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3421  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The best cloud mining site !!! on: September 01, 2016, 06:49:58 AM
The site winspiral is advertising is most definitely a ponzi scheme judging from their feedback. If you put your money in that site, you should expect it to be considered a donation. Just an FYI.
That's right but he does not realize about his trusted summary and getting a lot of untrusted feedback from DT member...  hahahaha I never wanna donating my money into scam site hahaha that's funny LOL

Because you can not...
you can only withdraw...do you know scam sites where you can only withdraw?
try it...and in short time you will see that you are paid...
do you know scam sites where in short time you have the proof that you are paid out for never having paidin?

you can HAHAHAHA so long you want...during your laugh people have earned satoshi on my site...

Red trust is not a proof...it's just feeling...
if I redtrust you...are you scammer?

3422  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The best cloud mining site !!! on: August 31, 2016, 07:45:37 PM
The site winspiral is advertising is most definitely a ponzi scheme judging from their feedback. If you put your money in that site, you should expect it to be considered a donation. Just an FYI.

you are funny...
you talk about things you do not know about...
Explain me how people can put their money in winspira'sl site if on winspiral's site it is only possible to withdraw earned money or re-invest earned money you earned for free?

I hope your absurdity has made you money ... if not...chose a better sign campaign there you are paid for writing absurdities...

3423  Other / Off-topic / Re: How do you earn money online? on: August 31, 2016, 11:42:55 AM
The principle is so easy:

I earn satoshi with my sites...
People claim my satoshi for free...
I earn more satoshi...
People keep up claiming my satoshi...
I earn more satoshi...
...etc...etc...
So easy it is...
3424  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The best cloud mining site !!! on: August 31, 2016, 11:29:47 AM
~snipped

Why are you making yourself tired for no reason? Do you think people will start using your system just by looking at your posts and by seeing your trust rating? Go play with your grand children and have some nice time, why wasting your time here?

because that guy is a scammer, with so red trust, don't trust his bullshits

The day you get red trust for wrong reason you will talk differently...
but it does not matter...
can you offer more than me?
offer 10% of all I have already offered and then you can talk with.
Are you never feeling bored for promoting your scam site in here although you are already got a lot of red trust from some of dt member in here? LOL
The child is know if you have a red trust and will never believing with you, stop promoting your scam/ponzi site.


why should I be feelling bored for informing about my site offering satoshi for free?
The people spraying out that i'm a scammer and a ponzi runner will be bored before me.
Do you know one person who has been scammed by me?
No...because such person does not exist...

Unfortunately...all hte people who supposed I'm a scammer and a ponzi runner have disappeared or are ashamed for displaying wrong things.

Try my system and you will see by yourself that my system is not a ponzi sheme...but based on real econnomy.
If you play it "blind" you will earn satoshi...
if you are clever and lucky...you will earn more...
Find me a ponzi sheme where you are sure earning or earning more...AND never losing.

I agree...sometimes I'm astonish miself to be able to offer so much satoshi at my members.
Why should I be bored so long I can offer satoshi at my members?
Why should I stop offering satoshi becaise you believe I'm a scammer?
But I'm wondering what your interest is to tell wrong things about my system?
Do you realize that you misslead people away from fun and earning?
Do you realize that you do worse than some scammers.
I accept you say that earninf 700 to 1100 satoshi for a claim is wasting time (for you) but please do not say that i'm a scammer or a ponzi runner if it is not true...Do you think it is nice to be a liar even if you believe you are saying the truth...

But...you can lie...say what you want about me or my sites...I forgive you...And I'm glad for all these "sign campaigners" answering my posts...make each time a little cash...




3425  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The best cloud mining site !!! on: August 30, 2016, 05:35:54 PM
~snipped

Why are you making yourself tired for no reason? Do you think people will start using your system just by looking at your posts and by seeing your trust rating? Go play with your grand children and have some nice time, why wasting your time here?

because that guy is a scammer, with so red trust, don't trust his bullshits

The day you get red trust for wrong reason you will talk differently...
but it does not matter...
can you offer more than me?
offer 10% of all I have already offered and then you can talk with.
3426  Other / Off-topic / Re: I will invest! on: August 30, 2016, 12:12:29 PM
Be careful with ponzi schemes and the so called investment sites, most time you will not get return on these.

