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3401  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 24, 2023, 01:16:19 PM
With only one win in the last 5 matches, Werder Bremen is stuck in 12th position and is likely to drop again in this week's match because their opponent is Leverkusen. We know that the difference in quality between the two teams is very different and of course Leverkusen will continue to target another win in this match tomorrow. It seems that Werder Bremen will still have a minor trend this week, but if they can hold on to a draw like the previous few meetings with Leverkusen then at least they will still get one very important additional point. Well, what is certain is that this will be quite an interesting match, especially as there will be more than 2 goals scored.

Yes they can only win one win two defeats and the rest are draws in their last five matches, that's very bad and in addition as you said that indeed this weekend Wender Bremen must face a very strong squad and who are at the top of the table, I think that although any result can happen at the end of the match but I think if they have to face Leverkusen it is very difficult to be able to achieve a pretty good result or even a draw.

This season it looks like Wender Bremen is far from lucky, has fallen down the stairs and is more likely to happen, yes I agree with you that most likely they will go back down, don't ask again because the performance of these two teams is very different and maybe on the other hand this is a match that will be greatly utilized by Leverkusen to get the full three points to be a little further from the pursuit of Bayern Munich. Honestly, I will not put too much hope on Wender Bremen, and maybe they only need full luck in that match to at least achieve a pretty good result.
3402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings. on: November 24, 2023, 12:56:33 PM
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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Correct. As long as it is your own money you spend on gambling it is none of other peoples business anymore. You are the boss of your own winnings. You decide on what is good for you and your bets. Whether you want to share giveaways with other gamblers or not it is always up to you.

So why then should anyone be demanding for a share in the winnings when they don't have any direct connection to the winning or have committed any finances while the gambler takes the risk to win the amount,  so regardless one needs to be determined to remain focused and not be at obligation to give them any share.

It makes sense, basically there are absolutely no rules that tell them (gamblers) to share the results of their winnings and in my opinion it might come back to themselves, if they care enough about other people, especially some of their friends then it doesn't matter in my opinion if they really want to share a small part of their winnings as long as the will comes out of themselves and there is no encouragement or  coercion from others. I'm a gambler who sometimes likes to share a small portion of my winnings with my close friends, but I don't just give it away and I  will choose one of my friends who is good enough to me in the real world or I mean it can be said to be a true friend and not come just for profit. With that I wouldn't mind giving them.

But on the other hand it is true as you said they have the right to claim the right of my winnings if indeed they participated in the gambling that I did, whether they provided additional funds for me to gamble or maybe they provided a way that happened to be quite working at that time, if that is the case then obviously I think I will not mind giving them a portion of my winnings even though maybe they are not one of my true friends.
3403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has anyone been able to make steady income with gambling ? on: November 24, 2023, 12:37:34 PM
People who have a healthy mindset they gamble with the aim of just filling empty time when off work for entertainment when bored, only a small amount they allocate, that's what should be done and with that then I think you will stay safe and comfortable.

more gamblers do not practice that way. although basically gambling games are intended for fun. But still, many gamblers are ambitious to make a profit.
and that's the mistake when they win easily, they start thinking about making gambling a source of income. That is also what many gamblers fall into and end up losing more due to uncontrolled gambling activities.

One of the things that makes it difficult for them to do gambling properly is because most people know gambling with the wrong understanding such as for example there is a chance of winning there and as proof they see many other people or even friends  around them who get a big jackpot, which is why it is difficult for them to come with the right mindset, usually yes of course they come because  of the temptation that is tantalizing in addition to the encouragement of curiosity that is in their minds, which is why more are down than those who remain fine.

