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3401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 19, 2014, 01:06:39 AM
As someone who started to purchase Bitcoin at over 5 USD three years ago and watched it drop to 2 USD I find a certain deja vu regarding my current Monero position.

Bought at $3, watched to drop at $2.

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Now if I am correct with Monero with my buy / hold / average down strategy

Even if in the end you did not win, the strategy is correct if it is +EV. I'd wager $100k on a coin toss any day if I'd be paid back 300k. The monero position is about the same size Smiley

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it would not be the first time nor the second time where I have purchased an asset, watched it drop by over 50% held and / or averaged down for huge gains down the road.

Russian stocks 1998: Bought, -75% in 2 weeks, Bought more. (I was about 50% invested, so huge overallocation in an exotic market).

IIRC, they gained about 1000% in a year so I also did quite well.
3402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: November 19, 2014, 12:59:32 AM
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His Majesty is well aware that the land alone is worth more than the whole corporation according to this IPO. However, according to the original agreement, the Noble Palace is a place where even intrigue against His Majesty must be allowed, to have a safety valve for improper feelings. We must reaffirm our decline to participate this great project.

- G12 was recently sold for 120 mil/q, F7 for 125/q, and you can see for yourself that they are not at the center of the map as A1 is.

- Same is happening as with Grand Hotel, which is already trading 55% over IPO price, even after 10% dividends.

- We must hurry with the department of Economics, so that the royal ranting may be moved there, and away from the thread  Cheesy

EDIT: Baron Zechariah will up his ante to 30 mil based on the recent information (above).

EDIT2: It has also come to my attention that the Bishop is taking 90 million and Earl Riccardo is in for 70 million.
3403  Other / Archival / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: November 19, 2014, 12:58:15 AM
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His Majesty is well aware that the land alone is worth more than the whole corporation according to this IPO. However, according to the original agreement, the Noble Palace is a place where even intrigue against His Majesty must be allowed, to have a safety valve for improper feelings. We must reaffirm our decline to participate this great project.

- G12 was recently sold for 120 mil/q, F7 for 125/q, and you can see for yourself that they are not at the center of the map as A1 is.

- Same is happening as with Grand Hotel, which is already trading 55% over IPO price, even after 10% dividends.

- We must hurry with the department of Economics, so that the royal ranting may be moved there, and away from the thread  Cheesy
3404  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: November 18, 2014, 10:42:31 PM
so when does the online version come out?

Most recent target date stated was 11/30 I think.

Yes. It has been changed once, when the online version team got their assignment in order. Originally it was last Sunday.

But don't expect that all will magically be transferred. Some elements of the game (building editor comes to mind) will continue to use the "non-online" methods for months. The greatest differences now happening are:
- easier character administration (can change their own data and trade without admin).
- as a result of the above, unlimited creation of new characters.

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On IRC you asked about what you get for a house.

1. A property you can resell later, potentially at a profit

2. Higher participation in the labor poll (moneritos paid to you each day) as a resident.

1.& 2. The King sold one house for 260 XMR that according to the public building records was erected at a cost of 104 XMR. Money was not "lost" in building a house since they bring income both when owned and when rented. Of course the land whose value had multiplied since building, paid a part in the equation.

3. Also owning a (certain type) of house is a minimum requirement for promotion from L3 (currently) or to L3 (in online version).
3405  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: November 18, 2014, 10:31:42 PM
The building restrictions are strictly adhered to

The town architects reviewed the plans and humbly pointed out that:
- the entrance level restaurant/club is too risky to be windowless. Our methods of lighting cannot make it but barely bearable. Opening a row of windows to the south gallery room is risk free and with thick curtains the club can be sealed dark upon need, but not doomed to be dark when not needed.
- stained glass has just entered the Kingdom, and could be used at a surcharge of 550,000 m/sqm. Perhaps it fits in parts of the windows, maybe the top parts.

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luxury rate of 190%

Now this is impressive. We have a committed defenders against barbarians who are even more after our city now Wink

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second only to HM's own living arrangements

What the King can comfortably spare for the head of a visiting retinue is <100 sqm. So second only is starting to feel a courtesy word here..
3406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 10 lots of 1,000 CK gold each -> 2014-11-10, 20:00 GMT on: November 18, 2014, 10:10:04 PM
Auction #9/11: About 2 days left until the auction ends.

