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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: My theory about Waves on: September 14, 2017, 02:39:26 PM
I don't think the price is artificially kept low. But I do agree that the DEX is the culprit. The current DEX is complete and utter shit and completely useless for any serious traders.

If Waves ever gets a serious DEX that can appeal to masses of traders and investors it will start gaining traction. At that point we'll see the price of Waves increase because they will be needed to trade on the platform, which would then have a larger volume of transactions. Furthermore, due to increased activity the mining revenues will increase substantially. This will have two effects, on one side it will increase the amount of Waves sold as it will be a form of "dividend" for miners. On the other hand, people will re-lease the mined fees to get even more fees. Overall, the price should be going up though.

However, this depends massively on the quality and speed of the DEX.

Another point that would greatly help Waves would be a better GUI for the platform. One that would make it stupidly easy to create tokens and to actually use them for voting and other contracts. What is currently missing (in crypto in general), are smart contracts that a donkey could program. Waves has a unique starting point for this due to the fact that it already uses a "platform" of its own. Whether or not they will successfully leverage it is an open question though.

I feel the same. DEX needs improvement, certainly the charts, and when you're orders are executed, it doesn't show up immediately. It's more like etherdelta and need to be something like trex, functionality wise. Once that happens, we can see waves easily going above $10. Just look at Binance before the crash.
342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH - will it go lower on: September 14, 2017, 02:29:29 PM
This big correction was due for sometime. From here on Eth can go under 200$, but it mostly depends on where BTC finds the bottom. Unfortunately everything is still tied to BTC. And if BTC drops the ripple effect is felt all across alt market.
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LBRY.IO - DICUSSION THREAD on: September 10, 2017, 09:32:35 AM
I invested in LBRY on 22nd june when it was pumping from 17th june 11.27 worth of bitcoins and at that time LBRY reached 92 cents, Now my bitcoins are worth 2.5 and I am one the biggest bag holder of these, Guess it was my start in trading and I have learnt the hard way, I thought and believed this to be a great project but I don't know why this particular project has not recovered, All other altcoins have been recovering but not this particular one. Guess I will remain the bag holder of it till my 30k+ lbc becomes same worth as I invested in.

ouch!!

im really sorry for you loss BUT it's not a loss unless you sell!! i was in a very similar situation in 2014 when i bought vericoin almost near its top and held the bag for a long time

you gotta look on the bright side, even though your down on your BTC investment, the price in BTC is going way up so your recouping your losses just because BTC is worth more.

my advice to you would be to accept that you are a long term holder of LBC and you should try to avg down by buying and trading.

..last little bit of encouragement..i sold all my vericoin early this year for a 2 BTC gain just because i held over the years and staked and traded the coin actively. if you just keep your head up and dont give up and sell you will get back in the green. just be grateful that you are bag holding a legit project and not one where the dev bails and coin goes to zero

Appreciate your advice. I can be a bag holder for this one and will trade in other coins till it gets back to my original amount of btc ATLEAST.

But if you see and recognize a once in a life time opportunity you can sell your coins. Do take advantage. Maybe this experience is a positive in that in can cause you to look and search for something that you wouldn't have found without this experience.

For others reading this, this was not meant to sound as if LBRY is a bad coin, just that he bought at the top of a pump.


Your absolutely right on that! Bad investments leads to good investments sometimes. But I am waiting for it till my coins are 5.5BTC, So I can take 50% loss. Right now its 2.5BTC, It doesn't feel right for me to sell em at this rate. I am sure things will get better for LBRY.

One time I made a really bad investment, and tried to make my money back with that particular coin. It's good to wait and hold, but if, and only if you see a once in a couple of years rare opportunity, take those 2.5 BTC and put it there.

It's a very risky business, especialy day trading. It can lead to some real life consequences. So yesterday I Googole "Day trading Suicide," because I imagine that it could be a common thing.

You are not in loss if you're not selling. LBC is not a good coin, but it ain't very bad either. I'm certainly positive that it will go beyond 92 cents again within six months. Just be strong and keep holding. This bad trade can be turned into good one, if you keep on holding.
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How about them WAVES!!?? on: September 10, 2017, 09:22:24 AM
Waves is one of the better projects available in the market right now. It is still a cheap altcoin and i personally believe that it is undervalued. I think that it will replace ethereum in coming years and you can expect high returns from your investment.
Yup, i am also thinking in the same way, so I bought some coins and saved in my wallet. I will not use that coin to trade I keep for long term investment. I am also hoping that this coin will replace ETH in the future and very soon this coin will take off and the price will start to increase. Many new projects are developing based on this projects, so they will make this coin to become famous in short time.

You can lease those coins and make some money while holding. Apart from that if you hold waves in liteclient then you get airdrops from new coins, and sell them for some profit. It's win win situation.
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Tezos: A Self-Amending Crypto-Ledger on: September 10, 2017, 09:18:15 AM
Not really no. I feel like everyone has this backwards. If this were stock in a company, the price of the stock is directly related to the value of the company (how much it has in assets).

