Yes i get same message and cant do anything. Cant even use multiply:)
That should not happen, we never block anyone from anything else on the site. Please PM me your user ID and we'll take a look.
But is SM really that "easy" to be exploited by bots?
It is a question of the level of difficulty to exploit. That is what determines the cost to them. reCaptcha is 2x to 3x more expensive to solve than any other.
Can somebody advise how do you get back the base reward properly?
Deposit $50 Also: The algorithm for reducing rewards takes a combination of the balance, wager, lottery and jackpot spending to calculate the reward. Jackpot spending has a higher weight (4x) and the lottery has the highest weight (20x).
If you do not want to gamble you can keep a balance above $50 to not have reduced rewards.
Most users will not need to keep the full balance though because their gambling history is also added up to calculate.
New accounts have full rewards for the first 100 rolls to help them build up a history and then the algorithm is applied to them. So opening a new account might seem like it helps but it won't.
Additionally, the balance needed to have no captcha is $100.
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wouldn't they be able to deposit small amount just to reach the minimum and then do slow withdrawal?
if they think it is still profitable (after in/out transaction fees), they might be willing to do that
100k transactions fees add up and they also have to take the risk that we might actually block the withdrawal. I have question about refback auto-share setup,
If I set 100% (or whatever %) of the commissions, is this amount protected?
what if before the distribution/payout time I lost all my balance, I wouldn't have anything to share
is there a way to set aside the current week's ref comm to guarantee refback comm to referrals?
That's a good idea, I'll add the option to protect that amount to the list of suggestions from the forum that I regularly pass on to wetsuit.
I personally don't understand why do you hold so much grudge against FreeBitco.in?
It's because he's a gormless troll with very little understanding of how anything works. He thinks we are a scam because the faucet attracts new users and some of them then choose to gamble. Some of them then lose. There is a truism that if something is free then you are the product. The free money from the faucet gives us an opportunity to market the gambling and everyone can choose not to play if they want. It is no different to faucets that display adverts, you are still being paid to be marketed to. It's no different to what Facebook, Twitter and Google do with their free services. |
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Thank you for any suggestion.
I'll ask wetsuit to have a look. |
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Actually it doesn't matter even if you have to solve 100 a day, because the verification only determines if you are a robot or not. Since my Google account had issues, sites with reCAPTCHA will always be a major hindrance for me.
It sounds like Google has blacklisted you. Sorry but I don't really know what can be done about that. |
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Why at freedoge my reward is a third and not half as it should be?
To try and make it unprofitable to bot a very small number of accounts that don't meet a certain wagering requirement the minimum reward will reduce by 0.5% a day until it reaches 33.5%. |
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Basically reCAPTCHA will fail to verify when certain users attempt solve the puzzles through their Google accounts (it's an issue which affected me for almost a year now).
I'm still not sure what you mean by verify. If you mean it just keeps failing to solve then that's Google's way of telling you that you do too many of them. I had a similar problem but after I stopped using sites with reCaptcha for a few days it was OK. Now I restrict myself to 5 a day and I just only have to check the box and don't even get a puzzle. |
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RIP me.  We're just experimenting, I don't know how long the change will last. What do you mean by "verification issues"? |
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Did the admin remove SolveMedia? I can't claim through reCAPTCHA due to verification issues.
We're busy trying to mess with the botnets right now. |
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The Queen write to me in PM, got something to say need for a botnet.
It's TheQuin as in Harlequin. I'm not sure why people keep asking for me to write to them when they have something to say to me. My PMs are open to Newbies. |
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I'd like to ask what the requirements are to be able to redeem the 100 reward points bonus? Thanks.
It's individually calculated depending on how much you have received from free-rolls and how much you have wagered. |
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Let's ask Wetsuit if it is possible to add some special rewards during some of these festivities?
That's a coincidence, the reason I had a chat with him yesterday was that he came up with an idea for a new promotion and he wanted to ask my opinion on it. It's not a one-off event, it is going to be a monthly promotion. Anyway, after that, I got to thinking we should do something special for our 5th birthday when it comes later this year, (around October 29th IIRC) so I'm going to mention that to him as well. |
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(I have a feeling the gambling thing went because otherwise people were forced to bet with quite a high minimum also - since the minimum chip size changed from 0.001BTC (~$7) to 0.004BTC (~$24). As far as I know, the minimum chip size was reduced to 0.001 BTC again when fees dropped: Mining fees are very low now. Withdrawal of 1 and 2 mBTC chips has been reenabled. It was only raised when 0.001 BTC inputs were almost entirely eaten by mining fees. I was confused about this as they haven't updated the site. When you get to the deposit stage it says: Minimum amount is 0.004 BTC with 0.004 BTC increments.
