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3401  Economy / Gambling / Re: This is madness. Something super more than DeepSum on: June 21, 2022, 06:34:06 AM
Just look at this screenshot and you know what I mean.
I hope you mean nothing than you want to use this to gamble yourself? Or what are you bringing up?

1. You want to borrow $17,987,638.71 from someone in this forum?
2. You want to sell your strategy/script?
I go for the second option, he wants to sell his strategy script that may lead to nothing but losses.

Take a loan on the bank or used your salary as an initial bankroll then play for yourself. I don't understand the need of selling it while you can benefit from it for yourself if that script is really working?
I will not recommend him to take a loan because it is against the rules of gambling, not even about taking loan alone, but also about not using the amount you can not afford to lose. But I will also say that he should benefit from it himself, if selling it, only a fool will buy it.
3402  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitcoin roulete on: June 20, 2022, 04:33:49 PM
You do not have to confuse people, if you play a roulette with bitcoin, it can be called bitcoin roulette just because you are playing with bitcoin. There are some articles that indicate casinos that people can play roulette that accept bitcoin and such can be called bitcoin roulette. There is no other special thing about it. If you see most casinos on this forum, you will see that they support roulette and they support bitcoin deposit and withdrawal.
3403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A Glimpse on Ireland's First Ever Gambling Regulation Bill on: June 20, 2022, 12:00:54 PM
The initiative is meant to help prevent problem gaming
The main gambling problem is addiction. How is the bill going to help addiction? Let us hope it will help to some extent, but I see the best way to help addiction is the help an addicted person get from friends and family around him and also learn that no income, profit and earning can be gotten from gambling. If Ireland pass the bill and become law, there are still other gambling sites that Irish gamblers can resort to.

Any bill, recommendation, and suggestions that are meant to protect the minors are worth and should be supported, a country doesn't want to find out that the majority of its people are very into gambling, it will harm the resources and the reputation of the country if this happens, advertising influenced the choice and daily lives of every individual and by introducing this bill it limits the influence on the fertile mind of the young people..
In fact, every country should have a bill implemented to protect the youth from the influence of these gambling advertisements
It will be better much appreciated if gambling ads on TV channels, YouTube's and social media are not allowed again, but I doubt if this would be possible. Kids and many people are exposed to gambling ads, if the bill are passed and signed and become law and got effective, it woukd help the youths in the country.
3404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: National Sports and Sports Betting on: June 20, 2022, 08:09:17 AM
I didn't have to google to find out that football is the most widespread sport in the world. Of course, basketball is also very popular. In my opinion, cricket, due to the fact that it is the most popular sport in the country with the most people in the world (India), is also watched by a huge number of people.
However, it is about which sport the most people bet on and in this competition, football is the first place, and then for a long long nothing..
I too do not have to Google search it, I know exactly that football is the most recognized sport in the world, it has been what we did argued during my secondary schools days, that was the reason I googled search it to just show how football is the commonest.

Even in my area, if talking about sport, relating it to betting, people prefer to go for football than any other ones. Even if talking about watching sport, the only viewing centers in my country are for only football, that is why the time when playing top soccers leagues do come with shouts in many streets after a club score.
3405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on How to Manage Gambling Addiction an Open Discussion. on: June 20, 2022, 07:50:20 AM
Remind Yourself that Gamblers Change
It was a thing of the pass that gambler don't change.  Many people speculate that once a person is addicted to gambling, they will forever a gambling addict.  But this thing has been proven wrong.  Many gambling addicts who gone through medical treatments are able to recover and avoid gambling all in all.
I was once an addict and I was very addicted to gambling to the extent I even can go hungry because of gambling, but it got to a point, lessons from being an addict taught me to change for my life not be remain devastated and not meaningful, addicts life are not meaningful at all until they change.

But what people do say which is very right is that, for example, you have a friend, he is an addict, you told him not to gamble and told him also how he is losing that gain and how his life has become, but you still see him gambling. You can see other people telling you that gambling addicts do not just changed, that it is difficult to change.

