I've found a solution to the neoscrypt problem: building a cuda 6.5/7.5 hybrid.
Tested working on Linux. Here's the procedure:
- build ccminer with cuda 7.5 as usual
- remove all the object files in the neoscrypt folder: rm neoscrypt/*.o
- edit Makefile
- replace all the instances of "7.5" with "6.5"
- run make again
- you just made a ccminer executable with all the algos on 7.5 except neoscrypt on 6.5 :-)
- revert the Makefile changes to build it again in the future
If you find this useful, please donate to the BTC address in my signature.
If I undertstand the result neo is compiled with 6.5 and eveyrthing else with 7.5. Then it is all linked with 6.5. I'm not sure linking object files from different compilers is safe. I prefer to use a script to select the prefered executable based on the algo. Less work, less risk, more flexible. Edit: but it's still a workaround.  Linking object files from different compilers: I've often linked object files create with a C compiler and others created with an assembler. In ccminer, some objects are compiled with gcc, some others with nvcc... you get the picture. |
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I've found a solution to the neoscrypt problem: building a cuda 6.5/7.5 hybrid.
Tested working on Linux. Here's the procedure:
- build ccminer with cuda 7.5 as usual
- remove all the object files in the neoscrypt folder: rm neoscrypt/*.o
- edit Makefile
- replace all the instances of "7.5" with "6.5"
- run make again
- you just made a ccminer executable with all the algos on 7.5 except neoscrypt on 6.5 :-)
- revert the Makefile changes to build it again in the future
If you find this useful, please donate to the BTC address in my signature.
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Activity seems pretty low regarding mining with nvidia cards - despite the upgrade to the 900 series. Is that correct or is everyone mining the hell out of some coin with a private miner?
Some are. It's the only way to make profit, unless you run on free electricity. |
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I just had a chance to test the new version using cuda 7.5. It is indeed a bit faster on quark.
About neoscrypt, it is unexpectedly just some percent slower than the old version, not the total mess it was when I worked on it some months ago.
That's very good news because it is much more likely to be possible to reach "full speed" or even further.
More later when I can code a bit (I already know what to try).
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I already did some weeks ago. Not sure what they want from a coin to be listed, 'cause they got some clear scams at times. |
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The price has been very stable since I started following this coin some months ago. It's a good sign of investors and simple users holding it. I am positive about this coin going thru this hard times.
It's a shame but it appears you spoke too soon; the price is down and will keep going down because the buy support practically disappeared.  I'm not that afraid: the BTC sum of buy orders has been floating between 3 and 4 for months. And the sell orders are mostly over 19000 SAT, as usual. Probably the recurrent buyers are busy or waiting for the price to be a little bit lower to make a better buy ;-) EDIT: and the buy came, a couple minutes after this post ;-) |
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Thanks very much sp_! I'm sad as I currently am unable to test or work on it, but I hope to be able to give it a chance during the weekend. |
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Curiously what is the point of shifting to cuda 7.5 if it sucks so much for cryptos? Newer is just better?
With the right code, it will probably be better. It already is on some algo, will be on others. From my experience, the 7.5 compiler is cleanier and more predictable: it generates less broken binaries than 6.5. Since all was based on 6.5, it takes time to update, but it will be well worth. |
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what a terrible !!!
280X doing 480kh/s on Neoscrypt!!!!!
i will research
he rewrote special kernel himself and not for public  information like this can cause coin value to plummet at the very least temporarily, no one wants to mine biased coin by localized (hidden) advantage in the mining software by few (or worse by one) (above is not in the regards to VERT) many seek to find an advantage some kind of pattern, but even if they find an advantage they are shooting themselves in the foot as any sudden spike in the hash rate will cause a concern and worry, best is to achieve equilibrium from low to high to very high difficulty hence call to any looking at lyra2 on a deep level or even as trivial as GPU settings for maximum performance or mining pools discovering ways to smooth out their operations all findings should be shared in publicI have example of at least 3 top coins in the 50 top market cap that suffered very negative consequences by not following above suggestion Except there is no algo that doesn't have non-public advantages, so... @Wolf0, your attitude is not cool. This is not working to cure cancer, this is making money; it is business. Sharing an advantage simply causes the public to destroy any possibility of profit until only those paying 5 cents per kWh or less can make anything, and them only pennies. @Wolf0..and that is why the world is fucked, because of selfish and greedy people like you. I am glad that your corrupt nature is the exception, rather than the rule in this community. How dare Wolf0 not pay tribute to Captain Volyova of the Free Shit Army (and thereby save humanity from evil)?  I was going to buy some Vertcoins, but won't now because volyova has made it clear the community is toxic and over-entitled. How could we live without some mind-opening posts like this one and without resurrecting a one year old post like that :-D |
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I have now upgraded the project to cuda 7.5
Submitted some adjustments and quark +300KHASH on the gtx 970.
