That's my guess as well (not utilizing PWM). I'm of course referring to the blue LED fan which is the one that cools the far left (power supply) section of the system.
I guess this fan is not PWM The problem is, that it was reporting the FAN RPM on the 3/21/2013 Firmware. Which strongly implies that it is PWM enabled. It is probably a software/firmware bug. |
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I am having an issue with the latest firmware (3/21/2013). Over the night, the machine has started to enter into a cycle where it is constantly throttling up then down. As if it were resetting itself constantly.
The fan RPM indicators are also giving out strange numbers which don't make any real sense:
Uptime:
1d 11h 33m 48s
Fan 1: 24720
Fan 2: 7440
Fan 3: 18120
Temp (1/2/3/)
(-59,16,-34)
My ambient room temperature is about: 53
I have sent you the logs via PM. I will be doing a hard reset of the machine.
Hmm, interesting. Mine does not report any info for Fan 1. Either it is not connected to a PWM sensor on purpose or not (meaning it fell out during shipment - not likely but possible?) I have the same issue. The FAN 1 is not reporting it's current speed. I wonder if this means it is not utilizing PWM on that particular fan? Xiangfu should have a look into that. |
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Yeah, doesn't look like Avalons are being built on recycled eBay equipment in a small office.
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You know they mean business when they have the Go/Warn/Stop indicator at each station  BFL might have had that too. But I bet 10 months of the 'equipment idle' alarm going continuously got to be annoying.  You are one smart, but evil SOB. (That is a compliment my good sir.) Your knowledge and background put Josh to shame. |
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I am running the test firmware (3/25/2013 Next) as well. Nothing seems amiss at the moment.
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Not hardware related. geesh.
Sorry about that. I think both posts ought to be removed in this food fight. |
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At this point he has been caught in so many lies that I wouldn't believe him if he said it was Friz. If he says it (and if it were false) who would know the difference? I just doubt what he says is true. A while back he said more than one blatant lie and he still went forward and said so. So I think that is personal proof that he is walking talking bullshit on legs. ----------------------------- Now moving on, Yes, he confirmed he is taking 400 chips or about half a wafer. So there you go. Out of the mouth of Josh comes a confirmation about it. |
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He was not working for BFL that time.
So, the thread title ("BFL is keeping...") is false and very misleading.
3c. are any of these orders likely to be part of the 'first batch' shipment from BFL? Some of them are, not all of them. The number that will be in the "first batch" is kind of up in the air at the moment, given the current disposition of our first batch. Since we have a limited number of available chips for the first batch, I will not, in good conscience, be taking a large swath of them. Well, he works there now, and you can argue the difference between "taking" and "keeping", but the fact is, he gets to decide how many he wants to take. How many other customers get to decide, long after placing their order, how many they actually want? Just the guy that works there. No other customer is going to be asked to take less than their total order (Giga ordered 4 Mini-rigs on day 1). Josh is in a fairly unique position in that he'd ordered by 26 June but people are going to be upset if he takes all units he upgraded out of the first batch. Josh is the only customer who's going to be expected to take less from Batch 1 than what he actually ordered. I don't really have anything to add to this, other than what Repentance said. This is just one more lie from one Yajaira D Guevara, aka PueroLibre. If anyone else wants to step up and take a less devices than they've already ordered and paid for, then by all means speak up. Somehow, I suspect, I will be the only person in the world to take less BFL devices than they've already paid for by choice. All of my orders were placed on June 23rd. What's really funny is Yajaira supposedly doesn't have a preorder with BFL, yet he's the most keen on the happenings of BFL. I wonder why that is? Basically everything that comes out of Yajaira's posts are lies. He's been caught in numerous lies and continues to spew them, but hey, whatever. Living in the that he lives in, I would be angry with the world, too.
Joshua R Zerlan 18400 Juniper Ter Gardner, KS Age: 35-39 http://www.411.com/name/Joshua-Zerlan/Kansas-City-MOhttps://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=18400+Juniper+Ter+Gardner,+KS  P.S. Old data....etc etc |
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This thread is simply FUD.
Josh made the IPO of BFLS.RIG in June and ordered part of Minirigs SC in June and another part in July.
He was not working for BFL that time.
