This coin...no wait, company/brand is doing just fine thanks...and will continue to do so my friend. Regardless of your lame FUD or not....you need to think bigger.
TrueAnon you're as blind and clueless as to what's being done to you as the next Bitstake fan that can't think clearly through the obvious scam issues occurring with this project. Before just shutting off from the view I'm expressing here and declaring me "a fudder who just wants cheap coins" think about these issues: 1. There is NO valid point to XBS. Bitstake is supposedly a Nigerian remittance business that will allow people to remit funds to family and friends in Nigeria via Bitcoin. Supposedly they've created a business that will earn revenue from the 1% remittance fees involved in each transaction. But WHERE OH WHERE does XBS (the coin) fit into this model? Simply put, it doesn't. There is no dependence on XBS to be the conduit for these remittance transactions because the whole thing works via BTC. What then would create demand for XBS? Nothing. 2. The dev talks on and on about the "Bitstake business" and how much more important it is than the price of XBS yet there are no details of this 'business', no information about where it is, what its structure is (i.e. directors? VC funding? Nigerian business registration?), the number of employees, its current and forecast revenue. Nothing. Zip. 3. One of the key and fundamental features of the Bitstake 'platform' is the SMS wallet supposedly allowing Nigerians to send and receive money without an Internet connection using SMS on their mobile phones only. Yet the SMS gateway is in Canada! This means a Nigerian based in Nigeria wanting to use this feature has to send an international SMS! Now stop and think for a moment. How many Nigerians are likely to send international SMSes regularly? And what would the likely cost of sending an SMS to Canada be by comparison to one locally within Nigeria? If you were that Nigerian about to start using Bitstake because it's a Nigerian business supporting Nigerian people and you were told you had to send SMSes to Canada to use the SMS wallet what would you think? Is this even remotely real? 4. When the dev moved the Bitstake 'platform' "onto new hardware" a week or so ago he also moved it onto a new domain. Bitstake.info was then left with nothing on it (no message or auto-redirect) meaning all those "thousands of customers" we've been led to believe are already signed up to the platform would've gone to bitstake.info only to reach a "This web page not available - connection timed out" screen. Four days later, after me highlighting how completely and utterly ridiculous, unprofessional and so obviously scam-ridden such a thing was, bitstake.info was suddenly directed to the new bitstake.co domain so the site reappeared and it was made out like it was always working (but it wasn't because I'd checked numerous times across those four days....that's four days of "customers" thinking Bitstake.info was gone....hardly even remotely real is it?) 5. And the latest complete and utter BS the dev is lauding over you all: Bitstake exchange not working - Not true
Only a Nigerian IP can access the exchange, foreign users are blocked out due to their state laws. If you sell bitcoin to Naira, how are you planing to cash out to naira. Considering the latest Fincen stands on USA companies, I am sure most of you will consider that as a good move.
....how very convenient. We can't see the Bitstake Exchange where Nigerians are now supposedly buying and selling Bitcoin! Hilarious! So not even a screen shot! No...nothing....it's not for our eyes! (because, frankly, with no reference to it via Google and no indication what domain it's sitting on or how it interfaces with bitstake.co, IT CLEARLY DOESN'T EXIST!) Your words... company/brand is doing just fine thanks.
...have not been at all considered and thought through before you've uttered them. How do you know this is a "company". How do you know its "doing just fine"? You don't. You most likely have no information and surety of this. You're going off the dev's occasional postings that take this continual tone of "high moral ground" against the "fudders" but he offers nothing of substance to back up his claims. Honestly TrueAnon, you're just being worked and worked and worked over. There is no Bitstake 'business'. It's all just a never ending attempt to get the price back up a little more so the dev can exit from his XBS stash with far more BTC than would be afforded by pricing in the 17,500 sats region that XBS has crashed to because of all the red flags. By stringing you all along for a bit more, he's expecting he might get back to the +100,000 days again for the big exit. If this was even remotely a real project, all he'd have to do to increase the legitimacy tenfold is show us the 'business' (where it is, how it's functioning, what it's doing, how XBS is an integral part of the model) and BE REAL. But, unfortunately, I'm not expecting that any time soon as the whole thing just looks like one ridiculously 'scammy' set up designed to have people keep buying XBS and pushing the price up. There just doesn't appear to be anything more behind it than that. I'm sorry that so many have been hoodwinked so badly. Until the dev can rectify all of these so-obvious issues and make the thing far more transparent and open, it's just a disaster and will continue to cost people dearly. I had a decently long, somewhat drawn out reply half written for you...but honestly, what's the point?? It's obvious you've made up your mind and anything I say will just be shot down by yourself. I can't answer all those technical aspect of your comments so that's out. As for xbs itself, well everything in crypto is a risk and it's DYOR. I (and others) have taken the time to do so with xbs and found it legit/solid enough to make it a worthwhile investment. With some more time I'm sure you'll see some decent results if you care to keep an eye on it, instead of trying to "save" everyone. I won't bother stating the stuff like "you're doing fud to bring the price lower" since it's stupid. Sure it's going to have ups/downs but what coin doesn't in the alt scene. Every single coin is manipulated...xbs is probably no different. This dev/team work differently from others and you have to realize that (maybe it's a culture/English thing, I don't know). Even their marketing/etc you can tell is made for the masses which is probably not North American based. I really don't know why you have such an issue with it...even your final comment you HINT at the fact it still may not be a scam...so then??? Anyway, if you're looking for answers I'm afraid I'm not your guy (for now at least). Well thank you for at least responding decently and not doing the "you're just fudding" thing (which is such a lame response when someone's attempting to highlight serious issues). I can't answer all those technical aspect of your comments so that's out
Unfortunately this is (partly) why this has been going on for as long as it has. There is a serious lack of technical knowledge within the fan base on the XBS thread. People are just not aware of just how completely misleading the whole thing is. There are such gaping holes in the story on so many levels, and technically, you could drive trucks through why so much of it doesn't stack up/is not legitimate. Yes, I agree every single coin is manipulated; even the really good ones. But the manipulation going on here with XBS is on another level altogether and this dev has managed to pull together many fans who've bought right in to 'the story' and aren't using any sort of basic critical thinking to work out what's missing from the whole affair. I didn't say you are fudding I was asking what is your big problem with this coin you post about it everyday? Personally I think it has some really great technology and it has been marketed harder than any other coin I have ever seen in the mainstream i.e. outside world. You are welcome to have your opinion, I don't have a personal problem with you. However I wonder why you pursue it with such venom? ItsAj you've responded to the posts I was interacting with TrueAnon on. Your response to me previously was Everyday you talk badly about XBS every single day, you have no proof to back anything up it is pure speculation on your part. Personally I think you are afraid of the coins success because it's getting big media attention unlike any other coin Wink
Can I ask do you own any XBS?