Basically no one  indicates the best in gambling, any result whether it wins or loses will still be a big problem in the end, for example you have managed to get the winnings according to what you want but the question is whether you will end there? no friend, I say that is the beginning of the involvement of the worse of them, who doesn't like money and who  doesn't like it if they get money for free? so that's the simple thing is if you win then you will be addicted and if you lose then you will be curious, that's the cycle that happens to every gambler.
3404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Question for those who loose too frequently in gambling on: November 24, 2023, 12:16:51 PM
Oh yes if that's what you mean, and I also apologize if I misunderstood your statement, but let's just forget that we continue to discuss that where it is true of all gamblers I am also very sure that  the percentage of defeat is much higher than victory, which is why more people suffer defeat or even cause many problems in their real lives such as stress, depression or debt, usually it will happen to those who have entered the addiction phase with a high level. So the point is to stay normal in looking at gambling, meaning don't overdo it, after all this is also just an activity that depends on luck alone, if you are lucky then you will win, don't let you think about increasing your gambling time  because it will not always close the possibility or mean that it cannot increase your percentage of luck to be higher, but on the contrary, your luck is even more.
Thank you for your understanding. Oh yes, for those who have lost a lot of money and experienced stress, depression and frustration, it will never be easy to forget what they have experienced because it requires acceptance of everything and starting to get up again from the beginning. Not many people are able to do it because getting up from scratch again requires energy and a strong will from within to improve what they have done and cause many serious problems in their lives. Those who have experienced a lot of losses in gambling should also start to introspect on what needs to be improved if they want to fix their mistakes. And that's why we can only use gambling as entertainment and not overdo it in gambling so that we don't experience serious problems as many people have experienced.

And it should be with such bitter events that they should be able to realize that indeed it is a bad thing that they experience as a result of reckless gambling, they should be able to make it a bitter experience that they must make a lesson not to repeat the same thing in the future. The first thing they should do is self-introspection as you said and also besides that try to realize that indeed this is a big problem that makes them down and causes a lot of problems in their lives, especially in terms of their finances.

Honestly, in such conditions, in my opinion, it is still unknown or certain whether they will be able to realize and correct their mistakes or even on the contrary they will even get worse with the intention of revenge in gambling, because it is not uncommon for me to see some of them who are very emotional and do not accept the results that are always not in accordance with what they expect at the end of the session and after that they finally take actions out of control such as for example selling one of their valuable assets or vehicles to put a larger amount with a higher level of emotion and hope than before. I think out of 100%, maybe only 40% of people will be able to realize and fix everything so that they don't fall into the same hole.
3405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 24, 2023, 11:56:57 AM
Yes, they seem to be motivated by some of the victories achieved by others, so that makes them very ambitious to get the same fate, they assume that it turns out that only by gambling they can get a victory like others, the problem here is that they only see the victory of others but do not ask how many defeats the person has suffered, I'm sure if they ask them they will at least be quite surprised because it turns out that the person has to sacrifice a lot of defeats first just to get the occasional victory. I think it's because they are too eager to see the chances of winning that they forget that there are greater risks that they never expected. Their mindset is very contrary to the actual concept of gambling and also to the facts that usually occur, they should gamble with the intention of nothing more than just entertainment, with that then I think nothing will happen to them - things that are not wanted. Yes gambling is absolutely not a place to make money, it's okay if you want to do that but on the condition that you have to be prepared for all the downturns, this is not a business that has a more definite chance if you work hard, still the final result always depends on your luck, I think only losers have that kind of mindset.
If they think that just by gambling, they can win, they should be prepared to experience disappointment because gambling will not bring them wins very often so they should understand that. Other people get their wins because they are really lucky and deserve to get it, while we haven't been able to get the luck we want but that doesn't mean we can use gambling more often. Without good self-control, we will only experience defeat more often and will not be able to win like other people do. So we have to know ourselves and just gamble as usual to get pleasure and after we have finished or have had pleasure, we must be able to stop gambling immediately. And we also don't deserve to use a lot of money to win, especially if we still need that money to meet our daily needs. That is why we have to have a good mindset so as not to use gambling as a way to make money, especially as we have seen many people who have experienced defeats without being able to recover from their losses because they continue to experience bigger losses.

