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3361  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2021 Bitcoin Cycle(Bullrun) vs 2017 Bitcoin Cycle(Bullrun) on: December 24, 2020, 10:43:01 PM
The bull circle for this year is having the same kind like in 2017. I think the difference is the doubt that came because of covid-19.and with that bitcoin still went up to a new ATH. Because of the covid-19, it was a slow move until now around november and an extension to December that it had major increase. But the 2017 was an early run with clear direction of bull that got more people trapped when the bear started.
No you are wrong on finding out the possible reason on why we had increased up soo much! This doesnt particularly talks about covid-19. Just to think on how it would be affecting on positive side towards the market?
Why wouldnt consider on that Paypal adoption instead? We are indeed having the same movement back in 2017 but this isnt something to be the same on adoption rate or level.Observing the price on how it
behaves when it comes to price corrections and recovery.? This isnt the same wayback where correction did really result into a heavy crash which did really create big panic on the entire market.
On this point we are seeing different one but doesnt mean that it wont crash, there's always a tendency for it to happen.
3362  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Rather learn to trade by yourself on: December 24, 2020, 09:52:34 PM
The problem with people is that they don't want to go through the rigors of learning, at some point they give up. So they end up looking for an expert to give them call or a person that will trade for them and give them peanut profits.  It's always better to learn and be determined so that you won't fall into the hands of experts in vultures clothing's.

Lets just say it as it is; investors this days are lazy, they adjourn crypto currency as a ponzi firm and believe that they can just invest and hope. Newbies need to understand why they should learn to trade for theirself, as it helps you understand the losses, profits and the hypes. Treat trading as a business venture and you will thrive.
They will realize when they had already able to experience on what are the things that do really happen in the market but its quite common
that majority of them will just treat that it isnt a business but rather some rich quick scheme until they realize that it doesnt really work that way.
They would really be appreciating it if they will able to see the true essence of trading when it comes to money making opportunity.
Dont rely on others claiming on giving a significant interest into your money and its much worth if you do trade on your own.
3363  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎰 BITDICE.me - Crypto Casino 🎰 5.0 Launch on December 27 on: December 23, 2020, 11:27:51 PM
They do not have customers at all so no big deal, investors pay their fabricated expenses
Who are the investors you mean? Afaik bitdice never accept investment from anyone, they were only running their ICO and investor got CSNO token, although i don't know what's current stats of CSNO token now

Joksim has some sort of a grudge against BitDice. I've tried to explain the situation multiple times but he's still convinced that BitDice scammed ICO investors.

We had hoped the upcoming launch of new version would ease people's mind and show that BitDice is still here and trying to move forward.
Joksim really trying to pin down BitDice, He also created a scam accusation about this casino, It's just disappointing that bitdice team or dogedice.me didn't really respond to the accusations.

It's a good thing that bitdice showed that the project is still active.

They had already make out some response about such accusation and you can read it on that scam accusation thread theirs. Does it really need to be discussed or make some grave digging?
He cant really just stopped to repeat things which he had already been answered for how many times.Token value is really out of hands and dumping its price doesnt really mean that
it is on owners fault which this is the thing he try to push on. Are there investors who had been complaining about that thing?

@dogedice.me

Very nice update to see that Bitdice is now having some Lottery.
3364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Where can I find new altcoins to catch them right when they are going to launch? on: December 23, 2020, 10:32:47 PM
I still prefer Bitcointalk and I don't go for airdrops if the new coin looks dubious and they are run by bad actors the community will react and report these scammers, you cannot do that if they are launch elsewhere but they can still get reported by members whom they scam.
Im with this but if you do find out in other sources on some coin launching then its always better if you do make out some in depth research which is through into this forum.
They might not have or might have some ANN thread on this place which would be a good thing for you to check on.Those listing sites like ICObench does have known issues
back in the past which been paid on listing out those shitty projects to be shown and thats why lots or majority of people had lost up their trust for them to check out
on whats being listed or preferred by the site.
3365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: TOP 5 James Bond gambling scenes on: December 23, 2020, 09:25:57 PM
Casino Royale is going to be the only movies watched by most on that list because we can consider only it as a modern-day movie all others are mid and late 19th century movies. Well, there are a lot of gambling-related movies out there apart from the James bond collection the one I loved the most is from the Hangover which is actually a comedy genre movie that has gambling part in it when the gang reaches vegas.