I have never heard that addicts can not change, but I do hear that it is a difficult process and it will take time.
3406  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: National Sports and Sports Betting on: June 20, 2022, 07:38:45 AM
Its probably basketball that is the most popular around the world. You can ask every kid you see today, most of them would want to be on NBA. But his right, I don't play football but I'm also betting on football matches relying on the odds and some speculations of users.
It is not about doubt, football is the most common sport in the world. You can check this three different sites, I just searched using google search engine:

Note: I am not advising you to use google search engine because of scam ads

https://www.pledgesports.org/2017/06/top-10-most-played-sports
https://www.pledgesports.org/2020/03/the-top-10-most-popular-sports-in-the-world-2020
https://www.realbuzz.com/articles-interests/sports-activities/article/top-10-most-popular-participation-sports-in-the-world/#:~:text=Tennis,a%20ranking%20by%20Topend%20Sports.

If I search more, I will see more about football being the number 1.
3407  Economy / Speculation / Re: Was $17.5K the low? on: June 20, 2022, 07:30:53 AM
I'd personally prefer that we'd get far worse sort of "market cleansing" from here. Still so much useless fluff in the broader cryptocurrency space that I want those projects to just die out first.
But if we should face reality, this does not stop new projects to be created, there are almost 10000 20000 cryptocurrencies that are presently existing, new coins are created almost daily or weekly. What I just see is that altcoins have no utility and they are centralized, centralized coins are all not worthy to be coins, but people can not change. I always say this too, altcoins are totally gambling.

3408  Economy / Speculation / Re: Was $17.5K the low? on: June 19, 2022, 11:39:55 PM
My current outlook is that price will either rebound from the $17.5K lows towards $30K, or otherwise if this support is broken then price will capitulate further to $12K.
I do not think bitcoin price can decrease down to $12000, people are predicting $14000 or $15000 to be the lowest price or that means bitcoin becomes more volatile after this halving than 2016 halving to 2020 before the last halving.

The market is bullish presently as bitcoin increased back to $20000 and moving towards $21000, but if the bear market continues, I do not think it will decrease up to $12000, I am predicting$15000.
3409  Economy / Services / Re: Need help in trading,10$/day on: June 19, 2022, 11:24:39 PM
I will advice you to learn on your own, if we can do it, you can do it too.

Be careful of paid trading signals, paid bots and copy trading, learn trading from scratch yourself and use the amount of money you can afford to lose for it. Know one thing, that new traders are always lose, even lower the amount you can afford to lose, just use small part like $10 to be learning trading.

You might want to be extra careful with the PM's you'd be receiving right after this thread.
This is how some people are easily scammed, a user can just send him pm, demand for more money and scam him easily.
3410  Economy / Gambling / Re: risk of kyc on crypto casinos ? on: June 19, 2022, 11:17:03 PM
I guess some decentralized casinos won't really ask you for that and that's what you need to look for. But if it's managed and owned then it's not guaranteed that they're decentralized and still, you'll be asked for kyc if they have to.
I have heard about decentralized gambling sites before but that has just been in theory and not in real life, or am I missing something? Can you name any decentralized gambling site that you have ever known of? Before I joined this forum, I played on betting sites like bet365 and some others but which are all centralized. Also after I joined this forum and I tried some gambling sites, they are also all centralized, but though using cryptocurrencies as a payment means.

