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33761  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks CLOSED! on: December 06, 2015, 12:18:17 AM
we did do 174-175 blocks


https://blockchain.info/blocks/1449274418041


386916 (Main Chain)   2015-12-05 23:46:53


386742 (Main Chain)   2015-12-05 00:00:46


174/175 is 30 or so over 'norm' of 144

so we may slide over 9%

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  (+8.78%)   it is more like +9.01


Bitcoin Difficulty:   72,722,780,643
Estimated Next Difficulty:   79,108,345,960 (+8.78%)
Adjust time:   After 156 Blocks, About 23.6 hours
Hashrate(?):   565,138,108 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.1 minutes
3 blocks: 27.2 minutes
6 blocks: 54.4 minutes
Updated:   19:15 (56.0 seconds ago)


with 156 blocks left getting over 10% would be unlikely .

I cap us at  8.0 for the low  9.7%  for the top

 most likely in the 8.6 to 9.2 area


good luck to anyone close!!
33762  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: December 05, 2015, 11:57:27 PM
I got my batch 7 online yesterday and the noise is horrible and I used to think S5 is noisy.
Fans run over 4000rpm and blades are about 50C, air is traveling too fast, screams and resonates badly.
3 x DPS-600 powers take 1400W from wall, I tested power draw upto 1600W.
 
Customs took 1BTC for sale tax but I have "free" electrics as garage is heated with S7 so I maybe ROI some day.

What did you really expect? One S5 with one jet blaster fan was horrible noise pollution. Then, an S7 with two of them running. The temps aren't even the "real" temps. It's just a temp sensor on the board somewhere. I would always add 10 degrees to the temp shown.

50C, thats very good. You have some leeway here. Air is too fast, yes indeed it make a lot of noise at full speed;

So why are you not reducing fan speed? Tongue

2 Fan is actually quieter than 2 fan because the air flow for the same noise is lower.

I was expecting evolution, Bittmaintech have made these machines over two years.
If You put two same size fans in a tube suction fan should bee bigger, flow rate is reduced if it isn't. Fans in S7 have the static fins which restric flow at exit, but at inlet side they reduce turbulence and make inlet air pressure higher. Exit fins are useless and make only noise. If You put hand near exit, machine don't make so much noise.

If you pay almost 2000$ of a machine you shouldn't need to open it first and check if parts have fallen of.
Better thermal epoxy needed or some quality control maybe?

2000$ miner shouldn't overheat and burn if it lose internet.  

Not GPUs hanging from wires but still not yet very matured products.


you sir are wrong to say products are not very matured.

The Avalon 6 is far better built then the s-7 but the better build = $$ and a bit less power efficient .

The s-7 is nosiy at high fan speed so lower the fans speed to 40 or 45%. This also fixes the lost internet burn up issue.

Now once the fan is at 40% you may need to drop freq to 575 to keep cool

look at this s-7
using a quality psu not 3  lower end server psu's like you are using

my power is  1200 watts

33763  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Looking to sell 3 s-1's close to New Jersey. on: December 05, 2015, 11:47:40 PM

I have three s-1's my zip code is 07731

 I can pack the three  in a schedule c flat rate box.  So Postage is on me if you are close to NJ.

Ideal for the "free" power miner.

 Please make serious offers  under 90 usd for the 3 with the shipping included. 

So for instance if you live in New York and offered me 80 bucks for the 3 they certainly would be yours.

If you live in New York and offer 59 bucks for the 3

 I would say no.


pm's or posts are welcome.

At 25$ per S3, i'm pretty much interested, am i reading correctly, but i'm in Québec. Buying a single unit was prohibitive since one unit was 40$ shippinh, but as a bulk, the shipping might only go up to 50-60$, that might be doable.

I will try to figure shipping.
Montreal is in Quebec ? Send me your postal code.
33764  Economy / Computer hardware / Looking to sell 3 s-1's close to New Jersey. on: December 05, 2015, 10:52:28 PM

I have three s-1's my zip code is 07731

 I can pack the three  in a schedule c flat rate box.  So Postage is on me if you are close to NJ.

Ideal for the "free" power miner.

 Please make serious offers  under 90 usd for the 3 with the shipping included. 

So for instance if you live in New York and offered me 80 bucks for the 3 they certainly would be yours.

If you live in New York and offer 59 bucks for the 3

 I would say no.


pm's or posts are welcome.
33765  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [SIDEHACK STICK] Official sales thread for everywhere not already covered on: December 05, 2015, 10:43:59 PM
AJRGale and KingColex--

Thanks for the answer.  Maybe some person will donate a used S7...       --scryptr
That would be great but I don't see this happening for a bit with the high cost of the S7 currently.