Same here, basing on the list i do only able to watch Casino royale and the others we're out of my interest yet im not really that too old. lol

That was much more clever and original a scene than most of what I see in films today.
I couldnt agree more into this, this is why when it comes to realistic kind of events then i do find out that older year films is much
better than as of todays.
3366  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is bitcoin cross $15k in end of 2020 on: December 23, 2020, 08:20:58 PM
Its really nice to look back into these kind of threads where do talk about price which is lower on what the current we are seeing now.All people had been hoping and aiming for $15k for this year 2020
and here we are we do even reached and break the previous ATH and go to 24k price.This do proves out on how unpredictable the market is which it can anytime go into new numbers without even expecting
for it to happen.Now that we had broke the ATH then we are aiming for new heights like 30k and even some people presuming with that 100k is near.We do need lots or higher level of adoption to reach those.
Lets just patiently wait for things to happen and dont rush up into those high numbers without considering on what are the main things needed.
3367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I am not investing in Bitcoin, I am staying with Altcoins on: December 23, 2020, 07:38:56 PM
I am not against the idea of putting your money into altcoins, that doesn't really sound like a bad idea at all, the reason is funny of course, to say that bitcoin is volatile so you are going to altcoins sounds more like "alligators are too dangerous, so I deal with crocodiles" because they are basically the same thing but different name. Which means bitcoin is very volatile I agree with that but altcoins are very volatile as well, they are all crypto currencies and they all act about the same.

However altcoins dropped a lot in bitcoin price while gaining a lot of dollar price, I think that is why it is important to realize we could have another increase in altcoin prices, they  could probably reach back to what they were in bitcoin price and that could end up with a lot of profit for many people. So I am fine with altcoin investment, even if you are doing it for wrong reasons.
That is my main problem, if someone wants to do something then they are free to do it, however getting out of bitcoin because of the volatility when it is known that altcoins experiment even more volatility does not really make a lot of sense. After all we know that the market of altcoins has less money invested in it which makes it easier to move and when we also take into account that whales are bigger in the market of altcoins this makes it easier for them to manipulate the price.

And when we add that a great deal of those that invest in altcoins do not hold their coins for the long term as it happens in the market of bitcoin this increases the volatility of altcoins to a point that I do not see how this could be used as a justification to leave bitcoin but adopt altcoins.
Just let them be on what would be the things that theyre trying to do and if they do saw that Altcoins is much better then its up to them but as mentioned on theres no point if you do try to switch
nor exchange bitcoin to alts just because of volatility then you are really making some wrong presumption or observation.Well, its his money after all which means he had the full control of it.
If this kind of decision is according into your own analysis and likings then so be it but be aware and youll surely realize that things into your mind isnt really happening on what you had presumed.
Always deal with Bitcoin and Altcoin if you do but if you do benefit out with alts then you can stay up.
3368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sport betting site offering bets on the Covid-19 pandemic. Worst site now. on: December 22, 2020, 08:56:53 PM
Should we say having fun is against the ethics of gambling? Coronavirus has been used by comedians around the world likewise our musicians, even some film industries have began their stories about the said pandemic, this is just a way to Cushing the negative effects of this ravaging deadly virus. Although, this is personal opinion and shouldn't be use for crucification of my view. They're just getting their gamblers inline to having fun with the covid-19.

