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3481  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Vircurex down? on: April 17, 2013, 11:38:31 AM
Down.

that was rather....sudden....?
3482  Economy / Service Discussion / Vircurex down? on: April 17, 2013, 11:17:47 AM
is it just for me or others as well??
3483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TRC and PPC client in OSX parrallels - more risky/ more safe? on: April 17, 2013, 11:06:06 AM
It's much safer, especially if you only use your windows VM for these tasks, assuming you used an original windows disc to install the OS and not a cracked download. Why didn't you use Linux in the VM though? I would have thought that was the safest possible option, assuming the cryptocoin clients can be compiled.....

Yeah good point I am not sure that the Linux compiles always work....the always seem to hit a snag eg, this doesn complie, your not authorised , flie missing. etc etc
3484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / TRC and PPC client in OSX parrallels - more risky/ more safe? on: April 17, 2013, 10:37:50 AM
I am currently forced to use Parallels (windows emulator) to run widows 7, because bootcamp/mbr will not work on my disk they way it is partition.

I know  I will eventually get a second computer but in the mean time does anyone know

if there are any risks running TRC and PPC (or any client) in parallels on osx,


OR is it in fact safer to run clients this way as I can cordon of what drives on OSX any application ruining in windows on  parralles can access and thus what any malicious software can access in the Parallels.

3485  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Criticize my tamper-proof paper wallet design... and steal 0.1 BTC if you can. on: April 17, 2013, 05:19:58 AM
bright light and good software = I can get all your numbers, they just shine on through



I had lots of fun this weekend working on my own design for a two-sided tri-fold tamper-resistant paper Bitcoin wallet. Thanks for any and ALL criticism / comments -- whether it's about the look & feel, functionality, security features, etc. See:

http://youtu.be/V4H1VE3EAtI

This video is also a treasure hunt in which I happily invite you to “steal” 0.1 BTC . Finders keepers, so race on!

Design features:

  • Private key is hidden behind folds, so your wallet content is still safe if left out in the open or photographed.
  • Tamper-proof tape indicates when you (or someone else!) has revealed the private key.
  • Folding design obfuscates private keys so they’re hidden even when holding wallet up to a bright light.
  • Reverse side has basic wallet operation instructions and a register for writing down deposits / balance.
  • Private and public keys are replicated (and rotated) in triplicate to maximize chances of recovering keys if paper is damaged / crumpled.

When I’ve got enough feedback and a final design, I’ll publish a web page that will generate these wallets with just a couple of clicks. (No photoshop required, as the foundation will be based on the excellent wallet generator at bitaddress.org which as you probably already know uses a secure javascript page you can run even while offline.)

If you'd like to print out a sample for yourself, see PDF links here: http://cantonbecker.com/projects/2013/bitcoin-paper-wallet-design-video/.
3486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / How many people never plan to repatriate BTC to FIAT on: April 16, 2013, 02:03:09 PM
Just wondering how many people plan on never returning BTC or Other Cryptos back to GOV FIAT, that is they plan to wait for broad based adoption of BTC et.al so you can buy goods services, houses, bread...etc

This sort of view is a mind set I guess, but it makes the whole USD/BTC drama irrelevant to a large extent
3487  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should someone who bought in at $150 sell and cut their losses NOW or hold? on: April 16, 2013, 01:00:35 PM
I only bought 2 BTC so not worried either way but interested to see what peoples opinions will be.

please sell sell sell everything all the way down to 0.1c.....so I can be and early adopter !!!!!
3488  Economy / Economics / Re: A totally different mindset on bitcoin on: April 16, 2013, 12:57:11 PM
yes, facebook, the internet and countless other inventions had an uptake 10% per year



The latest crash proved that people's mindset has not been adjusted to bitcoin at all  Tongue

In a traditional economy, when something's return is highly above average (e.g. more than 100% per year), people will start to believe this is a bubble, and sooner or later, this bubble will burst and the return will eventually fall back to a reasonable ROI, like 10% per year

This wisdom have fundamental theory support: In a world where capital is largely available, if some products' return is very high, there will be more and more capitals attracted to produce this product and increase the supply, and earning will eventually drop to the cost of the capital (loan interest). Means high return will never last for too long

But for bitcoin, it is totally different. No matter how much capitals are added into bitcoin mining, the total amount of coins generated per day will never change (and just get less and less). The added capital just increased number of miners and raised network difficulty, reduced the production of each miner, thus increased the per coin value, instead of decrease it like in a traditional economy

So, in theory, bitcoin's valuation model is totally different than any of existing financial/economy model, and the anticipation should also be totally different. The price can rise quickly and forever, if there is a limitation on how high it can go, that will be available fiat money supply

But why people are still shouting this is a bubble when they see the price doubled in less than a month? The old mindset still rules, they are not confident at all in this new technology




3489  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why I dont care that I did not sell at $250, and why I am not selling on: April 16, 2013, 10:38:36 AM
Its simply this, I am in it for the long term, for every peak I could pick, I would also be wrong.

