Found out why one of my units was not hashing and having X's on the chips. Paste was everywhere on the inside. Even the screws holding the heat sink on had thermal paste on them.
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Messy paste wont effect anything but poor cooling, unless your units are overheating, that's not the problem His look far better than mine did... lol. I had paste on the chips, on the pcb, on the connectors... everywhere. |
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I mean if there is some place where I should look at for how to do it.
There's an over clocking thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699064.0As has been stated here, there and pretty much everywhere, it's a toss up whether or not you'll be able to over clock the S3. Some people have been very lucky and gotten them to run quite stable at 504GH/s. Others like me are lucky to see 441GH/s and are more likely to see 415-420GH/s. |
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As it stands BTCg has one block for today when they usually have at least 10... guess thats luck down by 90% then huh  :edit Actually I've just added this to the post as it looks totally sarcastic... I get the variance, I see it in larger pools like ghash... they typically have a block every 20-30 mins yet some hours they have many more and other rounds take an hour or so... guess being a bigger pool the variance plays out quicker making it easier to observe in a short time-frame. Being a bigger pool means the variance is far less noticeable. Sure, GHash.io might have a block take 2 hours, but then find 4 in 20 minutes, and so on... overall, to you the miner it makes little difference because things balance out. On smaller pools, that bad luck becomes very quickly noticed. I mine on p2pool, where the average block time is just about a day. (Well, right now it is 16.5 hours since the pool is at about 1.25PH/s), but we haven't found a block in just under 2 days. It's painful. At 16 hours a block, we should be close to finding our third... but haven't found 1 yet. But, then again, just the other day we found 4 blocks. |
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The new point you added about what will happen when the block reward goes from 25 to 12.5 is very interesting and I hadn't thought about that previously, but it bears consideration especially if you bring it to its logical conclusion: a share becomes worthless when the block reward becomes 0. The payout logic remains the same, (block reward + transaction fees) worth of shares are paid out, but the intrinsic "value" of the share, which previously was always some positive value in BTC, becomes zero.
I have a question for you. If you're 5 feet from a wall, and each step you take, you cover half the distance, how many steps will it take before you're there? (the block reward will never reach 0) M The ideal mathematical case is that it takes infinitely many steps, so you never reach 0, but Bitcoin cannot be subdivided smaller than 0.00000001 BTC. In 2140, the reward will round down to 0 and no new bitcoins will be created. However, that is very far in the futures, and many things will change from here. (One probable thing that might happen is that the protocol might be modified to make bitcoin divisible to smaller unit) Anyway, the point is moot, as it is know that the current algorythm of Eligius is unsustainable in the long term. It is built as if transaction fees do not exist; and indeed at first it didn't even pay them to the miners. The fact that the transaction fees are put toward paying the share log is a relatively new thing (a few months), but the shares are still 'created' as if the the transactions fees were not paid to the miners. That problem is not really significant currently, because the transaction fees are insignificant, but I'm pretty sure the pool operator will address this when the transaction fees will become significant. It is just difficult to devise a "fair" way of paying the transaction fees to the miners, because contrarily to the block reward, their value is unpredictable and varies a lot. Your last sentence is exactly what I was driving towards. While it may be a long ways off and chances are pretty good none of us on this board will be around to see it, the transaction fees are what will be utilized to incentivize miners of the future. A lot of people, when discussing the block reward halving in the next couple years fall back on the argument of, "Yeah, but BTC will be worth double what it is now, so it all balances out." What would be really nice to see is the widespread adoption of BTC globally, and as such transaction fees playing a larger role in payouts as well. As you very correctly point out, Eligius in its current form does nothing with transaction fees except to pay off some more of the shelved shares. |
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Anybody notice a drop in shares? With no changes in setup or machines.... My shares stopped late last night... So today, I rebooted my computer and reset the system and started everything fresh even the bitcore.... Now running 4 hours at 4 TH and 0.0 shares... Thats very unusual as I usually get about 2 an hour on average... Just wondering if its only me? Thanks That's variance for you. Now... that's some pretty crappy luck, but, it happens. Sometimes when that happens to me, I give my miners a little pep talk. Positive words of encouragement like, "I'm going to trade you in" and "Do you want to end up on eBay, too?". Then, a lot of times if that doesn't do the trick, I'll threaten them with unplugging them and not plugging them back in or forcing them to work on the same block over and over until they get it right. In extreme cases I'll reboot everything repeatedly, just so they know who is in control.  |
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I'm a little puzzled by this.
