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341  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 22, 2015, 05:58:38 PM
Hey, while your scraping emails, rather then ignore it...take a moment to validate the connection between a Mike Johnson

Change the record asswipe.  Nobody gives a fuck

Hey Josh (AntiTroll), while we're scraping emails, why don't you elaborate on this relationship between you and Rishab?

Josh tells Rishab,
Quote
I would buy as many as you can.

What my brother did not tell you,  is that the new miner we will start selling,  requires a HashCoin to work. I am canceling round three.

So it means they can only get Hashcoins from large holders,  like you Smiley you guys will have the majority supply and will be able to control the price.

http://pastebin.com/mP4gP4ht


I'm willing to bet I have enough evidence against you to outlast your 'misdirection' attempts, but please, challenge me Smiley

I'm a tech idiot - can someone who has been here a while tell me whether these messages are credible RE: their authenticity? 
342  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 22, 2015, 05:38:58 AM
Side note: So it's clear that everyone on this forum used to get the shit kicked out of them growing up. I didn't even know people really waste this much time on message boards... I have the awkward feeling you get when your watching someone, they are royally screwing up and you feel embarrassed for them (is that called empathy?). At any rate,  I'm here for one reason...you morons still think that this character Mike Johnson is a real person? I'm crying right now... Two types of people in this world, people that get shit done and lexicographers (people who just use big words). Keep posting fellas, while your doing that your making room for someone out here actually doing something... like this fruitloop you are carrying on about that created a business in cryptocurrency. Shaking my head...

I will spot you its an alias for discussion. However,

1) Really interesting, really irrelevant.
2) Dude doesn't want my money or your money.
3) He's earned a stripe or two and has actually delivered on a promise.
4) Don't assume push back against the idea here means that there's disagreement IRL.  See #s 1-3 above.
343  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 22, 2015, 12:44:44 AM
I think someone did contact "rishab" a few pages back and got an answer. Perhaps he can be enticed to come here and spill the beans before he gets extracted and sent to internment in Koobah? All his email addresses:

https://www.zaubacorp.com/director/RISHAB-PRADEEP-JAIN/01252388


Yeah, that was me. I don't think he's talking to me anymore though, so one of you guys might want to try. I'm sure he has some interesting stuff to say.

He answered me from this address:  rishabh@livingstones.in

This is his other address from the scam website that he is setting up with Josh's advice. rishab@myworldofwinning.com Interestingly enough, Rishab password protected that site. Wish I had taken screenshots/archives of it in all its stupid glory.

Have gathered a few things you might like here, then:

1. http://pastebin.com/srQawuAE --> http://imgur.com/8c3zU6G

2. http://www.webboar.com/whois/myworldofwinning.com

3. https://www.google.com/search?q=whois+umair%40myworldofwinning.com&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS503US503&oq=whois+umair%40myworldofwinning.com&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.6894j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8#q=umair%40myworldofwinning.com

4. https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amyworldofwinning.com&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS503US503&oq=site%3Amyworldofwinning.com&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.4936j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8

5. http://imgur.com/touBWoq

6. ttps://www.google.com/search?q=World+Of+Winning+Inc.+228%2C+Hamilton+Avenue%2C+3rd+Floor%2C+Palo+Alto%2C+California+–+94301&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS503US503&oq=World+Of+Winning+Inc.+228%2C+Hamilton+Avenue%2C+3rd+Floor%2C+Palo+Alto%2C+California+–+94301&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8

7. http://jumpingthoughts.com/wow/index.html (note the similarity in addresses between this page and the one provided in numbers 5 and 6 above.)

8. https://jelastic.com/tmid/rules/

EDIT - this from days and days ago, some of this will be irrelevant now.
344  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 21, 2015, 09:02:12 PM
LOL, did 50% of the merchants accepting XPY just exit the market?



https://hashtalk.org/topic/32295/i-cant-do-this-here-anymore/2

He does that for pitty buys.
345  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 21, 2015, 08:00:38 PM
WARNING - a little off topic, but tangentially related.

Can someone tell me, still very much a tech noob, what the significance is of the term "lion" or names containing "Lee" or "Leo" (including homophones like "Leigh" or parts of names ("Cleo," as a made up example)).  In my sleuthing, I'm seeing an uncanny amount of usernames w/ Lee, Leo, etc. in the twitter followers (and other social media) of some of the most unscrupulous appearing individuals in digital currency.

IMHO, this is not a coincidence (maybe it is, maybe its a figment of my imagination), but I haven't been interested tech/computers in a substantial way but for a year and half or so and lack some of the foundational knowledge to know what's going on.

From the hacker dictionary:

lion food /n./

[IBM] Middle management or HQ staff (or, by extension, administrative drones in general). From an old joke about two lions who, escaping from the zoo, split up to increase their chances but agree to meet after 2 months. When they finally meet, one is skinny and the other overweight. The thin one says: "How did you manage? I ate a human just once and they turned out a small army to chase me -- guns, nets, it was terrible. Since then I've been reduced to eating mice, insects, even grass." The fat one replies: "Well, I hid near an IBM office and ate a manager a day. And nobody even noticed!"

http://www.outpost9.com/reference/jargon/jargon_27.html#SEC34

Look at these mods here: http://www.reddit.com/r/lionporn/

Very interested to read what others think and whether there is something to this.

