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3421  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: أشياء غريبة تحدث في القسم العربي on: October 02, 2020, 12:28:28 PM
لقد تم رفع الحظر عن الأخت Salamstar و الأخ Ulven و تغييره بحظر توقيع كما هو ظاهر في بروفايلاتهم. كل الشكر للاخوة الذي قامو بمراسلة الادراة لمساعدة العضوين على استرجاع حساباتهم.


طبعا هدا سيكون اختبار حقيقي لرغبة العضوين في الاستمرار بالنشر بدون اي امل في كسب اي مقابل مادي طوال فترة حظر التوقيع،  فعلنا مايكمننا فعله والان الكرة في ملعب الاعضاء الذين تم رفع الحظر عنهم.

بالنسبة لباقي الاعضاء الذين تم اكتشاف انهم يتبدالون نقاط الجدارة وتم حظرهم بناء على ذلك او لسبب اخر فانا شخصييا لن اقوم بمحاولة مساعدتهم، وايضا بالنسبة لي salamstar و ulven هده هي فرصتكم الاخيرة فرجاء لا تضيعوها بمحاولة فتح حسابات اخرى لتجنب حظر التوقيع لانه سيتم اكتشفاها عاجلا ام اجلا وعندها لن يشفع لكم احد..  ابدو صفحة جديدة واتنمى لكم التوفيق.
3422  Other / Meta / Re: Ban Appeal Salamstar on: October 01, 2020, 08:28:08 PM
maybe a signature ban of some sort would be more appropriate.

I agree, I am not here to defend the user's actions nor I know anything about the alleged previous account, but the member "Salamstar" was very productive and added a lot of great content to the Arabic board, a ton of accounts are banned every day and I only share my honest opinion about banned users' performance when I feel like they deserve it, I think a signature ban for 2 years or so would be appropriate.


3423  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: October 01, 2020, 01:05:26 PM
Predicting future difficulty isn't easy, I too probably make more wrong predictions than right, simply put, the mining industry isn't rational, one would assume that paying $3500 for S19 pro which makes about $150 at 5 cents per Khw is something that nobody would do because this takes 2 whole YEARS to ROI at best case scenario, and there is zero guarantee that the miner will not toast by then, no matter how you look at it, paying this much is plain STUPID unless you are betting on the price to get extremely bullish, which in that case, buying the coin directly would yield better results with much less risk.

However, guess what? people are actually paying $3500 for S19 pro and $2500 for S19, they might not be stupid, they could have been laundering some money, tricking investors to invest in losing business, it could be any other reason but they all fall into the same category of "irrationality" which makes difficulty prediction a tough job.
3424  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: أشياء غريبة تحدث في القسم العربي on: October 01, 2020, 12:10:55 PM
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
انا صديقتكم Salamstar
يؤسفني جدا انني اطل عليكم من حساب جديد فقط لانه من الظلم ان اقرأ فقط الاتهامات ولا استطيع الرد عليها..

للاسف هده هي قوانين المنتدى, في حال تم حظر حساب لك حتى وان كان منذ عشرة سنوات فيمنع عليك فتح حساب جديد, اعتقد انه يوجد بعض الاستتناءات ولكنها ضئيلة جدا, مدير المنتدى يقوم برفع الحظر عن بعض الاعضاء ان وجد ان وجوده في المنتدى مهم لباقي الاعضاء, ولكن طبعا التقيم في النهاية يعود له.

مبدئيا يمكنك انشاء موضوع جديد في قسم Meta تحت عنوان Ban Appeal Salamstar وقومي فه بشرح كل شي وبكل صدق وبدون تلاعب بالحقائق, ايضا يجب عليك التوقف عن النشر من هدا الحساب خارج الموضوع الذي ستقومي بانشائه في ذلك القسم لانه يعتبر Ban evasion ويزيد الطين بلة.

انا لا اعرف تاريخك ولا ماهو حسابك القديم, ولكن اعرف ان المنشورات الصادرة من حساب Salamstar كانت ذات جودة وليس لدي مشكلة في ان اشهد بذلك في الموضوع الذي ستقومي بوضعه.

