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3501  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just switched to running a Bitcoin Unlimited node on: April 07, 2017, 09:55:42 PM
I personally don't like the people working on Core, and I don't trust them. I'm not sure I trust Roger Ver, but I KNOW I don't trust Core.

Can someone here explain in an honest, intelligent way why I'm making a bad decision?

you are a crypto or better an anarchist and you run a code of BU?
lol
 Grin
who you think will buy this? Cheesy
3502  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Η Bitmain κάνει cheating στο mining on: April 07, 2017, 05:04:11 PM
Πάντως αυτοί που κατέχουν νόμιμα την πατέντα στον υπόλοιπο κόσμο έγραψαν σήμερα ότι θα κυνηγήσουν την Bitmain νομικά στην Κίνα μετά την ανακοίνωση τους ότι την χρησιμοποιούν χωρίς φυσικά να πληρώσουν τα δικαιώματα

https://twitter.com/lightningasic/status/850216052566900736

η ουσία όμως είναι μια. Η Bitmain επέλεξε να σταματήσει κάθε τεχνολογική πρόοδο στο Bitcoin μόνο και μόνο για το μεσοπρόθεσμο κέρδος τους και τίποτα άλλο. Τα υπόλοιπα που χρησιμοποιούσε ότι και καλά ήθελε scale ήθελε αύξηση των block η ότι ήταν οπαδός του BU είναι απλά για μας κοροιδεύει.
3503  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: [INFO] Συζήτηση για την Ισοτιμία on: April 07, 2017, 01:28:50 PM
τα αυτονόητα γράφει δεν γράφει κάτι που δεν το γνωρίζουμε κιόλας. Και η blockstack δεν μπορεί να θεωρηθεί με τίποτα ως bitcoin startup
3504  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Η Bitmain κάνει cheating στο mining on: April 07, 2017, 11:56:21 AM
γιαυτο ειχα πει τοτε με το ΕΤΗ οτι αν η κοινοτητα αποφασισει να τιμωρησει ή να αρει μια αδικια-κλοπη, καλως το κανει το Hard fork.
τωρα αυτο χρειαζεται στους κινεζους, να αλλαξει ο αλγοριθμος σαν τιμωρια, αρκει να το θελει η κοινοτητα Wink


 Shocked κοινότητα; ποια κοινότητα; ο καθένας για πάρτη του έχει καταντήσει (θυμίζει το κλασικό πολιτικάντικό ότι "όλα τα κάνουμε για τον λαό" ενώ στην ουσία δουλέυουμε για το συνάφι μας). δυστυχως ή ευτυχώς το bitcoin μεγάλωσε, έφυγε από την εποχη της αθωότητας και επειδή αρχίζουν και παίζονται πολλά λεφτά τέτοια επεισόδια θα είναι πιο συχνά από εδώ και πέρα. και υποτίθεται ότι πρεσβεύει και μια εναλλακτική του "αδηφάγου καπιταλισμού" λογική (και θεωρητικά οι καρχαρίες της wall str ακόμα δεν έχουν εμπλακεί).

τεσπά αν και δεν μου αρέσει καθόλου η λογική του HF παραδέχομαι όμως ότι κάποιια θέματα που μοιάζουν με γόρδιο δεσμό λύνονται μόνο με το σπαθί. και πολύ φοβάμαι εδώ πάει προς τα εκεί.
το Bitcoin ήταν πάντα ένα καπιταλιστικό σύστημα και όχι μόνο αυτό αλλά ένα αναρχοκαπτιλατιστικό σύστημα που η διακυβέρνηση του βασίζεται καθαρά στην θεωρία των παιγνίων. Απλά εδώ στην Ελλάδα λόγο της διαστρέβλωσης των πολιτικών όρον και της χρησιμοποίησης τους από πολιτικούς χώρους  που καμία σχέση δεν έχουν  με αυτές τις ιδεολογίες έχουμε δαιμονοποίησει και τις λέξεις.
Δλδ φιλελευθερισμο και καπιταλισμό στην Ελλάδα πρεσβεύει ένα κόμμα καθαρά διαπλεκόμενο και κρατικοδίαιτο που βασίζει την πολιτική του θεώρηση πάνω στην δημιουργία μιας ελεγχόμενης επιχειρηματικής ομάδας και γραφειοκρατίας.
3505  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / The only answer against Miners Mafia is UASF on: April 07, 2017, 01:02:29 AM
The only health reaction against Miners Mafia that threat not only the developer that maintain bitcoin for 8 years now but and the whole bitcoin community is UASF. Today after the expose of ASICBOOST and Jihan open threats for one more time against everyone, node that signal UASF had a huge spike