But after you deposit you can split your chips down to 0.001. I had mixed feelings about the betting option at first as well. But I've come to use it as a fun way to donate. The last couple of times I have used the service it has been disabled and I sort of missed it. |
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Yes i couldnt spin at work. Cant spin anywhere have 50% achieved towards the next bonus--> which means i gambled a lot and cant spin rofl. Well done program!!
If you give some sort of vague description of what the problem is it greatly increases my chance of helping to resolve it. |
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The problem with just using the ban hammer approach alone is that we always allow everyone to withdraw regardless of what they were banned for. I need to speak to wetsuit to understand his reasoning for doing that. But it means the bots don't lose anything and just make new accounts to start again.
This I also don't understand. It should be logique that whenever you find a person using a botnet or cheating and you ban them that he loses all his earnings. By still paying out these banned members they will keep on creating new accounts etc... I've haven't had a chance to talk to wetsuit about this yet but I've been thinking about it. The last time some people got blocked some idiot was posting in the other thread telling everyone to withdraw all the money as they would lose it if they got banned. I had a very easy answer, we only ever block users from using the faucet, nothing else. So I suppose it does really help with building trust and confidence. I *think* with the botnets it is a case of trying to catch and block them before they get to minimum withdrawal. That's part of the reason we're unlikely to reduce the 30k sat limit.
But how can you remove those detection if there is a solving captcha which will counter the bot? I believe this is pretty good enough whenever you want to use bot because it prevents them for stealing the faucet mode but how can it still be abused if you already put protection? So you mean that to avoid this, you just blocked them like that? And later you will processed their account by asking them to make a deposit to make sure they are for real?
No. |
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Is it because old players don't play anymore?
Some of us oldies still play but statistically speaking newer accounts have a much higher probability of being active. That's why they win more often. If you go back through the history you will see some older accounts have won prizes. I'm looking forward to the day I win and everyone claims it's fixed as result.  |
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I respect those decision from owner, but perhaps it would be somehow fair to announce changes, so people know it is not accident etc.. And telling how much gambling is needed for allowing us the top 2 bonuses again (rules).
The owner is away at the moment which makes communication a bit more difficult than normal. I got an email telling me of the change at pretty much the exact time he implemented it, so I didn't get a chance to announce it. The amount varies based on your history. We're working on a way of making that easier for genuine users to achieve. |
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Then, regarding solosss madness. I do not agree with how he is expressing himself, but I do consider the possibility of the site taking extreme measures to stop bots. Most of the time this measures comes with high collateral damage (as we are seeing for the last 10-20 posts).
IMHO, I prefer to be part of collateral damage from a hammer-ban (and ask for support to restore such account) than the site manipulating rolls or cheating for the sake of stopping bots by cutting profits to everyone (bots and humans).
In regards to your suggestion on how to better implement provably fair wetsuit has promised to include that in the new site. It requires a lot of back-end work to implement and that would be duplicated work to do it before. wetsuit is constantly working on better ways to combat bots and always does his best to try and limit the collateral damage to genuine users as much as possible. In regards to today's change to RP redemptions that have now been limited to a subset of users that we believe to be mainly bots, I've had one person who has reported it. He was understanding and said he needed to start gambling more. As a result of that, I had an idea of a way we could better implement this and I actually managed to get hold of wetsuit this morning. He's looking into what he needs to do to implement it so I won't say what it is yet. The problem with just using the ban hammer approach alone is that we always allow everyone to withdraw regardless of what they were banned for. I need to speak to wetsuit to understand his reasoning for doing that. But it means the bots don't lose anything and just make new accounts to start again. Every faucet would be at least 10 times bigger than it is today if there weren't bots out there.
That's very true. Every satoshi lost to abuse is a satoshi we can't give to a genuine user. I wish we could find a better way of dealing with it than reducing the rewards every time. |
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What are the odds of rolling a number higher than 9800, or even the number 10.000? It must be very low, because the odds are clearly not equally divided. Otherwise there would be lots of players winning bigger prizes than just the base amount.
I imagine the odds must be divided in the shape of a bell curve. Can anyone shed some light on this?
Click on the THIS GAME IS PROVABLY FAIR! link at the top of the page and then read the "How are rolls calculated?" section at the bottom. Then do some basic arithmetic. |
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I don't understand about Merit? what exactly I must do?
Learn to read before posting would be the best thing you could do. In this instance, you have found the thread where everything you could possible want to know about Merit is explained but rather than start off by reading the OP you posted to ask. |
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Because it has been proven this forum is controlled by very few people deciding everything acting like mafia/cartel, so it's safe to assume they may have many alts on this forum to bully others or boost their threads
I think you need to lookup 'proven' in a dictionary. It's a common conspiracy theory that is easily disproven by the many public feuds and disagreements among DT members. |
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