Decentralized casino would work in a way that every money used to stake will be directly deducted from your noncustododial wallet, have you seen any gambling site like that before? I doubt that.
3411  Economy / Gambling / Re: I can beat bet365, but cant find good seller. Increese your acc 50/50 profit!!! on: June 19, 2022, 08:00:49 AM
This should be in the marketplace and I don't recommend to anybody to deal with a newbie account its not that newbie are not worth our trust but when it comes to something like this, a newbie account with no reputation should not be entrusted with our gambling account, they claimed he has been scammed in the past he tried to show us that he is an honest person but that won't do be careful dealing with offer like this, we have a lot of similar situations like this in the past.
Even regardless of him being a newbie or not, even old members should not be trusted with your betting account. We should not forget that people on this forum can use VPN or Tor for accessing and they can be anonymous. Even if they use IP, there are cases they will scam someone without doing any investigation and the scam will be successful and he might just in this later case also go Scott free. Prevention is better than cure, never give a stranger your betting account login and just bet on your own or you will only lose more and more as the person that said he wants to work for you may make money from you and if later you lose, he will not have anything to contribute, or if you will, he can change the credit card or other withdrawal details easily and withdraw before you know. Even on some betting sites, you can withdraw all your deposit fund immediately before you bet, he can withdraw immediately as you deposit into your account or wait for the hours stated before the withdraw.
3412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC Fluctuations Effects Gamblers and Casino that uses USD($) upon deposit on: June 18, 2022, 08:02:34 PM
I know quite a number of them that converts to USD value of btc upon deposit, Roobet and Duelbits to mention a few, but withdrawals are in allowed cryptos of your choice but are valued at current USD value as at time of withdrawal, but incase of users who probably prefer to withdraw perhaps on weekly or few days basis after a few series of bets for the week, and a few days is more than enough for a significant fluctuation.
There are still few of them I still noticed like Betnomi and some other gambling site that their campaign is managed by Hhampuz and yahoo62278. I prefer gambling sites that converted the money to dollar, but it still depends. If the bear market is over, I can still like a gambling site that I can just deposit bitcoin directly. But I have preferred the money to be in fiat than crypto though. I prefer to have crypto dealing while trading on exchange instead.
3413  Economy / Gambling / Re: I can beat bet365, but cant find good seller. Increese your acc 50/50 profit!!! on: June 18, 2022, 07:38:26 PM
I cant find good bet365 account seller, and have a lot of scammers only.

Now i think that i can offer use your account and increese your balance. And then 50/50 profit.

Please help me do better, what do you think is good for this method?

1) Need only login+pass of your account. You can change it in any time if you want. I cant steel your account.
2) You dont need to do anything. I will do all.
3) We will have 50/50 of profit.
4) When we have x3 your balance - you will withdraw and send me half of profit.

You can ask me or offer all what you want. Lets discuss it here.
No one is a fool here. You want to help someone to gamble, not only that, you also need the login details of the person. Which means you can be able to withdraw the money the person will transfer into the account because it is still the person that will transfer into the account, that will only lead to a scam that only a fool will fall for.

Also if the account is used for illegal activity, who is going to be arrested or taken responsible? You know that it is not you but the owner of the bet365 account. I hope no one will fall fool of this.
3414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: KSA Initiates Slot Arcades Investigation as Role Model Ad Ban Looms on: June 17, 2022, 11:31:21 PM
Banning role models from participating in gambling related ads looks like a good move. Kids who look up to these people may be saved from gambling addiction because of that. Maybe Dutch Gambling Authority should completely ban all adverts.
I will say so too, it would be a good move, it has come to the time that gambling ads are advertised on the many channels that kids are watching. In my country, even the biggest show is sponsored many times by the biggest betting platform in my country, many people are exposed to this including kids and teens that are lesser than 18 years of age. Not only that, it goes beyond, YouTube videos partaining to my country are full of gambling ads, and many more like that. I will still prefer gambling to be advertised on a forum like this rather than online places that kids and teens are visiting often.
3415  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bonus abuse or matched betting? What do you think about? on: June 17, 2022, 11:14:30 PM
Matched betting requires tons of work. It is actually nothing illegal as you are just placing bets on a lot of bookmakers in order to profit something small. Whereas in bonus abusing, you literally try and game the system in order to get something more than the stipulated amount of the bonus provided by the casino. Better to work your butt off and release huge capitals in order to gain small amounts, and that is through matched betting. Profits are somewhat sure but will surely take more time in order to realize profits.
Am I getting matched betting wrong? Match betting is when a punter place another bet but which is free at a bookmaker. Assuming he already placed team A to win, but he got a free bet, he then placed another bet with his free bet in opposing way so that he can at least have more chance to make profit than losing.

If bonus abuse is against ToS of a gambling site, then also taking several accounts for match betting should be an abuse. But on the other hand, if only one account is used and betting on same match in opposing way is allowed, I do not think it is wrong. Or the gambling site would have disabled that from even happening on their betting platform.
3416  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Effectively Maximize Profits from Online Crypto Casinos on: June 17, 2022, 09:26:13 AM
Maximizing referrals is the best for gambling, because from them we get money to gamble without using personal money. But, to get referrals requires effort.
Also if you are able to invest in a new but legit gambling site, it is also a cool money and you can earn profits from it because gamblers will lose for you to make profit. But referring is also good and no losses, you can even be able to withdraw the money without gambling.

