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3441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcore - BTX - SEGWIT - BLOOM - ONLINE - CORE 0.14.1 -142000+ BTX Claimed on: August 05, 2017, 12:52:08 AM
I have been having wallet trouble recently, won't sync and has been open for days. Anyone else having any issues, and if so, any solutions, much appreciated.

same here..  Sad

delete everything except wallet.dat in your roamingfolder and start from new...

Greetz
Steve

I had the same issue. Tried to resync and deleted everything except for the wallet.dat to no avail... until I updated from 0.14.1.1 to the latest release (0.14.1.6).

So I updated Bitcore Core, then cleared the datadir (except for wallet.dat) and now all is well. Clearing the datadir again was necessary due to 0.14.1.6 still getting stuck at the first try when simply using the data that 0.14.1.1 left behind.

I hope this helps.
3442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Game over for now on: August 04, 2017, 11:26:50 PM
No way to make any decent gains for the forseeable future. Mkt cap is $50b that means $100b to double your money.  I see sideways bs looking for idiot buyers for awhile then a bear market before the next leg up.
The current adoption simply doesn't support a continued rise.

Depends on how you define "decent gains" and "forseeable future". Will we see a 10x surge within half a year? Nah. Those times are over. But we could see steady growth. Some sideways action may be boring, but also means stability, which leads to more credibility, which ultimately helps adoption. Bear markets suck, but are a great opportunity to stop staring at the charts and get some fresh air.

I personally would be quite content with Bitcoin just stabilizing between USD 3000 - 2500,- without overextending itself. People have heard of enough Bitcoin crashes. Many people that only follow mainstream news have not even fully realized at which price level Bitcoin is currently trading. Let that sink in with the general population first.
3443  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Legacy (aka AXAcoin, aka Bitcoin Core Coin) chain won't survive on: August 04, 2017, 05:28:23 PM
FUD is irrational, I have arguments

Oh boy oh boy. This is going to be fun.



The title is self-explanatory, tech-savvy people already know that the Bitcoin Legacy is headed for a doomsday,

Appeal to authority. Appeal to emotion.

because of the crappy Blockstream developers group called Bitcoin Core funded by AXA Bank (basically current Bitcoin is funded by a private bank that doesn't want it succeed in the future), that's why Blockstream doesn't want segwit2x,

Ad hominem x2.

in November bitcoin will either fork into 2 chains, or there will be no blocksize change, it will hurt the bitcoin hard no matter what happens.

Jumping to conclusions.

There is almost no one running BTC1 software (needed for segwit2x), mostly everything is Bitcoin Core that doesn't want the "2x" part of segwit2x.

I guess? Didn't check. Not sure why relevant.

The segwit is a great security threat

How so? Please expand.

that should never be implemented and the bitcoin legacy road map will not succeed,

Why? Please expand.

they're basically trying to change Bitcoin in the way no sane person would want.

Ad populum.

We already have a coin that is ready to get mass adopted

Yes...

and that is Bitcoin Cash,

Non sequitur.

no segwits, no second layers, no BS scaling road maps. It's already invented and ready just waiting for the right moment for a takeover.

Acknowledged.

After segwit activation on Bitcoin Legacy chain, we'll hit the new ATH and then the price will slowly decrease followed by Bitcoin Cash price increase until Bitcoin Cash becomes the main chain. This will be partly forced by Chinese miners that know you can't just dump all bitcoins at once, but have to do it slowly.

Non sequitur.

People who know that celebrate the low price of Bitcoin Cash and will accumulate as much as possible. People who sold Bitcoin Cash will regret it hard.

Ad populum. Appeal to emotion.

It takes only a small price pump to Bitcoin Cash to become profitable to miners and imagine if Bitcoin Cash was the price of current Bitcoin, miners would be totally crazy to mine Bitcoin when they can get hundreds of percents more money for mining Bitcoin Cash.

It takes only a small price pump to Bitcoin Cash Dogecoin to become profitable to miners and imagine if Bitcoin Cash Dogecoin was the price of current Bitcoin, miners would be totally crazy to mine Bitcoin when they can get hundreds of percents more money for mining Bitcoin Cash Dogecoin.