But on the other hand they don't know that there are downturns or unexpected things that are waiting for them ahead, but yes on the other hand I'm sure it doesn't mean they don't fully know about the bad effects that will befall them, surely they have also heard of some people who have experienced problems as a result of gambling, but the problem is that they are too ambitious and have high hopes for victory so that they seem to think that the bad effects that will befall them like nothing or they don't think too much about it. Yes, maybe at that moment the other person was really lucky, and as I said before, I'm sure that person must have sacrificed many defeats just to get that one victory. Not applying self-control does not mean we can't win, it doesn't matter if you don't want to apply self-control but as long as you are ready for all the risks you will receive including the number of unexpected defeats. That is the importance of self-control because with it, you will not suffer too much defeat. Yes, it should be like that if they have gotten pleasure or even victory then they should stop, because it is also for their safety, but yes it is not easy my friend, the temptation there is very large.

In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you're going to want to make sure that you've got a good understanding of what you're doing and what you're doing. For  people who are willing to spend a lot of money just to win, I honestly don't understand what they are thinking, even though it is clear that their intention is to get a win but strangely enough defeat seems like no problem even though if you count it maybe the amount is very large and also not necessarily if they win later the amount of victory can cover the defeat that has been sacrificed. Therefore, the point is not to expect something that is difficult to achieve, after all, casinos make gambling not to give money for free to you, they also want to make a profit, which is why many suffer defeat, we must learn from the downturn of others so that we also do not get into the same hole.
If we have a lot of free time, we shouldn't use that time to gamble, especially with the risk of losing a lot, so we should be able to think about what we can do in that free time and not just gamble. Indeed, we can use gambling to fill our free time and win, but we have to remember that we can also experience losses so we don't need to gamble all day. Those who often gamble will not understand that they have experienced a lot of losses and it is time to take a break to reduce their tension. If they win, they should also be able to calculate how much their winnings can cover the losses they have incurred. But the number of wins is still smaller than the number of losses. If we can understand that gambling is just entertainment, we will only try to get pleasure from gambling and will not gamble too often. We must be wise gamblers so that we can control ourselves well and avoid losing a lot.

Yes that's right, basically there are still quite a lot of other activities that are also fun but not risky, they can go to tourist attractions with family or friends or do other activities that are quite fun but positive or like gardening behind the house. Honestly for myself if I am in a boring condition then I prefer to watch movies or play games, not that I don't want to gamble but in that condition I maximize to resist the temptation and curiosity that is in my mind, I am already quite bored when I see the final results that are always disappointing, therefore the first step when I am bored I immediately open one of the games on my cellphone or watch fil, with that then I will forget about gambling. I think one of the reasons why they don't seem to care too much about losing is because their expectations are too high to get a win when in fact in every session the results are always disappointing, but yes basically it is difficult to be able to give advice like that to them, and maybe we can just let it go, I'm sure over time they will definitely be able to realize their mistakes, especially when they have experienced the bitterest thing in their gambling, so maybe it's just a matter of time that will answer it.
3406  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 23, 2023, 03:49:14 PM
Trying to understand the clubs in Ligue 1 is difficult for me, I mean why do they falter so easily or in other words their consistency is so quickly lost when entering a new season. I think it's normal for players to come and go, but in reality it's not normal for that to happen at a Ligue 1 club. It's different when looking at La Liga and the Premier League for example, their consistency can still be said to be balanced when the season changes, yes although there are some clubs that also experience a significant decline.
What do you think caused that to happen in Ligue 1?
Their players already moved to other clubs, that's why there are so many ups and downs in this league except PSG. PSG is the only one rich club in this league, there's no club can compete against them. So if PSG isn't become a champion, it's really a big joke when they have every choices but get defeated with a club with limited choices.

Lyon is the most interesting club, they were good but now they're currently at the bottom lol.
I understand that and I've said before that player departures are very normal. I know their budget isn't as big as Paris Saint Germain's, but can't they sign players of the same quality as those who have left? I think they can. But the problem is, as I said at the beginning, why then are they always different every season. They can't show something that they showed in the previous season. If so I can conclude that they failed in recruiting new players, because looking at what happened I saw that way.
3407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 23, 2023, 03:26:13 PM
Bayern Munich are surely expected to do much more than the previous season. Because especially after Harry Kane's arrival there is a big difference in this team. I wouldn't like to overlook Tuchel of course don't get me wrong. He is also able to apply his system successfully after being given some more time.