But sometimes it makes profit...and I'm proud to be the donator


Do you mean you are proud to be a scammer? Because the guy above is suggesting to stay away from scam and ponzi sites which gives no profits most of the time... and you are saying they sometimes give and you are proud to be the donator.. so you run a ponzi scheme and you are proud about that??
he's saying that he's a donator so he got involved into this shaddy investment but as the investor and by saying that he is donator,he know that his money is literally will be only donated as it will be lost at the end,well,that's funny enough

I agree that it is funny...it's the only thing I agree here.
Explain me how you can lost money I offer you ...you can withdraw this money...
Have you so far heard that people among the 285 members have be scammed?
You do not help people ...in the contrary,your words decrease people's earning...

You can only agree:
each time you stand up in the morning...people are richer...yes richer because they have invested a little time in my genious free system...
Once they have spent a little time on my system...they make profit even during the sleep...
I understand that you are astonnished...
I understand that you are doubtfull...
I understand that it is hard to believe that winspiral offer satoshi to users for just spending a little time and for having fun to trade...
Because the difference with other classic systems...winspiral's members have fun and earn satoshi...
The fun is even the big unseeable part of the iceberg...

And if you do not like fun...you can just use my system like a classic faucet and then you just earn satoshi without fun  like you earn on classical faucet...perhaps with the difference that you certainly earn nowadays more than on classical faucets...

You will not found many faucets rewarding more than winspiral's system use like a classical faucet...
if you know better...you can tell me...





3427  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: August 30, 2016, 09:53:47 AM
Would be better you make some HYIP or instead it make some kind of shares program with the details that you may not RoI your investment being free or paid, I doubt anyone would invest with that information.

I have even stoped "paying investment"
The equilibrium among the big investors and the little investors and the free investors was to big...
now profit depends mainly on activity and trade skill...
As I said...i have not to promote and the system works without new members...
it's rolling well so...
3428  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The best cloud mining site !!! on: August 30, 2016, 08:07:36 AM
the best cloudmining site is
http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net

it works without mining ware because the profit is higher without mining ware...

it's unbelievable...but it is so and true.
it is even absolutly for free now...
why?
because it works without miner ware now...
At the start the system needed cash to buy the U2 antminer and eventually more...
Now all investors have been cashbacled with profit...and every one can profit from the system for free and
now it is impossible to lose because all is free and only profit...
Yes only profit...

This is not a promotion...it's an information...
The system needs no new members to live on...it's not a ponzi sheme.

The system is genious...and so far it makes profit...
It is so easy to make profit...

And you can join my system for free...

You can make profit with everything...
even with a sold u2 antminer...

You do not believe me?
seach "winspiral" on google and you see that winspiral's pages do exist...and you have to be very clever "NOT MAKING CASH" with 100 and 100 pages...

And with my cahotic (lol) u2 system you can make profit...even if some people here do not accet it...

Yes it is possible to make cash with cloudmining...just turn the miner off if it cost more than it generates coins...
Life is so easy...
have fun and profit...with my cloudmining system...I agree...it is special...(lol)
3429  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: August 30, 2016, 07:52:17 AM
If you want to do something grow you must leave the comfort zone, you should also be ready to take risk. Calculated risk, of course

Yeah, There is no safe way to grow your bitcoins without taking any risk. Risk is always there if you are going let your bitcoins grow. And if you want to grow your bitcoins safely then you can try to invest in online casino's or online gambling so that you are going to be in favor with the house edge. And you are just going to wait for your profit.

I can not understand that it is possible to put the "no safe way" in a post so you do.
Explain me:
where is the risk if you get shares for free.
The shares make profit.
You can sell for real satoshi if you want it is better to sell than claim other free shares.

Where is the risk?
You risk just to earn a little more then other members.
Where is the risk if you earn a little less?
You start with zero and you and you grow your satoshi...
where is the risk?

The only risk you take is not to profit from unrisky systems...
But if every one stuck your haed with "all is risky" and scammers are "every where",it is normal that people are afraid...

The problem is that spraying wrong things has more effect that spaying the truth...

3430  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: August 29, 2016, 04:06:45 PM
as there is no doubt about this that all investments are risky but tome one should invest money in such kind of business where one have good experience and interest in that field. as my own experience is in sports gambling therefore i will like to invest my money in sports gambling.

Investing is not only a gambling or betting but you can still invest your money in BTC, gold, real estate, stocks and in many other places. Betting investments are very risky, and you may lose all your money even though you're an expert in predicting sports results. I never consider betting or gambling as an investment.
i think every kind of investment is risky. you just need to have good experience and interested where you are going to invest your bitcoin, and even then you can minimize your lost. although gambling is a game of luck still if you have good experience and skill of gambling you can show more good result in gambling.