...and you'll have to scroll up to see my response to that. I don't think I'm "pursue(ing) with such Venom" but I am highlighting what I can see is an obvious façade designed to trap people. The history of where this project has likely come from, the people involved and the damage of their past projects means this is yet another one for the "oh no, looks like dev has dumped his stash and left the building!" scrap heap. I enjoy being involved with crypto but I won't stand by and witness this stuff happening in a specific project (when I become aware of it) without highlighting the likelihood of it happening again, as good people come into crypto all excited about investing and then get burned beyond recognition. It's ruining it for everyone and Bitstake looks to be just more of this same crap. |
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This coin...no wait, company/brand is doing just fine thanks...and will continue to do so my friend. Regardless of your lame FUD or not....you need to think bigger.
TrueAnon you're as blind and clueless as to what's being done to you as the next Bitstake fan that can't think clearly through the obvious scam issues occurring with this project. Before just shutting off from the view I'm expressing here and declaring me "a fudder who just wants cheap coins" think about these issues: 1. There is NO valid point to XBS. Bitstake is supposedly a Nigerian remittance business that will allow people to remit funds to family and friends in Nigeria via Bitcoin. Supposedly they've created a business that will earn revenue from the 1% remittance fees involved in each transaction. But WHERE OH WHERE does XBS (the coin) fit into this model? Simply put, it doesn't. There is no dependence on XBS to be the conduit for these remittance transactions because the whole thing works via BTC. What then would create demand for XBS? Nothing. 2. The dev talks on and on about the "Bitstake business" and how much more important it is than the price of XBS yet there are no details of this 'business', no information about where it is, what its structure is (i.e. directors? VC funding? Nigerian business registration?), the number of employees, its current and forecast revenue. Nothing. Zip. 3. One of the key and fundamental features of the Bitstake 'platform' is the SMS wallet supposedly allowing Nigerians to send and receive money without an Internet connection using SMS on their mobile phones only. Yet the SMS gateway is in Canada! This means a Nigerian based in Nigeria wanting to use this feature has to send an international SMS! Now stop and think for a moment. How many Nigerians are likely to send international SMSes regularly? And what would the likely cost of sending an SMS to Canada be by comparison to one locally within Nigeria? If you were that Nigerian about to start using Bitstake because it's a Nigerian business supporting Nigerian people and you were told you had to send SMSes to Canada to use the SMS wallet what would you think? Is this even remotely real? 4. When the dev moved the Bitstake 'platform' "onto new hardware" a week or so ago he also moved it onto a new domain. Bitstake.info was then left with nothing on it (no message or auto-redirect) meaning all those "thousands of customers" we've been led to believe are already signed up to the platform would've gone to bitstake.info only to reach a "This web page not available - connection timed out" screen. Four days later, after me highlighting how completely and utterly ridiculous, unprofessional and so obviously scam-ridden such a thing was, bitstake.info was suddenly directed to the new bitstake.co domain so the site reappeared and it was made out like it was always working (but it wasn't because I'd checked numerous times across those four days....that's four days of "customers" thinking Bitstake.info was gone....hardly even remotely real is it?) 5. And the latest complete and utter BS the dev is lauding over you all: Bitstake exchange not working - Not true
Only a Nigerian IP can access the exchange, foreign users are blocked out due to their state laws. If you sell bitcoin to Naira, how are you planing to cash out to naira. Considering the latest Fincen stands on USA companies, I am sure most of you will consider that as a good move.
....how very convenient. We can't see the Bitstake Exchange where Nigerians are now supposedly buying and selling Bitcoin! Hilarious! So not even a screen shot! No...nothing....it's not for our eyes! (because, frankly, with no reference to it via Google and no indication what domain it's sitting on or how it interfaces with bitstake.co, IT CLEARLY DOESN'T EXIST!) Your words... company/brand is doing just fine thanks.