EDIT - Very aware of seeing patterns where none may exist, totally accept that I might be crazy.  I just don't see the Lee/Lion thing in other areas, just tech/digital currency/scammers.


346  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 21, 2015, 07:48:38 PM
Not sure if this comedy has been captured:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/32280/pray-for-the-leader

https://web.archive.org/web/20150221190021/https://hashtalk.org/topic/32280/pray-for-the-leader


I wouldn't consider myself a digital currency expert, but its my understanding that there's nobody who can make something bitcoin-official (being distributed and decentralized and all). Seems like some HT folks, and possibly GAWCEO, have a fundamental misunderstanding of BTC.

Could be wrong . . .


Not sure if you caught the sarcasm I believe was intended by the OP of that thread... Huh

Yep.  More about the totality of comments.
347  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 21, 2015, 07:03:48 PM
Not sure if this comedy has been captured:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/32280/pray-for-the-leader

https://web.archive.org/web/20150221190021/https://hashtalk.org/topic/32280/pray-for-the-leader


I wouldn't consider myself a digital currency expert, but its my understanding that there's nobody who can make something bitcoin-official (being distributed and decentralized and all). Seems like some HT folks, and possibly GAWCEO, have a fundamental misunderstanding of BTC.

Could be wrong . . .
348  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 21, 2015, 04:13:10 AM
Guys I have a crazy new idea. Yes paycoin is a shitcoin but let's have some fun. Let's see how the paycoin community is reacting to crazy posts. For those that have still have hashtalk accounts let's try a reverse FUD. Try posting "Hold on to your coins a little bird told me..." and other such posts. Let's see how easily this shitcoin can be manipulated. I think already we've reached a new epic record of posts. All of us, myself included, have warned and warned and pointed to evidence saying this is a scam, but it's obviously have fallen of deaf ears. Hey, the day traders could make a few points just day trading the stuff. Let's try some positive posts on hastalk for the fuck of it. Thank god I never bought this turkey but did make a shitload selling hash on nicehash.

Have you been drinking?
349  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 21, 2015, 03:38:53 AM
No problem - just happened to see it.    

Wasn't legal advice, btw.
350  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 21, 2015, 03:23:34 AM
he knew will get prosecuted only if people LOST money, so after money in = money out he made XPY and the whole purpose of all the promise/delays is to get people fed up and cut their losses

anyone who cuts their losses is helping take the noose off his neck

you can't prosecute him afterwards for loss: why didn't you wait for me to implement feature x and y, we had problemx such and such, we were hacked and ... it could take on for ever

Even when people changed from hashlets to stakers: who told you to do it? i did not force you? the market was down and you were getting 1 satoshi, this is a market condition which could change any time, besides we were getting new hardware ...

So at the moment the only two positions who can prosecute are:
A) Those who still have hashlets and they closed the hashlets on them, thus breaking the promise of eternally profitable.
B) Those people who were mining hash points with the promise of $20/XPY

Did a lawyer give you that advice? I find it very hard to believe a court will care when you cut your losses in a scam.

Anyways nobody can sue GAW because they've included an arbitration clause in their TOS. Everyone will just have to wait for one of the federal agencies to prosecute them.

TOS' aren't upheld unconditionally, not when they're they product of bad behavior.  Also, look up contracts of adhesion.
351  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 20, 2015, 09:35:34 PM
I agree to some extent, SD. But the reality is that I decided to learn a bit about trading and since I was following this and seeing the opportunities to make 5-10% on a daily basis I decided to give it a whirl. My appetite for risk is rather low, however. I started off with about .2 and I now have .57 (in ~month), so I can't complain. And I am around the house most of the time right now so all I have to do is set the alarm and wait. If it makes a solid 20% slide and still has support below it you know these idiots will try to prop the price back up to where it was- at least once.  Last couple days the alarm never went off. Today I turned the dang thing off, because it is taking a major slide and I am not comfortable buying in until it finds a new "normal". Since it just broke .00280 I think we will see it touch .0025 before the end of the day- barring some Hail Mary "announcement" from GAWCEO, of course. Speaking of which- we now have "somebody" alluding that he may be Josh on a different account, because those darned pesky Feds are watching his regular account.

https://i.imgur.com/ZHh6XLf.jpg
https://hashtalk.org/topic/32215/when-will-josh-do-something/12 Archive: https://archive.today/kyIYd

Hard to believe these morons are actually excited about Josh (supposedly) announcing that he has to hide from Johnny Law to keep this scam going so he can steal every last nickle from them.

More "Might be Josh hiding from Johnny Law" gems here: https://hashtalk.org/topic/32217/the-reason-the-honors-program-did-not-launch/14  
YaaaH! You are a true hero Homero! Way to show those darned three letter agencies who are in the business of protecting people from getting ripped off by scam artists! They won't stop you!  YaaaY!