He started his work for BFL in August and he clearly stated he wouldn't expand the mining farm (buying additional ASIC devices) apart of fulfilling his obligations (getting what was pre-ordered as an upgrade to replace existing Minirigs and Singles).
He is not going to the start of the queue, he has to wait for his orders' numbers/dates to be ready, like everyone else has. What was cited in OP (Some of them are, not all of them. ...) just confirmed this.
So, the thread title ("BFL is keeping...") is false and very misleading.
Another thing: BFLS.RIG is quite small enterprise - most of the machines in the farm belong to other people (e.g. six rigs are Dark Ice's) and are only hosted by Josh, many of them temporarily. Inaba's part (real BFLS.RIG) is quite smaller.
Where in the queue do you honestly believe Josh is positioned? I have a quarter clue, but I'll wait to hear from others before I announce my guess. RHA, An authoritative answer....considering you don't even know nor seem to have inside knowledge. So go ahead, tell us what the order numbers are and how many there are...? |
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If I were him, I would put my Jobs customers first. The IPO guys within my side hobby and investment already have their FPGA Minirigs to tide them for awhile. My Job's customers have nothing...except ample patience and desperation. Perhaps even some depreciating faith.
I should add, that if he does put his ASIC customers at his job first....then it is almost a no-brainer. If the following is true, the delay for his IPO hardware upgrade is trivial. ---Batch 1 will ship soon. ---Batch 2 will ship soon after that. ---Batch 3 will ship with ample chips to satisfy everyone including his own orders. If any of the above is not true, then it is perhaps best he punch his customers in the gut by taking his IPO upgrade hardware first. If the above is true....then what is a few weeks extra to conduct the IPO hardware related upgrades? Where do you place the priority? |
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Known or not....this is a big FU to every customer in my book. Rather than being honorable and saying..."You know what? I have an order with BFL, <cough> and I will ship my own when every customer to date has his/hers. Sorry for the delays." Lets say he does what you said, and doesn't set aside any chips for the IPO. Now a few customers get their chips a few weeks sooner, and it's a giant FU to all of those who bought into the IPO (which does not include me). There's a limited amount of chips in the first batch. Not everyone can get their chips. Someone has to wait. Do they make the customers wait? The IPO investors? If Josh was getting a free MR just for his own personal profit, then I would be pissed. Well, then there is a question of which is the lie to honor. It's true, he does do a diservice to his IPO customers. But then, they have the FPGA minirigs to tide them over for now. He is directly in charge of the ASIC development project. (I use the term "directly" in a very...technical sense...not to be interpreted literally.) So does his loyalty come first to his IPO clients outside his dealings with BFL (His Employer) ...OR... with his Job as the ASIC developer and coordinator come first? It's a tough call. Hobby or the Job. It appears he has elected to go with his Hobby. -------------------- As for your other question, 400 chips are quite a few Singles, Mini-singles and quite a few Jaly's. If I were him, I would put my Jobs customers first. The IPO guys within my side hobby and investment already have their FPGA Minirigs to tide them for awhile. My Job's customers have nothing...except ample patience and desperation. Perhaps even some depreciating faith. |
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Known or not....this is a big FU to every customer in my book. Things went to hell with BFL's ASICs between June 2012 and March/April 2013. Delay after delay and wafers thrown out the window. Just to put a cherry on top, the guy in charge of handling the schedule for ASICs at his company puts himself ahead of any of his own customers. Rather than being honorable and saying..."You know what? I have an order with BFL, <cough> and I will ship my own when every customer to date has his/hers. Sorry for the delays." Instead he takes a good portion of the wafer, declines to state exactly how much of the wafer he took for himself, and ultimately begins hashing with them (apparently) before anyone else will. Thereby driving the profits into his own pockets and less into that of his customers. The funny part of this is, (and I haven't read it yet), it sounds like he took in money in the form of shares in June 2012 for a device that didn't yet exist. Am I wrong about this? |
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If about 200 ASIC chips per mini rig...then about 400 (IF) he only takes two for himself.
Or about half a wafer of chips from the first batch. Or roughly about 10%.
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Supposedly, he has a conscience. So I assume this means he'd only be taking 2 minirigs worth.