Situation currently:

1,000 @ 0.07  medusa13
2,000 @ 0.06  Master Saddam
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5,000 @ 0.06 reserve


If the auction would end now, the price would be 0.06 XMR/CKG.

The price in the ingame market for small lots is currently 0.0848/0.0752, with the maximum trade of 2,000 gold.
3407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: November 18, 2014, 06:08:46 PM
CK Building Editor / Admin Guide tab has a new, updated Building Cost Calculator. The previous one served a full 50 years!

This is mandatory reading for everyone who designs buildings, and all admins of course who approve them.

Changes in costing:
- Door and staircases are now clearly in different rows according to their quality. The price of carpentry has slightly increased.
- The labor related to windows is not imported anymore and benefits the local economy. Stained glass windows can now be used.
- Gilding is directly supported.
- High arch up to 12 m and cupola are now possible, given appropriate structural design.
- Architect and building inspector fees automatically calculated.
- Luxuries support local economy by 55% instead of 50% before.
- Gives direct inputs to both City Map /BUILDING REGISTRY tab and Characters / T_MON & N_STONE without need for intermediate calculations.

Enjoy! Smiley
3408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 18, 2014, 05:43:28 PM
Yeah, the "point of maximum pain" is already reached, and many have (not) taken it and sold. The others are seeing their old coins as a sunken cost and making new plans for new acquisitions at levels they previously could not imagine.

Like I did not think in June that the 0.0015 wall would ever be needed to rise, much less that it would fill.

I'm sorry ... I disagree.

I know you've been optimistic all the way down from .004 but I just think the emission, anon coin bear market, the large botnets who run the majority of the mining ... it could prop up for a month or two for current investors getting more.  But then continue downward to .001 or less.

I think what we're seeing is one whale buying other whales sell orders.  The miners will continue to overcome those small fry people who are accumulating with the emission curve for a few more months (IMO).  If / when they run out of ammo before getting more people on board I think we could see a massive dump down into the 0007 - 0009 range.

Maybe I'm dreaming ... but if that happens I'll be picking more up.  For now my real world fiat needs are getting taken care of.

Ah, actually we agree. I referred "the point of maximum pain" as emotionally, not that the lowest price had been reached. What I mean is that (imo) hardly anyone is emotionally attached to the uptrend anymore, and could not (and would not) feel any worse if it goes to 0.001, even though the (as big) slides from 0.0045->0.003, 0.003->0.002 or 0.00225->0.0015 felt very nasty. Now if it indeed drops to 0.00075, I don't believe people will feel like jumping the bridge, which they definitely would have felt at 0.004 if presented with 0.002 (and when it did happen).

When price is not going our way, we stick to the fundamentals. Everyone would like GUI, DB, and emission to be fixed, but while they aren't, there is still no viable alternative in the privacy coin segment. If there was, then Monero would have a hard time. Now that the price is having a hard time is just something we have to take as a fact, and act accordingly, buy, sell or hold.

Unlike in previous times, there is now great money to be made in Monero. Percentage moves are large and volume is there. Situation is good for those who have any assets outside their XMR bag currently.



3409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: November 18, 2014, 04:29:42 PM
For this year only the founders IPO rate of share purchases may be made at 1 million moneritos each, 900 shares available total.
Chancellor Smooth and Lord James each have rights of first refusal for 300 shares each, and 300 for the Marquess.

The Lord Baron Dr. Choo and Lord Baron Zechariah have considered their junior position among the Barons (despite the advanced age of Dr. Choo and royal birth of Zechariah, they feel junior to the ones with greater means), and found it fitting to subscribe 15,000,000 moneretos worth of shares (each) of this magnanimous establishment.

May it fulfill the grand goals proclaimed by His Excellency The Marquess, AOD-Maj, AOK-K.
3410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 18, 2014, 03:36:13 PM
Yeah, the "point of maximum pain" is already reached, and many have (not) taken it and sold. The others are seeing their old coins as a sunken cost and making new plans for new acquisitions at levels they previously could not imagine.

Like I did not think in June that the 0.0015 wall would ever be needed to rise, much less that it would fill.
3411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 10 lots of 1,000 CK gold each -> 2014-11-10, 20:00 GMT on: November 18, 2014, 01:32:34 AM
Auction #9/11: About 3 days left until the auction ends.

