Any update regarding if they do come including COA or not?
If they do indeed, my bid for lot 5 is 0.017

Oh and I was wondering if these can be graded despite their unusual size.

Obviously. And usually such statements will soon be followed by the proposal of a digital-dollar or maybe some other idea of a (possibly international) centralized "cryptocurrency".
Or they indeed just intend to fill their pockets while at the same time trying to gain the maximum control possible on the market.

That said, statements like these usually do have a positive short term effect on the crypto market. Still - it's always scary to see the mega companies such as BlackRock possibly making moves. It usually is not in favour of "the people".

Ahahaha, funny you come up with this (semi-)scam just now. It's not new at all. I heard about this over one years ago and dismissed it on the spot.
So, as others have stated already, web5 is just a pure marketing name.

I'd highly recommend to watch this awesome 2-minute summary by fireship: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDZWWFSZUF0
Probably all you need to know in there.

Personally I am waiting for webXP /s

I may not have made that clear in OP: But I can still access my wallet in mSIGNA. That's not the issue. This is where I got all the public keys and see a few of change funds still on there.
The issue is using the exportable keys as described in OP via 1), 2) or 3) to import properly via an other wallet.

Also, my wallet is NOT setup as a multisig, just a regular HD wallet. Multisig apparantly was optional.
My guess it's only about finding the right derivation path. Wonder if there is any tool to determine which is used by mSIGNA here.
Thanks for digging up that old pdf - no info on their derivation path used, though.

Seems the derivation path issue was already around in 2017: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2144498.msg21524209#msg21524209

Probable solutions to my problem
- get mSIGMA to connect to a node (I don't have a full node)
- find the proper derivation path used by the wallet & import to another wallet

Seems like the same or similar tool like the one I linked to in my post.
The problem is, I can play with some of the settings but the "Derived Addresses" list on the bottom of the page doesn't come up with a match to one of the public addresses I can see in the mSIGNA wallet.
My guess is BIP49 (or maybe BIP141) would be the right option, as they are the only ones producing addresses starting with 3. But playing a little with the derivation pathes (I tried 1-5/1-5) doesn't bring up a match.

Something to note: The BIP32 Extended Key does never match the one from mSIGNA no matter which of the BIP options I choose, also altering some of the derivation pathes.


Segwit was implemented 2017 if I recall correctly, so the wallet must be around 6 years old as one set of addresses starts with 3 (first version of segwit addresses).

I still do have the mSIGNA wallet. It doesn't offer any option to export single private keys. The only private key export option is said BIP32 extended private key.
The problem with the software is, I wasn't able to get it to connect to a node so far.
I used this list here: https://bitnodes.io/nodes/#network-snapshot and tried some of the addresses. Any better suggestions?

Thanks!

This is a question for the sligthly more tech-savy Bitcoiners out here.

I recently accessed an old wallet called mSIGNA. It was recommended about 7 years ago and I used it for a while.
Now I want to access the remaining funds. This would only work if either I can connect to a node with this outddated wallet - Couldn't get it to work so far.
Or by exporting and re-importing the keys to another wallet.

The good news: I can access the public key list that was in use. And found an amount of slightly above 0.01 BTC that I want to transfer.
I still have the password.

The wallet allows to export the following (private) information:
1. Seed word list. It's a 24 word list.
2. BIP32 extended key
3. Private key file (file ending in .priv) -> no idea what that is and if it can be imported in other wallets

Now, I have tried to import 1) and 2) via electrum wallet.
Here are the options I tried without success so far (wallet not showing any transactions in the tx history). Note, I am connected to a node and other wallets update correctly, so it's not a connection problem.
- KEYRESTORE
  a) I already have a seed - here the import is only possible by switching to BIP39 seed
     I tried all 3 available address formats (legacy, p2sh-segwit and native segwit) without success. Also Detect Existing Accounts doesn't find anything. I left the suggested derivation path unchanged - maybe with the right path settings this could be solved?
  b) Use a master key - If I choose this option, Electrum accepts the BIP32 extended key exported from mSIGNA. However again, there are no transactions recognized.
- IMPORT BITCOIN ADDRESSES OR PRIVATE KEY - you can only import regular private keys, and I cannot export/access there from the mSIGNA wallet. - I played a little with this tool: https://bip32.tools/?lang=en But couldn't get it to create a list of private keys for me.

If anyone can either help me to import my mSIGNA keys into another wallet so I can access any remaining funds or get mSIGNA to work again (meaning make it connect to a node so I can just send my funds) it would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

Made this self-moderated to avoid spam and farm comments. Anything off-topic or doing nothing else than suggesting something already explained in my post will be deleted.


Possibly helpful resources (edited)
- mSIGNA github: https://github.com/ciphrex/mSIGNA
- archive of old website: https://web.archive.org/web/20150316215945/https://ciphrex.com/



final edit: a solution
The "easiest" way to access my unspent outputs / a solution was provided here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460709.msg62604661#msg62604661
Case solved / funds returned.

However we still don't know the correct derivation path of mSIGNA and how to import the seed phrase or master private key into another wallet in way that lets you access your funds. (bonus quest for anyone interested, no bounty for solving it, though)

None of the cryptos you mentioned comes close AT ALL to bitcoin. Completely different technology. In many regards both are not at all decentralized.
Machine learning and AI to create decentralization? What kind of buzzword-joke is this? Don't fall for stupid ad-campaigns!