SALVAGE--

Surely someone has a failed board with several good chips to experiment with.  A donation or a tradeable item?       --scryptr

its all fine and good, but i see it pointless without a viable source of chips. there is not enough dead boards yet to pull and test, and there is no stock available to the public. So in the end, even if sidehack put the effort to R&D'ing a system for them, there is no source pay for his time into this development.

Hate to say it, but he has to eat and sleep under a roof too.
i offered one board and he just said no.

Basically for your reasons.  And one more it was a working s-7 so it would not make economic sense.

Actually bitmaintech is so fucking short sighted about selling  or should I say not selling s-7 chips to sidehack it is sad.

Just sell him a thousand or two thousand chips.

Make one restriction do not build a miner bigger then a th.

A one th miner does not really hurt the s-7 but does allow a guy to mine in his house.

How about onehundredsixty watts for one th.
33766  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Nov 11 to Dec 11 SIDEHACK compac stick pool club. New run. on: December 05, 2015, 09:33:50 PM
Can I add a couple of R-boxes to the pool?  Would only be around 65 Gh/s but every bit could help!  

Let me know


you do not seem to be on the list as a stick miner.

so for now the answer would be no.-- I could have missed something.

I may be missing you on list so let me look a bit more.

we now have a full list of 40 stick miners and a few as waiting room.

please let me review the waiting list and mining list.

waiting list:


wiefever
notabeliever
AJRGale
munky666
Searing
33767  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What frequency works best for Antminer S7? on: December 05, 2015, 09:15:00 PM
Honestly for me every miner is a little different.  With the exception of the 2 batch 7's the firmware is on those factory installed and on one of them I left it at 625 MHz and it mined at the advertised 5TH, the second batch 7 at 625 was performing poorly and I was only getting around 3.8TH so I dropped the freq to 600 and then is jumped up to 5TH.  The 19 others I have are batch 2 (which were advertised to run at 4.66TH at 575 TH), I flashed them with the most recent Bitmain firmware that supports the 600Mhz setting.  When I had the time I found that really going through them slowly and taking my time tweaking with the frequency (and not always up) making small changes has made an incredible difference.  For instance, I have some of mine set at 606MHz and some set 593Mhz.  I do not think I have anything set over 625 but you can certainly try.  Just make sure you are monitoring it closely when you make changes like that. I guess the whole point I am getting at is there is not perfect setting for every single miner out there.  You can have rough guidelines that work for most but if you are trying to dial in your farm, then you need to play with the settings to see what works with your farm.  Also keep in mind not all miners are going to perform at the highest Th rating possible.  Some of my miners no matter what settings I have changed and close I think I have dialed it in, I have had to settle for 4.5Th when I should be getting 4.8  and that ok, its just the way it goes.  If you are interested you can check out my mining set up here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1C2LQnBr2Y

If you like it, subscribe as I am always adding new content and I love audience feedback.  I look at bitcoin as a group learning effort.  In fact your thread has kinda of inspired me to create some kind of video addressing this very issue because I have seen this question or variations to this question come up before where people have had performance issues when dealing with several of the same type of bitmain products.  They are frustrated why two or more of the exact same product do not operate the exact same way.  

I hope this help!

This has been my experience as well! I have some running at 631 without a hitch, and some won't go above 600 before the hashrate PLUMMETS and hardware is up in the 0.x% range. Most are good around 625 frequency, but  I've had to fine tune each one to optimize it, and it doesn't appear to be heat or PSU related, it's completely luck of the draw. Hardware error seems to be a good indication, if they are very low (0.00xx%) you can try bumping frequency up one step at a time, and letting it normalize for a couple hours to see if it nets you better hashrate and minimal increases in HWE.   I have 2x B1's & 5x B5's, and there's no rhyme or reason as to why some will only do 600 and some are up to 631 and 5+ TH/s (maximum I'm comfortable with for my environment).

Lucky for me, the lowest one out of my units does 4.8 @ 600 frequency, and best one does 5.09 @ 631, most of them do around 5TH @ 625 frequency.

this unit with a evga 1600 t2  does freq 600 with 0%

my best one by far.  and if I use the meanwell at 12.4 volts I can do much higher

33768  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d - Also FAQ and Help on: December 05, 2015, 09:04:31 PM
If you are in North America what is the current price for these Avalon's? $1500 + Shipping ?

they sold out at ehash




they are 1449 at zoomhash plus shipping plus a rasp pi
http://zoomhash.com/collections/bitcoin-asics/products/avalon-6-3-65-ths-shipping-from-stock-in-us



they are 13900 for a ten pack at block-c
http://www.blockc.co/collections/bitcoin-miners-shop-avalon-blockc-co
33769  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks CLOSED! on: December 05, 2015, 08:58:20 PM
yeah looks like i was way over estimating this round.. With that crazy cpl days we had i thought surely it would soar.. I found this site today:)  maybe of some use to us  lots of good looking graphs and data.. puts it into perspective just who it is increasing our hashrate..  Wink


http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/hashrate/6m?c=m&r=week&t=a

Best Regards
d57heinz

    I think what hurt both of our picking styles is these big up and down moves.  It really looks like someone turns gear on and off > And a big piece of gear /farm/mine  maybe  20-30ph.
  So the ups and the lows not exactly good for making predictions. There was a lot of nice 1 watt gear and .6 watt gear.  