Situation currently:

2,000 @ 0.06  Master Saddam
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6,000 @ 0.06 reserve


If the auction would end now, the price would be 0.06 XMR/CKG.

The price in the ingame market for small lots is currently 0.0848/0.0752, with the maximum trade of 2,000 gold.
3412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: November 18, 2014, 01:29:28 AM
The 75th Diamond Anniversary of His Majesty's Rightful Rule in the Kingdom of CryptoKingdom and the city of CryptoTown

We look at the bustling city from our roof terrace with pride. In a mere 75 years, it has grown from nothing to be the home of more than 200 characters.

Great building works are completed, and more are in planning. We have decided that the current perimeter will suffice until the Centennary Jubilee, and during the remaining years it will be quite tightly built.

The threat of barbarian invasion looms constantly. Every 2 years, a die is thrown, with 6.25% chance of invasion happening. This threat will go away only at the close of the Centennary Jubilee. When the hordes appear, we only have 2 years to make the final preparations, and then it's the time for battles.

The influx of gold to the royal coffers will be hampered or stop altogether. Staking of stone as well. There will be great costs for raising an army of peasants to fight on the countryside, borne by His Majesty who is the Lord of all the lands apart from the capital. If this does not stop them, the die will decide if the city walls can be held. In this case there will be lots of medals granted to fearless Commanding Officers of our troops.

If a breach in the wall is made, we can still fight in the city, but that will be not only bloody but also very costly due to our beautiful and luxurious buildings. If this happens, an online conference in IRC will be summoned and we must decide whether to ransom away the barbarians or let them loot the city. The die will decide the amount of the gold ransom asked. If we can find the payers, very good. If not, the city is sacked and all the great buildings will be stripped of their luxuries, and this deficit marked in the BUILDING REGISTRY. If the luxury level is not repaired in due time, the buildings will stay permanently in the lower level.

The importance of Citadel is twofold. Having it in good condition terrifies the barbarians and keeps the probability of attack low. Unless it is improved, the probability will go up. Also the Citadel can be used to host our gold and (hopefully) people during the negotiations, and will lead to lower ransom demand. It is not likely that the barbarians can take the citadel with cannons and Zenon's apparata protecting it.

The online version will be ready in 13 days (just wanted to say it Smiley )

Lord smooth, Chancellor of the University is created Earl. "The Earl of CryptoLuna has been chosen from among his peers to be raised to landed nobility due to his good works and to commemorate this auspicious occasion."

To celebrate the Jubilee and strengthen the willingness to defend the capital (and not only their own lands), we gifted 200,000,000 m to the peasants, and 25% of it they will spend on the services of our town, for a nice boost to the corresponding pool.

We also conducted negotiations whether the peasants could sell more stone to their fixed price of 100 m, but they regarded this as insulteous. They know that stone is much more prized, but we cannot change what reads in the rulebook under "This cannot be changed".

Anyway, since stone is all they have, they gifted us back 200,000 stone.

The Army is now a separate accounting unit. His Majesty stone income of about 300,000 stone biennially, will from now on be diverted to the army (until the threat abates) as follows:

- Directly 200,000 stone is taken (for a cool 65% defence spending..) and deposited to the Army.
- The Army is willing to sell this stone for that day only, 40,000 stone for 10 million. Lots only. Maximum 200k until sold out (price per stone 250 m).
- The proceeds will be used for defence improvements and maintenance of the soldiers.
- When hopefully stone is some day left unsold, it will be earmarked for building the Citadel.

It is fitting to announce this good news, although it does not relate to the Jubilee per se: A few years ago, the Town was selling land in the C chapelry and promised that 10% of the proceeds will be raffled out to one character. We raised 2,200,000,000 m from this land, so a cool 220,000,000 m is now raffled out....

.....and the winner is: Lord Karl. Congratulations! Lord Karl has been the largest buyer of these lands, so it is Lady Fortuna's joke to refund him such handsomely.  Smiley

The new admins should be taking their positions very quickly. What I need is the email address so that I can give the admin rights. What you need is to familiarize yourself with the Building Editor/Admin tab.


3413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 10 lots of 1,000 CK gold each -> 2014-11-10, 20:00 GMT on: November 17, 2014, 11:59:18 PM
Auction #9/11: About 3 days left until the auction ends.

