What do we think gang? Is ol' faithful going to blow Monday or are we going to get enough of an uptick from the Dell news once people wake up in China that it is going to save the riskiest players? I recently adjusted my position entering back in on the Dell news this morning, but still entering some flash crash catching bids on the exchanges in case she blows. I'm interested in hearing people's thoughts and analysis. You all have been around the block longer than I have.
The secret to a good orgasm is to hold it back for as long as possible. Analogies aside: I don't know when (or even if) "she's going to blow", but back on topic: I really don't understand how the USD swaps can be so high permanently. Price has been largely "stable" for a long time now and if I had a long position on borrowed money (let's say 0.1 %/day) established below current price, I'd have either closed it or claimed the coins (if leveraged < 1) a long time ago. I really have no good explanation for this. Has this thread come up with any convincing explanation yet? |
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Congratulations are in order.
I cannot even fathom how much work and dedication you guys put into this project.
I am convinced it will thrive with many wallets supporting it and an ever-growing user base trusting it.
Thank you for making the bitcoin world a better place!
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Well-done in my mind since it does away with 2 widespread myths: - money emerged to replace barter transactions (wrong, it emerged to track debt)
This is the second time in a few days that I read this. Could you point to studies on the matter? I like that not even Austrians seem to be aware of this. Can't point to any study, but I read it on two occasions. One was when reading the german translation of Debt: The First 5,000 YearsGraeber explains the issue quite convincingly, citing many examples (very strange ones among them). I used to believe the barter-story, but after reading (parts of, I haven't finished it) that book, I'm now convinced money really came about as a means to track debt in groups of increasing size and/or accross groups. |
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Stimmt doch nicht, wie ich meine: Gewinn ist €790 entstanden durch Veräußerung am 1.11.2013 (€800 minus €10 = €790€)
Oder vielleicht noch klarer:
1.1.2013: Kauf 1 BTC für 10€
1.11.2013: verkauf 1 BTC für 800€
1.11.2013: kauf 1 BTC für 800€
meiner Ansicht nach entsteht hier ein Gewinn von 790€ obwohl mein "Kaptialfluss in EUR" über's Jahr gesehen negativ ist (-10€).
Genau so ist es richtig. Es sind 790€ verwirklichter Gewinn aus privaten Veräußerungsgeschäften zu versteuern. Genau mit so einer "Einnahmen-Überschuss-Rechnung" wie weiter oben vorgeschlagen wird ist Herr Höneß ins Gefängnis gekommen. Ich habe diese Sachen übrigens in diesem Blogpost mal beispielhaft aufgedröselt: http://bitcoinage.de/index.php/steuererklarung-mit-system-kann-viel-geld-sparen/Grüße Levin Ich muss nochmal antworten... habe den Blog-Post jetzt fertig-gelesen. Ein wirklich guter Artikel den jeder lesen sollte der in dieses Thema einsteigen muss. Hätte ich den vor 2 Jahren gehabt, ich hätte dafür viel gegeben ;-). Dein Fazit kann ich nur unterschreiben und erlaube mir es hier zu cross-posten: Zusammenfassend kann man sagen, dass wie so oft “der Dumme” vom Steuersystem hart bestraft wird. Ich finde das vollkommen untragbar, dass man hier mit solchen Tricks so viel Geld sparen kann und man im ungünstigsten Fall sogar mehr Geld an Steuern zahlen kann, als man überhaupt an Gewinn insgesamt realisiert hat. Ich selbst setze mich erstmalig intensiv damit auseinander und würde mich freuen, gerade über die Depot-Konstruktion früher mehr gewusst zu haben. Ich finde man sollte ein Steuergesetz haben, wo die Steuerlast nicht von der Buchhaltung, sondern vom tatsächlichen Einkommen abhängt.
Das einzige was noch fehlen würde um die Sache abzurunden wäre ein Beispiel mit "Transfers zwischen Depots". Ich will's nicht breittreten, aber es könnte gut sein (mein SB sieht es so), daß man bei deposit/withdraw zwischen Depots die coins frei wählen darf. => noch mehr Optimierungspotential. Ich kann aber verstehen, daß du das nicht mehr bringen wolltest... damit segelt man schon ganz hart am Wind, denke ich. |
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Stimmt doch nicht, wie ich meine: Gewinn ist €790 entstanden durch Veräußerung am 1.11.2013 (€800 minus €10 = €790€)
Oder vielleicht noch klarer:
1.1.2013: Kauf 1 BTC für 10€
1.11.2013: verkauf 1 BTC für 800€
1.11.2013: kauf 1 BTC für 800€
meiner Ansicht nach entsteht hier ein Gewinn von 790€ obwohl mein "Kaptialfluss in EUR" über's Jahr gesehen negativ ist (-10€).
