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3421  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens if BU fails VS What happens if SegWit fails on: March 07, 2017, 10:18:28 AM
They can have their blocks rejected despite any of that.


Time to change your underwear, off you scuttle
3422  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open Letter to GMaxwell and Sincere Rational Core Devs on: March 07, 2017, 10:17:19 AM
Put the pipe away, it's not doing you any favours
3423  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens if BU fails VS What happens if SegWit fails on: March 07, 2017, 10:02:47 AM
If they're not making any BTC mining, they will have nothing to pay their bills.


The End. Grin
3424  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A Lightning Tx *IS* a bitcoin Tx, and here's why: on: March 07, 2017, 09:55:12 AM
You have zero clue, and consequently have no business speaking in the Technical discussion sub
3425  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens if BU fails VS What happens if SegWit fails on: March 07, 2017, 09:51:35 AM
You should break out the CarltonDance gif instead, as that's literally what I was actually doing Grin


Can you explain, lo-kicker, how the Unlimited pool will pay out 110% of anything when their blocks keep getting rejected? These people are going to have one nasty electricy bill to pay

Grin
3426  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Creating A System of Online Peer To Peer Bitcoin Bank Accounts on: March 07, 2017, 09:46:24 AM
There is a need to have a coherent conversation, and my tolerance for poor quality discourse is low.
3427  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open Letter to GMaxwell and Sincere Rational Core Devs on: March 07, 2017, 09:43:53 AM


This should read "intents and purposes". Are you copy-pasting from somewhere, or did you just repeat it without understanding it's meaning
no chance you read that and thought they copy pasted.

There's no chance Quickseller wrote it and actually understood what he/it was writing.
3428  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens if BU fails VS What happens if SegWit fails on: March 07, 2017, 09:41:16 AM
What's 110% of zero? Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1804141.msg18095902#msg18095902
3429  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A Lightning Tx *IS* a bitcoin Tx, and here's why: on: March 07, 2017, 09:40:36 AM
Do you think the corresponding drop in difficulty will attract new participants to mining (hint: it will)
3430  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Creating A System of Online Peer To Peer Bitcoin Bank Accounts on: March 07, 2017, 09:22:49 AM
The LN proposal with direct channels is interesting, but not sure its exactly what I have in mind.

What you need in mind is reading comprehension; your replying about LN when I wasn't even talking about it
3431  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-03-06] The New 110% Unlimited Bitcoin.com Mining Pool is Now Open to Every on: March 07, 2017, 09:07:41 AM
What's 110% of zero? Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1804141.msg18095902#msg18095902
3432  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A Lightning Tx *IS* a bitcoin Tx, and here's why: on: March 07, 2017, 09:05:41 AM
For all we I know it might just kill the coin

FTFY

You sound like a miner that's about to get his lunch eaten Cheesy All LN will do is remove even more power from the miners to behave in bad faith, they're developing a bit of a superiority complex it seems
3433  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open Letter to GMaxwell and Sincere Rational Core Devs on: March 07, 2017, 08:59:01 AM
the banking system as a whole can lend out that $1 again -- this can be repeated for all intensive purposes unlimited number of times

This should read "intents and purposes". Are you copy-pasting from somewhere, or did you just repeat it without understanding it's meaning
3434  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Creating A System of Online Peer To Peer Bitcoin Bank Accounts on: March 07, 2017, 08:35:41 AM
So I say to my employer, well I don't have a Bitcoin bank account number - the best I can do is to send you a long list of 32-bit or whatever BIP32 chain of addresses. Just don't mix them up, transpose any digits, or mislay them.

The banking system doesn't tolerate mistakes in their account numbers either.

And let me know when they run out so I can then send you some more!

It's essentially an infinite chain, so when infinity runs out, you will indeed have to furnish people using it with a new one.
3435  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Fundamental problem: Lightning Network leads to centralization and less security on: March 07, 2017, 08:31:57 AM
As a first step the nodes could no longer relay blocks of the hostile pool owners.

Let's do it. Antminer can get bricked IMO
3436  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Creating A System of Online Peer To Peer Bitcoin Bank Accounts on: March 07, 2017, 08:22:25 AM
So how do I make regular payments from my Bitcoin account? Eg standing debit orders. How do I pay my monthly rent? How do I receive my salary?

