War is terrible. I advise strongly against it, also in Syria.
Belgium is a good country for a war. Waterloo started the mess we're in today.
You make a good point. However, better Syria than America. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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It thought the Earth was hollow? And Antarctic has been declared off limits since operation, uhhm, High Jump in '47.
The idea of flat earth has been shown to be incorrect, scientifically for hundreds (thousands?) of years now. The idea of hollow earth was taught as truth in American schools as late as, possibly, the 1950s. Does anyone have good hollow earth theory or science? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Without hate there is no love: duality of mankind.
As long as mankind as a whole doesn't understand this we will never enable higher dimensions of understanding and we will never learn to fly spaceships.
such a pity.
This is backward thinking. We have lived with hate so long, that we don't even see the rut we are in. It is the hate that is keeping us apart. It is the hate that is destroying advancements that are made. Hate kills off people who would increase knowledge and science. Could we live without hate, but only love? If we only had love, and if there was a desire to explore space, we would have helped each other towards that goal, and accomplished it long ago. Imagine, if we only had love - even if we couldn't appreciate it as much as we do because we have experienced hate - we would long ago have terra formed multitudes of planets, and developed faster than light drives that would have taken us to the farthest galaxies. We have failed, all because of hate. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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If people are meant by top level guys, top level guys do only what has been programmed for them to do by cause and effect. Even the firing of the neurons in their brains depends on all kinds of causes, like the food they eat, the water they drink, the amount of salt in their bodies, and loads of other things that are all predetermined. Why predetermined? Because, even though we have some theories that pure random might exist, and even though we have some quantum math that says that pure random DOES exist (remember, quantum can prove anything any which way), by far the greatest evidence (so strong that it is proof) is the example in nature expressed by Newton's 3rd Law. People are simply 100% pawns in life, moved entirely according to the dictates of nature, and the real powers that be. The only exception to this is that God, in all this cause and effect, holds open a section of faith in Himself, in the heart of each person, and then God directs nature, based on the faith of the person, so that the person can SEEM to be moving and shaking the world. Mankind without God, as a thinking, rational being, is next to nothing in knowledge and understanding. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) All this thinking just to avoid the Pope and his/her authority? Best regards. Ignoring all this thinking simply to justify bowing down to a Man... the Pope. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Religious children are taught to be well behaved. They are punished for doing the opposite. Sometimes these punishments can make them psychopaths. A large number of the serial murderers and rapists in the United States hail from ultra-religious families. Ever heard of Robert Hansen? He was a serial killer from Anchorage, Alaska. He killed more than 30 women, after raping them. He was from ultra-religious background. There are other examples as well.... such as Christian Longo, Gary Ridgway, Pedro Alonzo Lopez, and John Floyd Thomas Jr. The devil and his demons don't target people they already have. It is the Christians and other religious people that they tempt more. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) How true it is. There are also testimonies of those from Satanic groups, like witches, that say they will actually put curses on churches, and/or actually try to seduce members of the church so the whole church will fall/fail. That's exactly what catholic church does to it's enemies. Then anyone who is an enemy of the Catholic Church (which is anyone who is not Catholic and includes Christians) should make sure no curses have a right to fall on them. Christianity is simply Catholicism without the Papacy. The Papacy detracts from the work of Jesus Christ by expressing that good works are necessary for salvation. Because of this, there are many Christians in the Catholic Church, because the people don't recognize what the Papacy is doing. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Religious children are taught to be well behaved. They are punished for doing the opposite. Sometimes these punishments can make them psychopaths. A large number of the serial murderers and rapists in the United States hail from ultra-religious families. Ever heard of Robert Hansen? He was a serial killer from Anchorage, Alaska. He killed more than 30 women, after raping them. He was from ultra-religious background. There are other examples as well.... such as Christian Longo, Gary Ridgway, Pedro Alonzo Lopez, and John Floyd Thomas Jr. The devil and his demons don't target people they already have. It is the Christians and other religious people that they tempt more. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) How true it is. There are also testimonies of those from Satanic groups, like witches, that say they will actually put curses on churches, and/or actually try to seduce members of the church so the whole church will fall/fail. That's exactly what catholic church does to it's enemies. Then anyone who is an enemy of the Catholic Church (which is anyone who is not Catholic and includes Christians) should make sure no curses have a right to fall on them. The Catholic Church holds that the Bible is part of the Word of God (the Papal Bulls being the rest, and more important part of it). Although the Catholic Church doesn't encourage people to read the Bible, yet because of the great amount of literacy around the world, they don't disallow it. Disallowing it wouldn't work, and would only prove them to be against real knowledge. The result is that there are many Christians in the Catholic Church, even among the higher echelons. In fact, the priests of many Catholic parishes around the world (those that are not under direct control of the Vatican), often preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified for the forgiveness of sins, accurately. The main Church doesn't mind too much, as long as they get their money, and maintain some authority. After all, you can't convert everyone away from Jesus. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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People hate Islam as in all most all terrorists attacks Islamic Countries were involved and people have start believing that Islam is only responsible for terrorism in the world. So nobody will love those people who believes in killing innocent people
Even Islamites hate Islam. It is Muslim hate of Islam that drives them into such a murderous fury so that they go out and wantonly kill, totally against the love that God has placed into their hearts. They are simply caught in contradictions that are finally driving them mad. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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lets say Americans give up their gun rights. Then the government decides it wants to use unconstitutional force on us. How would we defend ourselves without guns?