الكلام الموجود في الاعلى ينطبق على اي عضو تم حظره ويعتقد انه يستحق فرصة تانية, قم بانشاء موضوع في قسم Meta ولكن لا تتأمل الكثير لان الامل ضعيف.
3425  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: مسابقة Chipmixer 6 on: October 01, 2020, 11:42:23 AM
هل هناك وقت محدد لانتهاء التقديم لهذه المسابقة؟
ايضا في حال لم يتقدم عضو آخر غيري وغير الأخ خالد هل ستستمر المسابقة أم ستتوقف أم سيتم تأجيلها؟
أرجو أن توضح لنا هذه الأمور أخي ميكي

انا لست مستغرب من عدم وجود اقبال على المسابقة نظرا لانها تتطلب القليل من الجهد وتعلم شي جديد وهدا شي لايحبه الكثيرون للأسف  Grin, السبب الاخر هوا ان بعض الاعضاء قد يكون فاتهم الموضوع ولم ينتبهوا له

المهم الان انه لن يتم الغاء المسابقة اخي يحى حتى وان كان هناك مشترك واحد, سوف ننتظر بضعا من الوقت كما اقترح الاخ خالد, واعتقد بمجرد وصولنا ل 5 اعضاء سنبدا في المسابقة, وان مضت فترة بدون مشاركات فسوق نبداء المسابقة بالاعضاء الموجودين فقط مهما كان عددهم.

مبدئيا ولكي لا اضيع عليك الوقت انت والاخ خالد, ان لم يتقدم اي شخص اخر للمسابقة حتى يوم الاحد ارجو ارسال عنواين البتكوين الخاصة بكم لارسل لكم القيمة حيث يمكنكم البدء بالمسابقة ويكون لديكم الاسبقية نظرا لقدومكم مبكرا, ومن ثم نتيح بعض الوقت للاعضاء الاخرين للانظمام.


3426  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Some very 'bad' news on s19 shipments. on: October 01, 2020, 11:32:52 AM
I'm still waiting for my May order. Received an email the other day from yucheng.ji@bitmain.com stating that it will be shipping soon but without the APW7 power supply due to production issues.

I had a large number of emails from Bitmain and never saw this email, please double-check the email and don't send any funds until you have confirmed its integrity.

I ordered 2 apw9 for my 17xs17 units.

should have shipped they have not.

Sorry to hear that you are having troubles with Bitmain shipping your PSUs, luckily I didn't take any risk and ordered one from a reseller in China for $170, it was $36 more expensive but at least I knew it would ship the next day unlike buying directly from Bitmain with all the shipping delays they had recently.
3427  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: s9 mining screen doesn't show anything on: September 30, 2020, 10:36:17 PM
try to reset the miner to the factory settings by holding IPbutton for 5 sec.

The IP Report button used "as is" doesn't reset the miner, it simply sends a DHCPDISCOVER message to your router/switch (whichever has the DHCP  server ), sometimes the DHCP server fails to send a DHCPOFFER and the miner doesn't get an IP, but then the miner keeps waiting for the DHCP server and that can go forever, so this IP Report button sends another DISCOVER message in an attempt to get an IP address, but if you are already connected to the router and your miner has an IP address (OP said he set the pool worker and all that) means he indeed has an IP address and pressing the IP button for 5 seconds will do absolutely nothing.

With the being said, holding the IP Report button prior to powering the miner on without letting go for a few seconds after the miner has been turned on will reset the miner to it's default settings.

A side note: since APW3/APW7 don't have an on/off button this isn't exactly easy to do, you can hold the PSU still using your leg (knee/foot), use one hand to press the IP report and another hand to plug the cable in, of course if your miner is somewhere high this trick won't work.  Grin
3428  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Venezuela national bitcoin mining pool on: September 30, 2020, 06:41:30 PM
20 to 50 million dead in a world with 1.4 billion world pop spanish flu
1 to 2 million dead in a world with 8.4 billion world pop covid

The Spanish flu came in April 1918 during WW1 which lasted for 4 years and ended a few months after the Spanish flu, the whole world by then was exhausted and nations have been milked dry post-war, another major factor is technology, there was no internet, and only a few people had phone lines, heck they didn't even have TVs back then, so it was pretty hard for them to co-operate, this makes the whole comparison a bit inaccurate.

