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3441  Economy / Speculation / Re: At 100k to 1M BTC states will have to buy in to remian solvent. on: November 07, 2020, 04:56:03 PM
At 100k to 1M BTC states will have to buy in to remain solvent, which I think will be the main driver in that era.

See you all in 2027~2030.

Why would Bitcoin's price have some macroeconomic effects? Bitcoin used to cost fractions of a penny, then a few dollars, then a few hundreds, now $15,500 but nothing changed in regards to how governments view it, aside from some bans or regulations. Bitcoin has zero influence on world's economy.

Basically ever since BTC almost topped $16K all over Reddit, Crypto twitter and Bitcointalk, there are people not only calling for $20K they are calling for crazy numbers like $50K, or $100K and some even calling for $300K or $1 million BTC.

Last time it was the same, when Bitcoin reached $20k, people were saying that it's on the road to 100k, that anyone who is selling now is a fool, and newcomers were rushing to buy, not knowing that few months later they will sell at a big loss.
3442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is doing Pump & Dump before the US Election results are finalized on: November 07, 2020, 01:57:12 PM
There is no reasonable explanation as to why Bitcoin is flying high to $15,600 without referring to the US Elections.

Here's a reasonable explanation - institutional investors are FOMOing, based on previously established momentum from bullish news like PayPal adoption and Microstrategy and other companies using it as reserve asset. Stocks and traditional markets aren't doing well, so institutional investors decided to look for alternative options, and Bitcoin happened to be bullish, so now it's even more bullish. The US election explanation actually doesn't make sense, because Trump or Biden - it changes nothing, they both don't care about Bitcoin and aren't going to ban it or support it.
3443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it over for Binance IEO? on: November 07, 2020, 01:20:04 PM
People have moved on to DeFi, no one cares about IEO and ICO anymore. Eventually a new sort of scam under the guise of decentralized technology will emerge to replace DeFi. It has always been clear that ICO and IEO can't replace traditional funding, especially for the reason that it's not regulated and investors don't get any guarantees, even with IEOs where exchanges supposedly vouch for the project. Similarly, DeFi won't replace traditional finance, because investors aren't really getting any guarantees or legal protection, and the "code is law" mantra actually means that any bugs and hacks, that are quite common in DeFi, are law too.
3444  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: lets imagine world without fiat currency on: November 07, 2020, 12:14:31 PM
Bitcoin will never replace fiat currency, so it's not a problem. Bitcoin has too many unsolved problems to do so - scalability, hard user experience, price volatility to name a few. Governments will not allow Bitcoin to replace fiat, a simple ban is more than enough to stop mass adoption and leave Bitcoin as nothing more but a tool for darknet transactions. Just because a lot of Bitcoiners imagine and say that Bitcoin will be a dominant form of money, doesn't mean it's actually going to happen. And its price rise isn't a proof that it's happening.
3445  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Silk Road wallet worth more $1B possibly has been hacked on: November 07, 2020, 10:16:57 AM
Either chainanalysis got really strong now, or the hacker made some serious mistakes when handling the stolen coins, and it's probably the latter, because otherwise we'd see a lot of stolen coins suddenly being identified. This kinda shows us that no one is immune from mistakes, even people who are l33t enough to steal billions of dollars worth of coins.

The American intelligence services noted that this is the largest amount for the entire existence of cryptocurrencies that they have confiscated. And now the most interesting thing begins - who exactly will become the owner of all this fabulous wealth ??

Someone who will buy them from the auction, obviously. I'm sure there won't be a shortage of people willing to buy the coins, especially if they will be sold at a slightly below market price.
3446  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bloomberg Financial Journalist Tracy Alloway Flips: I'm bullish on BTC now on: November 07, 2020, 10:05:22 AM
IMO people who flip during the bullish market will probably reverse their statements when the market will inevitably turn bearish and some point, and they will make posts like "I was actually wrong about Bitcoin, it's useless". If someone is bullish during a bear market and believes in long term potential, it's 1000 times more worth than just following the current sentiment of a bull market. If anything, nocoiners' flipping only means that there's a lot of FOMO going on right now, and FOMO don't last forever.
3447  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: State-Issued Digital Currencies - Why do you need to sell all your bitcoin on: November 07, 2020, 12:06:32 AM
I can't fucking believe people still roll this line out.