(Ad Doge.)

The future is really bright, it only depends if u stand on the right side.

Appeal to emotion.

It will only take a small changes for stores around the world and Japan to change from Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash, because it's just forked Bitcoin, support can be brought in a few days.

It will only take a small changes for stores around the world and Japan to change from Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash Dogecoin, because it's just forked Bitcoin, support can be brought in a few days.

(Ad Doge.)

There are so many  people emotionally invested in Bitcoin (and people brainwashed by Bitcoin Core propaganda) that will refuse this only to see their money vanish, don't be one of them, at least create a hedge or just don't sell your Bitcoin Cash, this way, you can be sure you don't lose your money.

Ad populum. Appeal to emotion.

Bitcoin is gon' be a Bitcoin Cash's b1tch, maybe you're now too emotional to accept that, but that's the most likely scenario to happen right now.

Non sequitur.

And as always it's good to recall this good old quote:

Quote from: Mark Twain
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

Appeal to authority.


<3
3444  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Utopia on: August 04, 2017, 03:22:33 PM
Assuming we reach a Bitcoin Utopia where everyone is using Bitcoin and governments dont know
who has what how do our public services operate if no-one is paying taxes?

How do the Hospitals and Health systems get funded?

How do the education systems operate?

How do the Water, Electricity, Communications networks and other
public services like Lighting, Road Maintenance, Law and Order survive without funding?


If Bitcoin where to be used as the main currency this still wouldn't mean that you'd get rid of taxes.

Accepting Bitcoin as payment doesn't absolve a company from doing proper book keeping. Receiving Bitcoin as salary doesn't absolve an employee from doing tax reports. Or do you think that everyone will all of a sudden just report zero income while driving around in Lamborghinis?

Bitcoin doesn't change anything about that. In fact, it could make taxation more transparent. Just imagine what it would be like if you could publicly audit Google, Amazon and Apple on the blockchain. Seeing their well oiled machine of tax-optimized international subsidiaries at play. That'd be something.
3445  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is NOT mathematically limited to twenty one million bitcoins on: August 04, 2017, 02:10:14 PM
In 15 years the subsidy will drop below 1 BTC to 0.78125 BTC per block.
If the exchange rate is $300,000 per bitcoin, then even if the miner collects no transaction fees at all, that's still $234,375 per block.  Is that ""negligible"?

Exactly. So far the growth of Bitcoin relative to fiat has always offset the loss of declining block rewards - and then some. Assuming that Bitcoin is still alive and kicking in 15 years this trend is likely to continue. Worst case the Bitcoin fiat price can't keep up with the block reward halving, in which case less electricity will be spent on mining. But as long as Bitcoin exists, mining will always find a profitable optimum of more or less hashpower. That's the beauty of it.


On a related note bitcoin is NOT limited to being called bitcoin. Just a few tiny tweaks and it could be called bitloinShocked

Duuude. So what you're saying is that Bitcoin is NOT grammatically limited to the name Bitcoin? :O
3446  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Could Coinbase be forced to support BCC? on: August 04, 2017, 10:43:45 AM
Its funny that they say will release the coin on January 1st cause the coin could quite possibly be completely useless by then. It'll be interesting to see how it changes till then.


It's the perfect move. By giving a definite deadline for allowing withdrawal no court will even think about making a case out of it. January 1st may be an eternity and in the crypto world, but it's the blink of an eye in the legal system. In addition they don't have to entirely give in to coercion while also not having to resort to "stealing" user's BCH. Not bad.

I wonder though why some BCH supporters are so keen on getting their coins out sooner? I mean BCH is a long term investment, no? They would hodl anyway, yes?
3447  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Could Coinbase be forced to support BCC? on: August 03, 2017, 09:36:16 PM
Users are starting a class action lawsuit against Coinbase so they can get their BCH. Anyone think this could result in Coinbase supporting BCH and allowing trading to open? Might be the easiest way to settle with these customers.

https://news.bitcoin.com/coinbase-customers-could-instigate-class-action-lawsuit-over-bitcoin-cash/

Even if they were legally obliged to allow their customers to withdraw their BCH, they still couldn't force Coinbase to support BCH trading. It's up to Coinbase which currency to trade and which not. You can't coerce a business to sell a product they don't see fit.
3448  Economy / Speculation / Re: About BCC (Bitcoin's Cancer Cell) on: August 03, 2017, 04:39:15 PM
Isn't Bitcoin all about freedom and financial evolution? Let the free market decide. Maybe those guys are onto something and big blocks work more reliably. Maybe it'll crash and burn in which case we'll finally have the proof that larger blocks just don't cut it. Either way we're going to learn something.