...have not been at all considered and thought through before you've uttered them. How do you know this is a "company". How do you know its "doing just fine"? You don't. You most likely have no information and surety of this. You're going off the dev's occasional postings that take this continual tone of "high moral ground" against the "fudders" but he offers nothing of substance to back up his claims. Honestly TrueAnon, you're just being worked and worked and worked over. There is no Bitstake 'business'. It's all just a never ending attempt to get the price back up a little more so the dev can exit from his XBS stash with far more BTC than would be afforded by pricing in the 17,500 sats region that XBS has crashed to because of all the red flags. By stringing you all along for a bit more, he's expecting he might get back to the +100,000 days again for the big exit. If this was even remotely a real project, all he'd have to do to increase the legitimacy tenfold is show us the 'business' (where it is, how it's functioning, what it's doing, how XBS is an integral part of the model) and BE REAL. But, unfortunately, I'm not expecting that any time soon as the whole thing just looks like one ridiculously 'scammy' set up designed to have people keep buying XBS and pushing the price up. There just doesn't appear to be anything more behind it than that. I'm sorry that so many have been hoodwinked so badly. Until the dev can rectify all of these so-obvious issues and make the thing far more transparent and open, it's just a disaster and will continue to cost people dearly. I had a decently long, somewhat drawn out reply half written for you...but honestly, what's the point?? It's obvious you've made up your mind and anything I say will just be shot down by yourself. I can't answer all those technical aspect of your comments so that's out. As for xbs itself, well everything in crypto is a risk and it's DYOR. I (and others) have taken the time to do so with xbs and found it legit/solid enough to make it a worthwhile investment. With some more time I'm sure you'll see some decent results if you care to keep an eye on it, instead of trying to "save" everyone. I won't bother stating the stuff like "you're doing fud to bring the price lower" since it's stupid. Sure it's going to have ups/downs but what coin doesn't in the alt scene. Every single coin is manipulated...xbs is probably no different. This dev/team work differently from others and you have to realize that (maybe it's a culture/English thing, I don't know). Even their marketing/etc you can tell is made for the masses which is probably not North American based. I really don't know why you have such an issue with it...even your final comment you HINT at the fact it still may not be a scam...so then??? Anyway, if you're looking for answers I'm afraid I'm not your guy (for now at least). Well thank you for at least responding decently and not doing the "you're just fudding" thing (which is such a lame response when someone's attempting to highlight serious issues). I can't answer all those technical aspect of your comments so that's out
Unfortunately this is (partly) why this has been going on for as long as it has. There is a serious lack of technical knowledge within the fan base on the XBS thread. People are just not aware of just how completely misleading the whole thing is. There are such gaping holes in the story on so many levels, and technically, you could drive trucks through why so much of it doesn't stack up/is not legitimate. Yes, I agree every single coin is manipulated; even the really good ones. But the manipulation going on here with XBS is on another level altogether and this dev has managed to pull together many fans who've bought right in to 'the story' and aren't using any sort of basic critical thinking to work out what's missing from the whole affair. |
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This coin...no wait, company/brand is doing just fine thanks...and will continue to do so my friend. Regardless of your lame FUD or not....you need to think bigger.
TrueAnon you're as blind and clueless as to what's being done to you as the next Bitstake fan that can't think clearly through the obvious scam issues occurring with this project. Before just shutting off from the view I'm expressing here and declaring me "a fudder who just wants cheap coins" think about these issues: 1. There is NO valid point to XBS. Bitstake is supposedly a Nigerian remittance business that will allow people to remit funds to family and friends in Nigeria via Bitcoin. Supposedly they've created a business that will earn revenue from the 1% remittance fees involved in each transaction. But WHERE OH WHERE does XBS (the coin) fit into this model? Simply put, it doesn't. There is no dependence on XBS to be the conduit for these remittance transactions because the whole thing works via BTC. What then would create demand for XBS? Nothing. 2. The dev talks on and on about the "Bitstake business" and how much more important it is than the price of XBS yet there are no details of this 'business', no information about where it is, what its structure is (i.e. directors? VC funding? Nigerian business registration?), the number of employees, its current and forecast revenue. Nothing. Zip. 3. One of the key and fundamental features of the Bitstake 'platform' is the SMS wallet supposedly allowing Nigerians to send and receive money without an Internet connection using SMS on their mobile phones only. Yet the SMS gateway is in Canada! This means a Nigerian based in Nigeria wanting to use this feature has to send an international SMS! Now stop and think for a moment. How many Nigerians are likely to send international SMSes regularly? And what would the likely cost of sending an SMS to Canada be by comparison to one locally within Nigeria? If you were that Nigerian about to start using Bitstake because it's a Nigerian business supporting Nigerian people and you were told you had to send SMSes to Canada to use the SMS wallet what would you think? Is this even remotely real? 4. When the dev moved the Bitstake 'platform' "onto new hardware" a week or so ago he also moved it onto a new domain. Bitstake.info was then left with nothing on it (no message or auto-redirect) meaning all those "thousands of customers" we've been led to believe are already signed up to the platform would've gone to bitstake.info only to reach a "This web page not available - connection timed out" screen. Four days later, after me highlighting how completely and utterly ridiculous, unprofessional and so obviously scam-ridden such a thing was, bitstake.info was suddenly directed to the new bitstake.co domain so the site reappeared and it was made out like it was always working (but it wasn't because I'd checked numerous times across those four days....that's four days of "customers" thinking Bitstake.info was gone....hardly even remotely real is it?) 5. And the latest complete and utter BS the dev is lauding over you all: Bitstake exchange not working - Not true
Only a Nigerian IP can access the exchange, foreign users are blocked out due to their state laws. If you sell bitcoin to Naira, how are you planing to cash out to naira. Considering the latest Fincen stands on USA companies, I am sure most of you will consider that as a good move.