I mined for about 24 hours on a true p2pool.
About 10:00 this morning, I switched to another coin.
At first since there were coins in my wallet that needed confirm I didn't pay a lot of attention.
Then I noticed the wallet is still receiving coins and its now after 4:00pm.
I checked the pool and my wallet address shows no hash.
I'm running 4 Zeus Blizzards and was hitting over 5Mhs, almost a quarter of the pools rate.
Is this some sort of residual reward coming in or is my miner rig still hooked up and I can't se it ?
btw the amount of coins is still good coming in, like I never left.
Weird.
It's the way p2pool works. You get paid for any shares you have on the chain when a block is found. So, you'll continue to get payouts until such time that your last share falls off the chain. |
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I'm a bit confused, so maybe you can help me understand. You're running a pool based on p2pool technology, or a pool that actually runs on the p2pool network?
Assuming the first case, then what? You get a bunch of people to mine on this pool, where by your statements the reward for the first few blocks the pool finds belong to you to "seed" the payouts.
After this time, for every block found, one miner will receive 25% of the block reward (6.25BTC), you get 1% for running the pool and the remainder of the miners split the 74%. I'm still at a loss to figure out where the original few block's worth of BTC went.
Assuming the second case, where you're just running another p2pool node, how is this in any way beneficial to a particular miner? When a block is found, it's split amongst every p2pool miner according to how many shares that miner has on the chain. Are you stating that miners on your node will somehow receive an additional payout from you equal to 25% of the pool's income? How does the pool generate income in this case, I mean other than that 1% fee?
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The new point you added about what will happen when the block reward goes from 25 to 12.5 is very interesting and I hadn't thought about that previously, but it bears consideration especially if you bring it to its logical conclusion: a share becomes worthless when the block reward becomes 0. The payout logic remains the same, (block reward + transaction fees) worth of shares are paid out, but the intrinsic "value" of the share, which previously was always some positive value in BTC, becomes zero.
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TLDR (yet), but ... A share is 'worth' 25 BTC/bitcoin_difficulty, at the time the share was found. It does not change when the bitcoin difficulty changes. Need some rephrasing to make it more clear ... probably A share is 'worth' 25 BTC/bitcoin_difficulty, at the time the share was found and it's value does not change later when the bitcoin difficulty changes, but only for the shares found afterwards. Assuming his sentence is the first quote, and your proposed change is the second, his is far clearer. If anything needs to be added at all, perhaps the second sentence could read, "The 'worth' of the previously found share does not change when the bitcoin difficulty changes." |
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Windows 7 is the OS. I can't get past step 1, which is to use my browser to go to the antminer site to register my machine. (192.168.1.99). Shouldn't I be able to get there?
What is the IP address of your Windows machine? As has been stated, you *MUST* be on a 192.168.1.* network. To find out your IP address, open a command prompt and type: This will provide you with a bunch of information. You want to look for the ethernet adapter, and under that the IPv4 address. If it does not start with 192.168.1... then you won't be able to see your S3. You will have to either a) change your network by going to the router, or b) follow the setup guide for directly connecting the miner to your computer. That guide is located here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702653.0 |
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It's amazing how much variance there is in the first few batches. People have reported being able to hit and hold 504GH/s stable at a clock of 250, while others (like myself) can do no over clocking at all, and cannot hit even the reduced advertised stock speeds on all units. For example, one of my S3s hashes very happily at 441GH/s @ 218.75. The other one can barely hold 420GH/s at the same clock speed. I've tried over clocking, under clocking both of them, but neither works. Any change to a higher clock frequency inevitably leads to "x" and "-" and lower-than-stock hash rates. I've pulled both of my units apart, cleaned and replaced all thermal paste with AS. Unfortunately, I'm just one of the unlucky ones.