Tezos is the opposite of the majority of these ICO's, the money isn't just handed out to the team who created the whitepaper, it is managed as funds for the network by a non-profit organization. You can think of the tokens as being directly backed by these funds in a way.

For most ICO's particularly all the ERC-20 garbage as of late, it's not that. They take your money, put it in their bank accounts and give you something useless in return.

And don't forget these area all micro-cap investments anyway. Linkedin the website was bought for 26 BILLION. Even at 200 Million for Tezos, it's just a tiny tiny marketcap with decent financial backing. Other projects are tiny marketcaps with tiny financial backing!

Look at Ripple or Bancor. It stays low level due to huge market cap.


No, Bancor was a classic example of everything that is wrong with the garbage ERC-20 tokens. It was just a bad unworkable idea with nothing actually behind it. I think I recall 40 lines of code was behind the poorly conceived idea http://hackingdistributed.com/2017/06/19/bancor-is-flawed/

Tezos was in the works back in 2014 (code wise) and conceptually prior to even that. It has a tremendous code base and a large development team. A 200 million or 2 Billion of even 200 Billion market cap for a global system of currency will look like nothing.

Part of me is just thrilled that folks in this space can somehow think Tezos and these other projects are even in the same universe! That confusion might allow me to invest a decent amount into it before it blows up.

most of the people here dont have any clue about what they are investing in. I wrote in Bancor thread weeks before the ICO that this "business idea" makes no sense. Also Bancor is just an idea of an app on top of ETH. Comparing this with tezos is jsut insane. tezos is a complete new blockchain / ecosystem/ with a (small) potential to be a game changer aka bitcoin and/or eth killer

ripple had huge gains this year. it makes sense that it can not gain more now. Also there is no real usage of ripple until now

Truly said!! Comparing tezos with other ERC20 tokens or ripple makes no sense. Tezos has different purpose, whereas ripple has nothing.
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: SALT for sale OTC $8.00 on: September 10, 2017, 08:43:52 AM
Why you all are selling at so low price, when the retail price for tokens will be higher than 12.5$ anyway
347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DECENT Announcement - Decentralizing Content Distribution on: September 10, 2017, 08:22:48 AM
Panic is already started, This is the perfect time for DECENT purchase, I can bet anyone who is buying DCT today and hold for a while than there will be same feeling as with Bitcoin bought in 2010 and hold till 2016-2017.

Panic started because the price w.r.t to average price drop of other coins is more steep. The reason is that Decent team had almost an year to deliver, and they came with a less than impressive product. I am holding some decent, but will refrain from buying more, and probably wait for some good update. As of now it looks like some project which you do in your second year of undergrad in computer science.
348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bancor | Protocol for Smart-tokens, solving the liquidity problem on: September 10, 2017, 08:11:54 AM
lol , they want you to work for them and reward you with bancor token ? they want you to organize meetup and promote bancor  ?? lol , very happy i dumped this shit X2 in the early exchange opening...

It was never X2 either. Nice try editing your post after you got called out for the X10 claim.

never X2 ? lol maybe you cant read a graph. For the X10, yeah, shame on me, my phone keyboard stored my fav profit rate with majority of ICO/SCAMS

It was never X1 either. It always traded below it's ICO price, compared to ETH and $$, both.
349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] æternity blockchain ∞ GET AE TOKEN ∞ [PoS x PoW | Smart Contracts] on: September 10, 2017, 08:09:53 AM

WARNING   【AE's laugh!!!!,  AE is SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!】


After 4 months, it turned out to be ERC20's token, which also led to losses for Chinese investors, LOL,It takes only 4 minutes to release ERC20.


Let's see what the AE team did for the last four months:
1、ETH hacked
2、CTO Zack leaved team
3、distribution token repeatedly delayed
4、The Token delays of AE have led to a large number of Chinese being cheated


What a waste team!!!!!!!!!!!, what a useless project!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The delay in your distribution led to the loss of the Chinese people!!!!!!!!!!


Please research before posting

1. Eth smart contract was hacked, aot Aeternity. Many other project have losses too, due to this hack.
2. Zack was never CTO, he was a developer who left. Now they have 5 dev's.
3. As you already said it's ERC20 token, we all know that mainnet will be launched next year and it will have it's own token. So what is the point if it's delayed or not delayed.
4. Chinese got their AE tokens through other enterprise which is closed down. AE again has nothing to do with that.
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: So when DeepOnion started for public it was $4, every investor lost 75%. on: September 06, 2017, 12:46:50 PM
i buy it for 2$ and the price will almost 5$ I DONT SOLD ONION. Becouse i know price will go soon 20$.  Grin Grin

How do you know its going to 20$, care to share with us? What is so promising about this coin?
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] æternity blockchain ∞ GET AE TOKEN ∞ [PoS x PoW | Smart Contracts] on: September 06, 2017, 12:36:34 PM
Then it is well that I yesterday to buy still Token at liqui. The course has gone up well and will hopefully rise further. That would be awesome.Let's see how the course develops the next days

Solid development will bring real fun to this project at the moment price is not high like the potential of this project I also think this is really cheap. I will increase my tokens when I will have more funds because this will grow very healthy and price will go to the moon.