This smells of remorse and written to yourself rather than to us Wink

Bitcoin has been amazingly easy to make money from, for a trader it has AMAZING advantages over traditional stocks/ FX.

You have to square it with yourself of course and for every dollar you lose, see it as a dollar invested in your financial education Smiley

but I'm not even watching the market to sell or buy and do not do this, I'm not "investing" as you would understand it, I am rather claiming a stake in currency and then content with that stake, I don't even really think about USD/BTC, but BTC to TRC/PPC/LTC etc....I'm not moving back into Gov Fiat with my coins, ever.
3490  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin going to zero - Karl Denninger Tickerforum.org on: April 16, 2013, 07:21:37 AM
i hope he is they i can buy 100,000 btc
3491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The $1000 Bitcoin, yes it's worth at least that. on: April 16, 2013, 06:56:04 AM
1) Not enough market. At some point, investors star to realize that Bitcoin is only a speculative tool and that there are very few websites using it for real.
At some point, some of Bitcoin's market segments WILL experience a loss of confidence. This could happen gradually, leading to a tapering-off of Bitcoin's price growth, or it could happen suddenly, leading to a big drop. No-one should be surprised when this happens. it will happen at least once. Personally I think we're a long way from when it will happen.

I think the short-term risks are:

1. A serious problem at MtGox (e.g. an outage lasting a week or more), which would dent the credibility of Bitcoin in a big way. Not for existing users, but for anyone considering getting into Bitcoin. This would depress the price in a big way.

2. A serious attempt by the government to stifle Bitcoin. Or even just a credible statement of desire to stifle Bitcoin.

This guy [1] prophetic
3492  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why I dont care that I did not sell at $250, and why I am not selling on: April 16, 2013, 05:49:44 AM
Its simply this, I am in it for the long term, for every peak I could pick, I would also be wrong.

Translation: I bought at $250, cried on the downturn, did not sell and try to recoup my losses via trading lower, and am now trying hard to convince myself that I will someday recover my investment. When the market dips even further, I will declare bitcoin is permanently dead and sell my holdings for a 95% loss. No more than five minutes later the price will triple in recovery, and I will watch incredulously, telling myself that I was right about it being dead, and there's no way I could buy back into something that risky again.

After it has made at least a 2000% gain from the bottom, I will then buy in again with dreams of overnight riches.

How'd I do?

nope.jpg

I brought in a level much lower than now. But I stopped when I acquired a certain very small percentage of the 21M Coins. After that I need no buy or sell any more. Just careful divestment of small amounts into other crypto's
3493  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why I dont care that I did not sell at $250, and why I am not selling on: April 16, 2013, 05:44:37 AM
Why do you guys even think bitcoin will recover?
The media destroyed it, bubble pops, everybody is looking for the new virtual currency that 'solves the many problems with bitcoin', and ripple and litecoin are often named (not that that makes any sense...).

It doesn't matter what a small community like ours wants or thinks, media declared bitcoin pretty much dead, i expect to see single digits soon.

I was very optimistic long-term too, but i think the confidence is too damaged now because of the media hype and panic sells.

Honestly i hope i'm completely wrong about it...!

I didn't not buy in because of media hype I will not sell because of media hype. Rather because of the maths and the  implications

I purchased because CC's are a solution to a century's old problem, and will shift sovereignty to the individual away from the state.

Pandoras box is open, I care not for the old world/tech little markets or media, in the same way the flat earthers idea's are now treated
3494  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why I dont care that I did not sell at $250, and why I am not selling on: April 16, 2013, 05:31:28 AM
Its simply this, I am in it for the long term, for every peak I could pick, I would also be wrong.

So next time when I sell, thinking its a peak, and it does not come back, I will miss out.