....how very convenient. We can't see the Bitstake Exchange where Nigerians are now supposedly buying and selling Bitcoin! Hilarious! So not even a screen shot! No...nothing....it's not for our eyes! (because, frankly, with no reference to it via Google and no indication what domain it's sitting on or how it interfaces with bitstake.co, IT CLEARLY DOESN'T EXIST!) Your words... company/brand is doing just fine thanks.
...have not been at all considered and thought through before you've uttered them. How do you know this is a "company". How do you know its "doing just fine"? You don't. You most likely have no information and surety of this. You're going off the dev's occasional postings that take this continual tone of "high moral ground" against the "fudders" but he offers nothing of substance to back up his claims. Honestly TrueAnon, you're just being worked and worked and worked over. There is no Bitstake 'business'. It's all just a never ending attempt to get the price back up a little more so the dev can exit from his XBS stash with far more BTC than would be afforded by pricing in the 17,500 sats region that XBS has crashed to because of all the red flags. By stringing you all along for a bit more, he's expecting he might get back to the +100,000 days again for the big exit. If this was even remotely a real project, all he'd have to do to increase the legitimacy tenfold is show us the 'business' (where it is, how it's functioning, what it's doing, how XBS is an integral part of the model) and BE REAL. But, unfortunately, I'm not expecting that any time soon as the whole thing just looks like one ridiculously 'scammy' set up designed to have people keep buying XBS and pushing the price up. There just doesn't appear to be anything more behind it than that. I'm sorry that so many have been hoodwinked so badly. Until the dev can rectify all of these so-obvious issues and make the thing far more transparent and open, it's just a disaster and will continue to cost people dearly. Everyday you talk badly about XBS every single day, you have no proof to back anything up it is pure speculation on your part. Personally I think you are afraid of the coins success because it's getting big media attention unlike any other coin  Can I ask do you own any XBS? Instead of constantly saying to people intelligently questioning the validity of this project that their motives are for some other reason (like they're "afraid of the coins success" as you've just suggested), why don't you actually address the fundamentally serious issues I've pointed out? I mean they're as critical and serious as you could possibly get! Instead of saying "I have no proof", respond to the points I've raised! Points 1 to 5 above are about as important to whether an investment like this is legitimate as any points could be. Without considering what I've written and just responding with the classic "you're just fudding" like you have , you're just blindly ignoring stuff that's likely to cost you, and many others, dearly. No, I absolutely don't own any XBS and won't ever again. I did buy into it some weeks back briefly when it was way higher and, very fortunately for me, got out of it again before it crashed without any loss or gain. I bet there are hundreds of people that weren't as fortunate though and that's the travesty of this crap and part of why alts are now so decimated. |
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This coin...no wait, company/brand is doing just fine thanks...and will continue to do so my friend. Regardless of your lame FUD or not....you need to think bigger.
TrueAnon you're as blind and clueless as to what's being done to you as the next Bitstake fan that can't think clearly through the obvious scam issues occurring with this project. Before just shutting off from the view I'm expressing here and declaring me "a fudder who just wants cheap coins" think about these issues: 1. There is NO valid point to XBS. Bitstake is supposedly a Nigerian remittance business that will allow people to remit funds to family and friends in Nigeria via Bitcoin. Supposedly they've created a business that will earn revenue from the 1% remittance fees involved in each transaction. But WHERE OH WHERE does XBS (the coin) fit into this model? Simply put, it doesn't. There is no dependence on XBS to be the conduit for these remittance transactions because the whole thing works via BTC. What then would create demand for XBS? Nothing. 2. The dev talks on and on about the "Bitstake business" and how much more important it is than the price of XBS yet there are no details of this 'business', no information about where it is, what its structure is (i.e. directors? VC funding? Nigerian business registration?), the number of employees, its current and forecast revenue. Nothing. Zip. 3. One of the key and fundamental features of the Bitstake 'platform' is the SMS wallet supposedly allowing Nigerians to send and receive money without an Internet connection using SMS on their mobile phones only. Yet the SMS gateway is in Canada! This means a Nigerian based in Nigeria wanting to use this feature has to send an international SMS! Now stop and think for a moment. How many Nigerians are likely to send international SMSes regularly? And what would the likely cost of sending an SMS to Canada be by comparison to one locally within Nigeria? If you were that Nigerian about to start using Bitstake because it's a Nigerian business supporting Nigerian people and you were told you had to send SMSes to Canada to use the SMS wallet what would you think? Is this even remotely real? 4. When the dev moved the Bitstake 'platform' "onto new hardware" a week or so ago he also moved it onto a new domain. Bitstake.info was then left with nothing on it (no message or auto-redirect) meaning all those "thousands of customers" we've been led to believe are already signed up to the platform would've gone to bitstake.info only to reach a "This web page not available - connection timed out" screen. Four days later, after me highlighting how completely and utterly ridiculous, unprofessional and so obviously scam-ridden such a thing was, bitstake.info was suddenly directed to the new bitstake.co domain so the site reappeared and it was made out like it was always working (but it wasn't because I'd checked numerous times across those four days....that's four days of "customers" thinking Bitstake.info was gone....hardly even remotely real is it?) 5. And the latest complete and utter BS the dev is lauding over you all: Bitstake exchange not working - Not true
Only a Nigerian IP can access the exchange, foreign users are blocked out due to their state laws. If you sell bitcoin to Naira, how are you planing to cash out to naira. Considering the latest Fincen stands on USA companies, I am sure most of you will consider that as a good move.
