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3381  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I was finally able to purchase an iPhone 13 pro max using my Bitcoin on: February 03, 2022, 08:51:09 AM
I went to buy a phone with my friend today. Going there, Iphone 13 pro max became my favorite phone.  And arouses interest in buying. But I did not have enough money to buy that phone in my pocket. I laugh and talk about Bitcoin to the owner of that showroom. I was surprised to that the owner of that showroom want to sell his phone to me  for Bitcoin. And I asked him again, "Are you kidding me?"then He immediately gave me a bitcoin wallet to pay him. I paid him bitcoin and bought the Iphone 13 pro max.

Since the price of Bitcoin has come down a lot now, it has become foolish for me to buy the phone with Bitcoin.  Because for that I have to spend more bitcoin.  But still I am very happy to be able to do it.  Because in my country Bitcoin is still declared as an illegal currency.  Nevertheless, I got this advantage

I hope you will not regret your decision, kidding.

Well, bitcoin will be more valuable in the future, but since you spend that money to buy a phone, you should already accept that you don't own that bitcoin. As long as you have more bitcoin in your wallet, you can still hold it and prepare for the future.

Congrats on your new phone, that's a great phone but I tell you, its value will depreaciate unlike bitcoin that will appreciate in the long run.
3382  Economy / Lending / Re: DarkStar's Loans | BTC, USDT | 2.70%-6.60% Monthly on: February 03, 2022, 08:06:03 AM

partial payment.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/9f39a35bef9468e1ecf286fa766a33dcb81e6f7612cc31b652e43ebda2755b75

Thanks.
3383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: February 02, 2022, 03:49:38 PM
Nets' bad performance in the first quarter caused them to lose against Suns by 121-111 last night. I was expecting a result like this though. In the absence of KD, Nets are having serious problems this season recently. They got their fifth consecutive loss and they have dropped to the sixth place in the standings. This is not good for them as they might go down to the area which they would have to play extra playoff games. KD is out for a long time and I hope that they can collect themselves until then.
It's not just KD, this is also the result of having a star that is just being inserted in road games. It is not healthy for their bench players and even their first five. Plays will go messy and sometimes they won't even know what to do or who to obey and where the play should be.

Scary hard foul by Harrell to Giannis. It's not fun to see those type of plays specially when a guy is in mid-air. If you cannot reach him, just let it go and give him the deuce. Luckily, he was not hurt but what if he is? That could have been a shoulder injury or worst.
Bucks still won the game.

KD is expected to be unavailable in the games for more than a month after his MCL injury, so best guess is hopefully he'll be back in action somewhere in March. On the other hand, they still have Harden and Irving but only to play on the road games because he's not yet vaccinated and that right there is the reason why things mess up because their rotation will be different on the road and on homecourt. The Nets management should settle this matter at once because Irving is obliged to play both road games and homecourt and also get vaccinated because he signed a contract to them.

Scary hard foul by Harrell to Giannis. It's not fun to see those type of plays specially when a guy is in mid-air. If you cannot reach him, just let it go and give him the deuce. Luckily, he was not hurt but what if he is? That could have been a shoulder injury or worst.
Bucks still won the game.

Giannis really felt that his ribs are hurting after that and I think Harrell should got ejected on the game after that incident because I think he purposely committed a flagrant foul, it was clear that he can't reach Giannis but he forced it.
3384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: February 02, 2022, 01:13:09 PM
I'm also putting my freebet Sportsbet on the line for the Warriors tonight.
https://i.imgur.com/rgxprGl.png

source: https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/1488596664122183680
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Steph Curry is out tonight in San Antonio. Sitting on the second night of a back-to-back. Warriors will also be without Andrew Wiggins, Otto Porter, Klay Thompson, Andre Iguodala, Draymond Green, Nemanja Bjelica, James Wiseman. Skeleton crew.

Don't want to be the bearer of bad news but the Warriors are sitting out Curry today. Never go early with those player props, that free bet gone to waste now.

