Better hope you don't snap off the nipple or you'd have to replace the whole board.

Also, temperatures 60% lower is a really bad way of saying what they're trying to say. 60% lower temperature from, say, 60C is about -140C if you define temperature properly.

But, interesting.

That's fair. I had forgotten about the mention in the other thread.

The scope of this discussion actually encompasses most of the board design talk from my approximately-hundred-page BM1384 dev thread which is now retired and back a few pages. The same logic applies here as does there with regard to board design - the point being, there will be board design. Nobody has ever said we'd be using an existing board and swap a newer chip on. Okay, that's not true - I'm sure some people have erroneously stated that or asked if that was the plan, but were shot down or corrected every time.

It's not possible to use a chip the board wasn't designed for, and it's doubly impossible to use a chip by a different manufacturer with not only a different footprint, pinout and power requirement but also communication protocol.

From the beginning this has been a board design project, meaning the project exists to design a board. Not to reuse one. Reuse the mechanical parts (fans, heatsinks etc) has been stated from the beginning, but never once has anyone "in the project" said anything about reusing any electrical component (hashing board or controller) of an existing miner.

Within the scope of this thread (the open community miner) there has been nothing except discussion of a new board with its own power and controls.

So at this point anyone assuming we're trying to stick Bitfury chips on an old Antminer board has not been paying attention at all. Nor has he been paying attention to pretty much anything miner-design-related that I've said in any thread in the last full year.

Didn't someone from Bitfury back up their claim a bit? And wasn't this actually posted a couple days before kilo publicly announced the plans for a bitfury-based S1 swap? I'm not saying it's not a scam, just make sure your evidence is valid if you're going to say it is.

I don't think you've been paying attention at all.

Heck if I know, I don't have one to test with. But if the S7 controller will work for an S5+ which will work on S5 boards, then yeah probably.

Not necessarily. I take home about $50 a week once the bills are paid and have been fairly broke for most of my life but I like to think I'm not evil. It's not lacking money, it's wanting more money than you have and being willing to compromise ethics to get more instead of working for it. The midwest is full of decent folks who lack money. Props, though, for getting the quote right - most people attribute money as the root of all evil, rather than the love of it. Money itself isn't evil - money is just a tool for trading one thing for another.

Anyways, I think the rest of the coin is spoken for.

Yeah, it sure doesn't help that my next board is about three weeks behind schedule. And that's behind the adjusted schedule. I was hoping to be started on 'em before Christmas.

Reckon. It'll still hurt, just not quite as much. But probably still more than it used to.

Anyways. What's-his-face is apparently a bastard and I still have 6BTC to sell to someone who is not a bastard.

Most payments are sent as goods and services. I always used to calculate 3% loss to PayPal, but it looks like they upped it to 4% in the last year or so. Can't imagine why, not like they have much for costs. I've been doing regular business on there (through eBay and direct sales) for going on four years.

4% under rate (plus 4% fees) isn't great, but yeah it does beat 100% under rate.

Well, the rule was always no noobs. Like I said, trying to be nice. Won't happen again.

PayPal account was erimock at yahoo; owner Erin Mock.

That's also in the works. But I've had enough people still asking for pods that I figured I'd make the offer. If enough people speak up in the next couple days I'll add it to the list.

Pretty much. Bend the rules once in two years, get scammed once in two years. I was not aware a transaction reversal could be that fast. Whenever I've needed PayPal's help it took frikkin' weeks. Had a claim filed on me once because I didn't ship extra stuff that the idiot didn't pay for - he thought he did, but sent his payment to an account that very obviously didn't exist instead of where I told him to pay. I really don't like idiots. Or dishonest people. Oftentimes dishonest people are also idiots. So, new rule. No noobs, and no idiots.

Indeed it was, payer's choice. I got emails from PayPal one minute apart: "We're investigating..." and "been resolved".

And this is why I don't take risks on newb members - because when I try and do something nice the paypal transaction gets reversed inside an hour. Looking at you, essaouira82. Thanks for having the gall to ask for a second sale.

The secondhand market, I reckon. I've got three or four that could be parted with if necessary.

6BTC remain

So, question. If I chucked out a dozen or so pods that hooked up to an S5 controller (via the regular 18-pin cable, including temp readings), with 8x BM1384 under a Freezer7 cooler, with manual voltage control and a simple LED bar graph voltage readout corresponding roughly to 25mV node-level increments, would they sell at about $75 apiece? Note this does not include an S5 controller, but with the right firmware and cabling one S5 controller could hook up to 4 boards. I'm sending out for a batch of prototype PCBs of some stuff next week and want to know if it's worth it.

It hasn't gotten any better since then. Give me some 80's metal.

Also give me Bitfury chips, but you know, in a couple weeks.