http://uasf.saltylemon.org/#oo





everyone must signal or comment to their nodes for UASF. To do this you need to simple add to bitcoin.conf this simple line and after restart the node

Code:
uacomment=UASF-SegWit-BIP148
3506  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Δεν χρειαζόμαστε τους miner για τo segwit-soft fork on: April 07, 2017, 12:58:21 AM
δημιουργήθηκε και site για να παρακολουθεί τα UASF node.

http://uasf.saltylemon.org/#oo

σήμερα μετά τις αποκαλύψεις για το ASICBOOST και τις απειλές για άλλη μια φορά του Jihan είχαμε μια εντυπωσιακή αύξηση των UASF



3507  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Η Bitmain κάνει cheating στο mining on: April 06, 2017, 10:37:48 PM
Η Avalon ο άλλος μεγάλος κατασκευαστής mining chip βγήκε σήμερα και κριτικάρει την Bitmain

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-hardware-maker-avalon-calls-mining-industry-changes/
3508  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: [INFO] Συζήτηση για την Ισοτιμία on: April 06, 2017, 09:34:31 PM
σήμερα είδα και αυτό εδώ που μου έκοψε το αίμα Cheesy



φυσικά ήταν από λάθος της πλατφόρμας που έδειχνε τις ισοτιμίες  Grin
3509  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Η Bitmain κάνει cheating στο mining on: April 06, 2017, 09:14:45 PM
Update 7/4:

Η Bitmain με ανακοίνωση που έβγαλε σήμερα αν και δεν αρνείται την ύπαρξη στο hardware της του ASICBOOST εντούτοις αρνείται ότι το έχει χρησιμοποιηθεί μέχρι σήμερα. Στην συνέχεια της ανακοίνωσις επιτίθεται για άλλη μια φορά στους developer του Bitcoin καθώς και προσωπικά στον developer Gregory Maxwell ότι είναι ο ενορχηστρωτής της επίθεσης εναντίον τους και τον κατηγορούν ως οργανωτή ενός προσωπικού στρατού troll που επιτίθεται σε όποιον έχει αντίθετη άποψη με την τεχνολογική πορεία του Bitcoin.

https://blog.bitmain.com/en/regarding-recent-allegations-smear-campaigns/

πάρτε ποπκορν το πάρτυ τώρα αρχίζει  Grin
3510  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASICBOOST Aftermath: What Now Must Be Done? on: April 06, 2017, 05:57:25 PM
lol

i didnt see people crying when an AMD CPU had an advantage vs a Intel CPU
i didnt see people crying when an ATI GPU had an advantage vs a Geforce GPU

but all of a sudden "bomb ASICS coz gmaxwell says so"

why the sudden bomb threats and deadlines and blackmails..
is the $70m debt recovery process coming soo soon?

personal i am not see a problem for someone to cheat mining. The problem will be with Jihan and other miners. This story only expose how shadow puppets is guys like Ver and Jihan and what lies he spread over a year now.
They not want to "help" bitcoin as they say. They not want bitcoin to be a succeed as they say. they only care about their profit and they personal wealth and for that reason they will not care even  if bitcoin completely collapse.
what about mining. do you understand how you calculate hashrate now? I think this ASICBOOST is like trading bot of chinese miners. If developers can remove this then we will all see the true hashrate from china Tongue
3511  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASICBOOST Aftermath: What Now Must Be Done? on: April 06, 2017, 05:40:54 PM
Why is BTC price rising?