Damn! I should have known better, I was really skeptical about betting early which was why I only went with players that I was pretty sure were okay.

That's 2 mBtc what of freebet down the drain  Sad

Fortunately, your bet wasn't a waste as the Warriors have won and covered the spread too Cheesy
I gotta confess that I also got nervous when I read that Curry, KT and Wiggins won't be playing the game against the Spurs because I also betted much earlier but thankfully these young bench fellas saved the day especially J. Poole.

PS. No more early bets Cheesy

It's important that you have to be careful in putting your bets especially if we are talking of a decent amount here. It was not announce early that they will not play, but despite of that, those who bet on the Warriors by mistake are still lucky because the Warriors still won the game.

We can't avoid these mistakes because the reports and final line-up are sometimes won't be announced early. Nevertheless, we still should be careful enough and bear in mind the factors that could potentially affect the play because this season is really unpredictable at all.

Moving on, there will be a lot of interesting games tomorrow so take your bets everyone. As for me, I'll go for the Grizzlies -3.5 against the NY Knicks and I'm pretty confident that they would bounce back after their lost yesterday and defeat the Knicks on the road.
3385  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Coins.ph Official Thread on: January 31, 2022, 12:23:56 PM
Actually, included din yung username, e-mail, and campaign signature transactions ko dito sa forum as part of the required documents para siguro hindi sila magtaka kung saan nangagaling yung weekly BTC.

Hala pati ito necessary? Grabe na pala ang verification process ngayon. Need talaga idisclose ang nga specific na transactions especially the regular payment you are receiving weekly.

Sabagay, para wala ng question sabihin na lahat.

Kung ganyan ang requirements nila parang wala na tayong privacy, mas strict pa yata sila kaysa bank. Sa akin sinabi ko lang nag remittance, tapos comply nalang sa mga documents na needed, pero not sure kung ganyan pa rin if ever ma require ulit ako mag KYC, so far this year wala pa naman, sana lang hindi magayan kay qwertyup23 kasi mahirap magpaliwanag.
3386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: There is fear in the market, isn't it time to buy? on: January 31, 2022, 11:55:36 AM
Investing is necessary when people are afraid.
That's the best situation, when they are afraid, they panic and make the right decision, hence it will result to a cheap price and that's the opportunity the smart investors are looking for.

I think right now is a good time to invest, prices have already dropped. I don't think it will drop any further. In a bull time, anything can happen at any time, you can see the price drop all of a sudden.
At the moment, on the contrary, the price may increase in an instant Smiley
The bull market is gone already, at least that's just my personal view of the current situation, so now the price is cheap but it's still possible that what we are seeing now is not the dip yet, IIRC, the cheapest was $34k, and I expect we will go down below $30k.
3387  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: January 31, 2022, 10:36:58 AM

Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.

Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.

If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.

I hope that this match would be fair for both of them. Casimero has been too dedicated in his fights so I'm sure that despite his opponent's edges, he could still win this match. Lots of people believe in him and I guess, he will do everything not to fail or disappoint his supporters.

It will be fair, no doubt about it, both are training hard so it's just a matter on who punches hard and have the tools to beat the other guy. And most likely it will be Casimero although he will be fighting in a hostile crowd in UK. Wherein we all know that they are very rude crowd to the point that they are somewhat on the boundary of being 'racist'. Nevertheless, Casimero has been in this situation before and he will still be the favorite here to win even if the fight is going to be held on Butler's home court.

