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3481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 10:33:23 AM
Missing pages are sometimes ones not yet written, the red simply indicates the author hopes a page about the red term will exist someday; they might not even be planning to write such a page someday themselves, they might just be indicating its a page that would have links waiting to send traffic if someone did bother to write such a page.

Looking for red spots might be a good way to come up with ideas for articles. Though probably best check the author of the red won't mind someone else going ahead and whipping up a page to fill the indicated need. For me for example I make links to Galactic Milieu pages i expect to have to write someday and would want to write those myself, but also to terms that likely other places like wikipedia or whatever have articles on so we probably also should but that aren't directly on the route of the writing agenda i have at the time. Free links for whoever does make the page, and also indications i'd rather refer to a page about it on devtome than resort to putting a link to a wikipedia article about it.

its a pain going back later looking for pages that mention your new page's topic and wikifying them, seemed more reasonable to wikify them from the start so once the page does get written going searching for places to put links to it won't be necessary. Or not as necessary anyway.

-MarkM-
3482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Scrypt (Litecoin) ASIC Prototype on: June 14, 2013, 10:13:43 AM
So no link to the github repo of the mining software you wrote for the thing?

Why even claim you did that if not so that you can post a link to someone else's existing code with a few minor mods intended to make it look like you adapted it to new hardware?

-MarkM-
3483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 09:56:35 AM
Isn't youtube using html5 video too?

If it is that might explain why i have not had trouble lately viewing youtube videos the few times I have bothered. (I even have speakers/earphones now so have tried once or twice just to see if those work. I still hate the lack of random-access visual scan for parts worth reading though so still prefer written material. Maybe a speed control would help to be able to make it go faster without actually missing what you are zooming through...)

-MarkM-
3484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 09:50:50 AM
3. For example, I'm using Debian wtih Gnash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash) but not Adobe Flash, and I can watch Youtube videos. But not videos on other sites. Apparently most flash video players use some feature which is specific to Adobe Flash and are not compatible with Gnash. However, it is only a problem with player (i.e. a thing which shows buttons and whatnot), not a problem with video format itself.
4. FWIW Gnash uses ffmpeg/avcodec.

EDIT: Oh, it isn't video, it is Flash animation. I've downloaded it and it seems to be work fine with Gnash, so it is open source enough, I guess.

Okay so maybe the problem is the browsers, they claim a plugin is needed to view flash, and they aren't offering any free open source flash viewing tool they just send me to macromedia or adobe or whoever and they say sorry we are not going to be supporting Linux.

So maybe the free open source browser folks just don't know yet that there is a free open source flash viewer they can point people to, or they have not plugged it in yet because so far the commerical/propriery one has not actually stopped support yet they are just saying they are going to.

For youtube I often used to be told by the browser it simply cannot find any plugin at all that can view whatever it was that it thought i needed a plugin to view. I haven't actually run into that lately for some reason but maybe mostly because I got used to not bothering to click on links to youtube. (People seldom bother to include transcripts and I didn't want sound on my computer as I already had that on my television.)

-MarkM-
3485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 09:45:05 AM
I think that what doesn't make sense is what markm said. It's strange because I think he should have clear what is open source and what it is not.
Edit: Open source means that I will publish the source files, and allow people to view, edit and create new versions of this source files, despite the software I used to create it is not open source. That's what I have learned.

I am saying flash source code is not suitable for devcoin backing because flash is a proprietary language not a free open language-specification, as far as I know.

If indeed flash is a free open specification that other people besides macromedia or whoever it is has free open source viewers for, even then it is probably not suitable. There were free open source viewers for GIFs but still GIFs don't go in distros.

Can't flash building tools output normal animation formats, whatever they are? (Not animated GIFs, as GIFs are also deprecated...)

-MarkM-
3486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 09:40:48 AM
Reposting this, if this is THE thread (I'd bin the 'aegis' part of the title as just confusing)

Good as the other thread was locked.

is our wiki system really primitive or something (it mgiht well be)? As I thought in wikis once you put a categories section at the bottom of your article the category pages pick it up automatically, no one has to manually go around picking out page names and pasting them into the category pages, on the contrary the category pages are automatically created/generated and updated by the software.