because many felt to this Jihan Fud trap before.
3512  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: [INFO] Συζήτηση για την Ισοτιμία on: April 06, 2017, 04:55:49 PM
θα το βάλω εδώ μια και αρκετοί με το πρώτο dump του Bitcoin πετάγονται και μιλάνε για την προδιεγραμμένη "καταστροφή" του Bitcoin ενώ με το πρώτο pump των altcoin για το τεχνολογικό τους θαύμα Tongue

https://forum.blockstack.org/t/blockchain-agility-asicboost-building-on-the-strongest-chain/923/2

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There are hundreds of core developers and hundreds of companies working on Bitcoin. If you're worried about problems like (a) transaction fees and the block size (b) governance issues and fork risks (c) proof-of-work gaming and ASICBOOST... and you think you should switch to another blockchain because of one of these, just stop.

This decision is akin to leaving Fort Knox to start your own fortress because you saw some guy come within 200 feet of the building.

If you leave because of high transaction fees and block size issues, you'll simply end up going to a blockchain that's way less stable and secure and easily trashed with a few million dollars. Why not just use Stripe or PayPal? Why not use a centralized database?
If you leave because of governance issues and fork risks, you'll simply end up going to a blockchain with either (a) a much more concentrated system of governance or (b) a system with exactly the same problems of governance and risks of forking. Why not just make your own centralized or federated system like Keybase?
3513  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASICBOOST Aftermath: What Now Must Be Done? on: April 06, 2017, 04:45:47 PM
lets see what the maths really tells us

this post is very clear to anyone that you not even understand what we talk about here.... Tongue what a crap
what has to do this with ASICBOOST?Huh Ver is You?

asicboost should be showing a 20-30% advantage not a -1% disadvantage

yes but this advantage will show as their current hahsrate in the statics and not their hashrate and you manual calculate +30%.
if you want to proper calculate current mining hashrate you must remove 30% from it and then you can compare the blocks that create with the blocks that will original create with this -30% hashrate.
3514  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASICBOOST Aftermath: What Now Must Be Done? on: April 06, 2017, 04:44:30 PM
as i remember the first block size increase proposal for the "chief scientist" Gavin was 20mb! this is ridiculous and completely insane in tech term. How you think everyone will easy follow this crap and let bitcoin to exploit and become a bloatable unusable system?
The second proposal was from Hearn and with the hidden feauture of blocking specific ip transactions form bitcoin.
Yeah with this terms you cant no go anywhere in bitcoin world. If you need such "features" there is already paypal outhere
3515  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASICBOOST Aftermath: What Now Must Be Done? on: April 06, 2017, 04:32:49 PM
lets see what the maths really tells us

just done some quick maths


* stats at time of post

hmm
looks like BTCC and F2pool are the ones making more blocks than their hash %
not the other way round

*for those wishing to question the numbers


i would have expected antpool to have a block % of somethin in the 40's while having hash in the 30's if all this gmaxwell PoW propaganda was real


this post is very clear to anyone that you not even understand what we talk about here.... Tongue what a crap
what has to do this with ASICBOOST?Huh Ver is You?
3516  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASICBOOST Aftermath: What Now Must Be Done? on: April 06, 2017, 04:31:44 PM
You're still buying into the propaganda.   Hang Jihan from the highest tree if you want... i don't care -- We simply need bigger blocks.

Oh hogwash. We need increased transaction capacity. We have SW and LN, and you BU shills have been fighting progress for all you are worth.

It's like listening to someone keep saying that we need a 2nd horse on the horse cart, when semi trucks with diesel engines are available.

SG not activated...wont be... has less support from miners than BU.

That's like me saying:  "I need a car"... and you saying "well you can have this 1942 ford pickup in my driveway that barely hits 45 mph... but you
can only have it if 95% of the neighborhood agrees..but right now you have to walk."

LN still needs big blocks to work (it says so in the whitepaper) .....why can't you see that Core is obstructing common sense scaling?  It's so plain and obvious.

I don't care about BU.... I really don't ... calling me a "BU shill" just shows me you've swallowed the propaganda.