As you said, it's a hostile ground and I think we already know how far these people can go just to deviate the scores if they're that dedicated, so Casimero and his team should be ready and watch out if indeed this speculation will happen and a lethal punch that could knock Butler out is the best option they got to avoid favoritism among the judges. Nonetheless, I have no doubt that Casimero have what it takes to defeat Butler and that he could overcome this fight.
3388  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: January 31, 2022, 10:16:08 AM
I blame Frank Vogel. He used to be one of my favorite coaches before this year, but he’s absolutely terrible for the Lakers. A team with 5 hall of famers and Malik Monk is leading them… Dwight Howard playing at a top level and getting next to no minutes is downright disrespectful. If Frank Vogel is still the Lakers coach after the all star break then I’ll be shocked. He’s a great guy and like I said one of my favorite coaches, but he’s got to go if the Lakers want to have a chance of getting beyond the first round of the playoffs, and to be honest if he’s the coach I don’t see them getting past the play-in game.

I'm not sure why Vogel even deserved the credit for the Lakers winning.

But yeah, it's definitely time to swap him out for someone else with fresh ideas and a better leader in my opinion. It's not an easy job and definitely not for anyone so the Buss family needs to choose wisely.

But honestly, the championship chances with LeBron at the helm is slim - he is aging at the end of the day.

I really think so too that the management should let Vogel go and find another head coach who can truly help the roster as he's not really that effective anymore on the Lakers this season. That's their only option for now, it's a pity seeing them in that situation when infact they had the best all time players too especially LeBron who have so much burden on his shoulder despite of his age.

If this really continue with Vogel as their head coach, the chances to be in the playoffs to are indeed slim what more in the Finals. Just saying!
3389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 on: January 31, 2022, 08:47:29 AM
I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

It's somehow expected that Thurman will go berserk mode in either the middle rounds or late rounds because in the first few rounds he'll probably overcome the ringrust effect first before he can fight comfortably and confidently. But sure that won't be a problem to him as he's a former world champion. Both fighters are so dedicated and determined to win this match, they have their own reasons why and we probably know that already, anyway we will see it soon.
3390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 31, 2022, 08:27:36 AM

Anyhow, the PBA can't afford anymore if there's some other upcoming setbacks like another variant (cross finger) because they've poured too much funds already according to the PBA. Yes, at last PBA will resume soon and this time, the dates of the games are already posted so I suppose we can now bet again next week. Happy betting everyone!
We should hope and believe that the government already learn the possible ways to continue decreasing the spread, PBA can't afford another delay to their target schedule, it's been long since they postponed the game and for sure they are really affected financially, but likewise, the betting will be resume for the gamblers and aside from those fans who's longing to see their teams and players, gamblers are also excited to place their bets.. Roll Eyes Tongue
I'm glad the news came out that they will resume next month, I've been waiting for that good news and now it's finally confirmed. It looks like it was just stopped yesterday and will resume tomorrow, I understand that they need to do it because of the restrictions but I'm glad that they will return.

The betting will start soon, please don't forget to share your bets as well. right here! Smiley
No more setbacks as we go to alert level 2 in February, but to make sure its still better to PBA to play on a bubble and aim to finish this conference in February. I know it might be a short period of playing but at least, they finish the conference and they can now start to prepare for another conference. Can’t wait to watch them back again, my betting money is also ready for action.

Again, let's hope that there would be no setbacks this time around and that PBA could continue its games without any cancelled or postponed games, especially now that the NCR is already under Alert Level 2 so it's back to business for the PBA. Also, I've read somewhere that for now there would be no audience allowed as for safety precautions but the good news is if ever that things will go smoothly, then maybe after 2 weeks they would allow limited audience to watch and participate in the said games, live.
3391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will bitcoin ever get regulated on: January 31, 2022, 06:53:18 AM
Bitcoin is decentralized so no one can easily control it even if bitcoin becomes a law in the whole world it will take a long time to control like fiat. Bitcoin is the currency of an online currency system this currency system is also called cryptocurrency it cannot be seen or touched it is created online and used online digitally. Bitcoin is completely controlled by us it is not controlled by any organization or individual with no government control investors can safely use bitcoin.