I personally believe that BTC's approach of using a second layer solution for scaling will be more fruitful than a linear scaling solution such as bigger blocks. But we'll only see it when we have it.
3449  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Random Question about Blockchain and AI on: August 03, 2017, 01:02:01 PM
Could it be possible to upload human emotions (like increased heart rate , laughter , sadness) into a blockchain? If its possible could it perhaps be used to help artificial intelligence understand human emotion and maybe gain insight into us... and not kill us?

Just a thought. Would like ur input to see if its plausible.

Some high profile scientists today believe that emotions will indeed be able to be uploaded in the near future!

Probably not in 20 years, or even 50. But possibly in 100.

One thing I know is it usually isn't a good idea to claim something could "never happen". Think of how many times you have heard someone claim something to be impossible, and then it happened in your lifetime. The first thing that comes to my mind is when AI beat the top Human at GO, which many people thought a computer would never be able to do and others thought it would take at least 10 years.

In a 100 years may as well be never Smiley It's already hard to project the technological advances of the next 10 to 30 years. Everything that goes further than that is pure speculation. We can expect pretty much everything to be possible, even things that seem physically impossible with our current understanding of physics. But I daresay we're still far off from encoding emotions in a way beyond describing which chemicals to put into our bloodstream and which hormones to trigger.
3450  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer - mixing reinvented on: August 03, 2017, 07:50:54 AM
But perhaps ChipMixer can offer a small bounty for someone to professionally (keyword "professionally"; not just a voiceover your screen capture lol) design a videographic that shows the simple process of how to mix coins. There's a section for a "How It Works" video currently on the website, but from what I can remember, there has never been a video there.

@ChipMixer: I'm more on the code side of things nowadays, but I used to do freelance work for banner ads and 2d animated shorts. PM me if interested for further details and / or references.
3451  Economy / Speculation / Re: In about 8 days Bitcoin will finally lock in SegWit on: August 02, 2017, 10:56:18 PM
BCH is doing really well.I`m surprised about this.I was expecting a big failure which isn`t happening.
Bcash is way more successfull compared with Bitcoin unlimited and the best thing is that bitcoin isn`t damaged by this fork.

The BCH price did well today on what little liquidity was available. It's still way too early to say that BCH will be doing well. That we will see once the BCH network is fully functional and BCH can be effectively traded and arbitraged. Until then it's not much different from viaBTC's pre-hardfork futures trading.

In general, I agree with OP. Bitcoiners should rejoice about the progress that's happening instead of bitching about their neighbours (that goes for both sides of the fork). But I understand all the focus on BCH. Haven't had that much fun watching crypto drama unfold for quite a while.
3452  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Trezor issues on: August 02, 2017, 05:34:35 PM
Trezor has taken the support for BCH down temporarily whilst they fix their backend.

If I havent clained my BCH as yet, if I move/sell my btc will the old balance be claimable, or only whats left in the wallet currently.

I just feel trapped in BTC as it devalues, and i'd like to claim my BCH, and buy back BTC when it has fallen more.

If BCH's 2-way replay protection is worth anything you should be able to reclaim BCH even after moving your BTC (ie. 1:1 according to the BTC balance you held on your Trezor on the time of the fork). Obviously I can't speak for the Trezor team, but at least from a technical point of view that's how it should work.
3453  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why I Am Not Using Hardware Wallet For Cold Storage on: August 02, 2017, 05:17:49 PM
The guy lost me at recovery seeds being "paper claims" to private keys. The source code for deriving said private keys from your recovery seeds are out there. You can derive your private keys yourself without the need for any third party support. Also, at least with Trezor, you can import your recovery seeds / private keys into a software wallet such as Multibit, so you're not forced to buy a new one.