Well, I understand your take; joking with the coronavirus should be seen as normal thing and not that; they're saying it doesn't exist among us or is a fiction. This is just a means of relaxation for these gamblers to have fun with the covid-19.
Maybe, it is the time that we use covid19 for fun. Because almost a whole year, we fear in covid 19. Atleast, we can manipulate it by means of playing. However, it might be a serious case since this pandemic is treated seriously by authority and doctors. Putting it in a gambling game might give a bad impact to them specially when we talk about the statistics. No one can also be relaxed to play a game which took away millions of life.
We do indeed need fun but not on this kind of way on where we do bet on peoples lives which it is too unethical to be done.I dont know on whats up into their
minds on making out some bet basing off this which this one will surely give out bad impressions towards them instead of getting some praises to those players.
Now the situation becomes even more worst as the day goes by and its not that good to look at that even if your bet is winning but peoples lives
were you primary indicators which it isnt really enjoying at all.
3369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake or nitrogen my point of view on: December 22, 2020, 07:46:19 PM
When i told them in emails stake give me more they ask me how ,when they ask me ehat the difference between them and stake i open this topic,what agenda i can have?
Tear people comments you will see your self the difference between the sites.
Harm how i am harm that i tell people to get the best benefit for them sory if i want people get more money from there gambling site
Just do what you think is Right OP ,because truth shall prevail ,you have the emails/conversations thats enough t prove you right.
and besides you can't please everybody because each of us has their own ways of believing .
But i know you won't expose here if you are in bad faith, so just ignore them and talk to the representative ,because they are the one who's in need for reply.
After all, if you want to boast or drop one of them I don't think this is the place, but if there are comments that point to it, I don't think it is a problem because it's about their experience playing on one of the gambling related sites. I personally prefer stake because there were things that made me leave nitrogen in the past however, I still admit nitrogen is a good site I've ever used and I don't hate them.
Some do hate them but people is still on the neutral side of things where they dont hate it up yet we do know that this is one of the most famous bookies back in the past.
We cant deny that they do gave out the best service out  there when these new bookies didnt still exist. Some do appreciate their past experiences with nitrogen
and some do hate due to issues that they do able to experience on.Even myself doesnt hate them even though im already playing in other bookies as of this moment.
3370  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't be greedy at this time. on: December 22, 2020, 06:46:22 PM
The biggest problem of a trader is not being able to control emotions.
greed is a part of it and very hard to control. this is what causes huge losses and mentally damaging in trading.
Well, your greed can be useful sometimes so you can higher. But yea, it is just like everything else where anything that really over your needs are really bad of your decision making and could suffer you to more losses than you can afford. I would prefer to trade Bitcoin at this point at the steady pace rather than just taking this hype too seriously.
Greed is part of human's behavior. If you don't know how to handle it, you might end up losing the expected profits rather than winning it. In trading, learn to set your own target selling price and once it will be hit, stick with your own original plan. Most of the time, traders  won't control their emotions seeing the price of the coins keeps on pumping and expecting it to reach even higher. But the market then suddenly dump and you missed already the profits if you happen to sell.
basically trading is a blend of emotion and theory that every trader has.
they have different and unique predictions, strategies and characters. the most important thing is to focus and be consistent with your own trading strategy.
It isnt bad to look for other trading ways or methods into other traders as well as long you dont mimic or trying to copy it fully and just tending to add it up into your current strategy
which on this case, you do able to enhance even way more with your trading ways and if turns out not to be good in terms of outcomes or results then you can anytime remove and
find another one if necessary.This is just a matter of trial and error in countless basis because you wont really be able to sustain into this market if you do just limit out yourself
or sticking only on a few methods that you do know.Always explore on various paths and ways and finding out the best one that fits you in.
3371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any insurance service for gamblers to retain heavy losses....??? on: December 22, 2020, 06:08:49 PM
I haven't heard of one either. And I think that one could hardly be offered by insurance providers because that is too risky. Gamblers are losing more often than winning. The high rollers or VIP gamblers, who are probably the ones that will take advantage of such insurance product, are definitely losing a lot of money all the time so that would result to a lot of payouts from the insurance companies. They might end up bankrupt if they get into this kind of very risky kind of insurance business.
But sounds worth having one right?specially to gamblers that has no much family left,insurance will save them in their darkest days when the effect of too much spending from gambling comes..
Or maybe there are something like this but not familiar in this forum and from us also.because i believe that all kind of business and offering has been done by humans noawadays.
This isnt something that you can make out some claims or do connects with health or any accident insurances but particularly talking about some partial amount to be given back when a gambler do lost.
So its just too dumb if you do consider to compare it out to some regular insurances that we've known which doesnt really fit out into the criteria.No insurances or business will be built into the
field of gambling because that would really be a suicide if they do that knowing that gambling is always on the side of losing for those players which means claims will be active.
Would it be sustainable? A big NO!
3372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is it right time to Buy Alt coins now? on: December 21, 2020, 11:49:24 PM
I'm not sure if we can see the pump of the altcoins just like the year 2018 of January. I don't think if this is the right time to buy altcoins but if you planning to hold for long term then I guess you can buy it now but for me, not good to buy now maybe I will wait the down prices of the altcoins then that's the right time to buy.

Time is already peaking so it's best to wait for a large drop back to make it easier for you to buy some good tokens. But if you feel you will get a loss you should buy it now.