If you don't want to be vaporized, you'd have to take your own life. Yes, vaporized. Because this time they will use plasma fired furnaces, rather than the old style, coal and wood fired, that Hitler and his cohorts used. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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religion and atheism can do nothing ,its the top level guys always. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fsocioecohistory.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F07%2Fgutle_schnaper_rothschild_if_my_sons_didnot_want_wars_there_would_be_none.jpg&t=663&c=2htcsa4hku6QBg) If people are meant by top level guys, top level guys do only what has been programmed for them to do by cause and effect. Even the firing of the neurons in their brains depends on all kinds of causes, like the food they eat, the water they drink, the amount of salt in their bodies, and loads of other things that are all predetermined. Why predetermined? Because, even though we have some theories that pure random might exist, and even though we have some quantum math that says that pure random DOES exist (remember, quantum can prove anything any which way), by far the greatest evidence (so strong that it is proof) is the example in nature expressed by Newton's 3rd Law. People are simply 100% pawns in life, moved entirely according to the dictates of nature, and the real powers that be. The only exception to this is that God, in all this cause and effect, holds open a section of faith in Himself, in the heart of each person, and then God directs nature, based on the faith of the person, so that the person can SEEM to be moving and shaking the world. Mankind without God, as a thinking, rational being, is next to nothing in knowledge and understanding. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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@bad
I've got a mountain of poof, flat earth is not some wild theory. As for religion really, WTF is religion? I reference the bible simply because it's an ancient document that talks about what they knew about the planet a long time ago.
So the earth and man were created, great let's move on.
Round earth people have had a solid mountain of proof for a long time, while the proof for flat earth has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. The Bible is: - Based on eye witness reports; - Handed down accurately by a nation more stubborn than any other for accuracy; - More ancient copies of fragments than any other religion (including the religion(s) of science) for a far longer period of time than any other religion; - More copies of fragments than could be expected without Divine help; - Filled with prophesies that were fulfilled, and prophesies that we are seeing being fulfilled; - The only book that offers a clear view from the beginning to the end and beyond; - Filled with reasonable and logical instruction for living life, for peoples of virtually any society; - The only book that clearly offers salvation into the best form of everlasting life, including the best reasons why life-to-eternal life works the way it does; - Stirs the hearts of many people, some of whom haven't even heard or read it, simply because it matches life so extremely well; - Maintains multitudes of believers who are moved by the Holy Spirit of God working through it; - Maintains a terrible warning for those who do not follow it... an eternity of damnation; - Is held in place by God. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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At least a hundred times, now, over the last hundred+ years. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Not unless you consider a "placebo" to be a different vaccine, or aluminum, thimerosal, or everything in the vaccine except the antigen. And mercury at times. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Watch the building fall into its own footprint. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Let people do whatever they want.