To have it sit in a building complex like this story  talks about is not farfetched.


http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-built-ghost-town-kilamba-angola-2012-7?op=1



BTW more then 147 blocks so far today at the 21 hour mark  we should be at 126  so  + 21 for the day. we are moving closer to 9%

https://blockchain.info/blocks


Height   
386889 (Main Chain)   2015-12-05 20:39:53   

386742 (Main Chain)   2015-12-05 00:00:46

147 made should be 126    + 21
33770  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks Open! on: December 05, 2015, 05:27:02 PM
+7.7    = ezeminer
+7.8    = VirosaGITS
+8.1    = wlefeve
+8.3    = The Young Turk
+8.4    = keystroke
+8.5    = valkir
+8.6    = Herbpean
+8.8    = tss
+9.2    = edonkey
+9.3    = Lituation
+9.4    = UfoRia (member registered September 22)
+9.5    = Amph
+9.7    = ailikun
+9.8    = vortexz
+9.9    = mikestang


I am thinking the guys above are closest

 https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty (+8.19%)

we have 209 blocks left   and we are pushing for over 160 today based on

https://blockchain.info/blocks

122 blocks in 17 hours 20 minutes rather then  104 so 18 over for the day  which is a 160-165 pace.

 so we are drifting towards 9 not 8

coinbase is at 377
33771  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Nov 11 to Dec 11 SIDEHACK compac stick pool club. New run. on: December 05, 2015, 04:38:32 PM
Would like to join and will wait till the next round. I'm on Kano.is pool and
wonder why my stick 178 accepted 60 rejected probably means I'm too slow of a miner. Using the new Bfgminer (works great now even for avalon1)
12.42/12.24/ 9.87ghs  HW:/2   running for 12 hours

somtimes I get CBM:0 Comms error <werr=1>



those are okay numbers.

 I will list you I think we may expand to 50 next round.
33772  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks CLOSED! on: December 05, 2015, 04:02:32 PM
Nice to not see 10 on there.   Even though it's still higher then I like 10 just is to much.  Price is around 278 which is pretty good.  Were making some gains there which makes me happy.

I'm sure you mean $378, right?

You seem to occasionally drop $100 in your posts. Maybe you have a subconscious wish for a lower price?

I have to admit that as a hobbyist hodler I'd prefer a lower price, and the corresponding lower difficulty. At least until my S7s ROI Wink


 I  was just going to ask op if he has a weird type of dyslexia as I noticed the error.

Maybe he is on a tablet they can be worse for typing.
33773  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN AntMiner APW3-12-1600 PSU Series on: December 05, 2015, 03:04:54 PM

good info  12.6 volts max is very good  that makes this a decent option for the s-7

There's a Vadj pot at the bottom. The max output voltage is around 12.6V. Need to remove the screws holding the PCB to get access to it.

33774  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What frequency works best for Antminer S7? on: December 05, 2015, 02:24:47 PM
Amen to that...  Would love to know if efficiency has decreased at all at that clock speed, if you ever get a chance to measure ATW consumption!

when I used this psu with the s-7

https://www.trcelectronics.com/ecomm/pdf/rsp1500.pdf


I set volts to 13 and ran both the s-7 and the avalon 6

in both cases  efficiency drops a bit the s-7 is .26 on this psu at 600 clock and drifted up to .29 running at freq 631.25 my batch 1 got pretty hot and loud so I can't do long runs with fans blowing at 4200 rpm.

This psu was purchased for testing  the s-7 and avalon 6 for underclock not overclock.  And right now under clock under volt is a no go.

But I have determined this.  both the s-7 and the avalon 6 should have at least 12.2 volts  not 11.9  this means finksy + j4bberwock

has the best units to mine the 2x 2000  units with a few volts setting are the best gear (240 volts fuck the sound).

At finksy pm me when I can get one of them.

I no longer tell anyone to use ATX psu with this gear.  Unless you have only 120 volts power
33775  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer s5 increasing HW error with overclock on: December 05, 2015, 02:14:08 PM
Some Miners will be more Voltage sensitive than others. For instance the S1 & S3 use Buck Converters to generate the Core Voltage, because of this they will compensate for variances in the supply voltage & protect you from problems due to voltage.

