remember the 10,000 btc pizzas?
What about them? You used to be able to buy a loaf of bread for nickle. Prices change. The price didn't change. Your money went through inflation over the years. Your nickel has lost about 97% of it's purchasing power (give or take). The gas you are pouring into your tank is also paid for in inflated fiat. Every time you see the price go up at the pump, that just means your dollars are worth less to the petroleum producers. Chances are, if you paid in gold you wouldn't notice the change in price from the 1970's till now. If anything, it should be slightly cheaper. Money printing is to blame. Each new dollar (from thin air) shaves a little more value off the ultimate pool of currency already in circulation. The value grows but the quality of each dollar does not.
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I don't know why people complain of the heat coming off the Avalon. mine seems to run pretty cool (29~30C) at ambient temperatures. (75 to 80F~)
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If you are not familiar, you'll have plenty of fun trying to master vi first though ;-)
Fun....yes....lots of um fun.
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With your collective help I got it going.
Despite following the Wiki's instructions I did not know I had to restart the cgminer process.
Like JohnyJ I assume it would automatically "work" if you just plugged it in. Strangely, even with a hard reset it still didn't work. If I manually reset the process it did pick up the changes.
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How do I go about doing that? (I don't know the linux system very well)
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I applied the API allow fix, didn't work.
I reflashed the firmware without saving the previous configuration. It started to hash away on the default settings that come with the firmware.
Soon as I changed the settings to BTCGuild (with stratum) it went right back into the same error.
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Any ideas?
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I also find these lines in the Kernel Log:
[ 27.800000] br-lan: received packet on eth0 with own address as source address [ 30.800000] br-lan: received packet on eth0 with own address as source address [ 30.830000] br-lan: received packet on eth0 with own address as source address [ 31.030000] br-lan: received packet on eth0 with own address as source address [ 961.170000] br-lan: received packet on eth0 with own address as source address [ 1090.480000] br-lan: received packet on eth0 with own address as source address
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I ran into the same problem tonight, it is caused first by 30 minutes of no internet connectivity due to my ISP's problem with their gateway (20 minutes), then cgminer restarted itself several times by cron and eventually entered into a mode that only throw error message like this in status page:
Socket connect failed: Connection refused Socket connect failed: Connection refused Socket connect failed: Connection refused Socket connect failed: Connection refused
After network connection alive again, even a hard restart won't change the cgminer's error, so flash the firmware is the only choice and it fixed the problem for now
I have come across the exact same problem. It won't mine. Did you flash the firmware without the previous configuration?
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Got mine early in the morning.
#5x4 (USA)
How many units total? Enjoy your mining. 1 only. Good to see your 4 are churning hashes.
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Got mine early in the morning.
#5x4 (USA)
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People are so short sighted when their eyes are filled with greed. I fully support Avalon and believe they will come out on top for a long time to come. They did what BFL could not do, ship a working product in a desirable time frame. If I buy a Minirig, I am sure Avalon will bring me back to my senses with Gen2 and Gen3. At which point I will ask for the trade in value @ BFL. haha Either way, like Avalon says, we should stop looking at Bitcoin as a vehicle for USD. I am thinking of opening up my own shop that sells goods for BTC. I believe that is what Avalon wanted to spark in the hearts of Miners. In either case, my first (ever) miner was an Avalon Gen1.3 I expect good things from them in the coming days.
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Why Avalons greed is bad..
1) Only those who already own an ASIC can generate enough Bitcoins to buy the next Avalon ASIC run. 2) This will concentrate Bitcoin block solving power into just a small amount of hands. 3) This flies in the face of what Bitcoin was supposed to be, a large distributed network of nodes. 4) If this continues you run the risk of the Bitcoin community abandoning the project for LiteCoin.
People are paying $30,000 for BFL Mini-rigs and ordering 30 Singles, so it's clear that "only those who already own an ASIC..." is a bullshit argument - many people have placed orders of much greater value with BFL. Hashing power is going to concentrate in the hands of those who have funds - whether it's BTC or USD - period. Mining arms races are going to continue and there are always going to be some miners prepared to pay a premium to gain a temporary advantage over others. It's the nature of the beast. I might just buy a BFL Minirig.
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I just got mine!
2xxxx504
It is a big box!
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if you want to replace the fan, please use ONE 12038(or 12044) size, 4PIN PWM, 12V , with at least 3600RPM maximum speed. ball bearing is recommend.
a 1200rpm 12025 fan (or 2 in series ) will of course kill the machine.
