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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BLOCKCHAIN TECNO WILL SURVIVE, bitcoin not on: November 02, 2017, 10:43:45 AM
I don't think it's likely to be ruled illegal by all governments. Estonia and Catalonia are already looking into creating their own digital currency.

Oh my god  IMAGINE  IF  THE GOVERNAMENTS  REGULATE  IT (not  declaring it  illegal)

For god,    you guys  don't  know  the  rule of  risk/reward

Let's   suppose I have 10k to invest  and  I invest  them  in Bitcoin  hoping  for  a  x10  in the next 10  years

OK.

Let's immagine  it makes  a  x4  and  then  suddenly regulated  and the  price  came back to 300$  (IT CAN HAPPEN, IT'S ONLY  A BUBBLE, IT CAN HAPPEN)

I  would  have lose  10k   in a ''puff''


CAN YOU UNDERSTAND  THIS  OR  I  AM  TOO SMART  TO UNDERSTAND THIS  SIMPLE RISK/REWARD   RULE ?  ?


Ok.

Let's  make  another example now


Let's  suppose  I have  1k  and  I put  it all in some  proisuing  altcoin

Let's  suppose by the hype  or  thanks  to  the final product  I  can make  a  x10 in the  next year.  I will  have  10k

If not  I will lose  only  1 k


RISK/REWARD

DO YOU UNDERSTAND  THIS?  OR IS  IT TOO  DIFFICULT?


SO  IN BITCOIN I  WOULD  PUT  ONLY  300$ AS HEDGE.




342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BLOCKCHAIN TECNO WILL SURVIVE, bitcoin not on: November 02, 2017, 08:24:40 AM
@Lucacrebbe golden age, disagree, not yet, way too many people still don't know (and don't understand) what Bitcoin is...


Think about it:

For example I  don't  know  about   some aliens living   on  a  planet  x  in the universe.   And I  will never  know about them

They  exist,  I will  never  know them because  they are so  far  from me.

The same  thing we can say about  bitcoin.  The ''normal people''  want easy things, they  will never  start  messing around  with wallets and hashes.

They  will use Paypal and  banks  forever

So I  SCREAM   to  the world:  FOCUSE  your attention  on valuable  PROJECTS, BECAUSE  THE  BLOCKCHAIN TECNO is  VALUABLE,  AND SOME PROJECTS  can   have real world  USAGE FOR  SOME  COMPANIES.





343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Anybody all in in one altcoin? on: November 02, 2017, 07:52:34 AM
Why x10, why not x1000?  You just based on the yellow press forecasts. I'm sure that bitcoin will be most expensive crypto till the end of cryptocurrency age.

A x1000  from  bitcoin?

Are  you kidding me?  Do you believe in Unicorns  Sir.?

As  I have said,  bitcoin golden age is now.

enjoy  an eventually x4  and  then DUMP, and do not forget  that  if  you hold  too much in bitcoin (BIG BAG) it  will be  very  difficult to sell when the price  will dramatically  drop.

Why  the price  should  drop?  Becase bitcoin is  a bubble,  an useless  coin that  keeps  going on  only  because the  ''fans''  support it.  This  is not a  solid  base for  an investment.  







344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BLOCKCHAIN TECNO WILL SURVIVE, bitcoin not on: November 02, 2017, 07:49:32 AM
Well I hope you are wrong, but I can understand where you are coming from. Hopefully banks don't create their own cryptos one day, it would hurt Bitcoin in the long term.
In the end, it is the people who can make the difference. I personally trust Bitcoin and hope more and more do too.

Like you said, I don't think we should worry too much in the next 3 or 4 years. No one can make predictions after that. My personal opinion is that Bitcoin's golden age will be in 2020.


bitcoin golden age is now.

enjoy  an eventually x4  and  then DUMP, and do not forget  that  if  you hold  too much (BIG BAG) it's  difficult to sell when the price  will dramatically  drop.

345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / BLOCKCHAIN TECNO WILL SURVIVE, bitcoin not on: November 02, 2017, 05:58:43 AM
Guys   can I explain my considerations?

I see some of you   saying: ''invest  into bitcoin for the next  10  years, invest your  pension funds...''

This   for  me  is  ridicolous,  a pension fund all in bitcoin.