What happened during the Covid-19 this year was not even close to cooperation, many countries went against China, the Czech Republic "stole" face masks that were sent to Italy, another cargo of medical aids to Tunis was pirated by God know what country, the lock-down isn't co-operation, it's every country trying to protect itself, co-operation means if the U.S finds a vaccine they should share it with Russia and vice-versa, none of that shit is happening, every country just want to make the most of this pandemic, co-operation is close to zero IMO.

When it comes to the economy it's even worse, good luck getting China and the U.S to agree on the same monetary policies, it's not going to happen, by the way, read "the bitcoin standard" book by Saifedean, it covers all of these details and it explains why killing bitcoin now is not possible.
3429  Local / إستفسارات و أسئلة المبتدئين / Re: لائحة بالعملات البديلة المفضلة لديك on: September 30, 2020, 05:27:01 PM
نقطة جيدة ولكن الايثيروم لن يرتفع كثيرا بسبب المركزية المفرطة لذلك لا اعتقد اننا سنشهد 1000 دولار او علي الاقل الاستقرار في ذلك المستوى

اتمنى ان توضح نقطة "المركزية" وكيف ان عملة الايثيريوم تصنف ضمن العملات المركزية, على حد علمي انها عملة مبنية على mining consensus مثل البتكوين, وعند انتقالها الى POS (وهوا امر سيء من وجهة نظري) يصبح التصويت لهاؤولاء الذين يمتلكون 32 ايثيريوم بدل من المعدنين, على العموم حتى لو فرضنا جدلا انها 100% مركزية, يجب ان لا تنسى ان 99% من البشر لايهتمون بهده التفاصيل اصلا, والا لما كنا قد رأينا اي عملة مركزية تنجح, معظم عملات ال Defi مركزية 100% ومع ذلك مليارات الدولارات تم استتمارها فيها, البشر يبحتون عن الكسب وقلة قليلة من يهتم بالتفاصيل خصوصا مايتعلق بالمركزية وغيرها, لذلك موضوع المركزية وان وجد فلن يكون عائقا في مسار السعر من وجهة نظري.
3430  Local / إستفسارات و أسئلة المبتدئين / Re: لائحة بالعملات البديلة المفضلة لديك on: September 29, 2020, 10:28:03 PM
فكرة جيدة اخي هيوج, ففي النهاية لا يوجد مخلوق على الوجه الارض لايريد الكسب, الرهان على العملات البديلة من وجهة نظري يجب ان يكون على العملات التي لديها ماركت كاب ضئيل جدا, مع الاخد في الحسبان ان كامل المبلغ الذي تستمره فيها يمكن ان يختفي بين ليلة وضحاها, طبعا في الحالة الاخرى هي ان المبلغ يتضاعف اضعاف المبلغ الاصلي.

السبب وراء صعود العملات البديلة الناشئة اكثر من البتكوين هوا ببساطة الحجم السوقي لتلك العملات, فمثلا حجم سوق البتكوين هوا اكثر من 100 مليار, يعني لكي يتضاعف سعرها يجب ان يدخل سوقها 100 مليار اخرى, بينما عملة قيمتها السوقية 5 مليون, كل ماتحتاج له هو دخول 5 مليون لكي تتضاعف, يعني لو تم استتمار مبلغ 50 مليون في اسبوع واحد (وهو مبلغ بسيط نسبيا) سيتضاعف سعر هده العملة 900% ان استتمرت مبلغ 50$ سيصبح 500$.

طبعا يجب النظر الى الجانب الاخر وهوا انه لكي تفقد مثلا نص استتمارك يجب ان يغادر سوق البتكوين 50 مليار وهوا مبلغ ضخم جدا وصعب الحدوث, اما في العملة الاخرى التي قيمتها 5 ملاين, ربما يكون هناك شخص واحد يمتلك نصفها وعندما يبيعها يقل استتمارك النص! يعني الخطر بمقدار الربح, لذلك يجب ان لا تستتمر في عملة واحدة, ولاتكون سلة عملاتك كلها في نفس المجال.