Now Bayern Munich should technically be able to be competitive in the Champions League as well. But so far I'm not convinced with what I have seen from them. But maybe they are keeping their best performance to later rounds who knows.  Smiley
I've been waiting for a long time for a club that can break Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga, and this season there is a club that I hope can make that happen, yes that is Leverkusen. Actually last season also UNion Berlin could appear and be at the top of the standings for some time, but over time, they also declined and in the end they were also successfully shifted by Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund.
Leverkusen must learn from the previous club where they could not maintain their consistency, because the same thing they might feel. They must anticipate things like this.
3408  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 23, 2023, 03:10:42 PM
Manchester United needs to probe their scout department and most times I begin to think that the scout reaches some agreement with these old players before the bring them to the club. I cannot say much about it but there is alot of suspicion in their activities.
Every team have 1-2 problems they're facing this season. Manchester United is no longer the Red Devils I'm acquainted with because there are heavy blunders coming from the players, some playing like amateur which is absolutely unprofessional. The scout department do have alot of activities to handle this season, they have top duties to scout promising players in the market, players that can lead the club to glory next season. I would rather rate their works this season as poor because the players signed are yet to prove themselves in the crucial moments of the club.
Yes I agree with that, that they are not the club I knew a few years ago when they were in their heyday. Even now I see them being used as an opportunity for arguably weaker clubs to steal points from them. Of course it's the opposite, where once they were a very feared and terrible club, now they are like a club that has no direction. It's a very clear decline that we see from them.
I cannot blame one party in this case, because the components related to Manchester United must be responsible, or in other words they must think about how to restore their lost identity.
3409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: November 23, 2023, 02:55:28 PM
Real Betis are through last 16 round once again indeed. It has become pretty much a habit for them in the recent years as well. Because they were able to achieve the same success in the previous two seasons too. However in none of them they were able to make it to upper rounds. We will see whether they can do it this time.

But they were really unlucky with draws in both of those seasons at the same time. In the previous season they faced Manchester United in their good times and the Red Devils destroyed them. Before that season they faced Frankfurt which ended up being the champions too.  Grin
Yes it's nothing new when Real Betis can do a good job in the group stages, but once they get past the group stages, in the next rounds they really struggle to go further in the Europa League. I don't know what they can do with this season, maybe they can do better, or they do the same thing as the previous season.
Maybe one of the factors that will make them go further is how the draw will be. Yes, it will be crucial for their journey, because if they get an opponent that is easier on paper, then their chances will also be greater.
3410  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 23, 2023, 02:40:15 PM
~snip~
The last few years Brazil has shown a decline, but if we look into the composition of the actual players they are inhabited by many very qualified players, but when they play for Brazil it seems they lose their identity and do not play optimally. I don't know for sure what exactly the problem they face.
But this is not something new in football, England, Germany or even Spain have experienced the same thing.
Next year they will certainly be working with Ancelotti and I hope that will be a turning point where they will rediscover their true selves.

In the last qualifications, for Qatar, Brazil qualified first without losing a single match.

I wouldn't call that a decline  Grin
Yes you are right, but what I want to emphasize is the whole picture. Maybe if we look at their success in qualifying for Qatar smoothly it was a success for them, but we also can't look at just because they were successful at that time because in reality they also couldn't make it to the semifinals at that time because they had to be defeated by Croatia.
When I see a club or a country play, I look at the whole picture, and when I look at Brazil, despite them qualifying well, overall I don't see them showing their true colors.
3411  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 23, 2023, 02:25:35 PM
Trying to understand the clubs in Ligue 1 is difficult for me, I mean why do they falter so easily or in other words their consistency is so quickly lost when entering a new season. I think it's normal for players to come and go, but in reality it's not normal for that to happen at a Ligue 1 club. It's different when looking at La Liga and the Premier League for example, their consistency can still be said to be balanced when the season changes, yes although there are some clubs that also experience a significant decline.
What do you think caused that to happen in Ligue 1?
3412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 23, 2023, 02:08:24 PM
As we can see Girona took advantage of the momentum well. So Girona steps in La Liga are very well calculated. They know that no club can interfere in Real Madrid and Barcelona eternal rivalry in La Liga so what Girona can do is take advantage of the situation. Girona could lose to both clubs but the probability with the other club is actually higher. So this gives Girona a breath of fresh air sacrificing matches against Barcelona and Madrid but on the other hand they are fighting for big opportunities with the remaining clubs. For me, Girona strategy has been quite effective so far, with the result of 13 matches and one loss being a big achievement.
Your point is very valid and I think it's exactly the strategy Girona has been using since this season because, on a second taught, if they win every other team and loose to only either of Barcelona or Real Madrid, they will still continually climb and maintain the top position on the table,