Let  me  clarify THIS:  THE COMPANIES   HAVE  ALREADY  KNOWN  that   the  blockchain  tecno is somenthing  REALLY  PROMISUING  and  good  for  their  profits  and they ARE  WORKING  TO CREATE  THEIR  OWN  BLOCKCHAINS (SIDE-CHAINS)

Because  they don't  want  to  depend  on the  Bitcoin blockchain that  is  full  of  bugs,  with scaling problems  and that  you must  wait    30 minuts  for  a block to be  verified.

So let  me  clarify this:  Bitcoin  is  a  simbolic  progress  of  internet, but  will die for  sure.   You  don't have to see  the price  now, it  can  go even  to  1 million,  but it's  extremly risky to invest in a such bubble.

Bitcoin  will  remain as  a ''simbolic progress  of internet''   and   will stabilize itself  at  the  price  of  1000$ in the next  years (then I predict it  will disappear)

Because   copanies are  working  on their  own side-chains.  IN the future  you won't need  bitcoin to  buy ALTS (look at  waves  dex)

So I  think, it's  wiser  to  stop  promoting a bubble. Please.


Mark this  post, the time  will get me right.  maybe the bubble  can  go even  to  50k in the next 3-4 years, then it  will die. And it  will crash so heavly  that  the last investitors    will  be  ruined  from bitcoin if  they will be  stupid enough to invest  in bitcoin at  30'000  or   things like that

The  future IS IN THE  PROJECTS  WITH THEIR  OWN SIDE-CHAINS  THAT  CAN WORK  ALONG SIDE  WITH BIG  COMPANIES AND DO NOT  RELATE TO  THE BITCOIN CORE blockchain   (Hello, stratis, hello waves, hello ethereum)





346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Anybody all in in one altcoin? on: November 02, 2017, 05:46:40 AM
Why it is too late? Not agree. It is never late to invest to bitcoin, actual price on the bottom in perspective of next 10 years.
Waves was very promised project, but now it is lack of development. Waves still not smart...



AND   WHO  ENSURE  YOU    THAT  BITCOIN  WILL BE STILL THERE  AFTER  10  YEARS??  O my  god  guys  you make  nervous,  YOU MUST THINK, NOT  JUST FOLLOW  THE  HYPE

 LET  MY CLARIFY THIS: BLOCKCHAIN  TECNO  WILL SURVIVE,  BITCOIN NOT.


347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Anybody all in in one altcoin? on: November 02, 2017, 05:38:19 AM
75% of my portfolio are Waves and thinking to add more.

I made a big mistake not keeping one single BTC and now it's too late.

Don't know if buy more Waves or some Monero.

Why it is too late? Not agree. It is never late to invest to bitcoin, actual price on the bottom in perspective of next 10 years.
Waves was very promised project, but now it is lack of development. Waves still not smart...




IT'S   too  late  because  you can't  pretend  a  x10  fro bitcoin  in these  next years, and  in the future  who knows, maybe it  goes  back again at 1000$
who knows...

Stop  being so blind  ''buy bitcoin,  buy  bitcoin ''  it's  ridicoulus this way  of  thinking (''buy  bitcoin, buy bitcoin'')

It  wiser to buy altcoins  right  now  that  are dirty cheap. How  much  do you have in IQ (just out of  curiosity)  ?  Let me  introduce myself:   I have  a  solid  140 IQ



348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: No supercomputers---Thank me later. on: November 01, 2017, 03:29:50 PM
I mean if there is hype, it's obviously more risky. However, it deosn't mean that you are going to be able to turn a profit on your investments. Decentralized storage is a great idea but probably not going to see any real life usages any time soon.

But again, if there is a new wave of hype then it could certainly see its price jump.

In the end, it's investment and speculation. But i do think that decentralized storage projects are going to be pumped soon. Haven't had any action for ages now.
Huge hype sometimes scare me a lot about a project cause those kind of projects may end up failing pretty faster than expected. However, hypes too can be good for profit anyway as you have said, it is an investment and we are obviously all out for the profit. One just needs to be very careful.

I totally agree with the decentralized storage projects and I am really looking forward to seeing some actions on them. By the way, is the OP trying to advertise WALTON CHAIN? Grin


Forget  about  WTC,  it  doesn't  need   me  to be great. (I  have  only a few  of  WTC)

I  give you only sectors  in which  focus  money,  and these are:  IOT, DECENTRALIZED  STORAGE,  ROYALITY  RIGHTS  managemant,  ANTI-COUNTERFEITING

349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: No supercomputers---Thank me later. on: November 01, 2017, 03:03:03 PM
Super computer is just a scam for dreams .
this dream was started with ltcgear who offers new asics for ltc mining and Scammed everyone. These are just ponzi schemes and we experience all of them before.