If you see risk every where then the best is doing nothing...If I follow risk argument here,then even sign campaign is risky because so long you have not be paid,so long a risk is possible.
3431  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - BONUS on: August 29, 2016, 01:19:38 PM
So if you spend 1 year to collect vipshares...
you will need more or less the same time to transform them in normal shares and then time if you decide to sell them.

Assuming the claim base stays the same, I would need more than a year, because of the reinvest dividend. Theoretically, one can reach a point were complete cash back of the VIP shares is impossible. This happens when reinvest dividend exceeds the claim base. But even in this case, VIP shares generate a dividend, so there is still profit.

you are right...
I went not in details...it was just to point that vipshares are not "liquid" cash.
When you decide to transform vip shares in shares and thenin  satoshi...
the destroy bonus and the sell bonus matter much as well.
Nowadays...if you sell shares you have more shares after selling than before...
This situation can not be for long if many shares are sold...

I agree...even for "little shareholders"...empty an account is not easy because when you sell you get bonus.

Sellings are seldome...it is why the bonus is high.
I have not analysed if selling is a good option.

Any way...5 options...5 different ways to earn more or less...


Quote
Assuming the claim base stays the same

We cannot forecast the claimbase because it depends a little on the income and much on the number of claimers.

If many claimers the claim base will decrease.
On the other side many claimers should increase the global part I can offer for reinvestment and dividends.


...... ...... ...... ...... ......
All members have been paid out following the payout rules.
if you have over 10000 satoshi pending you can request an earlier payout.
I do not recommand you this possibility because it is an advantage to be paid more than 10000 satoshi by normal way.
of course if you have no dust fees...you can ask...(even if it makes me special work)

3432  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - BONUS on: August 29, 2016, 11:13:19 AM
I do understand, but I still see a long term advantage in vipshares. Anyway, I will change my strategy at some point

if you see a long term advantage in vipshares you are more or less wrong or right because it is depending on what other people do.
let's suppose that many many people claim the vipshares:
then the vipclaim bonus will be very low and the investment will rise...so the dividends rate can decrease.

Selling share can be not interesting because sold shares make no profit...ok...but if never sell...the sell bonus will go very up...

To be honnest I have so fare not taken the time to analyse which claim option is the best because I'm not concerned.

I agree that it is not an easy game for people who want trying to get the best profit from the system.

Soon all investors who have invested from their poket will see a profit.
Some have invested and were absolutly inactive.This has not helped much the system.(But thanks for their trust)
I recall:it's not a ponzi sheme.
No need to attract new members to pay the old ones.
But never forgot one thing:
The automatic cashback is slow and not for vipshares.
So if you spend 1 year to collect vipshares...
you will need more or less the same time to transform them in normal shares and then time if you decide to sell them.

I would not like being taken for a scammer because users have not understood the system.

It is the same with the captcha shares:

Quote
Number total of captcha solved and not sold: 834 .
Captcha value : 7.1641558753E-7
Captcha share pot: 0.0005974906
Total sold captcha shares value: 0.0004683352
Value generated(Captcha share pot)+(Total sold captcha shares value)=0.0010658258 BTC


Do not believe it is nothing.
The captcha share price is fluctuating...it can go up and down.I'm sure all members have not understood the captcha system.
it is hard to see if it is better to sell or rebuy...but one thing is sure:
We can see that it was some time ago worth to sell.
...
Follow the captchashare's price on the graph and you will see if you have managed for the best.





3433  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Le bitcoin devrait remonter on: August 28, 2016, 12:59:54 PM
oui, sans doute on en reparlera.
avec des arguments abscons et sans pouvoir trancher ni dans un sens ni dans l'autre quant à l'aspect prédictif des triangles ou autres figures tracés n'importe comment.

vous y croyez vraiment au triangle des Bermudes? (lol)
3434  Other / Off-topic / Re: I will invest! on: August 28, 2016, 09:56:38 AM
Be careful with ponzi schemes and the so called investment sites, most time you will not get return on these.