All my pages I put a category on the bottom of should automagically appear on the corresponding category pages. in fact possibly even if i label them as in a category that does not exist it is possible the system is intended to automatically create that category, though i am not sure on that, maybe wikipedia doesn't want new categories made up on the spot for example.

it is possible that the script to create/update the categories is not being run on schedule by the cron daemon, but if so probably a human is expected to run it periodically.

Basically all the work you did pasting pagenames in the category pages should have been done by simply running a script.

it still of course depends on pages actually having a categories section listing what categories the page belongs in.

-MarkM-
3487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 09:30:35 AM
I agree with you with all you have said, it is rather better to use open source licenses. I will never give my money to companies such as Adobe. At this moment, due to my experience and free time, I can't manage to work with an open source alternative. But this doesn't mean that the work I create will be propietary work.

It is the actual product I am concerned about. A movie that you need a proprietary viewer to view is not suitable, it has to be in a codex that is open source and that has open source viewers available to view it.

Even if any open source viewers can view it, the actual media itself, the codex, the file they tell the viewer to display, should be an open source codex/format/type.

People should not need to use flash to see the thing.

Also, re "Being open source does mean that its source code is available for everybody to view, edit and redistribute it. The fact that Adobe Flash is not open source does not mean that the works created with it can't be open source.", we support free open source, not all open source. Commercial, proprietary etc open source does not qualify. Free as in freedom - to re-use, base derivative works on, alter, re-arrange, re-purpose, distribute, redistribute (all these freedoms go with it to those it is distributed to) etc - not necessarily free as in beer.

-MarkM-
3488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 06:51:36 AM
After the video is created, we can convert it to something more available to the masses. Who cares what he writes it in initially? Let him choose his method, then we will be thankful we have someone talented enough to create it and just convert it after the fact if we dont like flash.

We care because bounties and shares are paid only for free open source stuff, not proprietary stuff. Its the same thing as all the audio files in Linux distributions being .ogg, they apparently have to be because the common alternatives are not free open source codex / codices. (I think we also don't use GIF anymore too, similarly, ever since the big burn the GIFs campaign a decade or so ago or more.)

So sure if his flash authoring tool can also put out a free open source codex or he can convert it as you seem to expect to be possible (googling reveals google themselves made a converter to convert flash to HTML5) then fine, but we don't do bounties or shares for proprietary stuff so any bounty or share would be for the HTML5 or whatever free open source thing not whatever proprietary formats he used internally in his studio to create the free open source end-result.

If he cannot produce free open source but you can by converting his stuff, then it would be you who should get the bounty, and you'd share it out among your team as you see fit, such as to give him most or all of it for creating the flash thing you used to produce the actually rewardable end result.

-MarkM-
3489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: i0coins in Coinotron on: June 14, 2013, 06:07:05 AM
Oh great, a pool that merges I0Coin! Cool!

-MarkM-
3490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why no one has the balls to make a new SHA256 ? on: June 14, 2013, 05:52:49 AM
I thought there had already been a few new SHA256-based coins. Terracoin? Bytecoin?

But there are so many existing SHA256-based coins you can mine without diverting your hashing away from bitcoin that they seem kind of pointless.

if you aren't even collecting all the "free" namecoins, devcoins, groupcoins, ixcoins, i0coins, coiledcoins and geistgeld you can get by merged mining why even think about lowering your rate of aquisition of all of those, including bitcoin/ Its not as if some of those are not themselves already considered obscure, nor as if none of those have fast block rates. So there is nothing to gain by making yet another ixcoin clone or i0coin clone or coiledcoin clone or geistgeld (fast blocks) clone or whatever, especially if you are even going to be qable to merged-mine it.