SONM  is  a  7 cent   right  now....      I  have  a  30 $   on SONM  just  to be sure   that the next  year I  won't  regret, but  basically I agree   with you...  supercoputers  are  just    hype to invoice people  to invest.

Maybe  SONM  could be different, but  personaly I  won't  put more than 300$  on it. 


350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: No supercomputers---Thank me later. on: November 01, 2017, 02:50:09 PM
So the whole point of this super long rambling FUD thread is that we need to buy into decentralized storage projects? Such as SIA? The same coin that has been dumping and dumping and dumping for the past 6 months. Pretty soon we are going to have to pay to own SIA -- it seems it's going to dump so far it will be worth negative money  Wink

agree 100%. indeed besides the unnecessary agitation of OP, i don't understand how an analysis that seems competent and insightful in its own way can result into the advice of buying notorious half-scams like SIA or STORJ...



I  don't   tell you  to buy  SIA   o  Storj.  I  just  say:  focus  your  money/researches  on decentralized  storage.  It  could be  storj sia,  substratum... any thing  that has  decentralized storage in its  project

To  the people  that  are focusing on ''Multimedia''  I would  like  to say   why... the  reason

ANother field  in  which   Blockchain will  be  necessary is   ROYALITY  RIGHTS    and  ANTI-COUNTERFEITING

With BLOCKCHAIN THE ROYALITY  RIGHTS  PROBLEMS  ARE SOLVED


ALSO    FOCUS  ON ALL THAT   PROJECTS  WHICH  AIMS  TO PROMOT  SPORT TALENTS    BECAUSE  THEY  WILL TAKE  A  LITTLE  bit  to  grown, but  when    they  will grown   can  do  better


Follow  my  adviceses, I don't  give you coins  to buy, I  give you the   fields in  which  you  should  concentrate




351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: No supercomputers---Thank me later. on: November 01, 2017, 12:01:25 PM
I agree with half of your opinion. But i still believe in project on fund managing like genesis vision, also atlant for real estate. Crypterium as debitcard service also i believe. But not at super computer project and video streaming and social media who said will compete with facebook.

consider the following; Facebook can do everything instagram and snapchat can do. Do these two other ones have no reason to exist anymore? No, they do. Because the market is massive. Consider another thing; Internet was the biggest bubble we've seen in centuries. Did it fade away after the bubble, or did it explode even more? I'm guessing since everyone and his dog uses the internet, it's the second one. Sonm, a supercomputer, can expand this further than you can imagine. They can do things no other project can do, not even ethereum. Fog computing is an upcoming rare gem every company in the world will want, yet Sonm is the only blockchain related company coming close. I'm not asking you to invest, because I don't care, I'm asking you not to participate in mindless fudding


I  am  undecided   about  bitcoin.

One  day  I would like to hold  another day  I would  like to spread all across some   projects .

I am  undecided about  fog  computer  because  of the upcoming  Q-BIT  SUPERCOMPUTER,  so  this  is  my fear

But I am  strongly sure that  the blockchain  tecno  will be the next  internet  (not the  supercomputer on blockchain)  because  of  decentralized  storage and  distribuited ledger.

I  don't need   to promote  anything...   the  Internet  of  things  and blockchain related  projects  will    be so huge  in the next 5-10  years  that  people  who invest  now in these  sort  of things  could  virtually  have a future  so sweet.

I mean...    imagine IOT sensor   on  a  tangle  type  of blockchain (NO  SCALING PROBLEM)...  if this  is  not  a  BOOM,  which  one  will be?

I am not so much into  plaforms  aiming to copete  with  MAINSTREAM  youtube/facebook  cause   people  can't  use cripto  now, and they  don't  even  know  what an exange is


Think about  before to  invest

352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Thank me later on: November 01, 2017, 11:43:13 AM
Sorry  maybe you don't  understand that bitcoin can die  from one day to oneather, but the  blockchain tecnology  has  attracted the main stream  investitors  and the   banks, because it  solves  a   big problem in automatization and  distribuited ledger


So  please,  don't  be  blind ''buy bitcoin, buy  bitcoin, buy bitcoin''..  it's  risky  because  when bitcoin will crash,  it  will dump so hard.

