Okay, the earth is flat, what about gravity then? why it save gravity value same at the "center" and at the "brinks". Sorry to ancients, I said brinks of earth.
Gravity is a theory, a shitty one that's wrong. How do you know? Because the only proof for this theory is from the 17th century where an occultist named Cavendish documented a flawed experiment he devised and performed in his shed; he drilled a hole in the wall and used it to view two suspended lead balls over some length of time. This experiment has never been replicated yet it's the basis for the constant G and the only "proof" of gravity scientists have. All of modern science, physics and ones entire mindset and belief system is based on fucking lead balls in a 17th century shed viewed through a hole drilled in the wall by a faggot who sacrifices chickens to Moloch. Don't you people get it? You've been fucked in the head by faggots to believe gravity is a thing when objects are just fucking dense and get pushed down. I have trouble understanding how you got the idea that gravity's proof is only 1 thing that happened in the 17th century when you can clearly read thats THE FIRST experiment to prove gravity, FIRST meaning first of many. You know virtually anything is based on gravity, right? |
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Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)
I believe in God, I have always believed, if I have any problems, then I ask the god for help, and he helps me)) I pretty much doubt that. How many times have you asked for help, did he always help you? Do an experiment and count the times he helps you or ask for something that only a god could do and you will see it's not real. |
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Some countries or state have been accepting this kind of marriage. Here in the Philippines, we do not recognize it as legal or something like that. How about in your country?
same sex marriage was a bad things in the sight of God. And those lesbian and gays are no space in heaven, therefore same sex marriage is really abhorrent in the eyes of almighty. So its a big, no! I'm not in favor with it  I agree with you... It's something that made God destroy two cities in a day... I totally hate it.. I stand against it and support the countries that stand against it. Your IQ is probably below 10 so I can't be too mad at you. If your smart god didn't want gay people, why did he make them? Do you not see the stupid logic there? I guess not, can't expect much from you anyways. |
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Its not a hoax! Evolution is just a fancy word for some fine ass, flawless and rule bound programming written by someone. For real, the way everything in this world works, including the biology of all organisms, it just seems so.... programmed. Coded. A little too perfectly.
However, science regarding cause and effect is not incorrect. Everything is programmed. Perhaps we will find it is not someday. But so far science has found nothing that is not C&E derived and affected. Point it out if you know of it. This means that even evolution theory has been programmed to have happened. The scientists and others who have made and upheld evolution theory have been programmed to do so by C&E. This in itself shows that the so-called random mutations spoken about in evolution theory, are not random at all. Scientists were simply programmed by C&E, as was their theory of evolution. Why would "some great programmer of nature" program scientists to think up a theory that says that there was pure random not affected by C&E, especially in the face of this programming, itself, proving evolution theory to be false? Why? To show the evolution scientists (and all of us) that even the things that they (we) are saying are programmed, so that they (we) can see that anything that seems to apply to evolution is programmed, as well, and not random mutations at all.  You can't prove everything is programmed, you can't even prove that everything has a cause (radioactive decay doesn't) |
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Okay, the earth is flat, what about gravity then? why it save gravity value same at the "center" and at the "brinks". Sorry to ancients, I said brinks of earth.
Gravity is a theory, a shitty one that's wrong. How do you know? |
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Science and religion rarely or never really intersects.
Science is simply the discovering "stuff" that religion already knows is there. Yeaaah, no. Science is dismissing religion's arguments one by one. We no longer believe in witches, miracles or demonic possessions. |
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Let me give another insight on the cause and effect argument since that's his only argument, all the others have been dismissed already. ''everything has a cause'' is not a factual statement and it is not known to be factual. Badecker only likes things that are factual, right? He keeps saying evolution theory is a theory not a fact. ''Everything has a cause'' is not a fact either and you can't prove everything has a cause, in fact some physicists would argue that some things may not have a cause. There are also arguments that show something that has an infinite cause because the effect is the cause. Either way, we do not know whether everything has a cause or not so that's wrong.