It will take some time to repair the lost hashrate since the compiler has changed.
x11,x13,x15 is down.
lyra2v2 is down.
Good timing choice. Now that the profit is down, better do the spring cleaning, to be ready when it'll go up again ;-) I'll have a look at neoscrypt as soon as possible. I already tried 7.5 some months ago with no luck, maybe the new drivers are better. I'm just very busy this week and the next, I should have some free time to work on it after that. Neo scrypt is broken in cuda 7.5. But I will build release 75. Quark is up 150khash on the 960 and 300khash on the 970 There are some dirty tricks to make it work on 6.5 that are probably messing with 7.5: part of the code, when simplified and compacted, works fine on 7.5, but slower. |
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I have now upgraded the project to cuda 7.5
Submitted some adjustments and quark +300KHASH on the gtx 970.
It will take some time to repair the lost hashrate since the compiler has changed.
x11,x13,x15 is down.
lyra2v2 is down.
Good timing choice. Now that the profit is down, better do the spring cleaning, to be ready when it'll go up again ;-) I'll have a look at neoscrypt as soon as possible. I already tried 7.5 some months ago with no luck, maybe the new drivers are better. I'm just very busy this week and the next, I should have some free time to work on it after that. |
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Nicehash payouts have been a joke for the past month, 1 month ago i was making 3x as much BTC on nice hash and the funny thing is I'm making 3x as much on other pools............
The mining market works fancy at times. It's not a good period for the casual miner, that's for sure. But if you do your homework, you can still mine at a profit. And low rates on nicehash means you can grow your hashrate easily ;-) |
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The price has been very stable since I started following this coin some months ago. It's a good sign of investors and simple users holding it. I am positive about this coin going thru this hard times.
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Guys, what was elasticity in the first place? I tried to find a whitepaper or a statement or something about it, but never managed to get on it. Plus why aren't the devs posting anything about the course of their developement?
I don't think the devs are doing too much these days and it suits me quite fine. In my opinion the coin is well built and strong as is. We have all the features we need in a truly ASIC/botnet/exploit resistant coin here, no pre-mine, and a fair start with a great well distributed release. Its GPU friendly which is where Bitcoin and later Litecoin got their start and solid user base. When a CPU botnet came online a few months ago the user base discovered it quickly and we did a hard fork to squash it cold. This all happened in the course of a month or two. That is the devs coming through strong where it counts, and that is what matters to me personally. Also, the fact that someone took the time to make such a powerful botnet shows that there is a true interest in this coin. As far as I am concerned the coin is perfect as it stands for now. No more development is needed. All we need is to watch out for exploits and crush them out of the hashing algo. I don't see many more coming up, ever. I think the lack of "development" is overblown. If true development is needed, people in this community will step up quick. true. but the "as little development as possible" coin is bitcoin. the altcoins are supposed to innovate, otherwise there is no reason for them to exist. that's my opinion ;-) |
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Some numbers from my new 970 rig.
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Tiger OC
Rig:
Asrock H81
Celeron G1820
8Gb ram (16gb virtual memory set)
Silverstone Strider 1200w v2
3xMSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Tiger OC
Powered USB Risers
SSD Hard Drive
Stock clocks: 1102/1753
sp-MOD 1.5.74
why do you use SSD? Why not? It's well suited for a mining rig as it draws less power. |
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Still strongly supporting this coin  Perhaps we should actively try to get it on Cryptopia as well? Not sure there is enough volume. |
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sp_, it is really nice to see the progress / improvements here, I can see you havenīt stopped developing the ccminer algos, my only regret is to do not participate anymore in this journey testing the miners and contributing with donations, I really wish sucess to you all, keep up the good work.
Cheers
If the profit continues dropping like this, we may all have to stop mining/developing :-( |
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Thinking about it a bit more, the easiest way forward would be to extend ethminer with a stratum proxy that ccminer would connect to. Ethminer would take care of DAG creation, CPU verification and work supply. It would be very low on resources.
Looks like a fine idea to me :-) |
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Craptsy is at the core and/or one of the key players behind these shitclones and their cpu only/asic resistant shitalgos.
If you created a mining algo and coin would you :
a- launch and risk that someone else will figure it out before you do and secretly use or release the optimized kernel
or
b- launch with a public kernel and a private/insider one, thus eliminating any chance that scenario "a" can happen
In most cases it will be B, of course. We all know there are a lot of scamcoins. I just thought Cryptsy wasn't the most involved exchange in all that, because there are other exchanges (like poloniex, bittrex or c-cex) who are much more inclined to add new and small coins. Pretty OT if you ask me. |
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