....how very convenient. We can't see the Bitstake Exchange where Nigerians are now supposedly buying and selling Bitcoin! Hilarious! So not even a screen shot! No...nothing....it's not for our eyes! (because, frankly, with no reference to it via Google and no indication what domain it's sitting on or how it interfaces with bitstake.co, IT CLEARLY DOESN'T EXIST!) Your words... company/brand is doing just fine thanks.
...have not been at all considered and thought through before you've uttered them. How do you know this is a "company". How do you know its "doing just fine"? You don't. You most likely have no information and surety of this. You're going off the dev's occasional postings that take this continual tone of "high moral ground" against the "fudders" but he offers nothing of substance to back up his claims. Honestly TrueAnon, you're just being worked and worked and worked over. There is no Bitstake 'business'. It's all just a never ending attempt to get the price back up a little more so the dev can exit from his XBS stash with far more BTC than would be afforded by pricing in the 17,500 sats region that XBS has crashed to because of all the red flags. By stringing you all along for a bit more, he's expecting he might get back to the +100,000 days again for the big exit. If this was even remotely a real project, all he'd have to do to increase the legitimacy tenfold is show us the 'business' (where it is, how it's functioning, what it's doing, how XBS is an integral part of the model) and BE REAL. But, unfortunately, I'm not expecting that any time soon as the whole thing just looks like one ridiculously 'scammy' set up designed to have people keep buying XBS and pushing the price up. There just doesn't appear to be anything more behind it than that. I'm sorry that so many have been hoodwinked so badly. Until the dev can rectify all of these so-obvious issues and make the thing far more transparent and open, it's just a disaster and will continue to cost people dearly. |
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Guys I have been having the most terrible problems over the past 48 hours with the wallet not syncing and it continually losing connections. I've restarted it multiple times, deleted everything bar wallet.dat and bitcointx.conf and restarted, left it sitting there struggling to sync in the belief that it might catch up of its own accord and even shut it down for a while.
It's been truly abysmal. It will initially connect with one or two nodes, then it might get to as many as 8 or 9 within say 3 minutes but then within 10 minutes it's lost most of those and hangs on to maybe one connection for say another 5 minutes then goes completely offline. It hasn't been able to stake pretty much at all during that time because it's not synced.
I know the wallet's being worked on so I wasn't going to worry but it's so frustrating....until just now.
I'd previously had a bitcointx.conf file that I added nodes into from someone's post within the thread, but then I realised that about 48 hours ago I'd modified it by copying in the nodes listed in the op as follows:
addnode=73.52.197.36:28184
addnode=71.56.38.220:59906
addnode=104.254.88.242:56286
addnode=77.236.185.9:53672
addnode=77.225.131.51:61017
addnode=130.193.220.83:47960
addnode=94.181.24.61:28184
What's different to what I previously had is that there are port numbers on each address. So I removed them. And guess what? It's working like a charm now. I have 21 active connections and I'm staking again!
I now just have this in my bitcointx.conf:
addnode=73.52.197.36
addnode=71.56.38.220
addnode=104.254.88.242
addnode=77.236.185.9
addnode=77.225.131.51
addnode=130.193.220.83
addnode=94.181.24.61
The port numbers appear to be causing my wallet to not work properly. I don't know the reason for this (perhaps they're wrong?) all I know is it's working fine now.
I'll leave it up to you AltTrader and BTX dev to work out if my removing of the port numbers from the addresses in the .conf file is what's rectified my issue. If anyone else if having similar difficulties (and I suspect there'll be many) perhaps try this too.
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wow nice news  Thank's for your update dev  Yesterday i sell my XBS now i will rebuy again What because the dev has just launched a forum that (as at 03:19utc) DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! You can't register on it, none of the links at the top do anything and there's no content? So you've bought back in because of this. You're an idiot! It's just more of the same lame façade nothingness that has characterised this project from the beginning. Complete and utter BS!!  |
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Was just about to post this response to yet another Bitstake thread person trying to uphold this scam when the thread was locked I think you're all complete and utter fools So the dev has not only moved to "new hardware", which in the world of cloud computing and 'always-on' websites that are mandatory in anything finservices related, is a complete misnomer, he's also changed the domain! ARE YOU KIDDING DEV!! WTF!! So I just checked, there's been no email to the registered email address I've used on Bitstake.info to advise the move to a new domain!! This is what users see when they try to go and use the Bitstake 'platform'!!  