Regulation is not literally on bitcoin itself because by nature bitcoin cannot be controlled since it uses a decentralized system. What we are talking here is about the regularization of a certain country to impose the rules to the 3rd party like an exchange to adopt with the standard rules and regulation, particularly on the KYC and Anti Money Laundering law.
3392  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: January 31, 2022, 06:14:17 AM
@mirakal, congrats sa mga parlay mo kabayan, mukhang swerte ka ngayon sa parlay na yan ahh.

Mukhang busy ang mga sportsbettor natin ngayong weekend at walang nakapag-post ng kanilang mga picks.

Bukas, daming laro pero as usual isa lang yong pupustahan ko.

Cavs -7.5 @2.01 vs Pistons, sana palarin hehe.



Napansin ko rin sa dami ng magagandang laro walang nakapag share dito, same lang din dahil linggo at kadalasan may mga
activities tayo kasama ng mga kanya kanyang pamilya, walang oras makapanuod at makataya, pinanuod ko na lang highlights
buti din d ko natayaan yung -6.5 ng warriors kundi olats,.

Good luck dyan sa napili mo mukhang maganda yang handicap medyo iba talaga ung momentum ng Cavs humaharorot
na sila sa east at kung papalarin lalong aangat ung standing nila.

Nasa -7.5 pa rin ang Cavaliers, mukhang mananalo yan at ma cover and spread.

Samantala, yung parlay ko talo na, tinalo kasi ng Clippers ang charlotte, so ayun, bawi nalang ulit, ang aga ng laro kaya meron pang chance makabawi today. Hindi na muna parlay, yung isang bet ko nalang tatayaan ko,, double ko nalang ang bet para pag nanalo profit pa rin.

Jazz ML na.



Grabe yung nangyari nakakagulat, baligtad kinalabasan tinalo ng Piston yung Cavs double digit pa yung nilamang, napansin nyo din ba yung pagkatalo ng Bucks? anlaki ng lamang tapos pag sinilip mo eh kumpleto naman halos yung lineup nila hindi lang productive at maganda rin siguro yung gising ng mga players ng Nuggets..

Tumal ng pagkakasabay mo sa Jazz kabayan, wala si Mitchell at Gobert na injury pa si Ingles..

Di bale bawi na lang ulit, maraming laro na pwedeng aralin..  Roll Eyes Wink

Oo nga eh, medyo malas tayo ngayong araw na to, pero babawi tayo tomorrow, baka swertihin naman. Ganyan naman talaga, minsan talo rin hindi palaging panalo. May nakikita na ako na magandang tayaan para bukas.

Tingin ko, mukhang papalag rin ang Warriors sa -10.5, homecourt ng Rockets, at saka Sixers -4 na rin.
3393  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 30, 2022, 09:47:01 PM
Today i bet over 18,5 pts Anfernee Simons vs Chicago. Bulls playing without their best defenders Lonzo and Caruso. They will pay the most attention in defense to CJ McCollum. This will open up space for this extremely dynamic player.

Simons already had 14 points after the 1st half, looks like this is a winning bet of yours, but it also looks like the Bulls are going to win and would cover the spread. Good luck and get that win mate.
3394  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: January 30, 2022, 09:17:42 PM
@mirakal, congrats sa mga parlay mo kabayan, mukhang swerte ka ngayon sa parlay na yan ahh.

Mukhang busy ang mga sportsbettor natin ngayong weekend at walang nakapag-post ng kanilang mga picks.

Bukas, daming laro pero as usual isa lang yong pupustahan ko.

Cavs -7.5 @2.01 vs Pistons, sana palarin hehe.



Napansin ko rin sa dami ng magagandang laro walang nakapag share dito, same lang din dahil linggo at kadalasan may mga
activities tayo kasama ng mga kanya kanyang pamilya, walang oras makapanuod at makataya, pinanuod ko na lang highlights
buti din d ko natayaan yung -6.5 ng warriors kundi olats,.

Good luck dyan sa napili mo mukhang maganda yang handicap medyo iba talaga ung momentum ng Cavs humaharorot
na sila sa east at kung papalarin lalong aangat ung standing nila.