It is good having a set of limit for the amount will use for gambling and make a stop loss and take profit target of earning too by this you can make a different set of games and profit and you will not risk all of your assets.
Stop loss in gambling? Do you actually know what stop loss and take profit is? These are used in trading, not in gambling. In gambling, you can not set stop lose or take profit, you can only either win or lose the match or game that you staked.

Only what is related to stop loss and take profit in gambling is cashout, it happens more in a way the bettor will only want to cashout when losing already and it is more like stop lose.
3417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is it so hard to win at gambling? on: June 17, 2022, 09:09:22 AM
Addicted gamblers will sooner or later always lose. Of course there are also times when they win money, after all that is the incentive to continue. Convince yourself that you have won purely on strategy and that luck is a small factor. If you lose again, you want to win back the loss. You could only beat bookmakers with a lot of money and discipline. And accept your losses as they are. That's not easy.
Could you believe I did accepted my losses and even quit gambling for like a day or two if I lose significantly when I was addicted, but addiction is even more than not to think about losses and not want to win back losses, once an addict continues to gamble again, he will continue to risk more than he can afford to lose and continue to notice that he plays, win and lose but lose overall. What I have just noticed is to consider all money used for bet as loss and bet with the amount you can be able to afford to lose which makes gambling entertaining.
3418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Budweiser also entered the world of the cryptocurrency Industry on: June 16, 2022, 10:23:12 AM
@ Don Pedro Dinero, TravelMug, Rruchi man, lionheart78, swogerino, dothebeats, Baofeng and aioc

Probably they are not late and the idea is not really bad, but the time for this move it's not the best since we are seeing price collapsing and there is less interest in NFTs respects months ago.
By the way , I think that a well known brand can always tackle the obstacles and could be a good promotion for the whole environment.

I read the news, it was as old as 25th of August 2021, 2022 is almost gone half way and this type of news should be what is trendy. Even if Budweiser NFT is even trendy, that is still an old news which may not contain better accurate information again. Although, if I wshoikd have to contribute, NFTs are just digital tokens that are non fungible just as Bill Gates recently said they are not worth what people are thinking they are worth of, though companies see it as a means to advertise more about their product and to design new NFTs to make profit and nothing more.
3419  Other / Archival / Re: Is the denouement close? on: June 16, 2022, 10:08:48 AM
Therefore, it is definitely wrong to say that the $30,000 support was not strong. Try for the last 5 years to find the same strong support levels that have held for more than a year.
If I remember vividly, bitcoin increased above $30000 during bull market, it reduced to $30000 or around $29800 which always triggered another bull market. Even Chinese FUD crashed the price to $30000, it later increased again and reach all-time-high of $69000. The market was increasing and decreasing but $30000 was the strongest support, but that is during the bull market. When the bulls gone bears, it became otherwise. This year is not for the bulls but but the bears.

When the price falled recently first time below $30000, what happened was very different which did not happen during the bull market, it falled to almost $26000. The reason $30000 is never a strong support again and can not even be considered as support as the price is even falling again below $30000 many times. If I meant $30000 is never a strong support, I am not talking anymore about the bull market period which we are no more at now, we are in the bear period, my analyses is about the bear period and not the bull period, $30000 was not a strong support since like 2 months ago, it became the resistant level which have signalled more bear market. Bitcoin did not that stay above $30000 when it always falled back below $30000 after the crashed from $37500.
3420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you Considered a Career in Betting Consultancy? on: June 16, 2022, 06:47:57 AM
In order for everything to happen as you described, you must be regularly stronger than the bookmakers and have a good public betting history where everyone can see that you are in profit. Do you really think this scenario is likely? In my opinion, this is like talking about how you can make money in poker - you just need to register in the tournament and beat all the other participants. It's real, but unlikely.
It can not happen as he described it, people are only looking for people they can scam or means to earn. Such consultants should be able to gamble and earn themselves without helping anyone in gambling advice and prediction. There would only be people that is using this as an advantage to steal money from people. I am still wondering that some people will hear about this and fall for it and they will lose twice, first from gambling with false predictions, second from the consultants that give them false information
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