So the supposed "thousands" of users that have signed up (according to DrMike) are going to be heading to bitstake.info and this is what they'll be presented with!! I SIMPLY CANNOT BELIEVE THE GULLIBILITY AND STUPIDITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY UNACCEPTABLE THIS IS!! If this was a real project there's just NO WAY the main platform's site would be moved onto a new domain, no way! And if it did have to be moved onto a new domain (which for any business is like a lobotomy) AT THE VERY MINIMUM there'd be lots of pre-warning, emails AND a redirect at the old domain for 30 days or so. The reason the dev hasn't done this is because this 'platform' is for you guys and you guys only. That's all. There ARE NO customers, There is NO REAL PLAN, it's all about keeping you engaged to get the price up. What a scam! Shame on you Carlo or whoever you are! You waste your breath on a "scam" over and over again? Why? You expect people to believe you are some altruistic individual trying to warn others? If this is a scam then gtfo and stop wasting your time. You saying websites don't move to new domains is really grasping at straws and doesn't make any sense, btw. Check it out, dumbass: https://bitstake.co/Man-oh-man you're a fool You want to talk "dumbass". Let's just review what's at bitstake.co (previously bistake.info) shall we? The "Lending" platform  Just a facade. Nothing's been updated on here for well over a month. The "Trading" platform  It appears for 3 seconds then disappears. It's not real. The "Multi-Stake" platform  Bitstake and blackcoin (hardly "multi" is it?) The Ripple Gateway  Obviously has been added to try and demonstrate some credibility and make out it's a "banking" website. Almost laughable. And the Send Coins page.  Looks like it's still 1% to withdraw your coins; absurd and ridiculous. And this is the clincher. The SMS page  Anyone care to guess which major continent has been left off the gateway drop down box? I'll give you a hint. It's the continent this project is all about, yet this SMS gateway has been set-up in Canada. Can anyone see how the costs of SMSing to Nigeria through an International service based in Canada might be a slight issue? Why wouldn't a Nigerian gateway be set-up so SMSes are being delivered locally? And it just goes on and on. This 'platform' is nothing but a façade to keep you all excited and on the hook. To each and everyone of you criticising me for pointing out just how lame and pathetic this is, you're all just perpetuating the scam so other unsuspecting people looking to invest in crypto will be caught in the web of this BS. Shame on all of you involved in such deception. The dev changing the domain unannounced; that's just the last straw. What a complete and utter piece of BS that's designed for no othe reason than to try and get a Crave-like pump going so the dev and other large holders can make a massive windfall. That's all this is and it's crap like this (and people on here pedalling crap like this) that's so damaging to crypto. |
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I get this from a daemon updated an synced for a couple of hours:
NAY - 1
YEA - 47
ABSTAIN - 2452
I'm on v23 but it's a normal daemon. Does it need to be a masternode (hot/cold) wallet to get the correct results? I was getting weird results on one of my daemons, then I restarted it and get: ./dashd masternode list votes YEA | wc -l 664 ./dashd masternode list votes NAY | wc -l 16 ./dashd masternode list votes ABS | wc -l 1834 Maybe there's a bug? Try restarting your client and see if it shows the correct votes PS. Votes don't sync when you open your client. So to watch the progress of the vote you must have had a client open before the vote started (any v11.2 would work), then update to v11.2.23 to see the correct count. Guys I'm a bit worried about all these varying results we're seeing posted here. It currently has all the accuracy of a vote managed by a random number generator! Forgetting all those fancy ./dashd commands for a moment, if I simply do a "masternode list votes" in my client (which has been upgraded to .23) and copy/paste the results into a spreadsheet, using the "Find All" function in Excel's "Find and Replace" I get the following: YEA = 240 NAY = 14 ABSTAIN = 2289 Which totals to 2543 Which is pretty close to the 2546 masternodes currently showing on dashninja.pl Soooo....someone needs to do a check whether the 680+ YEA's being noted in other postings is even remotely correct or there's a bug in either that calculation or the results I'm getting from a straight "masternode list votes" command inside the console of the .23 client. Evan explain a bit earlier about this. Did your daemon was always running (without stop) since the beginning of the vote? Yes, I upgraded to .23 within about 10 minutes of Evan posting the vote announcement and it's been running ever since. |
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I get this from a daemon updated an synced for a couple of hours:
NAY - 1
YEA - 47
ABSTAIN - 2452
I'm on v23 but it's a normal daemon. Does it need to be a masternode (hot/cold) wallet to get the correct results? I was getting weird results on one of my daemons, then I restarted it and get: ./dashd masternode list votes YEA | wc -l 664 ./dashd masternode list votes NAY | wc -l 16 ./dashd masternode list votes ABS | wc -l 1834 Maybe there's a bug? Try restarting your client and see if it shows the correct votes PS. Votes don't sync when you open your client. So to watch the progress of the vote you must have had a client open before the vote started (any v11.2 would work), then update to v11.2.23 to see the correct count. Guys I'm a bit worried about all these varying results we're seeing posted here. It currently has all the accuracy of a vote managed by a random number generator! Forgetting all those fancy ./dashd commands for a moment, if I simply do a "masternode list votes" in my client (which has been upgraded to .23) and copy/paste the results into a spreadsheet, using the "Find All" function in Excel's "Find and Replace" I get the following: YEA = 240 NAY = 14 ABSTAIN = 2289 Which totals to 2543 Which is pretty close to the 2546 masternodes currently showing on dashninja.pl Soooo....someone needs to do a check whether the 680+ YEA's being noted in other postings is even remotely correct or there's a bug in either that calculation or the results I'm getting from a straight "masternode list votes" command inside the console of the .23 client. |
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Hi. I would like to say that all yesterday action was only for buying cheaper. I sold too much too cheap and I had to rebuy before next update. Now I bought enough so I can make this situation clear.
of course I dont know Dev,i dont know what is his name.
Sorry about that but it is a bisness,and cypher has an amazing opportunity to be one of the most innovative crypto. I couldnt loose it.