Nasa -7.5 pa rin ang Cavaliers, mukhang mananalo yan at ma cover and spread.

Samantala, yung parlay ko talo na, tinalo kasi ng Clippers ang charlotte, so ayun, bawi nalang ulit, ang aga ng laro kaya meron pang chance makabawi today. Hindi na muna parlay, yung isang bet ko nalang tatayaan ko,, double ko nalang ang bet para pag nanalo profit pa rin.

Jazz ML na.

3395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 on: January 30, 2022, 06:27:31 PM
Of course both boxers will do everything to win. We should not stay confident that Thurman will win just because of records.

If others don't know, other analyst thinks that Thurman is already rust. Barrios on the other hand is active and given with a chance that he can win on this fight against the former champion, Thurman.
That's bad for Thurman that many analysts think that he is rusty and that many are siding on Barrios against him which isn't nothing to be surprised, we always want fresh and active fighters more than those who rest. But at the end of the day, we don't know what's going to happen next, maybe the ring rust for Thurman isn't that heavy so we might still see a decent match against Barrios.

Thurman's boxing experience can speak of that, he's still a pretty decent fighter even if he rested for a couple of years and he still can be lethal if Barrios will underestimate him or lower his guard for a bit. Though, we can't ignore the fact that Thurman was inactive but we'll see how will he cope for that because we know that there's some effect for being inactive. We'll see it soon!
3396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 30, 2022, 04:35:34 PM

It's good that they already have a date for the resumption. I think all of the imports who nurses an injury are all well now and those who are in the US will have some time to travel and be there in the re-opening.

If NCR is on alert level 2 then possibly crowd will be allowed soon.

Anybody here knew the status of James Yap on ROS? He was given a contract by ROS and yet i have not seen him played this conference.
It's been adjust for the betterment I guess, thanks for the update and changing alert level will allow the full resumptions of the game and with lowering it to alert 2 means that in any time soon the crowd will also be allowed to watch the games, I more on seeing them inside metro and not in a bubble type setup.

Very familiar venue and players don't need to adjust, practices will also be resumed and they can work everything in a normal way.

Let's hope for the best and enjoy picking our bets..  Roll Eyes Wink

It's great that our country was able to manage the pandemic, the number of cases are dropping so we are back in business again, especially for the PBA. I expect a full resumption that no interruption is going to happen again. Everything should be in place now that PBA will resume in February 11, and the amount of time given for practice is enough for them to fully prepared for the remainder of the conference.

Anyhow, the PBA can't afford anymore if there's some other upcoming setbacks like another variant (cross finger) because they've poured too much funds already according to the PBA. Yes, at last PBA will resume soon and this time, the dates of the games are already posted so I suppose we can now bet again next week. Happy betting everyone!
3397  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 30, 2022, 03:25:17 PM

Bucks vs Knicks, The Bucks needed a win to snap their losing skid right now and the Knicks might be a perfect victim. And it will be in their homecourt so I guess -9.5 for the Bucks in this game.

The line is really too high considering that the Knicks is a decent team. But I like the line, it tells us to bet on the Knicks but what would happen in this game is that the Bucks will dominate them and win by more than 10 points, I hope my expectation will come into reality.

I'm with you mate, though the spread was pretty high, I'm still confident that the Bucks could defeat the NY Knicks for more than 10 points tomorrow and I have faith that they will bounce back in their own homecourt after their huge loss against the Cavaliers with 16 points.

Bucks will try to bounce back after that loss from the Cavs,

Taking the risk for the handicap might be challenging, but we know that Bucks can really cover this if they have
a good run during the game.

If still the combination of Giannis, Middleton and Holiday jive a good blend, it's worth the risk sparing some
coins in this game, Best of Luck!

Congratulations mate, and to all who put their bets on the Bucks. Surely it wasn't an easy handicap but luckily they've defeated the NY Knicks and managed to score 123 points with a 15 points difference.
As expected, Giannis led the game and made 38 points alone with ofcourse the help of Middleton and Holiday who also managed to contribute a total of 44 points.