So it's just not worth the effort/stress over a 10 year horizon to essentially get a zero sum game

True - but if you sold you could now buy 4 times more BTC for your long term.

no but I would sell later and only be able to buy back a 1/4, back to square 1
3495  Economy / Speculation / Why I dont care that I did not sell at $250, and why I am not selling on: April 16, 2013, 05:16:12 AM
Its simply this, I am in it for the long term, for every peak I could pick, I would also be wrong.

So next time when I sell, thinking its a peak, and it does not come back, I will miss out.

So it's just not worth the effort/stress over a 10 year horizon to essentially get a zero sum game

Sure I could make 4x this time by selling at 250, but next time when I sell at 300 and it goes to 2000 and only comes back to 1200, same loss, to buy back in.


The only time I would sell BTC is to trade into other Cypto's, as I have committed a % strategy to cryptos, the only uncertainty is which one will win out or which group, and internally this strategy pays off. Also I may trade between crypto's, but no coming back to FIAT with cryptos probably ever, In any event more and more services will accept cryptos....

I mean do you get some one to transcribe your emails and send them in the post for the last bit of the journey, no you just email, and maybe use a printer.

Eg TRC, PPC still 30 - 50, LTC 10 times what is was 2 months ago relative to BTC, so value actually held the same for me, the only down side is, when BTC goes up my value sorta goes up alot slower as LTC TRC and PPC drops a bit and you typically can get a lot more coins so acts a a magnifier.

3496  Economy / Speculation / Re: blockchain.info wallet error ? on: April 15, 2013, 04:40:07 PM
i have had this exact error and price is not updating
3497  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will be worth more than $10,000 by 2016 on: April 15, 2013, 04:32:08 PM
Please make this on bets of bitcoin.  I will bet against this.

that comes as surprise, very out of character for you proudhon
3498  Other / Politics & Society / Re: what will come after cryptocurrencies? on: April 15, 2013, 04:20:02 PM
What will come after fucking capitalism ?

If you mean what we currently have, I for one hope that capitalism comes after that.
+1
3499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin anarchy in need of some rules | NY Post on: April 15, 2013, 12:51:38 PM
I add regulation just means I want my version of anarchy not yours


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/bitcoin_anarchy_in_need_of_some_zTFr06G6IWEWYp3OSvJ99L

Members of the bitcoin community are starting to wonder if anarchy is the best policy, as recent turmoil raises interest in possible new regulations.

The digital currency, which is minted using computers running algorithms, had been plummeting in value for two days after soaring to above $200 a bitcoin earlier this week.

The exchange that handles the most bitcoin transactions, Mt.Gox, halted trading yesterday because of troubles, and the CEO of Coinlab, Peter Vessenes, said the exchange would be open to some oversight.

“We’d be happy to be regulated,” said Vessenes, who also is with the Bitcoin Foundation, an organizing body. “There is no self-regulatory organization for these. It’s pre-regulated right now, but we’re not anti-regulation.”

Vessenes runs North American trading for Mt.Gox. Yesterday, the market shut because of volatility, driven by a flood of new users interested in the currency and other users looking to sell at a market high point.

There was a lag in processing orders, helping fuel the panic, Vessenes said. There are some bitcoin enthusiasts who are against rules, however.

The currency, based on free open-source computer code that anyone can access, was created to stand apart from the traditional money system, and it attracted libertarians and anti-government types.

Still, the volatility in the price of bitcoins — rising from about $45 just a month ago to more than $250 this week and back down to around $100 yesterday — has some people questioning if no rules are good rules.

One venture capitalist, who was investing in bitcoin-based startups, said there need to be some rules and order before the currency can take off.

“Right now you have a bunch of anarchistic market dilettantes who don’t understand how markets work and don’t understand the perils of markets,” he said. “People who understand markets need to get involved.”
3500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Terracoin is ALLIIIIIVEEEE on: April 15, 2013, 10:28:49 AM
Sunny was it not the oscillation but the ability to deal make quick readjustment to deal with the oscillation, thus if the readjustment can be made quickly in spite of even larger oscillation is that not good or am I missing something here?Huh

In the original adjustment oscillation is limited to 4x, so you would have about 4 minute spacing in the slower half. The currently adjustment has similar or worse behavior, reaching over 20-minute on the slow side. Regardless a smart miner can still exploit this to greatly increase his profitability, probably even more so than with the original adjustment.

So your saying the miner can still block up the block chain for days when they jump off??? like they did before....?



no it would only last for over 20 minutes.  the diff adjuster keeps the transactions moving, but leaves a slight vulnerability for mining exploits

so how does this fit in with SunnyKings view this is worse than before?Huh
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