A statecoin has every single problem the existing currencies have and many more new ones too. They will have vastly more control over everyone's money and will be able to enact any policy without resistance.

An all statecoin world will make Bitcoin more compelling than ever. If people can't figure that out then they should give up their BTC so someone with a modicum of cognitive ability can benefit from it instead.

People have a really primitive understanding of crypto, they think that if CBDC is a "crypto coin", and Bitcoin is a "crypto coin" too, than they are direct competitors and one must defeat the other. The flaw here is not realizing that Bitcoin is too different from these hypothethical CBDCs and even existing altcoins, because unlike them, it's actually decentralized and secure. In reality the competition will be minimal, no sane Bitcoiner would drop Bitcoin for any other coin.
3448  Economy / Economics / Re: What is causing last few days' run-up? on: November 06, 2020, 02:10:19 PM
Most likely the institutional investors, because data from google trends shows that recently there was no spike of interest towards Bitcoin, despite the tremendous growth. This means that a small  number of people buying a large amount of coins, and we know that institutional investors are becoming more interested in Bitcoin, like for example the recent investment from Microstrategy and other companies. This is different from the past rallies, where google trends followed the price with a small delay. Time will tell if institutional adoption will be good for Bitcoin or not.
3449  Economy / Economics / Re: This is why bitcoin HAS to go up on: November 06, 2020, 11:28:43 AM
If USD really is devalued by 20%, which is a pretty bold claim, than Bitcoin should have gone up by 20%. Instead it increased by more than 50% in the last few weeks. Bitcoin isn't reacting to inflation, it's simply experiencing a bullish cycle, just like it was in 2013 and 2017. Even halvenings are a better explanation, because you can draw a pattern that after each halvening the price tends to go up in a long bull market.
3450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the fastest blockchain? on: November 06, 2020, 11:02:51 AM
but we aint talking about the security . its the speed that we are talking to . if btc blockchain is the fastest no wonder why why theres so many people complain about thier delayed transaction . they say trx , ltc and ripple  .

 im going to agree with that because me myself also tried to use those coins and i was impressed how my transaction went  but all of that dont mean that we should now forget btc, no because all of those wont be possible if without the existense of btc . btc still has its own charm if not on the speed