Better assessment and good timing will allow you to gain good compensation inside this market, don't buy if you are unsure with the market movement.

Wait and do deeper research instead of rushing your way and leads you to lose your money, alts season depends from the development of the project,

once updates being provided and it offers good usages then chances that the value will rise high.

You should do your assignment when it comes on researching things not just on putting money or buying without any basis.When it comes to buying then
it will depend into your decision because not all the times would be ideal to buy specially when its already on its peak.There are lots of
considerations before making any decisions because if you do just carelessly buy without any of those things then
mistakes and losses will surely be next in line.
3373  Economy / Speculation / Re: We're almost half way to 100x (250k) on: December 21, 2020, 10:57:51 PM
In 2018 we saw drops down to ~2900 and recently we dropped to around $4000, we're now already 600% up from the $4000 figure. I don't see $250k being completely out of reach by now, since an extra move as big as we've seen ever the past few months would take us to $120k.

(This is just a curious evaluation I don't want anyone trading based on this alone - it's normally not the best time to buy when everyone's bullish or if it is it's riskier to do).
Not to be bitter on having these kind of numbers but if we do consider on how big the marketcap would be on reaching 250k then i dont know on what would be the situation in terms of comparison
of Bitcoin and with the top fiat currencies when it comes to value and also to others.
We can presume out those high multipliers when the price was still soo small but since we are already in 20k+ side then reaching 600% or 100x is
almost out of reach.Being bullish isnt a bad thing but if i do mind off that way then im not really that patient on waiting up for too long.
It can be reach but not might be on my lifetime lol.
3374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Golovkin vs. Szeremeta IBF Middleweight Title on: December 21, 2020, 10:23:51 PM
If I were GGG, I would be hungry to fight. Due to a split loss to Canelo and his bunch of belts Cheesy To bad Canelo will avoid him.
Anyway, GGG fight against Szeremeta was more impressive and interesting to watch than Canelo vs Smith.

No i don't think so. It is the quality of the opponents that drove the outcome of it's fight. Though Szeremeta is undefeated but he is not as tough as Callum Smith. Even wonder why Szeremeta lasted until the seventh round.

But you are right, Canelo seems to be avoiding GGG because maybe the latter has his numbers and if they will have a trilogy Canelo already got the advantage because GGG is already going south in terms of performance due to age (at least for me).
When it comes to age issues then no doubt that any boxers into industry would really be having that kind of decline towards its performance or fighting ability.
Going back to Szeremeta then its already anticipated on whats the outcome before the fight and all people here had anticipated on who would gonna win.
Without any doubt then thats really the result.For Trilogy with Canelo then it is unlikely to happen but who knows if there would be some reconsiderations?
3375  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: CONFUSED NEWBIE on: December 21, 2020, 09:22:45 PM
     
            Attention!!!
     Can someone educate me about crypto currencies. What are they?
How do they work?
How do you buy them?
How do you transfer them?
How do you trade them for cash?
Does their value fluctuate like traditional currencies?
Are  their any risk to owning them?
Is there a fraud risk?

- A cryptocurrency is another form of digital currency which uses cryptography to secure and verify transactions and to manage and control the creation of new currency units. Source

-How do cryptocurrencies work? Cryptocurrencies use decentralised technology to let users make secure payments and store money without the need to use their name or go through a bank. They run on a distributed public ledger called blockchain, which is a record of all transactions updated and held by currency holders.Source

-How to buy? neither do P2P or you can in exchangers. Same goes on how you would make out some conversion to fiat.

-When it comes to fluctuation then volatility level is way too far off with those fiat which is one if the biggest differences between them.

-Risk? Of course, since prices are moving in wide  ranges then you can neither gain or lost up money in a short time.

-Scam is everywhere thats why only stick out into those top alts into the market and of course Bitcoin should be prioritized.
3376  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin advertising by celebrities. on: December 18, 2020, 10:15:55 PM
Celebrity rapper Megan Jovon Ruth Pete aka Megan Thee Stallion tweeted about giving away of one million bucks worth of bitcoins to celebrate her successes. I'm not a fan of the rep, but I like the trend. If celebrities get involved into bitcoin's advertisement, then those who up to now stood on the sidelines watching developments or haven't heard about bitcoin at all would also be able to build our ranks.