Other Miners like the S5, S7 & Avalon6 supply the ASIC chips connected in a string (Like Christmas Tree lights) The Core Voltage is then determined by the Supply Voltage divided by the Number of Chips in the string. So now dependant on the exact supply voltage you will get a different core voltage.

That supply voltage although nominally 12V is dependant on several factors. First is the voltage it is set to with no load. Next as you load the Power Supply that voltage will often change dependant on how good the PSU is and it's ability to regulate the voltage. Third and often forgotten the wires and connectors connecting the PSU to the miner have resistance and the higher the resistance the more the voltage will drop with load.

So the bottom line is. If you play with Miners buy a Multimeter. Then you can check the voltage that is actually at the PCIe connectors. I think that many Miner problems are PSU / Voltage related, and when presented with HW errors and other unexplained problems it's one of the first things to check.


Rich



When running at freq above norm (overclocking)  The s-5 the s-7 the avalon 6 all like hot psu's  ie 12.1 volts not 11.9 volts .

If you mine with the 3 above or a s-5+  keep that in mind.

BTW of all these units only the avalon 6 tells you the input voltage  so it is the only one that you do not need a meter to know.
33776  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks CLOSED! on: December 05, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
A rollover would be fun but I must admit I want an 8.4 as I never played this game before. Smiley How is the prize determined?

if your pick is 8.4  you get all numbers from 8.40 to 8.49  we use www.bitcoinwisdom.com as the number to match


Thanks Phil, but I meant what you meant when you said:

Quote
"Prize will be .36 or so."

okay misunderstood.

Normal prize = 0.1
We rolled over due to a miss so 0.1 + 0.1 = 0.2  and there was a side contest in which two winners of it  tossed in .008 each so this contest is   for

0.2 + .016 = 0.216 btc    I added if we roll over we would go to 0.36  that is simply bad math or a tired 58 year guy that can't always

remember  info   so if we roll over    we go from 0.216 to 0.316 btc  .

My bad on the math.    I can tell you this

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty   (+8.34%) >>>> You are really close to it and may win the 0.216 BTC this time


Bitcoin Difficulty:   72,722,780,643
Estimated Next Difficulty:   78,787,307,274 (+8.34%)
Adjust time:   After 231 Blocks, About 1.5 days
33777  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks CLOSED! on: December 05, 2015, 05:10:34 AM
A rollover would be fun but I must admit I want an 8.4 as I never played this game before. Smiley How is the prize determined?

if your pick is 8.4  you get all numbers from 8.40 to 8.49  we use www.bitcoinwisdom.com as the number to match
33778  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks CLOSED! on: December 05, 2015, 04:25:26 AM
Estimated Next Difficulty:    78,282,330,214 (+7.64%)
Adjust time:    After 309 Blocks, About 2.0 days
Hashrate(?):    530,905,391 GH/s

looks good, but the danger of hitting 10% or more is still here Tongue

no 9.5% max .
not enough blocks left.

we would need a 180 day and then pace at 180 for the rest of the blocks.  very hard to do.

33779  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HW Errors Antminer S5 on: December 05, 2015, 03:54:27 AM
Hi,

I'm writting here for solve doubts about HWE% acceptable for Antminer S5.

And, for example, the HWE% can going increasing and inflict a terrible damage in the miner?

Other point, my miners #2 have a bad chip, 1X, and the HWE% isn't high, why?

I going to attach the image here.



Good Vibes!

I rather see the gui to tell your problems but it looks like 1 miner has 1 x  which while not perfect is okay.

note the image did not show for you because you are new. but I checked it and allowed it to show.

I am not new and can do that.

I rather se a two or three hour screen shot  of the gui .  I would like to know  what psu's you use I would like to know the temps.
I would like to know the psu.  The fan speeds etc.

but if you stay at the stats above for two or three straight days you should be fine.
33780  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks Not Open Yet on: December 05, 2015, 03:45:50 AM
http://btc.blockr.io/charts

10-28 --112    
10-29 --153
10-30 --167    
10-31 --149    
11-1  -- 150    
11-2  -- 158      
11-3 --  153    
11-4  -- 157    
11-5  -- 146    
11-6  -- 142    
11-7  -- 153    
11-8  -- 143    
11-9  -- 148    
11-10 --145


11-11 --169
11-12 --158
11-13 --161
11-14 -- 146
11-15 --156
11-16-- 175
11-17-- 146
11-18-- 156
11-19-- 131
11-20-- 169
11-21-- 178
11-22-- 170

The ones below are for this adjustment

11-23-- 162
11-24-- 154
11-25-- 152
11-26-- 174

11-27 --128

11-28-- 159
11-29--147
11-30--165
12-01--170
12-02--158
12-03--141
12-04--154


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  (+7.79%)

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