For future reference those number are decoded as: "If you want to replace the fan, please use ONE 120mm x 38mm (or 120mm x 44mm) size, 4PIN PWM, 12V , with at least 3600RPM maximum speed. ball bearing is recommend. a 1200rpm 120mm x 25mm fan (or 2 in series ) will of course kill the machine."
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If anything, Batch 3 customers will make Avalon the Golden goose. Their greed will power the next shrink.
As long as I don't pay the high price, I don't care who puts their money into it. It will only secure Avalon's future viability.
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I voted yes. I'm an agent of chaos.
Checks his credentials.... "You are coming along very well...."
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Friz is a Saint!
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I really wish the BTC to crash hard just after Avalon starts taking order. We shall see what happens to their BTC 88 - 115 payment plan. Greedy bastards.
How are they any more greedy than miners? Based on this thread, miners themselves have no confidence in BTC and view it only as a means to earn USD. Bwahahaha, this the exact reason why I don't respect some of my potential customers, I don't even want money from these people. In afterthought, raising the price it must stopped a lot people were purchasing because how brainless the profit was, now there is some math and faith involved. I assume that was the feeling. Many are finding out what happens when you deal with a principled business person. I was "really?" at first, but then after thinking about it, it didn't seem bad. With a ROI of 6-12 months, you know they will keep the gear on the network for that time, keeps it just the much more secure. Hope people are looking at other motives than just profits. Come on. They are just pushing their profit to the maximum giving the circumstance that right now they have no competition, that's all. They even acknowledge that now ROI is not guaranteed, you need "math and faith". So the current pricing + the greed taking over will make them sell out the units, making a huge profit, while is quite possible (but not certain) that the batch #3 buyers will not even recoup their costs. That said, I think they did a great move for themselves: they set the right price for people still buying the whole batch, in perfect correlation with the current exchange rate. If they priced the units let's say a 20% higher, maybe they would have a problem selling all the units. I just think your not putting yourself in their shoes. For the timetable they are delivering and BFL not giving guidance, it is correctly priced for the time being. You need to look long term and think about why you are purchasing these units. Am I tantalized about the prospects of getting a great ROI, of course but I am also prepare to run these units over 1-2 years+ if I need too and then upgrade to Gen2+. I believe Avalon will at at this for a while and I know they have tricks up their sleeves so in the end you need to ask yourself, do you trust BitSyncom/Avalon, their intentions and principles or not? Yes, like any one else, they could choose to totally screw us over but that is the risk you have to bear or not. At the point, it doesn't matter to me, I have made my decision and we will see how my faith placed in their company will pan out. I feel I have made the right choice and continuing to support them will be the right choice for me. If I am wrong, I will be the first to admit it as well and learn. Lets hope they keep backward compatibility with Gen 2 modules. Keeping your Avalon and buying newer modules may very well turn out to be very profitable. Like you, I have Faith in the company that they know how to play their cards.
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I really wish the BTC to crash hard just after Avalon starts taking order. We shall see what happens to their BTC 88 - 115 payment plan. Greedy bastards.
How are they any more greedy than miners? Based on this thread, miners themselves have no confidence in BTC and view it only as a means to earn USD. Bwahahaha, this the exact reason why I don't respect some of my potential customers, I don't even want money from these people. In afterthought, raising the price it must stopped a lot people were purchasing because how brainless the profit was, now there is some math and faith involved. I assume that was the feeling. Many are finding out what happens when you deal with a principled business person. I was "really?" at first, but then after thinking about it, it didn't seem bad. With a ROI of 6-12 months, you know they will keep the gear on the network for that time, keeps it just the much more secure. Hope people are looking at other motives than just profits. Come on. They are just pushing their profit to the maximum giving the circumstance that right now they have no competition, that's all. They even acknowledge that now ROI is not guaranteed, you need "math and faith". So the current pricing + the greed taking over will make them sell out the units, making a huge profit, while is quite possible (but not certain) that the batch #3 buyers will not even recoup their costs. That said, I think they did a great move for themselves: they set the right price for people still buying the whole batch, in perfect correlation with the current exchange rate. If they priced the units let's say a 20% higher, maybe they would have a problem selling all the units. Let us hope that the greedy, those with fat wallets or tons of BTC will fund their next process node jump. Godspeed Team Avalon!
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or you can 4 unit for 240 GH of power for the same price of one avalon
One hopes that Gen 2 is slated for 240Gh/s. We can dream!
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