Well, you just did not know how to succeed in your fraud that you have no other choice but to change hats. Who are you trying to convince? FYI, no one believed a word you wrote here  . Situation was already clear!! Just recognize you're limited as a fraudster . Actually, you're terribly limited as a human being. Do you really think, in your wildest (yet lame beyond the comprehension of normal people) dreams that attempting to defame and assassinate the character of the dev here is even remotely a way to get ahead? Have you not heard of karma? She's the one that will rearrange your innards at some point to teach you a most valuable lesson. You pathetic little person that wastes other people's time and tries to take from them. It's not "bisness", it's fraud. Now why don't you do crypto a favour and go stick your head up a dear bear's bum then inhale deeply. |
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Funny how this guy is starting a FUD attack on TRON at the same time a 60k sell wall is in the books, and it looks like theres a bot dumping to itself. I'm disappointed that CoinTelegraph and reddit's r/Bitcoin "favorited" the post by the scammer, who falsely claimed other coins had "hidden premine" and more nonsense. https://twitter.com/William42111948On a happier note, so far the Director sign up form has 39 people! Great to see the support and I'm finishing up on getting the forums set up properly. Once we're all organized we'll have our first monthly formal Director's meeting where minutes will be recorded for the Corporation and shared with the community. Just looked at his tweet history. He's also forecasting Vericoin will overtake Dash. Clearly not someone wroth listening to (but you can know you're making an impact CW when dirt bags like that come out.....you have them concerned) |
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We should be able to release updated wallet with new logo soon.
Then Masternodes should follow.
Right now, Ahmed is working on a new roadmap.
[Simpsons - Mr Burns] Eggscellent! [/Simpsons - Mr Burns] |
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I am back Did you go away? I didn't notice. |
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Have a withdrawal of 49 DASH that I never made, happen on my masternodes wallet. The amounts look like MN payments... this has happened twice now...another wallet had 66 DASH withdrawn?
Did you or someone else set-up the masternodes? Is someone managing the nodes for you? Yes...splawik, but he's sleeping I'm sure. He's been awesome with helping me but I'm trying to also help myself and learn how this all works. Hm, he will find what happen himself or with help I'm sure. And I 'd like to know. I'm wondering if its because I have the wallet addresses mirrored from a master wallet to the 2 new wallets i created that its showing this. Like the coins are being pulled back to the master wallet....I know I'm not articulating this properly...but I hope it makes sense. There is a common misunderstanding about how wallet works and I'd like to make it clear once again: there are no coins in a wallet actually, only private keys. All your coins are always on blockchain and wallet just gives you access to them by "unlocking" them in blockchain with your private keys allowing you to move coins to another address (i.e. to be secured by another private keys). So when you have "mirrored addresses" you actually have private keys (i.e. access to your coins on blockchain) in both wallets and if you move coins in one wallet you actually move them on blockchain. And if you sent some from that second wallet to another address you might used some inputs from the address that 10MN-wallet knows about. Let me guess... Did you mix non-1K funds in your second wallet?  NO! I'm not moron. These three wallets are only used for MN's! I do No NOT do transactions from these wallets. The setup is 1 main wallet on one machine, then w2 priv wallets with 10 MN's in each of the second priv wallets on 2 other machines. I these are all in separate machines, 3 computers. The main is not connected to the Internet. I have a 4th separate computer that has tx usable dash for mixing etc. And a 5th android device wallet as well exchange wallets. This whole ecosystem, IE All Crypto Currency, is not easy to understand or use. My back ground, for example, before the winery, I owned an IT company implementing network solutions with Novel and Windows NT, early 90's. Building systems for school boards and medical offices etc... When u had to set up IRQ and DMA settings on network cards on token ring and the cluster *#+a that was hardware back in the day. I Was one of the first companies to roll out digital xray systems for dental offices etcetera... So I know my way around computers and what I'm saying as I've said many times before this stuff it's NOT intuitive. Even Using wallets and it's features is NOT easy for everyday Joe. There seems to be a prevailing attitude among the crypto community, all crypto coins techies, suffer a lack of empathy for the average Joe. I couldn't agree more Bigrcanada! The complexities of how the wallet's handle change addresses, how many addresses are in their internal pool they generate and the specific circumstances of when a wallet generates a new address in addition to those in the pool that may not end up in your wallet.dat backup is way way too complicated! Until we work out ways to negate all of this silly technobabble talk around this stuff, crypto will just be a hobby realm for propeller heads as it's still just way too easy for people to lose their coins. Look at what happened with Camosoul all those months back when he went into complete meltdown on RC4's release and almost lost 5K of DRK (or thereabouts, can't remember the specifics) as his main wallet.dat and then backup wallet.dats became corrupted. Honestly, guys this (what Bigrcanada's just experienced) and the difficulties of converting fiat to crypto and back again I see as the two biggest stumbling blocks to adoption and the key areas that need to be addressed. |
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No, works fine, block 4095 now.