Again I will point out, he stated no BFL employee nor BFL would be using the machines on the network. This flies in direct contradiction of his statements not to mine on the network.
People noticed days ago that there was a huge jump in the hashing rate of his Eclipse mining pool. Consistent with TH/s being added...supposedly. Then followed by someone effectively DDoS'ing his Pool and the BFL website.
How big was the bump in TH/s?? From that you can probably infer how many chips he took for himself.
I can also infer/suspect someone did not like the pool or BFL shotrly after the bump in TH/s...and the mystery DDos seems alot less mysterious....
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I am having an issue with the latest firmware (3/21/2013). Over the night, the machine has started to enter into a cycle where it is constantly throttling up then down. As if it were resetting itself constantly.
The fan RPM indicators are also giving out strange numbers which don't make any real sense:
Uptime:
1d 11h 33m 48s
Fan 1: 24720
Fan 2: 7440
Fan 3: 18120
Temp (1/2/3/)
(-59,16,-34)
My ambient room temperature is about: 53
I have sent you the logs via PM. I will be doing a hard reset of the machine.
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From time to time, I see that it stops hashing. I would like to automate detection and restart and was wondering if anyone had any pointer.
Thanks in advance!
Update to latest firmware that was released recently, which fixes some "stuck" issue and will continue to automatically restart. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon#20130321or you can try the NEXT firmware which is in testing. Is there a change log for the NEXT firmware?By the way, it is running very well (3/21/2013). Edit: My only complaint (not a serious one either) is that the web interface tends to timeout quite often if you are refreshing it frequently. |
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How about BFL customer(s) tell Inaba off and tell him his 1000 chips are/were lost in the 1 wafer escapade that they sacrificed. He doesn't get one, not even 1.
Not only does he get off on saying that customers "pay him" through BFL orders....he also wants a part of the ASIC pie.
Sorry but this goes right back on the heels of him saying the company BFL (or it's peoples) would not be mining with that hardware on the Bitcoin Network....therefore driving up difficulty.
Holy heck, and he dares to call me a liar! Shit, he is the king of all trolls...and then some.
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This is usually where things are starting to set in with the masses. BFL can't really say much because if they "delay" with another announcement they will get a flood of refund requests all at once. At the same time they cant stay quiet forever. Next update from josh will be the same as the rest...."blah blah blah, almost done, bumping, clock buffers, (more excuses), blah blah blah...just wait a little longer"  I believe BFL initially didn't start as a scam but started as a bunch of cowboys with a calculator sitting around a desk discussing possible PROFITs they could make IF they developed a ASIC device capable of delivering the advertized 1.0 to 1.5 TH/s speeds. Now that reality has set in and the process is much too unrealistic to achieve those numbers (in the current state of technology) they are shitting themselves on how to get out of this situation.
SITUATION: They have to deliver a product that they can't make to the specs they advertised. They spent a fuckton of customer preorder money hiring staff, outsourcing every part of the ASIC development, and Adsense advertisements.I've seen this type of situation before, would not surprise me if customers would strung along for another 6 months ...OR...BFL runs. It, super unfortunately, reminds me of bASIC.... We all know how that turned out.....right? |
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Ohhhhh.... Does it work this time? |
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No Kidding! It was a nightmare to put it on. I would be shocked if you managed to put it back on without dropping those support screws/washers many many times. That statement alone proves you've actually done it before. God that was a frustrating experience. I wonder why they made it that way. |
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We should thank BFL for showing us all how NOT to make an ASIC bitcoin miner. LOL....lesson learned for you suckers who put up money 9 months ago for vaporware? Also lesson learned for potential ASIC vendors? I sure hope so. How many of these stupid anti-BFL posts do you need to write? We get it, you think everyone who ordered is stupid. No point in reading and posting every time someone posts in a BF related thread. There is still plenty of time for BF to delivery and still get high earning for customers. Go find some other way to get attention, maybe in real life. Instead of spending every day posting crap that no one wants to hear. If there's anyone opinion that shouldn't matter, its the person who wastes their life posting nothing but mindless garbage in forums all day. There is this new technology called tablets, laptops and smartphones (with internet!). I know, the technology these days just blows your mind. Imagine walking around in life looking at this screen that you tap on...almost like using a PC. Unreal, I know. |
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