Yes, it was a good game for the Bucks, Giannis another monster game and then Middleton was quiet early scoring just 9 points at the half but then finished the game with 20. And then Holiday, not just scoring by orchestrating the offense with 10 assists. So at least they are now back in winning form, good for 4th place in East.

@mirakal - congrats bro, no know the drill, will tail you again in our local thread, hehehe.

Thank you mate, we just got lucky this time that our instincts were right. Grin

Moving on, I'll go for Jazz @ +1 because I'm pretty confident that they would bounce back in this game and defeat the Timberwolves on their own home after losing 4 games in a row, though Mitchell is still questionable if he could play tomorrow. Also, I would add and take Hornets @ -6 against the Clippers as they're still more vulnerable now. Goodluck!
3398  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: January 30, 2022, 12:14:38 PM
@mirakal, congrats sa mga parlay mo kabayan, mukhang swerte ka ngayon sa parlay na yan ahh.

Mukhang busy ang mga sportsbettor natin ngayong weekend at walang nakapag-post ng kanilang mga picks.

Bukas, daming laro pero as usual isa lang yong pupustahan ko.

Cavs -7.5 @2.01 vs Pistons, sana palarin hehe.



Salamat kabayan, medyo na busy nga, alam mo na, family day.

Good luck sa cavaliers pick mo, mukhang maganda yan, favorites na road team, ayun sa nababasa ko, basi sa trend, malaki raw ang chance manalo mag cover compared sa home favorite.

Parlay ulit tayo, Utah Jazz & charlotte ( point spread parlay).
3399  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Bear Market thread on: January 30, 2022, 12:00:23 PM
Ano na ang nagawa nyo during this bear market?
Bought BTC and few altcoins too pero majority are still on stablecoin, inaantay ko pa sumipa talaga 'cause I feel like we're still not in the bottom. But, maybe that's just me? Not sure.
Base dun sa article ng Cointelegraph, on chain data analytics ng Glassnode firm states na this month of january alone marami parin nagpapanic-selling. Also, considering na paparating na Chinese new year, baka mas bumagsak pa buong crypto-market. Happened before on 2017.

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/bull-or-bear-market-bitcoin-losses-from-panic-selling-mount-in-2022

Parang yan rin nangyayari before, siguro more dip pa para mas ganahan pa tayong bumili at mas malaking panic ang mangyayari. Not wishing na babagsak talaga totally, pero kung bearish ang market, malaki talaga ang opportunity natin.
3400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: January 30, 2022, 08:46:45 AM
Heat will win this, I also favor them to win on their home court, however, the betting line or the point spread is very high, I think the Clippers will be able to cover it as they are still very competitive despite losing their 2 all stars (Leonard and George).  I know I will enjoy watching this game, I hope my expectation that it will be a close game will happen.  Smiley

Yeah, the Heat looks clearly the favorite in this match. However, there are rumors that Butler is questionable tonight. So it might be a close game if he doesn't play. It's also worth noting these teams have already faced each other this season, and the Clippers showed that they can beat the Heat.

I also read about that too, this season is really interesting because there's more factor we need to consider before we bet on our desired team as we can't know for sure in advance who will play. Rumor has it that Butler won't be around against the Clippers as he's still undergoing some recondition, I suppose. But he played and lead the game today together with Bam Adebayo while taking the advantage that the key players of Clippers is not around and he made 26 points

Final score: MIA 121 - 114 LAC

He did, but it was still a close game and I'm impressed with how the Clippers are playing so far. They don't need a star player like PG, they are playing well as a team, it's just unfortunate that they don't have enough talent to compete against a top team like the Miami Heat.

Well, atleast they did their best to give the fans a close game even though they have no active star player in that game and I really admire them for that. But I hope they can join the playoffs this year even though their outmanned by other top teams.
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