Using payment channels. There are 3rd party services for this already (and demonstrates to the receiving party how many months of the service for which you are sufficiently solvent to pay for at any given time). p2p payment channels can be made with bitcoinj or Lightning (currently WIP)


If my employer says to me, what is your Bitcoin bank account number, what do I tell him?

What is my Bitcoin account? At the moment there is nothing.

Either you give people who wish to pay you a BIP32 chain of addresses (represented by a deterministic code), or you could open a payment channel between you and your employer. The former is probably more appropriate for this use case.
3437  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Fundamental problem: Lightning Network leads to centralization and less security on: March 06, 2017, 09:39:01 PM
Nice try, miner support for Segwit is 25.6%  Keep on wishing for that 101% and keep on ignoring the giant mempool and borderline-unusable-for-normal-transactions bitcoin network.

Segwit compatible nodes are 51% of the network. You didn't ask about miners, you stated that a majority of users had rejected it.


If you really think moving the goalposts is how to win the game, you must be more stupid than the audience you believe you can fool


if you're claiming 6000 bitcoin nodes then you're stretching a bit, and you're including the 700+ Unlimited nodes, LOL. I've heard anectodally that the total number of bitcoin nodes was at 20k at one point, but fell as the blockchain size increased dramatically.  Do you think that 6000 LN nodes would make the network secure and allow payments to be process at the claimed rates?

They're all Bitcoin nodes, because they have to behave like Bitcoin nodes to participate in the network, by definition. Anything that doesn't observe the rules is rejected, you're arguing non-pertinent semantics, not technical details

Which part of "anyone can start a p2p Lightning node" don't you understand?

"Anyone can swap the engine in their Honda Civic".
"Anyone can become an astronaut"

I find it frightening that you're proposing that random fools should run a node in this secure network. Imagine the security implications...

More concerned that you believe using the Bitcoin software "isn't for everyone". There are no security implications, it only strengthens the network. Stop using unqualified statements to discourage people to run a node, it's a highly irresponsible falsehood
3438  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: about high priority transaction on: March 06, 2017, 09:05:08 PM
its been many since i started asking you to learn about bitcoin. please take less time trolling as if you know, and more time actually learning to actually know. then you may find yourself able to help the community more. rather than just crying "wrong"

if nodes get consensus pools block attempts end up getting rejected by not following the rules and miss out on their rewards and just wasting their own time doing empty blocks because the 20second-2minute advantage of doing empty blocks becomes useless because their blocks get rejected anyway with such an example nod consensus rule.
I call bullshit on this. Good luck gaining majority of node consensus on such an useless suggestion like that. Oh right, you can't. The same way you can't force miners to do anything. Roll Eyes

remember
nodes= bosses
pools=secretary
devs=workers

we already know YOU think devs=boss and devs give power to pools. but thats not how bitcoin works or should work. which is why the soft fork is undecided
There you go again, with your false analogies and stupid conspiracy theories.

He's losing his shit

Just about every franky/jonald/jbreher post these days reads:

"No! You don't understand Bitcoin! It works like " <long boring description of how BU works>



In your dreams, dickheads
3439  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open Letter to GMaxwell and Sincere Rational Core Devs on: March 06, 2017, 07:09:20 PM
are these your own ideals you are applying to the problem domain?

Yes, although it's unlikely they're original, someone else is bound to have recognised this too. I'm sure a more refined or more universal theory can make better sense of the uselessness paradox.
3440  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open Letter to GMaxwell and Sincere Rational Core Devs on: March 06, 2017, 07:01:29 PM
The uselessness idea is new since the gold standard and has led us to this massive bubble where prosperity has not really been achieved because it has been on on the backs of future work.

Remember that the "borrowing future prosperity" model is a consequence not of paper money per se, but of the sovereign bonds used to "back" it's value. It's a reflection of the virtue of uselessness in money being a sophisticated concept; just like with Bitcoin, many regular people will not buy the idea that inventing a form of money is valid, so some narrative about what makes the money valuable is required to aid acceptance. Telling people that it's good money because it's even more perfectly useless than the last form of money will be typically difficult to swallow.
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