The only time it could really cost them may be toward the end of the season if they point happens to be all they will need to rank up the table. At that point they will need to win but then I just hope their consistency is enough to keep them going and if the only challenge they have happens to be just this two teams then they don't have much issues because the challenge will have Little effect on them and in worse case they will qualify for champions league buy they can be sure to finish top four
We're still questioning whether or not they'll be able to be consistent until the end of the season, and that's only natural given the length of the competition. And in that very long time, we all know that there are always problems faced by the club, such as a storm of injuries for example.
Right now, Real Madrid and Barcelona have felt this way, where their plyers one by one have to pull over because of their injuries. This will also very likely happen to Girona. Now I don't know how strong the depth of their current squad is, because until now most of their matches have always been able to play their mainstay players.
3413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 23, 2023, 01:53:15 PM


We are too busy talking about group F and forget that group H is also an interesting group. As we know, Barcelona lost against Shakhtar and that also dashed Barcelona's hopes of qualifying for the round of 16 early. Now Barcelona and Porto have the same 9 points and this will be an exciting competition considering that anyone can win the group with two matches remaining.

However, that's actually not the main point, but Shakhtar, who currently has 6 points, could shift one of the places at the top of Group H because they will play Antwerp (who obviously didn't qualify) and they will definitely get 3 additional points. After that Shakstar will play Porto in the last match and if they do well then Shakstar will collect 12 points. Barcelona and Porto must be careful if they don't want to lose their current place. Wink
Anything can still happen, both Barcelona and Porto need to maximize in their last 2 matches, or at least win 1 more match to ensure they are in the last 16 and qualify from this group.
Shakthar is really worrying for the two clubs above them, because once I 2 clubs make a mistake, then they will be punished by Shaktar. They must be really focused if they want 1 ticket in their hands.
With this kind of competition, it's very interesting for me and I'm looking forward to their last 2 matches. Will there be any surprises?
3414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: November 23, 2023, 01:37:17 PM
From what I have heard, Messi was initially willing to consider the offer from Saudi Arabia. But his wife was vehemently against any such move and in the end he chose MLS over Saudi Professional League. Although the MLS contract guarantees him a fat paycheck, it is nowhere near lucrative as a potential SPL contract could have been. Messi had a chance of becoming a billionaire, and he just outright rejected that offer. Maybe he will regret his decision later in his life, but for now his focus is on MLS and on the CONMEBOL qualifiers.
Because of his wife, Messi didn't go to SPL and chose MLS. That is one of the reasons we get from media reports. The media has provided various information regarding Messi's failure to play in the Saudi Pro League, but until now none of it has been confirmed.
It is true that if Messi accepts the offer to play in the SPL, the Argentine national team captain will be the richest player along with Ronaldo. Apart from that, if Messi joins the Saudi Pro League club, it will give the Saudi Pro League a high rating from fans.
Let's say family reasons are a consideration for Messi finally preferring MLS to SPL, but for me personally see there may be other reasons that cannot be said to the public. But family is indeed a lot of reasons that many players use which in the end the player prefers to follow the will of his family, especially with his old age and in the not too distant future will certainly announce to retire it will be a very logical reason from the player.
But wherever they are, the fact is that Messi and Ronaldo are currently still the talk of the fans about their performances at their respective clubs.
3415  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 23, 2023, 01:22:29 PM

Lukaku is a productive striker, especially when he plays in Serie A. Moreover, if he is in a good shape, he probably contributes well for AS Roma. I can agree that AS Roma is the favorite to win the match, Lukaku will be one of the factor of it. I hope AS Roma will get 3 points and they are trying to compete for the top 5 at the table.