BU is just one way to get bigger blocks.  There's classic, coreEC, flexcap, other ABC proposals, extension blocks..etc... segwit is
the least palatable on-chain scaling , its minimal, and miners don't support it.



what propaganda you talk about now? Is not propaganda that a single Miner with the most hashrate attack the majority of bitcoin developers and propose a crap flaw code that twice crashed in two months only by a simple call script?
Is not propaganda that miners refuse to enable an over a year tested solution again from the majority of bitcoin developers?
and is propaganda everything else?
Look man. There are three types of ppl with your opinion. Payed shadow puppets, tech blind, or trolls. You can choose where you fit there.
3517  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Η Bitmain κάνει cheating στο mining on: April 06, 2017, 04:26:39 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/63otrp/gregory_maxwell_major_asic_manufacturer_is/dfvwga4/

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The suspicion was motivated by observing that SegWit was very likely incompatible with an optimized implementation if it--- which happened by chance, basically I was saying "to block asicboost the network could do something like <xxx>" and then I realized the words I was saying were basically part of the SegWit design.
With this in mind many otherwise hard to explain facts clicked into place-- e.g. aggressive attacks on Bitcoin Core that started after the proposal of asicboost, arguments against segwit that seemed to make no sense, advocacy for "hardfork segwit"... and this justified further investigation.
I hoped to find a test that would conclusively show which blocks were using it, but this doesn't appear to be possible.
More recently the "extension block + lightning" discussions have also stricken people as inexplicable (since many thought that segwit was being opposed because it potentially facilitated off-chain transactions)-- but they also fit.
3518  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASICBOOST Aftermath: What Now Must Be Done? on: April 06, 2017, 04:26:14 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/63otrp/gregory_maxwell_major_asic_manufacturer_is/dfvwga4/

Quote
The suspicion was motivated by observing that SegWit was very likely incompatible with an optimized implementation if it--- which happened by chance, basically I was saying "to block asicboost the network could do something like <xxx>" and then I realized the words I was saying were basically part of the SegWit design.
With this in mind many otherwise hard to explain facts clicked into place-- e.g. aggressive attacks on Bitcoin Core that started after the proposal of asicboost, arguments against segwit that seemed to make no sense, advocacy for "hardfork segwit"... and this justified further investigation.
I hoped to find a test that would conclusively show which blocks were using it, but this doesn't appear to be possible.
More recently the "extension block + lightning" discussions have also stricken people as inexplicable (since many thought that segwit was being opposed because it potentially facilitated off-chain transactions)-- but they also fit.
3519  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASICBOOST Aftermath: What Now Must Be Done? on: April 06, 2017, 03:54:44 PM
For those who've missed it:

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-April/013996.html

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/mining-manufacturer-blocking-segwit-benefit-asicboost/

Summary of the situation: Bitmain has been producing and mining with ASICs using an exploit that gives them a dramatic advantage over competing miners. This exploit is incompatible with Segwit, so Bitcoin Unlimited was created to gin up the appearance of public opposition to Core and place monopoly control over bitcoin mining and the protocol in the hands of Bitmain and associates.


"exploit" ... anyone is free to design their own ASIC... Given the nature of Bitcoin, I would say it would be wrong to enforce the patent and not let miners compete freely but that is for the courts to decide.

BU has nothing to do with this -- we simply need bigger blocks, this has been going back to classic, xt, etc... 1mb is BS, stop listening to core propaganda please.

is strange that the same ppl that use this shady tactics are the same that not only support BU but and every community toxic split attempt.
Their reasons is now very clear because and for and and for most ppl was a puzzle why they do it.
The reason is that Bitmain plan is to centralised mining.
Everyone that believe that Bitmain want big block is simple a stupid. They only to create a stall situation and nothing more. this is their plan and until now it works great.
3520  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Δεν χρειαζόμαστε τους miner για τo segwit-soft fork on: April 06, 2017, 03:45:09 PM
ε μην ανησυχείς αν δέχεται συνδέσεις απλά κάνει το signal.
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