مثلا الترند الصاعد السابق كان لعملات ال Defi يعني لو استتمرت في 10 عملات خاصة ب Defi فانت هنا تغامر بكل اموالك بنجاح او سقوط سوق ال Defi كامل, وهده نقطة يجب الحذر منها, يجب الاستتمار في عملات مختلفة مبنية لاهداف مختلفة.

يوجد قناة ل Ivan on Tech على اليوتيوب يناقش فيها العملات البديلة ومشاريعها ويلخص لك الكثير, ومن ثم يأتي دورك في البحث العميق واتخاد القرار بالاستتمار او لا, فقد تذكر ان كل ماتستتمره في هده العملات يمكن ان يتضعاف 5 مرات ويمكن ان يختفي في ليلة وضحاها, بينما الاستتمار في البتكوين اقل مكسب واكثر اماننا من جهة الخسارة.

الحل الوسط في الاستتمار في هده المرحلة هوا المراهنة على الاثيريوم, نظرا لان 90% من العملات الصاعدة مبنية عليها, والحجم السوقي للاثيريوم يعتبر كبير بانسبة لتلك العملات ( اقل خسارة في حالة الهبوط) وصغير بانسبة للبتكوين ( اكبر ربح في حال الصعود), وفي حال نجاح الانتقال لاصدار الاثيريوم 2.0 فأعتقد ان سعرها سيتجاوز ال 1000$, طبعا في حال فشلها يمكن للسعر ان ينخفض انخفاض دامي.
3431  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: انشاء فريق لكشف الثغرات والحصول على المال on: September 29, 2020, 10:09:54 PM
معكم Bug Hunter سابق
مجرد نصيحة , ان لم تكن لديكم عزيمة كبيرة و ارادة و طموح و اهم شيئ صبر انسو الفكرة من الان
لان المنافسة في هذا المجال
كبيييييييييرة جدا
في خلال 6 اشهر الاولي من التعليم و التجريب لم يحالفني الحظ في ايجاد اي ثغرة
بعدها وجدت ثغرة كان ثمنها 500$

الاهم من الصبر هوا وجود الموهبة والامكانيات, موضوع ايجاد الثغرات معقد جدا حتى من الناحية الاقتصادية, الاشخاص الذين يمتلكون الخبرة الكافية للخوض في هدا المجال قد يجنون اموال اكثر بتسخير امكانياتهم في بيع خدمات البرمجة عبر مواقع ال Freelancing بدلا من استتمار الوقت في ايجاد الثغرات, طبعا في حال وجدث ثغرة كبيرة في موقع مهم قد تتحصل على قيمة مالية لايمكنك كسبها بالطريقة العادية حتى في سنة, ولكن الامر اشبه بالرهان.

وبناء على هدا فأن معظم من يسعون وراء ايجاد الثغرات يكون لديهم وقت فراع اصلا, اما الاشخاص المشغولين باشغال اخرى فهم لايمتلكون الوقت لغير ذلك, وهدا طبعا يتيح فرصة اكبر "للمغامرين" الذين يكرسون كل وقتهم او جزء كبير منه لايجاد الثغرات.

3432  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: s9 mining screen doesn't show anything on: September 29, 2020, 09:41:28 PM
I set my s9 miner up everything seems to be running fine such as no beeps or red lights. set my mining pools up still everything good but go to miner screen it doesn't show no stats, the screen comes up but it doesn't show hashrate and the pools. i did download the latest firmware from bitmain to make sure i have up to date firmware.

Try using a different browser or hit Ctrl+F5, this should bring the miner status page up, go directly to this link http://192.168.x.xxx/cgi-bin/minerStatus.cgi

if that doesn't work then you need to provide more details and screenshots.
3433  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Venezuela national bitcoin mining pool on: September 29, 2020, 09:13:02 PM
I don't see it as such, simply put, the government has easier and more efficient ways to do that, I am not talking about free countries where people are actually protected by the constitution, many countries like Venezuela and my country can make laws which override any existing constitution, if that doesn't work, they can easily modify the constitution to fit their goals.

