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3441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping on: January 31, 2016, 10:15:30 AM
Ups, a nice price dump. It seems Chinese New Year and exchange of crypto into Yuans has had a lot of infuence on Factom. Let s hope this is temporary.
3442  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to invest in Bitcoin businesses? on: January 31, 2016, 07:57:44 AM
There is a profitable investment.

Take a look at this option:

http://bit.diamonds/auction.html
3443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: January 31, 2016, 07:57:00 AM
6 out of 10 legendary staking addresses have been sold or received bids. 4 more to go with one being reserved. I suggest you take a look into this, only 5 days to go and there will be no other auction like this. This is a unique opportunity to grab a very nice crypto asset.

http://bit.diamonds/auction.html
3444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoin staking - the new way to get altcoins and stay in the game on: January 31, 2016, 07:54:13 AM
6 out of 10 legendary staking addresses have been sold or received bids. 4 more to go with one being reserved. I suggest you take a look into this, only 5 days to go and there will be no other auction like this. This is a unique opportunity to grab a very nice crypto asset.

http://bit.diamonds/auction.html
3445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: DMD Diamond cloud assistance service - 60% ROI the moment you invest on: January 31, 2016, 07:52:29 AM
6 out of 10 legendary staking addresses have been sold or received bids. 4 more to go with one being reserved. I suggest you take a look into this, only 5 days to go and there will be no other auction like this. This is a unique opportunity to grab a very nice crypto asset.

http://bit.diamonds/auction.html
3446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: DMD Diamond Legendary 10 - A great opportunity for investment on: January 31, 2016, 07:50:44 AM
6 out of 10 legendary staking addresses have been sold or received bids. 4 more to go with one being reserved. I suggest you take a look into this, only 5 days to go and there will be no other auction like this. This is a unique opportunity to grab a very nice crypto asset.

http://bit.diamonds/auction.html
3447  Economy / Securities / Re: Anything sustainable worth of investing? on: January 31, 2016, 07:46:03 AM


in case the opportunity is to big for u
u can get at least 150 DMD by find someone who can take it



https://bit.diamonds/auction.html


(first round only two legendary10 are avaiable and both have a bid already!)

(The Allnatt Diamond: Unique Crypto Asset)is at 2.6 BTC

and other /The Moussaieff Red Diamond: Unique Crypto Asset) at 3.5 BTC already

so in fact both stones of phase 1 are above starting bid of phase 2 already

6 out of 10 legendary staking addresses have been sold or received bids. 4 more to go with one being reserved. I suggest you take a look into this, DMD has brought me nothing but profits. Yes, I am a holder and a long time supporter.
3448  Economy / Securities / Re: Bitcoin mining project, entry level investment on: January 31, 2016, 07:43:40 AM
My usual questions, verifiable NAMES of people behind it, social network profiles, registration data, anything which add to the transparency of this operation? You have to understand, with so many scams around, people do not tend to trust online mining investments.
3449  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] HaoBTC, mining dividend paid out hourly on: January 31, 2016, 07:41:49 AM
What's in it for us is the interest earned on deposited coins.  There really isn't anything more to it. They use our invested capital to expand their farm, and we earn interest payments for temporarily loaning our coins.

Haobtc can't help the fact that the bitcoin network is constantly increasing which shrinks their margins just like any miner.  If btc price keeps appreciating they will be able to afford to make the interest payments a little longer but not forever at the same rate.

I understand that but even Hashnest Pacmic, which is basically the same things, pays about 12% a year, so about 3-4x HAO. This is a very competitive market, that s my entire point. I m not going to comment anymore on this.

The HaoBTC has a 12-15% interest rate for monthly saving account, it is better than the Pacmic. If the difficulty rise, you might not get back the original investment from Pacmic.

12-15%? I was told it s just above 3%. Please clarify this.

HaoBTC offers two types of accounts:
Wallet: interest rate 3% APR
Finance: interest rate 12% - 15.58% APR; interest rate increases incrementally every month


Ok, I see thx. This sounds OK but I do think 10 BTC deposit limit for the Finance option is a bit too much. 5 BTC would be probably acceptable. Fixed savings account is fine, no withdrawal for a period of time.
3450  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitcoin Cloud Mining with HashFlare on: January 31, 2016, 07:39:22 AM
This is what I see when I log into HF. This means I cannot withdraw at the moment. Hope this will be resolved asap. Smiley

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Attention! The automated email service we use is currently experiencing technical issues. There is no given timeframe on when the situation will be under control. In case of any questions or additional issues please contact our support. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
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I see that too and I made a withdrawal yesterday. It does not mean you cannot withdraw, it only means you might wait for a few hours for the confirmation e-mail. Request withdrawal and be patient. Pls report back here if something s wrong.
3451  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: January 31, 2016, 07:37:07 AM
The fact with these ponzies is they never give up. Unbelievable.

Why should they ? The fact is mining is not profitable, it cannot be because of energy costs. The rares ones who can have it profitable (energy almost free) mine for themselves.

So you can sell contract proved unprofitable if people buy them. And you can honestly close them when you decide because they are not profitable. This is legit.
You don't have to buy and maintain expensive hardware. Just pay dust payouts to customers as long as you can, they will be satisfied.

Once you paid back 75% of what they gave, you close contract. The secret is to pay these 75% for a long time (months or years).