But sometimes it makes profit...and I'm proud to be the donator


Do you mean you are proud to be a scammer? Because the guy above is suggesting to stay away from scam and ponzi sites which gives no profits most of the time... and you are saying they sometimes give and you are proud to be the donator.. so you run a ponzi scheme and you are proud about that??
I'm proud to run an economical safe buziness.
My members are as well owner of my system and many among them have already made profit.
And yes I'm proud of this...
I have fun to help people to earn little cash with the time I spend on the net...
Yes i'm proud that I have generated profit for my members during the 25 years or so I am a webmaster
I have never seen a scammer living over 20 years on the net with the same nickname...
Like me...have fun and profit.
3435  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to collect BTC ?? on: August 28, 2016, 09:45:49 AM
there is some ptc sites that pay out bitcoins,all you need to do is click the rewards everyday and earn bitcoin,i suggest you to refer friends and you earn a comision from there earnings hope this helps you a lot,,









https://adsdivision.com/default.aspx?u=46759

PTC sites are just a waste of time just like faucets, you will spend a lot of time there just to earn a few cents everyday and that really isnt worth it.
And it is not easy to find referrals for such places like faucets and PTC sites because everyone knows that they will just be wasting their time if they do these things so no one joins.

They are all the same , earn a small amount  in a long period of time which is not really  good  and  not worth into our precious time. I agree  getting referal is really hard since anybody knows  that  faucets are just a waste of time. Its better  to join in signature campaigns and also have a better income with it.

you do not help me...smaill amount in a long time is saying nothing.
tell us how much in how long...then you help us and we are old enough to know if it is a small amount or a long time...
3436  Other / Off-topic / Re: I will invest! on: August 27, 2016, 05:59:22 PM
Be careful with ponzi schemes and the so called investment sites, most time you will not get return on these.

But sometimes it makes profit...and I'm proud to be the donator
3437  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: August 27, 2016, 02:30:07 PM
Ponzi and HYIP are not safe for your money,,, use it by trading altcoin in altcoin exchanger
why trading altcoin ?
because we can manage it fully . when you will buy or sell its defend to you . you wanna make big profit, surely it will take your cost big also
Especially trading in the crowded place will giving a different feel, because the rotation of the price is very fast and you can getting a daily basis for your profit and trading is always become the best way compared with another way for growing your bitcoin in this time.

I agree, no to investing in ponzis or hyips anymore. Their promised income gets worst or too good to be true as time passes to attract more investors. Only a fool will believe them. I would rather do altcoin trading. Although some of altcoins nowadays sre scam but with the right knowledge and research you can grow your bitcoin safely from it.

Yeah, ponzi,hyips and cloud mining are all just the same which are all scams in the long run. Based on the op's earning its not enough on making investments but he can save up so that he would able to expand more or engage on some investment. As others said trading would be good.

The big problem is you see ponzi and hyip everywhere...
people are only here to say that all investment sites are ponzi...
why do you never talos about serious economical systems where profit is sure and where you can only earn?

It seems that people are afraid to show that they are wrong:
How long my site must run to be accepted by the ponzi psychopaths?...5 years...10 years?...100 years?



3438  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - BONUS on: August 27, 2016, 11:01:33 AM
I feel it is not very clear for most of u2 system users.

The problem is it is very very clear for me...
So I do not know about what I could clear up...

To "image" a situation,I like give an extrême situation.

Let's suppose a member try to claim only vipshares and if he get pending payout satoshi he reinvest them.
He does so "only" and for ever.
Hes account will grow and grow and grow...
But he will certainly  never get or seldomly a payout.

Remember that if you claim daily vip share during 5 years you need perhaps 5 years to change them in normal shares if claim base does not change.

if many users do like you...the vipbonus will be very low because it depends on the number of vip claiming.

Remember:
it's a game "market regulated"
Feel free to ask question about if it is not clear.

3439  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - BONUS on: August 25, 2016, 10:06:53 PM
The "job" is to get the maximum profit at the end...

When is the end?

We have different ends...

I hope never by accident...
The end can be done by me...i hope long in the future...(I'm 64)
But the end can be programmed by the member heself by stopplng claiming

But do not worry...the end is not yet programmed by me.
at the end...perhaps a wrong translation from French to English

I see that "in fine" is as well used in English...
So ...I would say:
Choice the option to have the best profit "in fine".
3440  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Claiming for free - Re-investment - BONUS on: August 25, 2016, 08:12:28 PM
How do i get value from the 31000 account value, is it just when i sell shares now?

when you sell shares or when the system gives cash back or dividends.
The "job" is to get the maximum profit at the end...
selling is quick payout
best profit depends on what other people do and how much dividends are paid.
The bonus do matter as well.
All I am saying here is "deductible" on the site.
As I said...the bonusses change...it's the game...

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