Genau so ist es richtig. Es sind 790€ verwirklichter Gewinn aus privaten Veräußerungsgeschäften zu versteuern. Genau mit so einer "Einnahmen-Überschuss-Rechnung" wie weiter oben vorgeschlagen wird ist Herr Höneß ins Gefängnis gekommen. Ich habe diese Sachen übrigens in diesem Blogpost mal beispielhaft aufgedröselt: http://bitcoinage.de/index.php/steuererklarung-mit-system-kann-viel-geld-sparen/Grüße Levin cooler blog-post. Danke! Du hast glaub einen Fehler drin: Für diese Gewinne gibt es eine Freigrenze von 600 Euro pro Jahr welche von der Summe aller zu versteuernden Gewinne aus privaten Veräußerungsgeschäften in diesem Jahr abgezogen wird.
Da es sich um eine Freigrenze und keinen Freibetrag handelt, werden die 600 auch nicht abgezogen. Jedenfalls sagt das mein SB so. |
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I have been doubling my BTC holdings every day since December Assuming you started with a single Satoshi on January 1st, you must own 8034690221294951377709810461705813012611014968913964.17650688 bitcoins by now. It follows that he owns 0 satoshis |
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dammit I just went with HP, every DELL I have ever had has performed flawlessly to EOL One criticism I have for dell: they used to (still do) use custom power supplies and motherboards with 2 wires on the pinout switched, otherwise all ATX standard. Result after trying to replace a power supply in one of these machine: a flash, a bang... then smelly electronics smoke and a brand-new machine from a manufacturer actually honoring standards. |
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I still value the overstock story way higher, because that guy is really trying to trickle bitcoin acceptance down the supply chain. Now if dell did that... I'd be really excited. |
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Well-done in my mind since it does away with 2 widespread myths: - money emerged to replace barter transactions (wrong, it emerged to track debt)
- gold has intrinsic value
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"good" in the sense of "fitting". I don't want to sell because it is such a small part  100oz is not worth the hassle for me currently  hehe. I remember you selling 2 ounces to me to get a little reputation on this forum. Times change  |
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I have to look for it, but I have one. Incidentally it has a custom fan duct (made from cardboard). A photo of it was used in a BFL ad in Bitcoin Magazine, showing the photo and words along the lines of: "something like this, just better".
Heh, do you remember which issue?  not exactly. Should've been around first half of 2013. |
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I used to say: "If Bitcoin fails (goes to 0), it was an accidental ponzi" you have to give them some credit, it's not far from the truth |
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Does any one have one of these units laying around. I am interested for collectors purposes only  I have to look for it, but I have one. Incidentally it has a custom fan duct (made from cardboard). A photo of it was used in a BFL ad in Bitcoin Magazine, showing the photo and words along the lines of: "something like this, just better". |
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Like watching paint dry.
Hopefully more like watching grass grow. |
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This is one of the catalysts I am looking for to spark a Bitcoin rally like no other:
The next time the world has a financial crisis, Bitcoin will soar to the heavens as central banks around the world print to oblivion.
I'm not sure about this. There could also be enormous pressure to sell assets. Bitcoin could be one of them. |
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Hashrate back to an all time high and distribution continues to look better. Great news everyday. Major retailers offering large discounts to get our bitcoin business. Former head of the U.S mint buying bitcoin..also accompanied by several billionaires and people continue to sell. wtf people  Next rise is going to burn a lot of "bears" its simply impatience. There's another thread asking why its taking so long. From July 2011 to November 2011 was a 6 month grind from 32 to 1.98. That was painful. But having the fortitude and patience to go to the beach or buy that dip yielded in the thousands of percent return. there will always be those in for the quick flip. It felt like insanity at the time. Not helped by the failure to deploy 700 bitcoinicabux before they got zhoutonged It doesn't feel half as crazy this time really, (maybe if we went double digits it might) and I don't mind waiting. Having said that, 10k before year end would pay pretty big for me due to a speculative wager I made on bit bet a long time ago yes, but there's a major difference: News this time is extremely positive, back then it was all doom, gloom and the death of Bitcoin in the news. It was a capitulation type mood. |
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only bacteria grows this fast:
Developers who build bitcoin infrastructure are bacteria! And Bitcoin is a virus using them? |
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The answer is very simple. Just tie it to wages. Deflation gets out of control when wages decrease. Inflation gets out of control when wages increase. Simple: Just make it
so wages never increase or decrease. The broader and more accurate your measure of wages, the better.
What happens when everyones wages are contracted in this currency? |
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So may anyone explain me...1mBTC= 0.01 btc or 0.001 btc?
0.001 (1/1000th, milli = 1000) but hey: 1 satoshi = 0.01 bits and 1 million bits is a bitcoin. All you need to know ;-) |
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