Suprisingly (or maybe not) among the thousands of shitcoins and tokens out there, maybe 0.1% if at all could be labeled as decentralized.
Personally I only know about Litecoin, which is extremely similar to Bitcoin with tiny advantages here and there (quicker blocks, slightly ahead against Bitcoin to implement new tech) and some bigger disadvantages (by a factor of  at least 50x less hashing power -> much less secure), kind of just a Bitcoin clone that nobody is sure anyone really needs.
And then there is Monero. A true privacy coin, mostly decentralized and great ASIC resistanc mining algo.

I'd strongly recommend you stay with Bitcoin, though. Except for Monero XMR, which does indeed have some functionality Bitcoin is missing right now, there is no need for the other alt- (aka shit-) coins.

Okay thanks for the info! They look perfect for crypto stamps.
Just wondering, do you need to peel them from a ballet card or is there any way to buy them seperately?
Checked their store: https://store.ballet.com/ - But I cannot find just the card holders for purchase.

Interesting to know you can get verified and enjoy some priviliges. I noticed some accounts that were linked to twitter. Hope you don't need an active account there to get verified.
Maybe signing a message with a bitcoin wallet and posting it here on the forum would be a good idea for reputable accounts to get verified?

I didn't find any info on how they store deposits and escrowed frunds from their FAQ page: https://scarce.city/faqs
I also didn't find anything regarding fees. Or do they not charge any fees?
A little strange.

Thanks for this crucial info. I edited my post to make sure no one does get the wrong idea.
Generally speaking, if anyone tries to advanced mode with a multi-sig wallet I would advice to test run their setup without crucial funds thorougly first and only then start using it for bigger amounts of Bitcoin.

Congrats to the winner. My first time trying scarce.city. Easy experience.
Need to look into it more, though - is it like an exchange holding my funds or do they have a decentralized system behind it etc.
Also, what I don't like - there is no "verify bid" pop-up before submitting your bid, seems easy to make a mistake by adding one digit too much.

Anyway, GG PeakDk.

Tiny info on multi-sig by our OG Andreas Antonopoulos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhedu2XD3hU
It's three years old but still valid.

Personally I love the 2-out-of-3 multisig option. 3 seed-phrases is still manageable and it gives extra security, because if one key is compromised /stolen, the funds can still not be accessed.
While at the same time if one key is LOST, you can still just use the other two keys to generate your actual wallet.
Great combination of security and feasibility.

EDIT: Important to also SAVE the master public key, otherwise restoring with able to restore your wallet with only 2 of 3 seed phrases. Thanks @hosseinimr93 for the info.

Hahaha, Ripple from Ripplelabs is one of the most centralized top10-valued cryptos out there. Imho a great representation of what the term shitcoin actually means. I wouldn't want any XRP collectible in my collection ever for that reason.
From https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2023/06/13/ripple-does-not-care-whether-xrp-is-sufficiently-decentralized/

That said, these CT silver coins do look fantastic.

In general, good idea. Most altcoins will go to (almost) zero eventually, as they lack any additional value over the big players - and it's hard to guess when they'll go to zero.
The altcoin market has been in a big hole for quite a while, so it could be debateable if it would have been a better idea to wait for the next altcoin bullrun and convert to BTC then. That said, you never know if some of these altcoins will ever recover and trying to time the market is what loses money for most.

Recarding storing your coins. Please check the wallet section of bitcointalk. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=37.0
And make sure to use an open-source and community-verified wallet instead of trust wallet, especially for storing Bitcoin.
Also, buying a hardwarewallet (Trezor or similar, I don't recommend Ledger) is recommended long term for most users.

You can also check your wallet's security via this website: https://walletscrutiny.com/

Okay, I see. Entropy in seed generation of the wallets is a concerning topic that I haven't thought about too much so far.
Regarding tokens and random shitcoins, I still don't see many options that are working well and open-source. I guess sticking to Trezor or similar is the only way to go right now?

A follow-up thought, if the entropy created by a wallet is in some way skewed - I guess it's still very hard to find out in what way exactly it is skewed and then create an algo based on that info to take advantage to narrow down the actual seed-scope. Also it greatly depends on how many bits are lost if it will fall into a range that can be exploited or not.

Just updated my personal test.
Will try to participate in the logo contest.

The upcoming weeks I should be able to post more and some high quality stuff, so aiming for that green zone again.

Thanks to Royse777 and sinbad.io for a great campaign so far.

Reserved.

What an interesting yet alarming topic.

Tbh never heard of RFC 6979 - is there any way to quickly check which wallet does make use of it or doesn't?


Oh wow, I never heard of that. Not too suprsing, given they inveted their own crypto and used that strange base3-bit-thing If I remember correctly.
My guess is a ton of noob-software for random shitcoins would suffer from problems including their entropy generation.

Great pieces and fair price, almost seems like a steal - but most items currently sold seem to be.
Just wanted to inquire about the slab, where can I get these? Currently trying to put some of my collection into better order. Good slabs for Kialara bars would come in handy.

Clear words on a clear topic.
Even though I don't think something needs utility to have value. But then again, it also depends on the definition of utility. The utility of art can be up to debate, but the value of *some* *real* art (whatever that means) cannot be debated imho.

Art can be created out of almost anything. Yes, even ordinals could be used to create art.
But as long as people love to speculate that some sheep may be willing to pay more than themselves for something as un-creative as number like 999999 or whatever, you won't need real art to fuel the market.
So right now, it's nothing more than a ponzi-like hype-train - as long as more people jump on without derailing that thing completely, it's all fun and games. In the end, a few will have profited from the gullibility of many, and many will have lost some substancial amounts of money and own a bunch of digital-void as compensation.