In cryptocurrency speed and security are deeply connected. It's a huge misconception to think that "fast" blockchains actually confirm your transactions, because their confirmations are unreliable. So, what's the point of a centralized and unsecure cryptocurrency, if you can get already get instant confirmations with banks or PayPal, but they are at least regulated and there's at least some guarantee that they won't exit scam you, or that the value of your money won't drop by 90% overnight.
3451  Economy / Speculation / Re: sold mine at 14100 dammitttt on: November 06, 2020, 08:11:54 AM
A correction always comes, and the faster and higher we get, the more likely it is. I personally wouldn't buy Bitcoin right now and wait for a dip, even if it's not a big one. We went from $10k to now nearly $16k almost without any major corrections and in short time, the market is clearly in FOMO mode. I already started selling small amounts with a goal of buying back later, and I don't regret that the price is higher now. Bitcoin will always have good buy/sell opportunities as long as it remains volatile, so don't let the perfect be the enemy of good - as long as your trades bring profit, that's already great.
3452  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Have you received a call/text recently from a friend/fam asking about Bitcoin? on: November 06, 2020, 07:59:37 AM
This time - no, but during the last bull run I got contacted by some of my friends and relatives, and I don't like it. It's not like they asked or implied that I for some reason should share my newfound wealth with them, but it still rubbed me the wrong way. If I could turn back time, I would have made it so that no one even knew that I'm involved in Bitcoin, so I won't have to deal with situations like this, and generally feel more safe, because words travel far, and who knows to whom my friends talked about my involvement in Bitcoin?
3453  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why aren't more businesses and investment funds buying Bitcoin? on: November 06, 2020, 07:44:05 AM
Because despite Bitcoin's recent great performance, it's still a very volatile, very risky asset, and unlike with stocks, no one can calculate its objective value. Businesses don't need a promise of sky-high profits, they just need some reliability. Bitcoin only makes sense if they put a very small amount into it. As for funds, they do trade it, just in small amounts, but it does become more and more common. There's also a lot of OTC trading going on that we don't know much about, which might be the place of institutional investors.
3454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should I accept Bitcoin for payments on my online store? on: November 05, 2020, 11:16:49 PM
I think the biggest risk is that Bitcoin fees tend to get very high when there's a lot of price action, and if your customers will happen to try to make purchase with Bitcoin, they will have a very negative experience, which could possibly negatively reflect on your business. Maybe customers, especially those not very familiar with Bitcoin, will think that it's you who charges such high fees. Or they will get their transaction stuck and will get very frustrated. If I owned a store, I'd wait for Lightning Network's mass adoption before adding Bitcoin.
3455  Other / Off-topic / Re: Space Debris: A Subtle Way to Doom Humanity on: November 05, 2020, 12:42:10 PM
I doubt space debris can doom humanity, it's not like we have an urgency to leave this planet, nor we have the technology to actually do so. At worst, this problem will set back our space exploration and technologies that rely on satellites. But we'll also probably figure something out, I know there already are some proposals how can we clear these debris from the orbit. Or maybe new materials will allow spacecrafts easily withstand impact of space debris.
3456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: my situation with bitcoin how it helped me real use case today on: November 05, 2020, 12:27:57 PM
Unfortunately, most people in the world still don't realize how beneficial Bitcoin is if you need to make an international transactions, People would rather waste their money on huge fees and wait for days than try something new. It has been theorized that Bitcoin could achieve mass adoption as an international money transfer method, but for some reasons it failed to do it so far.
3457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Volatility Expected to Rise After the US Presidential Election on: November 05, 2020, 11:06:20 AM
So, the idea is that US elections will cause volatility on stock markets, which in turn influence Bitcoin? But we're already at a point when correlation between Bitcoin and stocks has stopped, because Bitcoin gained its own momentum, which is much stronger than whatever is happening with stocks. If volatility will increase, it will be a coincidence. The only scenario where elections/stocks indeed influence Bitcoin is if something really major happens, but this is unlikely.
3458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Grayscale is stockpiling of bitcoin on: November 04, 2020, 09:22:21 PM
then what? In order keep the value of bitcoin it must be wide-adopted, in current situation it's not realistic. Yes, it will serve as a store of value mostly for institutional investors but not well adopted if it's too expensive and scarce.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/grayscale-trust-sees-largest-ever-weekly-inflow-nears-500k-btc-in-total

Actually, Bitcoin doesn't have to be well adopted to have high value, it just needs to have high demand, even if it's a demand from very few people. Also 5% of supply isn't that much, and even if you add all the other custodial services, the majority of coins are still held by users, And Bitcoin isn't some PoS system, having coins doesn't give you voting power on the network, so you don't have to worry that someone will overtake Bitcoin by controlling its supply.
3459  Other / Archival / Re: Hong Kong bans retail trading of digital currencies on: November 04, 2020, 08:56:40 AM
Ugh.  This news isn't really surprising, and I don't even know how significant it is.  This has been the trend as far as regulating crypto goes for some time now.  That statement by the Hong Kong government was typical bureaucratic doublespeak, and those always make my skin crawl no matter who it is that's making it.

Actually this seems to be pretty unique, I don't remember another cases of retail investors getting banned from trading crypto. It's not very significant news, because Hong Kong isn't a host to a large amout of crypto volume and adoption, but if it's actually China testing the waters before implementing similar laws on mainland, this could be pretty big. And locally it will have a huge impact, I doubt that majority of crypto investors are whales who hold $1 mil USD in assets, so exchanges will lose a huge share of their customers, maybe even forcing them to close, while people will have to resort to p2p trading, which is often risky.
3460  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: A Word of Advice about Paypal & Crypto on: November 04, 2020, 06:52:56 AM
Some people even use PayPal in countries where it's not officially supported, by using VPN and faking KYC documents during registration. If such users tried to buy crypto, it could lead to more scrutiny and potential ban on their account, because everything crypto-related is generally viewed as risky operation by centralized payment entities.

Don't get me wrong, it's a bad service in the perspective of a hardcore bitcoiner like me that likes to spend his coins and prefers holding the coins in a non-custodial wallet, but for the masses? It's probably going to be a decent service for them.

I'd rather recommend Coinbase to a newbie, at least it has lower fees, market prices and ability to withdraw your coins. The only benefit of PayPal is that it would allow complete beginners to get a psychological feeling of how it is to own Bitcoin, while being in a familiar to them environment.
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