Lukaku is a very strong player, its a shame Juventus couldnt find a way to get him.
I am still saying bad words to Juventus managers, he would have been perfect for my beloved team.
And as you can all see, I was right in wanting him in the team, he is in perfect shape.
Yes, the style of play in Serie A matches his style of play, so that when he is here his abilities can be seen, unlike when he was at Chelsea for example his abilities were not seen at all, yes it was apart from the injuries he experienced too. But we can see how he was at Chelsea, brought in from Inter Milan at a very expensive cost he could be said to be one of the failed purchases or transfers made by Chelsea, considering the contribution he made was minimal, not even able to make a good change for Chelsea.
3416  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 23, 2023, 12:05:03 PM
It looks like this week Burnley doesn't have a chance to win because their next opponent is West Ham. Vincent Kompany's squad continues to experience defeat every week and places them in the bottom position by only collecting 4 points from the 12 matches they have played. As an EPL promotion team this season, of course these results are very bad and they will likely be relegated if they don't win again. West Ham, led by David Moyes, will try to continue its winning trend after previously managing to beat Nottingham with a score of 3-2. This will also be West Ham's comeback after in the last 5 matches they were only able to achieve 1 win.
This is the Premier League and everything is possible, nobody believes that Bournemouth could beat Newcastle United with a 2-goal difference. Burnley is playing at home against Westham United and if they play well they can beat Westham United or get a draw from them. Burnley should not be underestimated because they will fight for points to get out of the relegation zone.

Yes, it was a very good result achieved by Bournemouth in the match against Newcastle, I agree with you that surely this result was never expected, how could a team that was almost in the relegation zone like Bournemouth be able to beat Newcastle by winning the full three points. And yes we come back again that this is the Premier League, as you said that any result is very possible at the end of the match, not only that, previously we have seen that Chelsea also surprised by beating Tottenham with a landslide score and after that they could also balance the match with Manchester City as a very strong squad in the Premier League, this season is indeed more interesting and many surprises from some weak teams.

Burnley are at the bottom of the table which means their performance this season is very bad, and I will not underestimate them too much because it is clear that if we reflect on some other weak clubs like Chelsea or Bournemouth which turned out to be able to achieve surprising results against teams far above them, and with that then I think it will not rule out the possibility that Burnley has the possibility to be able to achieve a pretty good result in the match against West Ham later. But that's just a prediction and for the rest we'll see if Burnley can have the same luck as other weak teams in this match.
3417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings. on: November 23, 2023, 11:35:07 AM
I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.
That's why it's better not to normalize being too generous in giving back to other people once you win in gambling unless you owe that person. You can share your winning as an act of appreciation to those person who always there for you and help you while you're struggling in your gambling era but not to the person you're normally playing with. Let's normalize enjoying the money and things that we have without  feeling obligated to give/ share it back to others.

There’s no way to set what’s normal now since this is already a customary from a long time ago tradition. Gambling discreetly is the best solution to avoid this instead of change the normal reaction of people since it’s impossible to change other people perspective.

Besides, Online casino is now already popular which gives us convenience on gambling at home without sharing others your win. But in my opinion, it’s really not bad sharing some money if you win because I regularly do rain drop on casino chat wheneverI win huge amount just for my self satisfaction.

In the event that you're looking to get a new home, you'll want to look at a few of the things you can do to make sure that you're getting the most out of your new home. I think it's no problem to do as long as you are sincere to give a small portion of your winnings, don't let something that should be a binding force for a stronger relationship become a problem, on the other hand you also have to look first at the person you want to share. For me personally, honestly, I prefer to share my winnings with people who are also good to me in any way, it's like a little sign of gratitude because they have been good to us, no problem.

But yes it all comes back to you because it's your right if you want to share then go ahead but if you really don't want to share at all then I agree with your opinion that it's better for you to gamble secretly so that if you get a win other people around you won't know about it. I see now that people participate more in online casinos than physical ones, and I admit that it is more practical, and it will be able to help you to gamble secretly.
3418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has anyone been able to make steady income with gambling ? on: November 23, 2023, 11:15:19 AM
Has anyone been able to make steady income with gambling ? If yes, what had been your strategy ? Do you diversify to multiple games in order to ensure that end result is always profit ?