Venezuela just like any other country, they don't want to miss the train, if the whole world was 100% centralized and we didn't have these geopolitical issues bitcoin would have been dead a long time ago, just imagine all major countries agree to ban bitcoin for good with 10 years or lifetime for those who buy/sell/mine bitcoin, but luckily even the large banks aren't really working together.

It is too late for any government to hurt bitcoin, we now are in times where governments can only benefit from BTC, or simply watch it grow, Venezuela's government wants a piece of the cake, without controlling miners it gets hard for them to track miner's earnings, my guess is that they just want miners to PAY them.
3434  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Venezuela national bitcoin mining pool on: September 29, 2020, 11:05:17 AM
Of course, this isn't something you can lie about, there isn't much a pool can do to cheat, the bitcoin ecosystem was designed in such a way that that nobody trusts anybody else, a pool owned by a government is no different to a pool that is owned by anybody else as far as mining is concerned.
3435  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Miners, what's a good rate for electricity these days? on: September 28, 2020, 11:04:42 PM
I appreciate your input here. 4.5 cents is not a problem but how would we account for intricacies such as updated firmware on a few miners out of hundreds owned by other customers, causing those few miners to consume less electricity than the exact same model sitting next to it?

You would have to sell your services in packages, the 4.5 cents Kwh is just a pretty rough figure for your clients to know how much they are paying, but then you would have to price every miner based on its power consumption, for example:

S9 > 14 TH > 1250w = (1.25kw*0.045$*24H) = 1.35$ daily
S9 > 12 TH > 1050w = (1.05kw*0.045$*24H) = 1.134$ daily

Obviously, you would want to limit the options you offer to perhaps 3 profiles per miners, so if you have a total of 5 different models you would have a total of 15 packages to sell from, this will work only if you don't allow the owners to remotely access the miner and modify the mining profile, if you want to give them access then you will have to use a meter, some PDUs like DaveF explained, but this will be treated differently.

You would have to force your clients to buy a fixed number of spots, for example, 1 PDU is good for 10 miners, then they have to buy your host service in batches of 10s, 15 won't work, 9 won't work either, if you don't do that, you will encounter an extra set-up cost as well as extra operational cost.
3436  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Venezuela national bitcoin mining pool on: September 28, 2020, 10:26:32 PM
Is anyone from Venezuela actually planning on jumping on this "national pool".

This doesn't seem like a matter of choice, does it?

the article you referenced says:

The authorities will supervise both the creation and importation of mining equipment. Similarly, mining farms for bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will be able to operate with the support of the State, but only if they are inspected by Sunacrip.

Small mining farms and home miners might get away with this, but if you own a med-sized mining farm then hiding that from the government is going to be a difficult job and involves a ton of risk, so my guess is that all large miners in Venezuela will end up joining that pool.

This might become the most corrupt pool going.

Given the size of the hash power coming in form Venezuela, and if there is going to be any "corruption" it wouldn't matter to bitcoin as a whole, plus, I think the reason for doing this is to tax those miners, miners in countries like the U.S do report their taxes, the government knows that and they don't have to track everybody's shares/hashrate, the government of Venezuela apparently doesn't trust the miners to honestly report their income, and this isn't a matter of something they can fix in a day or two, not even a decade thanks to the long-lasting corruption, so if you can't convince people to report their earnings, simply force them to mine on a single pool.
3437  Local / التعدين / Re: ايه افضل باور للتعدين غير ايفجا جولد on: September 28, 2020, 10:05:38 PM
لم تقم بتحديد نوع الكروت ولا الاستهلاك الكلي, ولكن مبدئيا وبالمتوسط نحسب ان الكرت يستهلك 150 وات يعني ان 4 كروت تحتاج الى 600 وات, طبعا في حالة اقتناء باور 650 وات ستكون تستهلك 100% منه وهدا غير صحيح ثقنيا, لذلك الاقرب سيكون 750 وات, وسعره 120$ في امازون
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Modular-Warranty-Supply-210-GQ-1000-V1/dp/B017HA3RGE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1497554304&sr=8-2&keywords=evga%2B1200&linkCode=sl1&tag=buriedone-20&linkId=3cbdb84157acff5f2c52a6ad384335ee&th=1