Well that's just great. Any suggestions? My wallet got stuck like that. It wasn't 14 hours behind, but probably about 2 hours and a few hundred blocks. I considered deleting everything except wallet.dat in the \AppData\Roaming\bitcointx directory but instead just shut the wallet down and restarted it. It took another 10 minutes or so but then it suddenly caught up. Not sure if my shutting it down effected this catch-up or whether a glitch caused it and it would have caught up of its own accord without the shutdown. Anyhow, perhaps try this if you haven't already. |
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With regards to this post from a few pages back: There are no guarantees in crypto. Almost anything one can involve oneself in has the potential to be a scam from the beginning or morph into a scam half way through when the devs or large bag holders give up on their legitimate plans and start choosing a course of manipulation to attempt to get the price up so they can dump and run. Virtually every alt-coin has the potential for this, including this one. And virtually every poster on these threads has some sort of agenda too; either to see the price go up dramatically so they can exit at the top or crash down so they can buy at super cheap prices and ride it up again. Finding balance in the posts one reads can be difficult or virtually impossible on some threads. I've seen the worst of the worst in human nature on display in these forums. Some of the characters that work these communities over with their P&D tactics are vile in the extreme and pretty sophisticated with their tactics. So in saying all that, I can't really be sure about the dev(s) here and what their true intentions are but all indications are that they are genuine and do have something of substance here they're attempting to build. The interactions of Cypher7A69 with this community are very positive, respectful and carry a level of intent that suggests genuineness and integrity. But one thing I'm pretty good at recognising is fraud, especially when it's particularly lame and flawed, and that's what our friend grandom303 has attempted to pull on this community. A quick perusal of Cypher7A69's previous posting history and you can see he (or she?), while not 100% perfect, compared to most people on forums like this, is a pretty competent wordsmith. Here's some examples: The dev has contacted me via PM yesterday for escrowing IEO funds, and we have found an arrangement this morning, so i can confirm that i'll be the escrow for this IEO.
Later i'll post a signed message with the bitcoin address + rules/details.
Here we are, thanks to alex for have accepted to become our escrow. As soon as he will post address and rules the IEO will start. We're sorry for the one-day-delay, but it's not a problem, everything is ok, and the coin launch will stay on April 7. The time of the launch will be announced with the countdown that we're working on it. We're happy to announce you that we've finished with the web site, and it's online right now. Take a look. It's always a work in progress ready to host news and future features we're going to develop. http://www.cypher.pw/btw, why the DOC isn't updated yet? Where's the escrow? It should be more active here.
Well, we're sorry about the delay for the update of the doc, but escrow contacted us yesterday telling us that he was away today, probably he's going to update the doc later today or at worst tomorrow morning. We're keeping track of the transactions so when he'll be back he'll takes a moment to update it, it'll be just a copy/paste of our data on the official doc. His ability to use correct apostrophe grammar such as "we're, we've, it's, he'll" and hyphenated phrasing like "one-day-delay" plus correct use of there, their & they're indicates a reasonable level of education and care with what's being written. Now compare that to the supposed PMs Grandom303 has recreated above and ask yourself this question: Why would the dev, having written all his posts with a high degree of correct grammar and sentence structuring, suddenly start writing PMs with all the skill of.....well.....let's see....who could we compare those PMs to.....mmm.....I know, Grandom303!!! Second thing- if you dont want to believe-dont believe- let people have their own opinion
This is a dialogue with cypher dev and other dev team member. As you can see issue doesnt be like it looks like. The only one target they want is to eran a lot of many. It is a well built project to earn as much money as it is possible. It is just a SCAM . Very well prepared scam...
I'll leave it up to all intelligent readers to arrive at their own conclusions about Grandom303's intentions here. |
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A new logo is on the way. I'll need to add some bling bling to it as well.  Honestly, I would prefer if we stick with my design I think a coin shouldn't be bling bling. It should be simple and elegant, for everyone to use. Could you pls include the coin logo on the top right corner of the wallet pls ?  Let the community vote over which design to go with. Sounds fine to me. I appreciate what you've done ahmed9979 and you should be commended for having a go at improving the look of BitcoinTX. I think if BTX were purely a casino chip, your design would be excellent as it's pretty smart as says "casino/gambling/betting" (and I know we have a coin that has "lucky" staking rewards so in some ways it makes sense). However I feel that AltTrader's design is the better and more appropriate looking of the two. I think labelling the coin as focused purely on a gambling angle wouldn't be be the best way to present BTX; it can be far more than that and appeal to a wider audience. Once you put hearts, spades, diamonds etc on it, it's become casino only related. I'd personally be really happy if we adopted AltTrader's version. |
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Thx  And here is the new banner: Yeah that's great too. |
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Proposition for new logo. We are using a coin not a cross That looks really great AltTrader! I like the way the inner round plate looks like it could rotate inside the outer band (sort of like it has the qualities of a vault handle turning). Great work I think and I agree the logo being circular is far more appealing and appropriate. |
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Oh guys come on....
I am sure that this "cypherthing" will succeed in the future ... but now, I only see a very unprofessional video, ... this video sucks ... the price will fall.
I almost sell all my coins ... but I'll wait, because I think in the future we will see something better ... but now I am disappointed.
The golden guys of Silicon Valley in their garage were very professional too I am sure that cypherkey is a good idea, I am sure that cypher team is working hard, and I am sure this coin will break 50k... but... this video sucks. Josevv is right. The video is very rudimentary and amateurish. It does nothing to give confidence that this project is being handled in a professional and sound manner. I'm disappointed too (but not surprised). Cypher7A69 you've clearly got some great ideas and you're obviously working on something pretty substantial, but you need to consider and think about what this looks like to a new investor perusing this thread. The video doesn't explain anything and leaves the casual viewer who may not know what this is all about just scratching their head. I'd really like to see this done far more competently (doesn't have to be "professional") but at least mount your phone on a tripod and then perhaps add some frames that explain what it is you're doing, what is being achieved and why it matters. That's what will get people excited. At the moment though, the only people that comprehend what you're presenting are those that have been here from the beginning and have been keeping up with the story. You need to help the newcomer comprehend what that thing is you're making and why it's so important. |
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