I personally feel that there are very less chances of making a steady income with gambling. In fact, if you win a big amount in gambling, from there on , you should play games with less on stake and keep the winnings invested in some good option like crypto. It is important to have self control to end profitably with gambling ventures online. Do you agree with this ?

Gambling is risky and depending on it as a source of income is even more riskier, because if you carry out a feasibility study of gambling experiences, you'll find out that the chances of losing is far greater than winnings. So with that fact in mind you'll find out that it won't be a wise decision to depend on gambling as a source of income, because you don't plan your survival on something that depends on luck to materialize.

Gambling should be for fun, a place where you can go to thrill your self, you bet the amount that you can afford to lose, so whether you win or lose, doesn't matter so much in the end.

Don't even think about making a living from gambling if you don't want to experience the unexpected, as you said because this activity has a much greater risk than the possibility of winning which is very difficult. The real fact that you have to understand is that gambling is a casino business and the name of the business must be the main goal is to make a profit, so logically are you going against the house which is clearly those who have full control over whatever they want to do to gamblers, and you have said the right thing that losing is usually much more frequent than winning, and above I have said the reason why it can happen, I repeat because it is a business where the casino also prioritizes their profits from people who lose, so if you lose then the casino will smile because they make money. I think only stupid people have the mindset of making gambling a place to earn, I don't know if they don't understand the real facts or they are just really stupid.

People who have a healthy mindset they gamble with the aim of just filling empty time when off work for entertainment when bored, only a small amount they allocate, that's what should be done and with that then I think you will stay safe and comfortable.
3419  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Question for those who loose too frequently in gambling on: November 23, 2023, 10:55:26 AM
Are you saying that the percentage of wins is much greater than losses? if it's true like that then honestly I can't stop thinking because it's far from the true statement, the real fact in gambling is that if you are lucky then you will win and if you are not lucky at that time then it is clear that you will lose, don't let yourself be too It's easy to conclude that other people have won, you will never know how many losses they have sacrificed just to get that occasional win.

Therefore, don't gamble too much, don't put too high hopes on a win, because clearly the percentage of wins is much lower compared to very high losses, which is why those who gamble too often will usually experience more losses than wins, that's clear. because luck will not always come according to what you want. That's right friend, there is no other way if you don't want to experience a lot of losses with large amounts other than you gamble with the intention of just looking for entertainment, this is not a place to make money at all, that's better and indirectly I'm sure of the pattern If you think normally, then at least it will be easier for you to take many precautions because your interest will not be too significant in that activity. So, in my opinion, the most important thing is that your mindset must be correct.
No, that's not what it means. I wrote the meaning wrong. I mean the number of gamblers who lose is more than the number of people who win. Those who lose don't have their luck so they can't win but instead, they continue gambling without realizing that they actually need to rest first. Meanwhile, the number of people who won was few and they were able to win because they were lucky enough to come at the right time. Many people have experienced losses from gambling and we should try to limit the number of losses we lose.

We can only limit our gambling activities and reduce gambling time to avoid losses that can increase because we have seen what happens to people who continue to gamble without taking a break. Their emotions can be triggered and they can no longer think clearly because there is a strong urge from within them to try to recover from their previous loss, even though it is still difficult for them to achieve it. Luck will only come to the right people who deserve that luck, so we can't expect much luck to come to us every time we gamble. Instead of experiencing a lot of losses, we should limit ourselves when playing gambling and always manage the use of money for gambling so that we don't spend all the money we deposit that day. By doing the necessary things while gambling, we can avoid losing a lot and can also enjoy gambling as entertainment.

Oh yes if that's what you mean, and I also apologize if I misunderstood your statement, but let's just forget that we continue to discuss that where it is true of all gamblers I am also very sure that  the percentage of defeat is much higher than victory, which is why more people suffer defeat or even cause many problems in their real lives such as stress, depression or debt, usually it will happen to those who have entered the addiction phase with a high level. So the point is to stay normal in looking at gambling, meaning don't overdo it, after all this is also just an activity that depends on luck alone, if you are lucky then you will win, don't let you think about increasing your gambling time  because it will not always close the possibility or mean that it cannot increase your percentage of luck to be higher, but on the contrary, your luck is even more.