Let me give a little insight on cause and effect vs. evolution. C&E is found in millions or billions or trillions of operations that we know of. If there is an operation wherein we haven't found C&E, nothing else has been found in that operation, either. This means that it's C&E, or we don't know, but the gigantically overwhelming evidence is for C&E. Evolution is exactly the opposite. Close to 100% of the operations attributed to evolution have never been factually/ actually observed as part of the evolution process. There is all kinds of circumstantial evidence that is loudly proclaimed. But there is only a tiny amount of actually-been-seen evidence. This means that the few observed operations that have been attributed to evolution, are little islands of evolution, which makes them far more liable to be part of some operation other than evolution. This all means that a little, teensy-eensy evolution idea, is bucking overwhelming humongous C&E that says that evolution is something entirely different than evolutionists suggest. To put this into perspective, the odds that evolution could exist would be like a goldfish swimming up Victoria Falls in Zambia. It would like having a standard lottery drawing of millions of entries, with all the participants full winners. Close to 100% of evolution is simply a science fiction story. All of the 100% of C&E that has been observed is humongous. The little bit of evolution that seems to truly be evolution, still has C&E behind it, making it to be something entirely different than the evolution that evolutionists are proclaiming. In addition, no other points against evolution have been dismissed. Volumes have been filled with real reasons why evolution is false. Let's get to the point, and dismiss evolution as the science fiction that it is. But since the science fiction known as evolution is being touted as fact by those who know otherwise, evolution is a big, fat hoax. No nonooo. ''If there is an operation wherein we haven't found C&E, nothing else has been found in that operation, either. This means that it's C&E, or we don't know'' Fallacy. Again you cannot prove that everything falls down to C&E, specially in the past. Just like you don't to accept carbon dating or other dating methods because and I quote you here ''we can't be sure if they worked like that in the past'' just like we cannot be sure that C&E affects everything or if C&E existed in everything in the past. C&E is not known to be factual therefore you shouldn't use it. |
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We can use as proof the pendulum that proving the rotation of the earth, it's called Foucault pendulum, if earth is rotating, it must be spherical, I am not insist tho, better just google it. Ok?
Dartmouth Professor Discusses Foucault's Pendulum - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMxLVDuf4VYRead the comments, lol. Flatards can't even understand one of the simplest experiments that anyone can perform to prove earth's rotation, what a surprise. I got cancer from the comments, thanks. |
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Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)
Yes i believe in God because He give life to me and also to the all living things in the earth. He is the one who design the universe. Why do religious people keep saying this, how do you know? Do any of you have any kind of evidence that would lead to the idea that a god designed the universe? Any tangible evidence? |
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Let me give another insight on the cause and effect argument since that's his only argument, all the others have been dismissed already. ''everything has a cause'' is not a factual statement and it is not known to be factual. Badecker only likes things that are factual, right? He keeps saying evolution theory is a theory not a fact. ''Everything has a cause'' is not a fact either and you can't prove everything has a cause, in fact some physicists would argue that some things may not have a cause. There are also arguments that show something that has an infinite cause because the effect is the cause. Either way, we do not know whether everything has a cause or not so that's wrong.
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When I see this thread, I think about how stupid the average person is. Then I realize half the people in the world are stupider than that. These threads attract such people.  Why do you think that it is half the people who don't believe in God? You post without authority. You post nonsense. Religious people tend to have a lower IQ my friend. That's a fact, not a theory. That's good. Higher IQ doesn't necessarily give people a good life, or help them live longer. In fact, they often die sooner. Because lower IQ people can't figure out all the high IQ nonsense, they have a better chance at believing in God and finding salvation. Yes being dumb makes you happier and at the same time you are still dumb. '' Because lower IQ people can't figure out all the high IQ nonsense, they have a better chance at believing in God and finding salvation.'' In other words, because lower IQ people don't understand reality they have a better chance to be lied and believe in stupid shit, got it  |
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Well, I'm going to have to say it again but evolution does not violate any of the scientific laws badecker. You are saying that god programmed evolution, which still doesn't disprove evolution.
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How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?
How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted? One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution. There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations. Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process. Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident. Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution? True they had a cause, not a programmed cause, just a cause. Why are you saying programmed cause? They were not programmed they just have causes that we can't really predict because we don't have all the variables but not matter what the exact causes were it still true that the organism adapted to them and evolved. You are not disproving evolution. Simply because the mutation causes are the effects of other causes, all the way back to the Beginning. Programming. Yes all the way back to the beginning but not programming. Where do you get the programming part from? |
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How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?
