:51:09 PM
Vote for Clams to be added at Coinomat.com

Can't you just add it without us voting?
3379  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Generation Social Gambling Dice Experience on: May 27, 2015, 07:41:31 AM
I have no doubt you will be one of the top dice sites that is where the fear comes from no doubt

No, this is where the concern comes from:

The issue of not proving bankroll is still quite real. If someone gambles at max bet multiple times, then wins, and you don't have enough money to pay the big win, how will you pay it? It is expected you will pay it from the bankroll. But if the bankroll is not enough you are basically bankrupt. Being insolvent doesn't mean you can't pay out now, it means you can't pay out in the future. This is why the solvency question came up by many members of the community. In many countries, a company can become insolvent if its future liabilities might not be met, and this calculation does not include asset values which cannot easily be liquidated. This is why receivers come into companies before they become completely bankrupt or dissolved. Unlike the regulated world, if you don't have enough to pay, you just run off and become hard to track down. So still, without proving you can support paying a big payout, you are still providing concern for the players who really bet big.

Don't misunderstand. The concern isn't "omg their site is so pretty and their ad campaign so spammy". The concern is "they seem to be insolvent, and so will probably end up scamming people".

Well said by the way, bodgybrothers.
3380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake on: May 27, 2015, 06:12:34 AM
I watched some folks get pwned the other day on a coin I was helping do the escrow on.

Here is an example of why not to DL from anything besides the OP.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1041025.msg11351856#msg11351856

Ouch. He quoted and edited a post by the coin's developer, changing the link to a viral version of the Viral client.

Of course, even if you only download from the OP post, you're still at the mercy of the OP. If she's evil, she too can steal all your coins - not just the ones in that particular wallet.
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