You cannot lose money, you are legit and you can continue as long as noob newcomers give you their money. The longer your business exists, the more you look legit (you are) and the more people will shout everywhere you are because they get payouts for months (but will never reach ROI Smiley ).

This not a ponzi because you even don't need new customers to pay old ones.


Home mining IS still profitable if you know what to mine and if u live in a country with a decent electricity price. I pay 7 cents for example, home user.  Cloud mining, that one is a tough nut to crack. If these services are not profitable at all, how come Hashnest s got tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands active users? Are they all really blind morons who enjoy wasting their money?
3452  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Need some expert opinion here guys :) on: January 31, 2016, 07:32:12 AM
Credit Card charge back is a major issue. This is why all major sites like Payza or Solid Trust Pay allow buying BTC only with debit cards or wire. I suggest you pay attention to that.
3453  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: January 30, 2016, 04:58:44 PM
My plan is to get rich through bitcoins is to first collect good amount of bitcoins in my digital wallet. and then if the rate is going high upto 600 USD per bitcoins then I will sell it for my new business of garments.

That's good strategy and seems working, but what if the Bitcoin's price don't get this highest price ?
I think the bitcoin's price will increase soon, but also we have to be careful for every case

The price s going to go up way above $600, withing a year, so this plan is very mediocre. I dont plan selling anything until BTC hits $3k per BTC. Remember, real investors are very, very, VERY patient.
3454  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you still believe in bitcoin on: January 30, 2016, 08:34:54 AM
Do I believe?

Dude, halving is just around the corner, I do not think you understand what kind of implications will it have on 6 billion USD industry.

It ll move BTC from the area of a game or a hobby to an area of real business. Just wait and see.
3455  Economy / Services / Re: I want to invest ... on: January 30, 2016, 08:31:56 AM
To be honest ,investing on domain/servers is not really some serious start-up will like to invest on.The first they they will buy is the domain and the servers ,which comes for quite cheap.The main investment part either comes for hiring the programmers or marketing etc.How much is your budget ? Don't invest on the ideas,invest on the product.Make sure the blue print of the model is ready,beta version is ready and the project is not in its very first discussions.Because if the product takes another 6 months to launch ,your investment is of no use as you could have invested the same amount in something else which would have given atleast some returns for the time wasted in 6 months.

+1

If u have a business idea and cannot come up with $200 to finance domain/server expenditures, then u re a lousy businessman. Not a problem to make that kind of money in crypto, it does take a bit of time and work, but very, very possible.
3456  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What do you think of CLDMine? on: January 30, 2016, 08:29:47 AM
Its highly possible these are scammers. Stay away.


It s not only possible, they are scammers. Only total morons can have any doubt in it. If you like to gamble on something, use gambling websites.
3457  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: January 30, 2016, 08:28:31 AM
S5 prices are nicely adjusting the cruel reality however S7 hashes keep being brutally overpriced. There will be huge drop in price probably only after people realize that at this speed of difficulty growth the S7 will NOT survive halving.

Well, it is said that modern man suffers from lack of understanding of exponential functions. Doubling time, compounded interest etc.

Difficulty History

Date   Difficulty   Change   Hash Rate
Jan 26 2016   120,033,340,651 5.89%   859,232,121 GH/s
Jan 13 2016   113,354,299,801 9.12%   811,421,684 GH/s
Dec 31 2015   103,880,340,815 11.16%   743,604,444 GH/s
Dec 18 2015   93,448,670,796   18.14%   668,931,642 GH/s
Dec 06 2015   79,102,380,900   8.77%   566,236,898 GH/s
Nov 24 2015   72,722,780,643   10.44%   520,569,941 GH/s
Nov 11 2015   65,848,255,180   5.77%   471,360,171 GH/s
Oct 29 2015   62,253,982,450   2.25%   445,631,364 GH/s
Oct 15 2015   60,883,825,480   0.12%   435,823,399 GH/s
Oct 01 2015   60,813,224,039   2.49%   435,318,014 GH/s
Sep 17 2015   59,335,351,234   4.17%   424,738,988 GH/s
Sep 04 2015   56,957,648,455   4.98%   407,718,729 GH/s
Aug 22 2015   54,256,630,328   2.95%   388,384,088 GH/s

Yeah it's strange for me.
1 Month ago S5 had around 40% of the cost. Now it's close to 80&

Well, it s obvious after halving nothing will survive besides S7 and even that one will be at close to 90%. So, we need new miners, much more efficient or we need the price to go up big time.
3458  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: January 30, 2016, 08:27:15 AM
I would like to introduce Lbtcl.com, a new hash rate market. Currently, you can buy 1TH for 0.59BTC. Check it out.

The fact with these ponzies is they never give up. Unbelievable.
3459  Other / Off-topic / Re: Worst mistake you did with Bitcoin? on: January 30, 2016, 08:25:39 AM
Ore-mine was mine biggest mistake ever. Bought all lvl 1t/m4 mines around 180€ I gues.

That one was so, so, SO obvious scam. Sorry for your loss.
3460  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The thing that will destroy Bitcoin. on: January 30, 2016, 08:24:26 AM
I also do not think blockchain size is an issue. Storage devices grow in capacity, year after year. Take a look what we considered a medium sized HDD two years ago and what we consider it to be now.

This block capacity issue is what worries me more. FFS, they cannot agree on it for 6 months.
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