You will not do what you want - you will do what I want. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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The earth is a sphere. The Old Testament says, talking about God, in Job 26:7: He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing. Places in the Bible that talk about the "pillars" of the earth, could easily be talking about the "pillars" that hold the crust of the earth in position on the mantle. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll agree the Earth as a whole is a sphere if you agree that we live on the inside and the land within is flat. There's an empty space between the firmament and the flat earth; it's a half full bubble suspended by neutral buoyancy in 100% pure water. The pillars would be just to keep keep it from drifting. Well, I'll give you one thing. Like the scientists who start believing their own, wild theories, long before the theories have been proven true, you have your religion going in another direction. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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open carry doesn't mean waving the thing around and pointing it at people, which is what this unfortunate niglet was doing when he got taken down
Exactly. His parents are to be blamed for his death, and not the cops. The cops just did what they were supposed to do. Their intention was to protect the innocent and unarmed bystanders from any possible attack by the gun-waving retard. The next time you want to wave your gun at the cops, do it either in the United Kingdom or Norway. Did you ever watch the video? The cops drove up off the walkway, behind the fence. They didn't give the kid a chance at anything. They simply drove right up to him, jumped out and hollered for 2 seconds, and shot him. The kid couldn't have responded fast enough if he was already laying his toy down before the cops got out of their car. It was pure murder. You can see it in the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1GaaMYhrw0Youtube search on "Tamir Rice" for various forms of this video. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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And all of them overshadowed by the following: 150 million natives exterminated by the Catholics in the Americas in 16th century 100 million Hindus killed by Muslims during the Islamic conquest of India 90% of the Australian aborigines killed by the British Christians. Religious people have killed at least 10x more people, when compared to the atheists. You are very right, but mostly because atheism is simply another religion, like it or not. There isn't any person alive without religion of some kind. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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You forgot about 6 million Jews in WW2. Best regards. Hitler had been a Christian (Catholic) in his early years. Although he fell into crazy religious ideals in later life, he never denounced the Church, and he was never excommunicated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_HitlerWe don't know that he was an atheist. He probably wasn't. So, the Holocaust wouldn't necessarily fit the classification of genocide done by atheists. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But since the Catholic Church is not Christian, and he wanted death for people, he was not Christian. Anyone who wants death for people, is wishing to cut their life shorter than the Lord intends and may stop someone from being saved, this is not a love for that person. Because if we love our brothers and sisters, we wish for all to be saved as the Lord does. 1 John 4:20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.No Christian should attempt to cut another's life shorter because that life may have been saved later on, also that life may have gone on to save even more people. Some of the best testimonies of Christianity are from atheists who have been saved. They deserve to live long enough to be saved and perhaps save others through their testimony. Neither of the two passages necessarily make a person an atheist, or even an unsaved unbeliever. We simply don't know whether or not Hitler became an atheist. In the Crusades of the middle ages, Crusaders were theists that did a lot of killing in the name of the Lord. Much of the time they were wrong in doing it. But they never became atheists because they did it. They were simply ignorant Christians. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I didn't meant to imply the lack of being Christian equals being an atheist. I just got sidetracked towards the end. Hitler wasn't Christian because he had no love for his fellow men and women on earth and was fine with torturing them. Anyone who has a hate for people and wants to murder them for some reason (even if they think they're doing the Lord's will) are not Christian since the Lord said they're a liar for calling themselves Christian. But not being Christian doesn't make them an atheist. They may still believe in God, but not truly know Him. And I didn't mean to imply that it was right of Hitler to do what he did. We don't know that Hitler had no love. When you are in a position of leading a great country like Hitler was, there are times when you need to become calloused. When you look at the history of Germany, the Prussians, and other groups who fought in WW1, it is difficult to say for sure that Hitler was wrong in his beginnings as leader of Germany. Sure, Germany was not right in what they did in WW1 and before, but the way that they were mistreated after they lost that war was not right either. Did Hitler love the German people and Germany? Or was he only using them. Hard to say. But one might give him the benefit of the doubt in this area. At least some of his hate for the Jews was based on things that some people he thought were Jews did or attempted to do to Germany. It was war, and you love your own people more than you love the enemy. http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.htmlhttp://www.realjewnews.com/?p=40http://justice4germans.com/2013/06/20/they-called-it-liberation-i-call-it-hate-war-crimes-and-genocide-against-germans-you-be-the-judge/![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Ohio is an open carry State. If cops can't handle that idea, they need to resign. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) open carry doesn't mean waving the thing around and pointing it at people, which is what this unfortunate niglet was doing when he got taken down Twelve-year-old kids do this all the time with their toy guns, especially in open carry States. If they can't find toy guns, they make them out of branches from trees. Often they are pretending to be cops. In their minds they are on the cops' side and the cops are on theirs... until a cop shoots them, and they don't live long enough to overcome their horror of what just happened. Time to give the kids real guns to play their cops and robbers with, so that when the real cops come, they have a little bit of a fighting chance. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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