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3461  Other / Meta / Re: Analisis of users after Merit kick-off - What the've been up to on: April 12, 2018, 01:12:23 PM
If such person is so meritorious so why people do not trust or negative trust him/her?
alia received the majority of the merit before the negative trust. And additionally, post quality ≠ trustworthiness. Even TradeFortress could make a great thread. Most probably would be inclined not to give him merit, but it would be fine to do so.
Have to remember: you could gain a lot of merit but then still get negged afterward.
3462  Other / Meta / Re: Who is able and willing to moderate the Politics & Society section? on: April 12, 2018, 12:03:50 PM
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Will you be willing to moderate the section for no money?

How many posts have you reported? Not just in Politics & Society, but in all of BCT.
3463  Other / Meta / Re: Acct. Locked Tag it plz on: April 12, 2018, 02:16:01 AM
The signature says it's hacked. Nobody would do this intentionally unless they are asking for a red tag.

And thus... tagged.
3464  Other / Meta / Re: A Member rank wearing avatar? on: April 11, 2018, 07:28:41 AM
One more thing: there was a glitch that happened some time ago (can't remember when) but all(?) users had their activity boosted and they were Hero/Legendary members. After it was fixed, users who had added avatars during that period kept it despite their rank afterward.
3465  Other / Meta / Re: Who is able and willing to moderate the Politics & Society section? on: April 11, 2018, 07:23:16 AM
What if mods reward members a merit for an accurate report of spam/useless posts topic? This way more users will have more initiative to report those kinds of threads/posts whenever they see one. This will also help the forum as a whole if there are a lot of members who will do so, but I guess it would add a huge workload since the moderators will get more report than it is now. This is just my opinion tho.
Merit system should be used to create new and more useful posts while decreasing the number of spam posts.

By adding report rewards, you're only acting upon the latter. Plus, you'll probably see a lot of spam reports – if users are scrambling to get merit now through strange ways, then surely they won't care about doing bad reports as long as they can get some good reports through (which result in merit)?

3466  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: hilariousandco, Mitchell,Vod,Ognasty Bitblisscoin.com could be a scamsite on: April 11, 2018, 07:19:16 AM
I don't think that's fair. aTriz isn't asking for any redemption[1]. Sure, you can detect themes of that there but they're trying[2] (at least from what I can tell) [to the best of their ability] to rectify the situation with the Scam ICO's.
There's no more need to throw any criticism out there—the negative trust will stick for some time[3]. This isn't some half-assed attempt to try and garner favor, I'm sure.[4]

[1] I think he is apologizing and wants to make things right, so in a way, it is seeking redemption
By redemption I meant any possibility of removal or positive feedback. Like I said, 'you can detect themes of that there'.

[2] Only after being called out and who are they? I only see one single post from aTriz that actually tries to resolve it.
I'm not defending his character. I'm just saying that further criticism is pointless and thinking that the possibility of aTriz reaching a position of being able to "scam again and admit I was wrong", passing off the apology is a little childish.

[3] How are you so confident that it will stick for some time? It should be a permanent one so that people are aware of this incident; just like in case of Jamal and others who claim to have made amends, but the neg remains.
By stick for some time, I mean some long period of time, or forever.

[4] That's your opinion; for me, it is a Full-assed attempt to get back to what he was doing and had it not been for the constant questions being raised by the members and the neg, he would have conveniently ignored it; like he has in the past. Looks like he has watched the Steve Smith saga quite watchfully and is trying to emulate that here.
There's no point in trying to refund people when the negatives are going to stay with a high degree of certainty. I'm willing to say that only in an extremely rare circumstance would all the members shift it to neutral at best.

Just trying to play devil's advocate. Even though I'm not defending them. I'm just responding to the snide comment.
3467  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: hilariousandco, Mitchell,Vod,Ognasty Bitblisscoin.com could be a scamsite on: April 11, 2018, 03:57:06 AM
I don't think that's fair. aTriz isn't asking for any redemption. Sure, you can detect themes of that there but they're trying (at least from what I can tell) [to the best of their ability] to rectify the situation with the Scam ICO's.
There's no more need to throw any criticism out there—the negative trust will stick for some time. This isn't some half-assed attempt to try and garner favor, I'm sure.
3468  Other / Meta / Re: Some topics get merit for newbies !! on: April 11, 2018, 03:20:42 AM
I don't think we need another compilation thread for these. It suffices to have just one that's updated. There's been ~5 now IIRC. Roll Eyes
3469  Other / Meta / Re: Exchanging considered & reviewed trust donations, on: April 10, 2018, 10:40:18 PM
Being totally pedantic here - If I'm not mistaken, the wait time between posts is depedent on activity and not on rank (granted before the merit system everyone with the same activity had the same rank, but not anymore). See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253190.msg2702160#msg2702160. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
Right. Well then that just solidifies my point more, doesn't it? I guess I had associated it with rank in lieu of the old limits with sections that would be for Brand New and Newbie members.