Some of those merged coins are still ridiculously low difficulty too, so small miners can mine them much better than they can mine some new instamining crap that gets jumped on instantly by lots of hash power. Small miners have been mining some of these coins for years without any hassles from big mining farms.

-MarkM-
3491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 05:32:08 AM
Flash is dying fast. I don't bother installing the old versions that do work because already I get warnings that they do not plan to have any new versions work, so I might as well just get used to the fact that flash is just another walled garden I not only do not want anything to do with but also could not have anything to do with even if I wanted to because its that they don't want me in there not that I wouldn't've continued to grudgingly install their stupid proprietary crap from "network effects" unwashed-masses-pressure if they continued to make it actually work.

TL;DR: Flash is not going to be working on Linux going forward, so no one on Linux is likely to bother installing some long out of date version of a proprietary viewer just to view some adumentary...

Surely there must be some free open source animation system by now?

I would even argue that it is totally inappropriate, even undermining of DeVCoin principles, to be using some non open source crap to make our videos. It is a kind of misrepresentation even maybe, or at the least it implies that we too agree that free open source software is unsuitable for use for real world applications such as educational videos...

FOR SURE WE CANNOT PAY BOUNTY ON IT, RIGHT?

The entire content becomes non free-open-source by being unusable without a proprietary viewer???

-MarkM-
3492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Aegis DevCoin on: June 13, 2013, 03:01:12 PM
No it means we will post up the shares file to the websites the clients get them from, then over the next while the clients will each pick a random block number at which to download it, so that come the end of this round they will all have the list of shares ready for next round.

Then when the next round actually starts, which will be at the next block evenly divisible by 4000, they will pay out according to the first line of the file, the next block they will pay out according to the second line of the file and so on. If it is true that the file will have 1000 or more lines then the division into 4000 will be way more chunky than it was back when there were few lines. some lines will only get used three times, others for time, that is quite a significant difference. Back when there were less than a hundred lines the chunkiness would have been small, like maybe some lines only getting used 99 times others getting used 100 times. Maybe we should phase out fractional shares and use the ability to put five items per line to put five full shares per line or something. Or even look toward putting a hundred or more items per line.

Maybe even always have exactly 4000 lines, and fill them accordingly even if that means having some padding accounts or something.

-MarkM-
3493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FPGA/GPU optimized but ASIC proof SHA256 coin? Is it possible? on: June 13, 2013, 02:59:06 PM
Sure, just do sha256(sha256(sha256))) instead of sha256(sha256)

-MarkM-
3494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC FPGA discussion! on: June 13, 2013, 02:12:15 PM
I get 400 MHash from 5870's but only 250 KHash, so GPUs seems really bad for me for scrypt mining, the myth that they do as many kilohashes mining litecoins as they do megahashes mining bitcoins is just a myth to me so far, and I would much rather buy FPGAs than try windows to see whether it is true that windows gets better kilihashes than linux does.

-MarkM-
3495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Aegis DevCoin on: June 13, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
What is this Aegis that there is talking of people joining or having joined or whatever?

It is kind of out of the blue to me. Is it the name of the proposed offshore corporation or is it some forum somewhere where some stuff is published thus that has moderators? If so what does it have to do with devcoin?

What is involved in forming an offshore corporation?

-MarkM-
3496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Liquidcoin on: June 13, 2013, 05:01:35 AM
Liquidcoin is inherently broken, if you want it to survive it needs to have adjustable difficulty...

As it is it just becomes more and more orphans, which is pointless.

-MarkM-
3497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mining Digitalcoin and Worldcoin is less profitable than it seems on: June 13, 2013, 04:59:19 AM
Why is anyone still mining those fast coins (Digitalcoin, Worldcoin, Fastcoin), since it's way more profitable to mine coins like Litecoin, Novacoin or Feathercoin.

Maybe once the merged mined coins get updated to newer code GeistGeld won't be such a memory hog and more people will use it for applications requiring a fast coin. although it is also possible that all the fast coins will become just as much memory hogs eventually, they might simply not have been running long enough yet to really notice the constant accumulation of unspent outputs (which are all kept in RAM).

