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3381  Economy / Speculation / Re: So it's 2014, and NOTHING happened on: January 11, 2014, 04:39:13 AM
2013 was the year of the bitcoin

You ain't seen nothing yet!
BTC closed 2013 at $880, up 6,636% from $13.26 at the close of 2012. I don't think this can possibly be beaten unless 2014 closes higher than $58,400.
3382  Economy / Speculation / Re: 124000 USD from bitcoins order from Overstock.com on: January 11, 2014, 04:35:44 AM
What? He didn't send any miner fee. That bastard!
3383  Economy / Speculation / Re: 124000 USD from bitcoins order from Overstock.com on: January 11, 2014, 02:45:31 AM
buy all the stuff!!!



Is it using gox price?
3384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2014, 12:22:23 AM
New paradigm: btc to test ATH after only 6 weeks consolidation.
3385  Economy / Speculation / Re: I AM HODLING on: January 11, 2014, 12:17:28 AM
3386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2014, 10:34:24 PM
Does anyone notice a trend where people (mostly btce trollbox) get really excited whenever gox moves, as if gox confirms everything and is still market leader? Meanwhile the volume at gox is 3 times less than that of other exchanges, and nobody mentions the trading at other exchanges including their own exchange with three times the magnitude as that of gox. It doesn't make any sense. When will we decouple from gox?
3387  Economy / Speculation / Re: 124000 USD from bitcoins order from Overstock.com on: January 10, 2014, 07:48:47 PM
So bullish long term but bearish short term because the current btc price is a float lockdown play.
3388  Economy / Speculation / Re: 124000 USD from bitcoins order from Overstock.com on: January 10, 2014, 07:03:25 PM
I'm just saying people seem overexuberant about the initial number as if it may indicate every day in the future. The CEO even used the term "wow". Will he be adding dogecoin too?
3389  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Thin Red Line on: January 10, 2014, 06:59:29 PM
It seems as though our growth was planned way back in time.

I give you the most important line in Bitcoin history.

Everyone who sold above it is a winner. Watch out for this one in the future. Clearly big whales have been watching it (and it's parallels).

Someone has been steering these channels since way back.

(this was inspired by ronfkinswanson's version over at TV; it is now a Schiff Pitchfork and it's placed on the first 2011 bubble instead).

TV Link: https://www.tradingview.com/v/LZQWPiI3/




all this red line says is hodl. it says you should have held for two years at one point. ...try drawing that line on Oct 2012... I like the title though. reminds me of the movie.

the steady upwards growth says it will be at around 3k by the end of 2014.
Stop making arguments as if everyone is a long term investor trying to get the most out of a single trade - some of us like to trade the huge volatility swings also. I personally intend to have MUCH more than a 350% gain (to your 3000) by the end of the 2014.
3390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Its going down in a few hours on: January 10, 2014, 06:53:39 PM
This trend will hold itself in a weak way for another few days probably. Especially with all the news, it could be weeks, or until China takes a shit again (which can always be tomorrow).
3391  Economy / Speculation / Re: Manipulation dumps are so 2011 on: January 10, 2014, 06:50:04 PM
Sometimes people (or automated services) need to buy and sell large amounts of coin. Why is that hard to understand? Why is everything a scheme?
3392  Economy / Speculation / Re: 124000 USD from bitcoins order from Overstock.com on: January 10, 2014, 06:00:18 PM
This number doesn't really have that much significance. Obviously every bitcoin user is going to rush and make an order the first day to test out the system (or inflate the numbers). But what does it say about sales over a whole year? Or how many new users it'll attract?
3393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Overstock News, Branson News, Singapore News on: January 10, 2014, 01:02:09 AM
The price has risen 570% (or so) in the last two months. So, I don't understand the question.

The question is about news effect on price. Why did it rise 570%? It wasn't any news story that Im aware of.


Most of the price rise from $110 is due to China. There have been many news items as well but we don't know their effect in relation to China. We do not know what the true increase is if you take China out. Also, Overstock news already caused a price increase in the past, and we are simply finding out now that they have gone live ahead of schedule. So Overstock is already at least halfway priced in already before today's rise.
3394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2014, 12:45:40 AM
Why is nothing happening? Overstock not enough to take us back to >1000? WTF?
Fiat must hit the exchanges first, so give it some time.

I think Overstock news isn't market moving news.
Its been in the works for some time,and the market tends to price things in b4 they happen.
it does give me more confidence to buy more cheap coins ( if coin ever cheap happen... come on poeple SELL MORE COINZ! )
at this point whats really going to move the market into a 10K + bubble is the news of random bank bail-outs or bail-ins or wtv global financial problems. slowly but surely more and more poeple will wake up to whats really going on, get mad, and invest in bitcoin paper wallets.




But why on the other hand every fart from China has bigger effect than these news? I would think that we are already 100% over it, but i have feeling we are not yet...?

PS: How can I help to create some global financial problems?   Huh


Because nobody knows what the price is without China. China is responsible for the entire rise from $110. The silk road crash ended when China started buying. There are people who think even that the silk road crash would have continued lower without China, below $110, maybe all the way back to $60. Then China brought the price all the way up to $1250. For the past 3 months every exchange has simply followed the Chinese price like a slave. Now every time there is bad news the price just drops like a rock without any resistance. Then the price recovers because China started buying again - every time. People think "oh now China news has been factored in" but it hasn't. I STILL observe all exchanges following every movement of China like a salve - it is wired into all the bots and the strategies of all the traders - like an automated process. Anyone who thinks China isn't still leading is fooling themselves. So what happens if China is removed from the equation completely? Nobody knows where the drop would end, where real support on other exchanges would kick in, and what the true value is without China. It is some variable anywhere from $90 to $900. It is a mystery. Sure the news adds value but from what basis? Let's say overstock adds $50. $900 + $50 = $950. But also $90 + $50 = $140. Nobody knows so they are cautious.
3395  Economy / Speculation / Re: Overstock News, Branson News, Singapore News on: January 09, 2014, 11:51:04 PM
The positive news right now is like trying to move a train (choo choo). In these images I'll point out how the trend prior to the news was broken and how it resembled the trend in may prior to final capitulation.



3396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Overstock News, Branson News, Singapore News on: January 09, 2014, 11:20:04 PM
The market right now is in a state where it weak, low-volume, manipulated, and spring loaded for capitulation. It takes good news and good news just to keep the price afloat at this unnatural level but every time there is a negative news, the manipulation breaks.
3397  Economy / Speculation / Re: Steady, ever-increasing support for bitcoin price cointinues (with charts) on: January 09, 2014, 06:49:25 AM

So according to this chart we reach $100,000 before 2015?

Thats your interpretation.
I'm just pointing out a flaw in drawing arbitrary lines on arbitrary scales with no explanation.
3398  Economy / Speculation / Re: Steady, ever-increasing support for bitcoin price cointinues (with charts) on: January 09, 2014, 06:35:29 AM



So according to this chart we reach $100,000 before 2015?
3399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Steady, ever-increasing support for bitcoin price cointinues (with charts) on: January 09, 2014, 06:29:16 AM
Try using a chart of any exchange besides gox and see how badly this trend was violated.
3400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 09, 2014, 05:25:51 AM
2 buys on stamp at 21:40 and 21:45 (Arizona) with a combined volume of about 400 sends the price up about $10.
Lame. I miss April/May  "2 buys of with a combined volume of 40,000..."
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