Already removed the Admin status and changed the avatar. Nice job catching this before it happened, Paul. This is so obviously Josh. The misspellings, "your" instead of "you're". Classic Josh.

Up-to-date archive file in case this thread gets nuked:

https://archive.today/VTPxE


So... the thread is now locked with a final msg from Mr. Ganza to complete the shit show.



Oh yeah details will be released shortly on the big announcement.



This is the most interesting development in weeks, IMO. Obviously Josh was/is rasalghul and Jonah now has at least joint control over the gawceo account. Wonder if this post was planned by Josh/Jonah as a deliberate pump, or this is more Josh going rogue and Jonah coming in to mop up after Josh piddled on the carpet. Either way, I need another bag of popcorn...





rasalghul . . . anagram for "All Gars uh," which sounds like "all garza."  Put that in your . . . er,  Grin *grinning*  Tongue
352  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 18, 2015, 10:43:06 PM
yes 100k merchants and mass adoption is right around the corner. even peercoin is healthier (2x)





Subtle litecoin trolling.   Tongue
353  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 18, 2015, 07:29:25 PM
Unless we're discussing botany, can we please eliminate the word "bud" from our vocabulary?  Reading it (or hearing it for that matter) is akin to me hearing fingernails scratch a chalkboard.
354  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 17, 2015, 05:38:04 PM
Every time I see that picture of Pease I have the urge to order a liter of cola.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6753fb4e41/super-troopers-liter-of-cola
355  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 15, 2015, 03:53:09 PM
This video explains exactly what happened with Paycoin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2KuT2wVGzY

LOVE Fyrstikken, but there's a major flaw in that video - should be "Ferrari" store.
356  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 11, 2015, 04:38:32 PM
Hey guys, don't worry about those extra bonus coins. GAW had to keep them due to a "series of internal challenges".

No harm done...  Roll Eyes

https://hashtalk.org/topic/31586/test-coin-and-compoudning-update

From that thread, in addition to everything else we've seen, I suspect we're going to need an SAT-type test be a qualified investor in cryptocurrencies and related companies:


http://imgur.com/uFR4Wmi
357  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 11, 2015, 04:19:33 PM
Mr. Ganza showing off his high school education. I swear to god if he says "their" instead of "there" one more time I'm gonna blow my brains out.


That's why it's a huge red flag when a well written GAW/Paybase post/blog shows up, we can obviously tell it's not him.

Just when you thought it can't get any weirder:

http://forum.gethashing.com/t/xpy-paycoin-discussion/90/8603
http://gyazo.com/1cbfdaeb6f3447e6346db172dd3824ac

Either that Nothing/Bl4nk/wassername is full of shit or the CEO has bailed long ago.

 It can get A LOT weirder.  Remember when Alex Green turned out to not exist at all?  AG was a totally fake identity and persona of a serial scammer.  That might be weirder than this situation currently; BUT, we might get as weird or weirder later on.  

EDIT - RE: The confession about vacation - who calls a vacation a "temporary break?"  Vacations are no big deal, start-up execs don't need to plan an elaborate exit plan to take a vacation because they're non-news events. There shouldn't be any leaking info about it in this case.  To me, a quasi-tinfoiler, it smells of either [more] propaganda (to throw off "haters" as much as law enforcement perhaps) and/or major internal changes beyond a vacation (either positive or negative change - will hold off judgment for now). Anyone ever meet Jonah in person?  Is this a real person? Is it credible that he'd be left in charge? Very questions.
358  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 10, 2015, 07:37:22 PM
Lol - If they gave a crap, they would have sent the payout to an address that no one has any chance of having the private key to. Like PMyNameisJoshmQj2jHudUA1Z928iKr6Vh or something.

Or Joe Mordica realized he could sell those "test" coins and said, "Screw GAW, I'm cashing out."

Zombie coins for the zombie.   Wink
359  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 10, 2015, 07:08:04 PM


Should have had a pool on how SoonTM this was to happen.
360  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 10, 2015, 05:43:00 PM
Question: is there a roster of the current dev team somewhere w/ their credentials?  Seems like a pretty basic thing for a company like this to have on their website (e.g., one trying to revolutionize payments).  What experience do these dev-folks have?  What experience do the devs and other professionals have in the highly regulated and long-existing payments industry?

Actually, no.

Why offer up your staff security, especially when dealing with payments. Full disclosure is not always smart or appropriate. I know I wouldn't release all my staff info to a forum of anonymous people. Think about it.

Whichever way you want to spin it, there are many legitimate reasons why opacity works. Security is as good as any,

Bull. People engaged in honest commerce have nothing to fear and everything to gain by being transparent. Criminals have much to fear and everything to lose by being transparent.

Are you kidding? Very, very few companies make a roster of their technical staff public, for all sorts of good reasons that have nothing to do with breaking the law.

How would you know whether you're dealing with a scammer, then?  maybe not every security or developer person on staff needs to be disclosed, but there should be some folks w/ verifiable credentials involved or advising on cryptography, payments, economics, etc. We know the bitcoin and dogecoin developers, for example, along w/ their professional credentials.  why would anyone accept anything less from these bozos?
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