ولكن ان اردت نصيحتي قم بشراء 1000 وات, بارغم من ان سعره 195$ الا انه قادر على تشغيل 6 كروت بكل ارياحية, ونظرا لانه يمكن ان تطور من كروتك في المستقبل سيكون تغير الباور سبلاي مكلف جدا على عكس تغير المودر بورد او اضافة رايزر مثلا, فباور سبلاي 1000وات سيكون ممتاز للوقت الحالي وللمستقبل, ولك حرية الاختيار, ان كنت لاتنوي التوسع فيمكن اقتناء 750وات.
3438  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S17 Pro Power_Lost on: September 28, 2020, 04:02:18 AM
Your ambient temperature could have been causing that,  but that is unlikely since 12c is within the normal temperature range, what i think happened is that the heat from the second miner probably caused the heatsinks in the bad miners to stick well and fixed the loose contact they had with the chips.

This probably won't last long, it's like all the other temporary solutions, if returning the unit is an option, you should go for it.
3439  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining pools and the long-term viability of commercial bitcoin mining on: September 26, 2020, 10:39:20 PM
True, the larger the market cap the harder it is to move to either direction, this the reason why coins with smaller market cap outperform BTC in bull markets.

Market cap = 100k, if you add 100k that is a 100% increment
Market cap = 1,000,000 , needs 1,000,000 to do 100%

I am not saying that we will maintain the same base and ratio but going up has no limit.

1st bull run:

Oct 2010 - June 2011
0.1$        - 32$             > 351,000%

2nd bull run:

Nov 2011 - Nov 2013
1.92$       - 1050$       >60,000% (17% of the first run)

3rd bull run

Aug 2015 - Dec 2017
200$        - 20,000$    >10,000% (16% of the second run)

Speculation:

Jan 2019 - Dec 2022?
3000$     -  70,000$  > 1600% (16% of the third run)

Sounds too far stretched?  Maybe, but remember according to the math I did in the first post, we only need 80k by 2032, which means 10 more years, given that fiat money loses it's value to almost everything that has any sort of limited supply.

one more thing to keep in mind that Bitcoin isn't the only coin miners can mine, those coins grow in value as well, they help keep the mining industry large enough for newcomers.
3440  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining pools and the long-term viability of commercial bitcoin mining on: September 26, 2020, 09:14:41 PM
I said so before the halving, when the price was at 7.5k, that after halving its price cannot be 15k (what you wish), but anything under. so 9k~11k fits perfectly fine.

The halving has little to nothing to do with price, the trading volume alone is many times the total new supply, in fact even if we were to mine what's left in a year it's the only 2.6M BTC against the existing  18.4M BTC, I have explained in details why the effect of bitcoin halving is minor on price (will try to find the topic and paste it here), so now that we got the halving-price relation thing out of the way, let me explain to you why do I think that bitcoin will MOST likely hit 80k in 2032.

Since you mentioned Gold, Gold has a market cap of 9 trillion dollars, let's pretend that in 2032 all 21 million bitcoins are in circulation including the ones we lost for good.

21,000,000*80,000 = 1.6 Trillion $ ONLY.

Keep in mind that by the time we get there, banks would have probably printed a few trillion dollars and brought the value of fiat even lower, which makes 1.6 trillion $ in 12 years from now pretty much doable, in fact, easily doable.

I think a much larger market cap is possible for bitcoin, less than 8% of the world population own bitcoin, I believe this counts those who own a single satoshi on their addresses, fiat supply is incredibly large - it makes bitcoin market cap seems like a drop in the ocean, bitcoin market cap (117B) is almost equal to Jeff Bezos's capital alone which is 113B, a 100 billion $ is peanuts as far as the world economy is concerned,
if 10 rich people invest 10% of their money in bitcoin - that alone will take it to 20K in no time.

Again, I am not claiming that I am right and you must be wrong, since we both are "speculating" the price of bitcoin in the future, we both can be wrong, I guess let's wait for 12 years and come back to this topic to see who had the better guess for the future. Grin
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