Oh yes if that's what you mean, and I also apologize if I misunderstood your statement, but let's just forget that we continue to discuss that where it is true of all gamblers I am also very sure that the percentage of defeat is much higher than victory, which is why more people suffer defeat or even cause many problems in their real lives such as stress,  depression or debt, usually it will happen to those who have entered the addiction phase with a high level. So the point is to stay normal in looking at gambling means don't overdo it, after all this is also just an activity that depends on luck, if you are lucky then you will win.
3420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 23, 2023, 10:34:06 AM
It is possible that it can all happen or the point is that they can carry such a mindset because they want to get something instant, they think that they can get money instantly by just gambling and without having to sweat a lot like a real job, when on the other hand if they understand all the concepts of gambling and also with what is meant by luck I think they will not have such a mindset. Yes, I understand that there are winning opportunities that can surprise you and give you great excitement but don't let you equate gambling with real and promising business results, in business it is true that the more we struggle and try hard, there will be balanced reciprocity, meaning positive things or success but in gambling there is absolutely no such element, why? You should already understand that in gambling everything goes randomly for the results, and that is why the more often you gamble, the more you will lose.
Most people will immediately think about getting a lot of money from gambling because they see several people who have succeeded in getting it. They also want to feel like they are getting money from gambling so they continue to gamble. They forget the concept of gambling, that gambling is only entertainment for everyone but they have to use money to get entertainment and if they want to use gambling as a place to make money, it won't be easy to get. Indeed, there will be a chance to win, but they should be able to think that the chance will not be too big compared to the chance of losing. And it is clearly different from business because in running a business, we have the opportunity to make a profit so we should not use gambling to make money. We should make money from a more promising business than gambling.

Yes, they seem to be motivated by some of the victories achieved by others, so that makes them very ambitious to get the same fate, they assume that it turns out that only by gambling they can get a victory like others, the problem here is that they only see the victory of others but do not ask how many defeats the person has suffered, I'm sure if they ask them they will at least be quite surprised because it turns out that the person has to sacrifice a lot of defeats first just to get the occasional victory. I think it's because they are too eager to see the chances of winning that they forget that there are greater risks that they never expected. Their mindset is very contrary to the actual concept of gambling and also to the facts that usually occur, they should gamble with the intention of nothing more than just entertainment, with that then I think nothing will happen to them - things that are not wanted. Yes gambling is absolutely not a place to make money, it's okay if you want to do that but on the condition that you have to be prepared for all the downturns, this is not a business that has a more definite chance if you work hard, still the final result always depends on your luck, I think only losers have that kind of mindset.


Yes, that's for sure, whoever will not want to experience defeat, that's the importance of applying self-control, there is no other way you can do for prevention except just that, basically if you want to win means you also have to be ready to lose, don't just want to win but not ready to lose, because this is gambling not a business that has certainty for the final results of your struggle. So please think, all decisions are in your own hands, so with that I'm sure you also know what you should do if you don't want to experience the downturn like addicts.
That's what we will get when playing gambling. If we are lucky, we will definitely win and vice versa. But some people are willing to accept the risk of losing even a lot of money because they still believe they can win one day so that makes them continue gambling. We must be able to think clearly to use gambling properly and not try to exceed the limits we have created. We have learned a lot as gamblers, both from our experiences and other people's experiences, so it should make us a little wiser than before, which will be useful for us in deciding to gamble and stop gambling.

In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you're going to want to make sure that you've got a good understanding of what you're doing and what you're doing. For  people who are willing to spend a lot of money just to win, I honestly don't understand what they are thinking, even though it is clear that their intention is to get a win but strangely enough defeat seems like no problem even though if you count it maybe the amount is very large and also not necessarily if they win later the amount of victory can cover the defeat that has been sacrificed. Therefore, the point is not to expect something that is difficult to achieve, after all, casinos make gambling not to give money for free to you, they also want to make a profit, which is why many suffer defeat, we must learn from the downturn of others so that we also do not get into the same hole.

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