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Can someone tell me, why GPU mining is better then CPU mining?? It's so strangely, i think.
Since nobody actually answered your question, let me. GPU mining is better than CPU mining because a GPU can far better handle parallel processing. Okay. All mining process is so hardly, that need to with parallel processing, by liner math task. Do i rightly understatnd that?? I'm not sure I entirely understand your reply, but let me give you a bit more detail. At it's most basic level, mining is nothing more than solving math problems. Depending on which coin you're mining, the math function might change, but it's still solving a math problem. It is an extremely repetitive process. In other words, you have to do the same function over and over and over. This is why a GPU is faster than a CPU. What does a GPU do, really? Execute a ton of similar math problems in parallel to render a graphics object. It's a purpose-built chip to offload those kinds of transactions from your CPU. This is why ASICs are even faster. The mining ASIC has no job in the world OTHER than to solve those specific math problems. Try to think about it like this: CPU - has to deal with all kinds of different instructions, from all kinds of different applications. GPU - has to deal with specific sets of instructions, so it can handle those kinds of instructions faster since it is dedicated to do just them ASIC - has to deal with only a single kind of instruction, so it is entirely built to do just that extremely fast. |
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Alright so I know there is a TON of information out there, but nothing easily specific to my question. I have two antminer S1's and two Dell Server Power supplies 750w. I'm trying to limit the amount of power going to these two obviously to keep my cost down and yet get full potential before they are worthless.....
So with that being said. What would you guys do? Would you overclock both? If so if you could give me some information on the easiest way to do that thru Windows 7, connected directly to the router.
Or are two of these units able to be used on one 750w power supply? And if so, would y'all keep the two supplies not overclocked and have them both on one power supply, or overclock both and keep them on seperate ones?
Thanks for the help!
The answers to your questions are all over the hardware and mining support forums. Here is a brief summary: 1) Limiting power - you can under clock and under volt. Look for "pencil mod" to get details on how to do it. 2) To over clock, you just edit the asic-freq file on the miner. Look for "over clocking Antminer S1". 3) At stock speeds, you can run both S1s on the single Dell PSU. Under clocked and under volted, not a problem. Over clocked, no. Since you have 2, just hook each S1 up to its own PSU. Personally, I still run my S1s overclocked, and I'm probably in the minority at this point. Why? Well, they've both ROI'd in BTC, so everything I'm mining now is profit, so why not make the most of it? I run them both off a single Corsair HX1050. Now, chances are I'm going to sell them and replace them with newer gear, but while they're mining, they're still overclocked. So you would keep them on two seperate supplies I have and overclock both? I do... but that's because they've already paid for themselves and my electricity cost is not too terrible. Your situation might be different. Also, like I said, I'm very likely in the minority with my opinion. I've seen far more threads about under clocking and conserving power on the S1s recently than I have for over clocking the same  EDIT: Are you planning to grab some more mining gear (like an S3)? If yes, then perhaps you should under clock your S1s so you can use that other PSU for the new gear. Alternatively, you could under clock both S1s, run them on the single PSU and sell the other one. Whatever makes sense for your situation, is what you should do. EDIT2: I checked out your shop linked in your sig... pretty cool work. You make that glassware yourself? |
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Alright so I know there is a TON of information out there, but nothing easily specific to my question. I have two antminer S1's and two Dell Server Power supplies 750w. I'm trying to limit the amount of power going to these two obviously to keep my cost down and yet get full potential before they are worthless.....
So with that being said. What would you guys do? Would you overclock both? If so if you could give me some information on the easiest way to do that thru Windows 7, connected directly to the router.