On the other hand bitcoin must have lots of unspent outputs too so it remains likely that a code update will fix both GeistGeld and I0Coin memory usage.

-MarkM-
3498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: June 13, 2013, 04:31:47 AM
Sheer number of posts is the goal, maybe? hundreds of posts on some obscure thread no-one in the investments section reads then show up there with a scam as a "hero member" ?

When DeVCoins are over $10, BiTCoins should be over $10,000 ...

-MarkM-
3499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DEVCOINS? on: June 13, 2013, 12:17:56 AM
It has gone down to 38 satoshis or less in the past I think. Great buying opportunities. Then back over 200 or even over 300. Great selling opportunities, if only to sell of the dirt cheap coins while retaining one's own actual hoard in case it some day keeps going up instead of going back down for another buying opportunity.

-MarkM-
3500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: June 12, 2013, 06:21:49 PM
My impression of DeVCoin prices was that they seemed to go in cycles.

Dumpers dump the prices down below 100,  sometimes far below 100, allowing buyers to buy up lots and lots dirt cheap.

The dumpers seemed to eventually run out of steam, and buyers would start to arrive, maybe having heard they can buy them cheap.

it is possible that it is not sheer impatience that keeps both buyers and sellers from placing an offer and waiting days or even weeks for it to be taken, it might partly be all the scare stories saying never leave money on an exchange. Whatever the reason, the big buyers and dumpers seem to just place their order almost blindly, just hey sell so many I don't care about the price I am a dumper and I need out of here in five minutes anyway so am not about to quibble about the price, or hey I heard cryptocoins might be going up so just give me however many i can buy for this amount of money.

The price goes up over 200, sometimes even over 300. VladVlad even seemed to have claimed to have bought for over 400, but maybe he wasn't talking about satoshis, maybe he was talking DVC/USD not DVC/BTC.

So the people who bought coins dirt cheap get to sell a bunch of them for double or more than double what they paid for them.

The price is high, word gets around, dumpers start checking whether they happen to have more coins to dump, maybe from merged mining or from shares.

The price gets dumped down to 100 or so or less, maybe significantly less, and the investors stock up on dirt cheap coins again.

There was one single day a month or more ago when I sold 100 million devcoins, bought them all back later the same day, took 100 bitcoins home and still had both devcoins and bitcoins on the exchange continuing to do market-making.

Right now they are dirt cheap again so much so that I am low on bitcoins to buy them with, but that is okay because every possible price from one satoshi all the way up to whatever price the dumpers have dumped it down to has offers of mine sitting there waiting for them.

I would like to pile more bitcoin there though so I can have many more offering to buy at one satoshi than at two, which in turn has more waiting to buy than I have sitting at three and so on.

I don't bother to drive the price up much by constantly offering more than whoever momentarily offers more than me because on the sell side I am selling only ten or so satoshis higher then the current high buy, so the farther I lag below the high buy the more spread I have between my own highest buy offer and my own lowest sell offer.

i have sell offers too at every possible price from whatever my lowest price in satoshis is all the way up some distance abot 300 satoshis. i'd like to stockpile more devcoins up in those higher numbers but can't as much as I'd like because i have to keep making actual sales in order to replenish my bitcoins to buy with.

But it has regularly happened that I look one day and find someone bought the price back up over 200, whereupon my having offers all the way up pays off nicely.

Really the market is still horribly thin. If you want to buy a hundred million devcoins you'll find the price is pretty high. If you want to sell 100 million other than the way i did (waiting for someone to pay top dollar for them) you'd clean out all my buy offers because i don't have them bunched up down at 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 satoshi yet to pick me up thirty to fifty million or more at a satoshi each...

Is there some actual reason for all this FUDdy expectiona/alarmism that seems to think these regular cycles are not still happing, with right now being just another of the regular recurring buying opportunities inbetween the regularly recurring chances to sell for 200+ satoshis per devcoin?

-MarkM-
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