Some  altcoins   will remain  because  they have  a  real  world  purpose:  walton chain, IOT, Modum

Maybe  you  don't   know  about  these, you  only say ''buy  bitcoin ,  buy bitcoin,  buy blindly bitcoin''


Put  all your trust in bitcoin..  what  else can I say to  you,  my friend...
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Thank me later on: November 01, 2017, 10:44:33 AM
ETH  IS  WORKING   to  solve scaling problems

Lisk  you  can create  DAPPS  with java script,  every  java script programmer    would  need it. Come on   think  about it.

Bitcoin  is only simbolic.  I  would  never  put   1K  on bitcoin   cause from a  day or  onether  it could  drop  so  heavly , SO heavly

I  would  prefer  to spread  among intersting projects  because bitcoin  MAY DIE,  but 

BLOCKCHAIN WILL NOT  DIE .  

NEVER

CAN YOU  understand THIS?
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Bitcoins and cripto mainstream thanks to Qr scan code on: November 01, 2017, 09:08:11 AM
People  know about  bitcoin  but there are some problems that  could  potencially  KILL  BITCOIN (not blockchain).  

--- People  do  not  know   how to buy/store and  trade cripto  and  bitcoin  without  being ''nerd'' as  I am.

If  someone  can gently realize  an app  that  trought  smartphone and  scan code  can let to  buy  the  cripto  without too  much hassle  cripto  will  go very high.

It should be  be  somenthing like  a  game currency, to buy  with  smartphone  and credit card.

Also they   would  need  to send  and receive payment  trought  ''ALIAS'' , not  trough  complicated  nerdy  hashes .

Is this  possible?  Because  bitcoin  deserve to be mass adopted  in an  easy  way, not in this COMPLICATED  WAY (for normale people)

355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: No supercomputers---Thank me later. on: November 01, 2017, 09:02:57 AM
Quote
-------VIDEO   PLATFORM AIMING TO COMPETE  WITH  YOUTUBE, NETFLIX..   SHIT.....  DON'T  WAST  MONEY ON THESE
With the recent YouTube policy that is retarded and demonetizes a lot of normal stuff how is that a bad idea?

It's  a   bad idea  because   people don't  know  yet  how  to buy token  or  cripto  with their credit cards without too much   hassle

Wheb  will  be possible to buy cripto  and token with   QR scan code on smartphone  bitcoin  and  criptos  and  video-cripto platform could  also overtake youtube

We are  talking about a  decade (10  years)
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Thank me later on: November 01, 2017, 08:58:28 AM
Boscoin can grow as long as the corelas support it. Aragon is very hopeful. The Iconomy price is too low.

Why not  IOTA   that  is  in testbet  with Micosoft?   A  really potencial  game  changer
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Thank me later on: November 01, 2017, 03:37:02 AM
My  picks:


IOTA,  Augur,  SIacoin, storjcoin, maidesafecoin, substratum, shift,  stratis,  waves, Ethereum ( but there  is problem  scalability),  Walton chain, Modum, Aragon, Lisk.

Thank me later

Don't  wast money on bitcoin,  probably useless in the future.

Take a  look at  ripple  or  chain link  could cooperate  with  banks  making a  x10 (gamble here)







358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What do you think ? on: October 31, 2017, 04:11:27 PM
forget  about  ARK

359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What do you think ? on: October 31, 2017, 12:39:22 PM
I   would  say  20%  bitcoin   and the rest  among  

Waves (500$),

stratis (100$),  

SONM (1k)

IOTA (300$)

MODUM (300$)

Walton chain (300$)


Aragon coin (ANT) (100$)


Ethereum  (200$)

Siacoin (100$)

Substratum (300$)






360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: No supercomputers---Thank me later. on: October 31, 2017, 09:37:34 AM
for sure out of the 98% of altcoins that's gonna be dead in the long run there are still a 2% that will remain and will sure succeed,

And  you have to be smart picking that one  the  world  really need:  IOT, decentralized storage, smart contract platform and Bitcoin.

That's it.  

Life  it's  not  complicated, it's incredibile  simple.  

Go  with  IOTA, WTC, MODUM,  one between  SIA, maidsafecoin, substratum, shift  and   one platform   among  Stratis, Waves, Komodo

And  finally  a  30%   of  Bitcoin.   That's it.

You do Not  need  other  coins



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