I must admit that I didn't follow the celebrities up to now, I know that there are big holders among them, but I never heard of free giveaway from them. Is this  the first action of that kind or there were others?

Any form of advertisement would be always a good publicity towards bitcoin.I dont know about this celebrity but its good that she did make out some giveaway which makes more the curiosity of those fans
will really be high and will surely find out or seek on what bitcoin is.Adoption is on the move thats why its no surprise that this will really reach out into the radar not only on common community but also into those
celebs and other big investors out there.We wont know if theyve been accumulating that big and it doesnt matter as long lots of people do become aware into its existence then that what matter most.
We have seen that this isnt only limited by celebrities but also in other popular person in investment firms and companies.
3377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2020 US Presidential Election | Trump vs Biden on: December 18, 2020, 09:22:37 PM
as promised the bet on freebitco.in have been paid out too (in favor of Biden, of course).

Of course, i would not advertise dishonest book.   Grin

And if to talk without irony, it's obvious that after decision of Supreme Court and college of voters there is no reason to not pay bids. Everything is over, Trump has lost. If some book doesn't pay your reward, you should pay attention to it.
Wondering on what are the things that theyre trying to wait up since its clear that it had been decided.What they are trying to fight for? Its just useless because it is over.
Biden is already on the set and trying to reforming things because if it was still an unsure decision then he wont really be sitting up there are the new president.
They cant really just accept the truth that they have lots and trying to fight into something which cant really be changed.Bookies that had paid out on bettors of Biden then
i would consider to be on that ethical side of things but for those who have not then i would already have doubts on using them.
3378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Potential coins under 50 million dollars market cap? Can someone give me a hint? on: December 18, 2020, 07:54:16 PM
As above the title, I need to advise a few coins under 50 million dollars market cap to invest, Thanks
Coinmarketcap.com would be the best place for this on where you can search out or spot out which coins are on that 50 million cap bracket.By the way, are you tending to risk on buying those
coins just because they are low caps? If yes then you should be careful because not all the times these projects will really be having some recovery and would slowly to die.
Im sure that someone do give out some hints or tips about buying low caps but if i were to say then this would really be a gamble but of course you would really be finding
the best or most potential coins among the group, not just on carelessly choosing.
3379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Floyd Mayweather vs. Logan Paul - February 20 on: December 18, 2020, 06:50:29 PM
We already know this is not even a close fight. This fight is just unfair considering the experience and the record that Floyd Mayweather has. Looking at the matches Logan fought, which is the same individual, is not even comparable to Floyd. The jump of the level of difficulty of the opponent of this Youtube content creator is just amazing. Hope that I am that confident.

I tried to search some info in boxrec and i found out that Logan Paul had some stats.

0W- 1L0- 0D

He lost to  Olajide William Olatunji. Fight happened wayback in 2019-11-09.

Trying to compare with 50 wins with no loss boxer Floyd Mayweather? This is a massacre.

I thought KSI and Logan Paul fought twice? Why did the internet searches only listed one match of fights between Logan and KSI? One happened in 2018 and the other happened in 2019? Isn't that counted as an official fight?
This is why i dont really trust up  some statistics sites yet it can anytime be not precise when it comes to numbers.I did make some search
and even wikipedia do shows 1 fight that just had been recorded.

So the 2nd one might not be an official one?
3380  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: There is no certainty in trading on: December 17, 2020, 11:57:34 PM
I want us to understand that no mind can control or know a token direction with total certainty; which is why there are always dump (or price corrections as you may call it). The only certainty while trading crypto currency is PROBABILITIES; because in trading, at every moment there are so many different possibilities, entries and even exits; your level of interpretation will determine the one you go for and also prepare for when the market does not obey your predictions

This is why you have to be consistent in your 'right' process.

Do you know the complete know how of trading. No one knows the exact entry and exit points but trading techniques and charts give us the fair idea resistance and support. Based on different indicators we can take more favorable decisions. If you don't follow the charts, you will just lose your money in trading because trading does not follow emotions.

Trading without any basis like having indicators or charting or even listening or watching out some news then its typically can be considered to be gambling.
There's no certainty with trading because its always unpredictable and you cant spot out which is the best time to make entries and this is where every traders
do differ when it comes on making profits because profitability will be varying into someone's experience and knowledge towards it.
This is why learning trading is an never ending task for someone who do continuously engaging with this market.
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