So yeah, that's correct. And even after two weeks (or less) here, you can begin to post once per minute. It doesn't make sense to ask or any more than that (on a basic level anyway) since posts that take less than a minute to make are worthless anyway. Either the post would be unconstructive or the thread would be unconstructive, thus passing its worthlessness to the post.
3470  Economy / Reputation / Re: Merit Source @digaran has gone too far on: April 10, 2018, 09:59:58 PM
I wonder how difficult it would be to make a video of this thread. If I had some animation skills, I'd be tempted to have a go. Smiley
MS Paint can go a long way. Just go with a simple 3 fps animation made up of jpegs. Wink
This thread is pretty hilarious. :◊
3471  Other / Meta / Re: 14 merit bonus for quality users [Jr to Sr. Member] on: April 10, 2018, 09:55:53 PM
May I also ask, on what page are you now? are you done reviewing? I'm looking forward for your judgement into my profile. Thanks.
Don't worry. The merit's not going anywhere; I just haven't had time to review posts yet. (Maybe it would also do well to try managing a campaign if I get the opportunity, hah)

Another thing, is there anyone here whom you ignored and then they turned out to be like a quality poster?
Anyone who is ignored has good posts. Their posts just weren't consistently good across all of the 20. I did initially write comments but they seemed pretty redundant and so I stopped.

or are there any participants here you put on ignore and didn't take a quite look onto their profiles?
I have less than 10 users on my ignore list. None of them are in this thread. I don't like ignoring people because if they have something to say, it's a pain in the ass to look.

I'm just thinking if you're also like the others,like Jet Cash and The Pharmacist that ignores some people for eternity. People like them doesn't make any exemption, if you're on their list then so be it no more taking back.
No need to attack others. We all have different tolerance levels. I'm just ~~way~~ more tolerant. Not to say I won't reprimand people who post with poor quality.
3472  Other / Meta / Re: 14 merit bonus for quality users [Jr to Sr. Member] on: April 10, 2018, 03:57:08 PM
I have no clue how you have enough merit to continue this thread, but I appreciate you getting around to my request and throwing some merit my way. If you don't mind me asking, are you far behind on the reviews, do you do them in a strange order or have you looped back around to my request just recently?
I did them in chunks. One prior reply on page 7? (or Cool noted that I was caught up until then. That was the day that I ran through about 5 pages of requests.

A lot of posts were checked. Not many users were given merit. And there was a large number of users who got a neutral feedback.

Just like before, I'm going to do these in chunks. Kind of like a signature campaign, in a way.
3473  Other / Meta / Re: Exchanging considered & reviewed trust donations, on: April 10, 2018, 03:18:51 PM
collecting merit is in my oppinion a waste of time for the newbies as i dont believe this forum will hold that long, there will be new forums emergin etc.
Then if you're going to use those new forums to discuss Bitcoin, you shouldn't care about merit at all. If the purpose of your forum stay is purely to discuss topics and start conversations with others, then merit should not even cross your mind.

The only difference between ranks is the wait time between posts, and even at a Jr. Member level (no merit required) it becomes short enough to the point where you can freely talk between people.
3474  Other / Meta / Re: Exchanging considered & reviewed trust donations, on: April 10, 2018, 08:36:57 AM
I'm assuming you are talking about merit. Sending one another trust (privately) is not the way to do things.

Why not keep things public? That way you're adding transparency and there will be a record so that you can justify your 'merit donations'.
3475  Other / Meta / Re: Who is able and willing to moderate the Politics & Society section? on: April 10, 2018, 08:33:43 AM
So, your solution to keep the free exchange of ideas is to ban lower ranked members?
Nice strawman.

There was a Newbie jail, y'know. It doesn't make sense to allow activity to be accumulated with garbage threads like "how to prepare for your death?" and "the effects of drugs on people..."
Check out these amazing posts from the latter.

It destroy the ability of thinking and make your mind out of control.
drugs is good to people.like marijuana.its medicine.but when you abuse it.that the problem.it can affect your brain.causes mental illness
Well drugs are not bad thing. It's bad when you use it excessively.
I think it's a big problem because the government can't regulate it fully
Also, some people who rule the world are interested in spreading it

Note that this is on the first page of the thread.
We should not have these pointless responses. They don't add anything to the discussion and are redundant.
3476  Other / Meta / Re: Who is able and willing to moderate the Politics & Society section? on: April 10, 2018, 08:13:32 AM
LoyceV seems like a good pick. They have generally shown themselves to be both intelligent and objective.
3477  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: hilariousandco, Mitchell,Vod,Ognasty Bitblisscoin.com could be a scamsite on: April 10, 2018, 08:09:40 AM
Regardless what the individual has done, it is of my personal opinion that friends should not form part of the firing squad, simple as that. There is an entire community here, hundreds of thousands of people who can lay down judgement, asking Lauda to do it is wrong. I don't blame Lauda, obviously she was backed into a corner and it became her rep or his, but this situation isn't beneficial for anybody.
Almost seems like just virtue signaling if someone has to shoot out a negative feedback after a number have already been sent. Not that it's not fine but just redundant.

Moreover, they don't have to outright send a feedback but they can simply disagree with the behavior. I think the pressure to warrant a neg is fueled by indignant individuals.
3478  Other / Meta / Re: My post is gone on: April 09, 2018, 07:54:15 PM
The thread may not have been posted in the correct section. It should have been moved but I guess was trashed for some reason.
3479  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: hilariousandco, Mitchell,Vod,Ognasty Bitblisscoin.com could be a scamsite on: April 09, 2018, 07:48:40 PM
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That's not... how the meme works.
This is not the first time aTriz has shown extraordinary naiveté and disregard for common sense.
It has to be intentional, yeah? aTriz isn't known to be unintelligent.
aTriz had information that indicated the ICO was shady at best and he brushed it off as a marketing strategy.
Not defending him, but the only reason I can come up with to sort of justify this is the fact that one might tunnel vision when they're working for someone.

However, it's unacceptable for such a member to allow false marketing that represents 100x the raised amount for an ICO.
3480  Other / Meta / Re: Merit is just a bonus on: April 09, 2018, 07:20:57 PM
Maybe in time these people will learn.  Maybe.
Virtue signaling brings not praise.

Let's not forget the number of people who jump into Reputation threads to do the same when there's an obvious unsubstantiated statement. Same thing with no collateral Lending threads.
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