Situation currently:

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8,000 @ 0.06 reserve


If the auction would end now, the price would be 0.06 XMR/CKG.

The price in the ingame market for small lots is currently 0.0848/0.0752, with the maximum trade of 2,000 gold.


Note to all: It does not make any sense to bid the lowest possible amount. The only thing that it causes to happen is that you miss out more easily. The price in the auction is same for everyone, and it is the highest non-winning bid. This auction method is specially designed to eliminate any benefit from underbidding, and indeed there are none. So please do yourself a favor, consider what is the highest price you are willing to pay, and bid that amount. No need to check back, and you never pay more than the market rate, and are the first in line to receive the gold.
3414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 10 lots of 1,000 CK gold each -> 2014-11-20, 21:00 GMT on: November 17, 2014, 11:51:07 PM
As part of the HM The King's gold sales, mandated by the rules, 8 lots of 1,000 units of CK gold each, will be offered for auction.

This auction is #9 of the 11 planned.

The bids are to be given in the following format: "quantity @ price (XMR)". For example "2,000 @ 0.15".

The minimum bid is 0.06. No more than 2 decimals.

Auction #1 closed at 0.26 (10,000 gold sold).
Auction #2 closed at 0.23 (11,000 gold sold).
Auction #3 closed at 0.23 (16,000 gold sold).
Auction #4 closed at 0.19 (10,000 gold sold).
Auction #5 closed at 0.15 (3,000 gold sold).
Auction #6 closed at 0.12 (13,000 gold sold).
Auction #7 closed at 0.10 (14,000 gold sold).
Auction #8 closed at 0.08 (10,000 gold sold).


Higher bid wins over lower one, earlier bid wins over later one, and all winners pay the same amount per lot (the price of the highest non-winning bid).

It is possible that the King adds more gold for sale to this auction. Should this happen, some of the bids that have already dropped below the winline may be raised back above the winline. It is therefore possible to cancel bids IFF you make a higher bid for the same or higher amount. The possible canceling of the lower bid must be done simultaneously with the placing of the higher bid.

The right to participate in the auction is limited as follows:
- if it is not legal for you to do so, cannot participate
- negative trust rating, cannot participate
- Full Members or lower, limited to 1 lot
- Senior Members or higher, or existing players of the game, limited to 10 lots.

The winners who are already not characters, will be created characters in the game after they pay for the gold and supply the character stats (age, sex, nick).

Auction closes 9 pm GMT Thursday, BCT server time, or 3 minutes after the last winning bid (in case a winning bid was submitted during the last 3 minutes, the auction lasts as long as there are no new winning bids submitted in 3 minutes since the previous one).

Gold bought in this auction must be paid in 24 hours after receiving the payment instructions in monero (XMR). The payment instructions will be sent to you in a PM. XMR can be bought with BTC here. Non-payment is considered default and results in forfeiture of game assets, or denial to enter the game at a later time, as well as loss of reputation and trust rating. Characters in the game are automatically billed the gold from their moneretos account, and they need to take care of the deposit themselves.

HM The King reserves the right to make clarifications.
3415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 10 lots of 1,000 CK gold each -> 2014-11-10, 20:00 GMT on: November 17, 2014, 11:45:24 PM
Auction #8/11: Auction has ended.

Situation currently:

4,000 @ 0.10 Lord Karl
3,000 @ 0.09 The Marquess of New Liberty
1,000 @ 0.09 kronicblazer
2,000 @ 0.08 saddambitcoin
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1,000 @ 0.08 Jacket


The price in the auction was 0.08 XMR/CKG. 10,000 gold was sold.
3416  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 17, 2014, 11:41:27 PM
there are plenty of bleep coins with beautiful wallets and their marketcaps are below 1 million usd.

A low market cap does not make a coin desirable. The contrary, actually. If any of the other CN coins would take over XMR marketcap, then it would be really bad.

I can't see it happening though since their community is smaller, and all the devs are in XMR. Just stated the fact.

Taking over DRK would indeed be a good thing.

Regardless of what is decided concerning the emission, I am staying with XMR. The fundamentals are still on its side, since there are no serious contenders in the true privacy niche.