I think prices will go a lot lower actually. There's no reason for it to grow now at this point. Is there?

That's what they said when Eth was at 50$, and the rest is history. It will easily be above 1$ in few weeks.
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: This time next year Waves will be trading at $250 on: September 02, 2017, 05:54:55 PM
Ethereum took 3 years to reach that target. I think your prediction is based on that. $10 by year end looks a realistic target, giving it 1 billion $ market cap. Lets see where it goes from there. 100$ is reachable though.
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Binance - The Next Coin Listing - Cast Your Votes on: September 02, 2017, 05:03:29 PM
I also voted for Waves. But current winning coin is MTC. Anyone has any idea what that is, coinmarketcap doesn't have any info on this.
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: You win a 50k scratcher, how would you invest it in crypto? on: September 02, 2017, 04:39:58 PM
10k BTC
10k ETH
5k LTC
5k ARK
5k Waves
15k in promising icos like Kyber



You have your priorities right. I will also throw in 1-2k into lesser known projects with huge potential. It maybe either Wagerr or Tokes or BAY.
355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BANCOR (BNT) going HUUUUUUGE 100X on: September 02, 2017, 03:46:32 PM
I laughed a little. Check this link - https://icostats.com/vs-eth

It's the only coin that's in red in all three counts. Infact every major coin is doing better than eth per ROI except this. What is the point of holding this, if all it ever going to do is follow eth like a shadow.
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties on: September 02, 2017, 02:21:06 PM
Yup, as I was saying weeks, even months ago - these guys are amateurs and they proved it once again.
Good for me that I cashed out when the price was about 10 cents, got some decent profit. Might come back later if they show something good but for now they've been doing terrible.
Stox it is as it seems.

Yes alot of people saw this coming from a mile away but got yelled down in this forum, on reddit and slack.
Usually with sophisticated arguments like "hurr durr we gonna get rich and youre a loser".
I wonder where all those genius bagholders are now, they've really gotten awfully quiet hahaha.

FWIW I dumped this shitcoin at 12 cents and Im not looking back. I WILL come here to gloat and troll the bagholders though.



You said you dumped and got out a few other times also...yet here you are again lol.  And pretty much all of your old accusations have ended up turning out false before, why should now be any different?

This was a side bet, it had pretty much 0 impact on the actual wagerr network and progress is still being made on it.  And it turned out to be a good thing for the team, they're finally addressing some long-standing issues.  There's a big update coming soon and also it seems the team will most likely be growing considerably.  The main dev met with some industry experts yesterday and you can expect to see some much-needed changes and professionalism.

For those who think prediction markets are the answer instead, you're going to be in for some disappointment.  They've been tried in the past and they certainly can't be called a real sportsbook.  Wagerr is taking the difficult challenge to give us the real deal, the others are taking the easy way out on a simple platforms like prediction markets that are dirt-cheap and common.

Testnet hype gonna be building up soon...

oh look its the guy with zero reading comprehension again!
actually I hodled this shitcoin for months and only dumped it shortly after the fight
but yeah sure... its gonna moon any day now hahaha

oh wait turns out the dev himself wasnt even caught in a flood
it was his family
of course they still havent even sent out an email with an update
even though they announced 20 hours ago on reddit they would send an email

lmao
you guys are so fucking retarded
its unbelievable
"t-t-testnet any day now"
enjoy your bags you retards
you deserve to lose every cent you put into this shitcoin

btw Im already up 60% on the money I took out from wagerr
do you even opportunity cost you dipshits?
hahahahha

Please sell everything and come cry in 2 month little fag  Grin
I will reply to your comment when wagerr hit 1$, see you soon  Kiss

Same sentiments. 1,639,529 WGR has been burned. Few more of these betting events and the supply will go down further. It's not like ripple where 0.00000x is burned out of 100 billion supply. 1% of token burned matters, anyone can see writing on the wall, which way prices will be going.
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LOTTEREUM - we conduct the first lottery on tokens. 101 Lte - for free! on: September 02, 2017, 01:58:46 PM
Confirming my participation in the lottery. Grin
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Potential x50-x100 coins let's discuss which one we think on: August 30, 2017, 07:26:14 PM
Bitbay, definitely Bitbay. X50 is within reach by this year end. This coin will be top 20 very soon. For it's range of features please check official Bitbay thread.
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: If you had 1000$ to invest in Altcoins long term, which one would you choose? on: August 30, 2017, 07:24:19 PM
I will put my 1000$ into Bitbay, and wait for December when they release their pegging feature. It is currently trading at 2 cents, so you will get 50,000 BAY's from 1000$. This coin can easily reach between 0.5 - 1$.
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] BANER-140 followers to the LOTTERY of $1,500 on: August 30, 2017, 06:54:37 PM
Change in membership status - Full member now. Updated my signature and avatar accordingly. Please update spreadsheet. Thanks.
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