How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted? One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution. There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations. Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process. Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident. Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution? True they had a cause, not a programmed cause, just a cause. Why are you saying programmed cause? They were not programmed they just have causes that we can't really predict because we don't have all the variables but not matter what the exact causes were it still true that the organism adapted to them and evolved. You are not disproving evolution. |
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One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.
The entire world believes in evolution, save for the one soul that somehow knows better than everyone... BD, pull your head out of the sand and experience reality. You are so funny. That we know of, the world isn't sentient. It doesn't believe or not believe anything. Put on the coffee so you can wake up and smell it. What you don't understand is that although mutations have causes it doesn't mean the causes are there on purpose to create what they created. There is nothing that suggests the cause of a mutation was set in place by a god, it's just a cause that was caused by another cause and so on. |
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How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?
How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted? One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution. There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations. Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process. Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations |
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That's the point. All the experiments that seem to prove that evolution is real, are cause and effect things. They are done by people, otherwise they wouldn't be experiments. People are the cause, and the effect is whatever it is. But way beyond that is the fact that all the things that people do are cause by whatever cause them to do them. So, evolution is cause and effect stuff. But since the description of evolution includes stuff that doesn't fall into the class of C&E, evolution is false. It's as simple as that. You mean cause and effect that was set in motion by zeus right? There you go, turning science into religion, again. You don't seem to understand the simple difference between science and religion. No wonder you believe in evolution. God also falls into C&E, god has a cause therefore it's a hoax. Cause and effect are effect are the way this universe works. C&E doesn't necessarily apply to God, Who was outside this universe at least when He made it. Talking religion again, right? Why would it not affect him just because he is outside the universe? Of course it does, C&E affects God therefore God is a hoax programmed by something else. C&E shows programming. Why religion? I thought God was already scientifically proven, no? Because if it affected Him from the standpoint that it affects us, then He would have been part of this universe. Are you trying to say that God created Himself right along with this universe? There is no evidence of that in anything that we have found. Of course you don't see any goddamned evidence, your head is buried in the sand. Also, creation of the earth / universe isn't even related to evolution and only scientifically illiterate people, such as yourself, believe the two to be the same. You don't have to get all upset like that. You are a truth seeker, right? And since I have shown you the all-pervading cause and effect, so that evolution has been proven to you to be a hoax, you should be overjoyed that the truth has finally been expressed to you. How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point? |
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That's the point. All the experiments that seem to prove that evolution is real, are cause and effect things. They are done by people, otherwise they wouldn't be experiments. People are the cause, and the effect is whatever it is. But way beyond that is the fact that all the things that people do are cause by whatever cause them to do them. So, evolution is cause and effect stuff. But since the description of evolution includes stuff that doesn't fall into the class of C&E, evolution is false. It's as simple as that. You mean cause and effect that was set in motion by zeus right? There you go, turning science into religion, again. You don't seem to understand the simple difference between science and religion. No wonder you believe in evolution. God also falls into C&E, god has a cause therefore it's a hoax. Cause and effect are effect are the way this universe works. C&E doesn't necessarily apply to God, Who was outside this universe at least when He made it. Talking religion again, right? Why would it not affect him just because he is outside the universe? Of course it does, C&E affects God therefore God is a hoax programmed by something else. C&E shows programming. Why religion? I thought God was already scientifically proven, no? |
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That's the point. All the experiments that seem to prove that evolution is real, are cause and effect things. They are done by people, otherwise they wouldn't be experiments. People are the cause, and the effect is whatever it is. But way beyond that is the fact that all the things that people do are cause by whatever cause them to do them. So, evolution is cause and effect stuff. But since the description of evolution includes stuff that doesn't fall into the class of C&E, evolution is false. It's as simple as that. You mean cause and effect that was set in motion by zeus right? There you go, turning science into religion, again. You don't seem to understand the simple difference between science and religion. No wonder you believe in evolution. God also falls into C&E, god has a cause therefore it's a hoax. |
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When I see this thread, I think about how stupid the average person is. Then I realize half the people in the world are stupider than that. These threads attract such people. Why do you think that it is half the people who don't believe in God? You post without authority. You post nonsense. Religious people tend to have a lower IQ my friend. That's a fact, not a theory. |
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