Or are two of these units able to be used on one 750w power supply? And if so, would y'all keep the two supplies not overclocked and have them both on one power supply, or overclock both and keep them on seperate ones?
Thanks for the help!
The answers to your questions are all over the hardware and mining support forums. Here is a brief summary: 1) Limiting power - you can under clock and under volt. Look for "pencil mod" to get details on how to do it. 2) To over clock, you just edit the asic-freq file on the miner. Look for "over clocking Antminer S1". 3) At stock speeds, you can run both S1s on the single Dell PSU. Under clocked and under volted, not a problem. Over clocked, no. Since you have 2, just hook each S1 up to its own PSU. Personally, I still run my S1s overclocked, and I'm probably in the minority at this point. Why? Well, they've both ROI'd in BTC, so everything I'm mining now is profit, so why not make the most of it? I run them both off a single Corsair HX1050. Now, chances are I'm going to sell them and replace them with newer gear, but while they're mining, they're still overclocked. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmOzih6I1zsWhat is Bitcoin Mining? Have you ever wondered how Bitcoin is generated? This short video is an animated introduction to Bitcoin Mining. Might help, more people should watch it Cute video - although at this stage, I'm not sure I'd want BFL products to be representative of the ASICs It does a fair enough job explaining mining, and even how coins are generated. It would be nice if it discussed the transaction fees, and the limited total number of coins to ever be produced - unlike governments who can print fiat at will. |
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Actually I take it back.... btc guild has only found one block today at 10:30am UK time. Amazing, yesterday they'd found 8 blocks by now.... thats some swinging variance
Funny how that variance stuff works, huh? It's just the nature of the beast. People see the words "expected earnings" and "time to block" and think, "that's what is supposed to happen." The reality of it is that folks are far more likely to come up with conspiracy theories, than to accept reality. Pool luck up 10%? Somebody's cheating. Pool luck down 10%? Somebody's attacking. As DrG pointed out, there indeed WAS something that happened and was discovered. The problem now is that everyone automatically assumes that same thing is constantly happening if the pool luck so much as quivers below the expected luck. The topic has been discussed on virtually every pool's thread, and people read it and say, "Well, that explains it then" and then start spreading the misinformation. It's precisely why I posted that silly statement about 5 Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. |
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Cooling down the air in that small bedroom is not your answer. The answer is in moving that hot air out of there. Yes, it may be hot outside, but it's going to be hotter inside with all that gear generating tons of heat. Put your gear on a shelf in front of the window. Put fans to push air over the gear, then put fans to push that same air out of the window. Even a couple of simple box fans from your local Wally World will be a better approach than trying to cool the room with AC.
If this is just a venting thread, then I get the "wife aggro" all the time. "Those things are loud!", "The electric bill went up by $X!", "Which plugs can't I use now?!?"... and so on. Sometimes she's fun with it like, "I'm sorry honey, I couldn't hear you over the racket those miners make. Did you ask me something?" or "I wanted to dry my nail polish quickly, so I just held my hands in front of the miners."
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From what I've seen of the S3s, they are virtually identical to the S1s. I'm suspecting they'll work as is as "S1s" in M's Ant Monitor. Anyone tried one yet?
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I just installed this on my Win8.1x64 VM (running in Parallels on my MBP). The bottom 2 are S3s, the top are S1s...  It appears to work with the S3 just fine. |
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Any other good sites to calculate mining profit? Coinwarz won't let me update the mining speeds.. just always goes back to default.. dumb.
It's working just fine for me... |
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So ... what is this random beeping all about from the S3's?
Every now and then I hear a beep, not sure if it's always from the same miner ... and neither of them ever switch over to a fall-back pool, so connectivity seems OK.
It's just a single beep, so contact with the pool/internet doesn't seem to have been lost.
I don't think anyone has nailed it down yet. There have been some theories ranging from expired DHCP leases to HW errors causing it, but nothing concrete. At this point, I just accept it as them telling me they're still working. Now, if Bitmain releases an update that fixes it, I'll be constantly wondering if they're still working properly |
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