The price is so cheap that buying more starts to be a real option Smiley Investing 1% more of my wealth to XMR at these prices is quite many coins  Grin
3417  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 10 lots of 1,000 CK gold each -> 2014-11-10, 20:00 GMT on: November 17, 2014, 08:26:04 PM
Auction #8/11: About 30 minutes left until the auction ends.

Situation currently:

4,000 @ 0.10 Lord Karl
3,000 @ 0.09 The Marquess of New Liberty
1,000 @ 0.09 kronicblazer
2,000 @ 0.08 saddambitcoin
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1,000 @ 0.08 Jacket


If the auction would end now, the price would be 0.08 XMR/CKG.
3418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: November 17, 2014, 07:49:34 PM
Gold auction

Only 1 hours to go, and gold is fetching 0.08 XMR/CKG. Quite a bargain, tbh Smiley

Admins!

HM The King   AOK-GM (General Administrator)
The Marquess   AOK-K (Administrator)
The Bishop     AOK-K (Administrator)
Lord smooth   AOK-K (Administrator)
Lord Luigi     AOK-K (Administrator)
Dame Roopatra   AOK-K (Administrator)
Knight Febo   AOK-K (Administrator)

The people above are now Administrators, and they can perform database entries. Please use the IRC group to ask for Admins. Not all of them can do all atm, but they will learn quickly.

The building inspection/permit fee is now determined by free market. We thought that 4 mil is a reasonable fee, but since the work is honestly quite tedious, and takes a long time, HM fee is raised to 8 mil, so that the others could provide the service cheaper if possible.

HM architect fee is also 25% and special assignments only. Please ask beforehand if you feel that we should design for a reduced price or for nothing. The highish price is to make room for others to do designing also.

Army/Citadel plea

Citadel has been under construction for 25 years, and still does not have much except the bases of the outside wall (outside wall is intended to be 10 m and is now 6 m high, in addition we need the garrisons, etc. and the central castle. You can now donate directly to the Army, everything is accepted, stone the most Smiley Far be it from us that the officer promotions would depend on the beneficence, though...

Hotel licences

As should be known to those in the hospitality industry, the hotels need a licence to operate. This should ensure their profitability. Currently we have kind of promised 2 licenses to ***** Noble Palace and **** Luigi's (unnamed).

After these are constructed, and it should happen soon for the promise to be in effect, we deem that no new magnificent hotels are needed for some time. Guesthouses and *** hotels may be had without limit.

City Area

The current city area is beginning to feel crowded, but we are so afraid of barbarians that we are thinking to not increase the area until in the online version after the centennary Jubilee. If this will cause the price of land to increase, at least our Majesty is not among the beneficiaries, since we have practically no land left for sale. This can be ascertained from the City Map/Land Grab tab. Please if you feel you can do without a certain piece of land, list it for sale via smooth's RE agency.

Building regulations

Many have felt that in the "Cathedral quarter" the buildings should rise to maximum height of 16 m due to the Cathedral towers being 17 m. So now be it official.

The max height in everywhere else is technically 20 m. I can't recall any structure being that high, except the Royal Palace tower, and the (topmost parts of the) planned Luigi's shopping centre in the opposite side of the square. And yes the obelisk that has a 4 m high pedestal, plus the construction of 17 m, with the total height of 21 m.
3419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 10 lots of 1,000 CK gold each -> 2014-11-10, 20:00 GMT on: November 17, 2014, 06:50:15 PM
Auction #8/11: About 2 hours left until the auction ends.

Situation currently:

4,000 @ 0.10 Karl Hungus
2,000 @ 0.08 saddambitcoin
1,000 @ 0.08 Jacket
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3,000 @ 0.08 reserve


If the auction would end now, the price would be 0.08 XMR/CKG.
3420  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 17, 2014, 02:03:08 PM

Due to Monero's slide, it's become smaller and smaller percent of my portfolio, and I am only one of the quite many (some of whom I know, some of whose existence I know without knowing the identity) people who make calculated bets with Monero. It's even frustrating to be one (or even The) main cheerleader, when bigger players exist in the shadows and sidelines.

So yes, it is still in whale hands. Bagholder-whale hands  Grin

Time to rebalance that portfolio, don't ya think? Something a la The Permanent Portfolio (Harry Browne)? Wink

Buy more XMR? It must have escaped your notice that I just bought 50k today  Grin
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