Of course you don't need a hardware wallet to store your coins securely. I personally just find it way more convenient to use my cold storage with the ease of a hot wallet.

You do realize MultiBit no longer exists... right?

I did not, thanks for point it out. You can still import from Trezor to (an old version of) Multibit to Electrum... or actually to Electrum directly, apparently [1]. Point being that with the key derivation logic being public there will always be a way to replace your hardware wallet with a software wallet. Of course this also means to stay away from any hardware wallet that isn't open source.

[1] https://doc.satoshilabs.com/trezor-apps/electrum.html
3454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin Core seems have problem with walletpassphrase having special characters on: August 02, 2017, 04:36:07 PM
Escape quotation marks " within the passphrase with backslashes like so: \"

Escape backslashes \ within the passphrase with backslashes like so: \\
( ^ not 100% sure if necessary )

Unless you have some funky whitespace characters in your passphrase the rest shouldn't matter.
3455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) price tomorrow gon' be like..... on: August 02, 2017, 04:11:23 PM
Not really. Exchanges aren't allowing any BCC deposits to come in, so the market is extremely thin on the sell side (explains why the price is increasing exponentially). I cashed out 10BCC at 0.14BTC today, but unfortunately I can't deposit anything. Lips sealed Other than that there is not much to complain about. I am glad that I at least had BTC sitting on-exchange before the split. It gained me 1.4BTC in total. In the meanwhile, I keep refreshing (ahum... ddosing) the deposit page of various exchanges.

Leave the poor exchanges alone Cheesy Here, try this:

https://cash.coin.dance/blocks

As of right now we're still on BCC block #12 (for about 13hrs at the time of writing). Exchanges enabling the deposit page won't help anything if the blockchain doesn't chug along.
3456  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: SHA possible backdoor by NSA and how we improve that on: August 02, 2017, 03:21:36 PM
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Prime numbers have patterns and rules, maybe NSA uses that for making hash functions
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(Why NSA everytime uses primes for making hash functions?)
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Nonsense and FUD.

There are no prime numbers used in the SHA256 hash function.

Even if it were true, that would only mean that the NSA could create some badass ASIC miners. At this point in time Bitcoin's PoW hashing algorithm is probably the least viable attack vector (one could argue that the arrival of ASICs already was an successful "attack" on SHA256 as PoW hashing algorithm in the first place).
3457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying BTC on: August 02, 2017, 03:09:29 PM
If I were to buy BTC todasy (Aug 2nd) would that still yield me BCC or that part is over?

That part is over, you would have needed to hold BTC on Aug 1st 12:20pm UTC (assuming you had the private keys or an exchange that made BCC accessible to its clients)
3458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tragedy day for bitcoin on: August 02, 2017, 02:16:18 PM
On the other hand, most BCC holders are dumping it and will continue to do so in the coming weeks.

So far most BCC holders say the will be dumping it, but no one has been able to do so so far. Looking at BCC's upwards price swings today I wouldn't be surprised if some people change their minds and decide to hold their BCC after all.
3459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain Cash was stillborn. (ITS DEAD!) on: August 02, 2017, 09:46:14 AM
BCH is surprisingly resilient, looks like it's far from being a stillborn. Still too soon to tell how well it will fare though, current evaluations are useless without people being able to deposit BCH into exchanges.

So who is buying ?

Definitely not buying, but should have waited for the bounce before parting with what little BCH liquidity I had available -_-
3460  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why I Am Not Using Hardware Wallet For Cold Storage on: August 02, 2017, 09:37:24 AM
The guy lost me at recovery seeds being "paper claims" to private keys. The source code for deriving said private keys from your recovery seeds are out there. You can derive your private keys yourself without the need for any third party support. Also, at least with Trezor, you can import your recovery seeds / private keys into a software wallet such as Multibit, so you're not forced to buy a new one.

Of course you don't need a hardware wallet to store your coins securely. I personally just find it way more convenient to use my cold storage with the ease of a hot wallet.
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