Kolin Burges @The_K_meister 2m
Karpeles in Tokyo says MtGox is bankrupt. 750,000 customer bitcoins stolen & 120,000 company bitcoins stolen. None left #mtgox #mtgoxprotest
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When we start playing at that level, you can bet we'll play among some big players and at big stage. It would be about at time when big players would own big Bitcoin businesses and would have no problems to support the price to gain maximum dollars from their Bitcoin businesses.
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There are surely some extremist groups among Ukrainian protestors but you don't topple a government if you don't have support of people overall. Those extremist groups were just one part of protesting movement, whole Ukrainian people were behind it (and I mean Ukrainian people, not Ukrainian citizens who are putting Russian flags on government buildings in some prorussian areas these days, they don't give a rat about Ukraine anyway, they care about Russia only=
Surely protest were supported by USA and EU but when you give Ukrainians choice of picking West or Russians who ruled them for decades and still want to be the boss in their country, then that's not a big choice for them, they'll pick West any time.
I don't think they were a majority, but even if it was, you'd be surprised at how a bit of propaganda can steer a population, there have been endless coups driven by outside powers, just about any that you can name in recent years have been based on lies.. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Venezuala (2002). a recent attempt in Guinea where 4 Israeli's arrested for plotting coup: "According to the intelligence files dated September 13 and quoted by the French newspaper, the mercenaries aimed to provoke the Guinean police and armed forces to hurt citizens in order to incite political unrest in the West African republic ahead of the elections." They've used this same method countless times, you should watch confessions of an economic hitman to get a better idea of how and why. I absolutely agree and it's obvious that this was driven and supported by Western powers, I'm just stating that it's also obvious that Ukrainians would rather turn them self to the West and not to the Russia, and considering their history I think it's fair to support them in that.
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There are surely some extremist groups among Ukrainian protestors but you don't topple a government if you don't have support of people overall. Those extremist groups were just one part of protesting movement, whole Ukrainian people were behind it (and I mean Ukrainian people, not Ukrainian citizens who are putting Russian flags on government buildings in some prorussian areas these days, they don't give a rat about Ukraine anyway, they care about Russia only= Surely protest were supported by USA and EU but when you give Ukrainians choice of picking West or Russians who ruled them for decades and still want to be the boss in their country, then that's not a big choice for them, they'll pick West any time. "At all times sincere friends of freedom have been rare, and its triumphs have been due to minorities, that have prevailed by associating themselves with auxiliaries whose objects often differed from their own; and this association, which is always dangerous, has been sometimes disastrous, by giving to opponents just grounds of opposition, and by kindling dispute over the spoils in the hour of success. No obstacle has been so constant, or so difficult to overcome, as uncertainty and confusion touching the nature of true liberty. If hostile interests have wrought much injury, false ideas have wrought still more; and its advance is recorded in the increase of knowledge, as much as in the improvement of laws." Lord Acton, "The History of Freedom in Antiquity", 1877 Big guys don't support anyone but for their own interests, that's sure, they don't care about Ukrainians or anyone else. But if Ukrainians had enough of Russians then they have my support.
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1030XBT bought yesterday
Thats quite substansial, Obviously Barry does not have concers about the gox situation. Barry is buying for his customers, not for himself.
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There are surely some extremist groups among Ukrainian protestors but you don't topple a government if you don't have support of people overall. Those extremist groups were just one part of protesting movement, whole Ukrainian people were behind it (and I mean Ukrainian people, not Ukrainian citizens who are putting Russian flags on government buildings in some prorussian areas these days, they don't give a rat about Ukraine anyway, they care about Russia only= Surely protest were supported by USA and EU but when you give Ukrainians choice of picking West or Russians who ruled them for decades and still want to be the boss in their country, then that's not a big choice for them, they'll pick West any time.
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Looks like we lack steam to go up, I turned some coins to fiat tonight ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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+1 PS: Do people hate "+1" comments? They might seem to be empty of meaning, but I think they matter ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I was going to post "Hear, hear" but +1 is perfectly acceptable ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) +1
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heading to the bed for few hours, doesn't look like something important would happen.
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suspense in the air is killing me!..... who will move first.... and who will move harder?
Gox in trouble -> publicity -> more people understand btc -> people decide they want to be part of it -> a few days pass until they get their money into the exchanges -> I'm writing this post -> another day passes -> the money hits the exchanges -> better wear your space suit It's not that easy, I doubt the initial rise if it happens soon will be from new people, you don't read about exchange taking hundreds of millions of users money and sending money to another exchange same day. If we go up now, it's money from old bitcoiners, noobs might join later if it goes up but them starting it at this moment - I doubt it.
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suspense in the air is killing me!..... who will move first.... and who will move harder?
I have a feeling it's up. I've tested it a bit and whatever I have thrown got eaten on the ask side (few 20 BTC sales), I don't see much being thrown to the bid side so most of current low volume are buys.
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Volume - zero ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Someone is watching the 1minute intervals ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Last 2 1 hour periods on Stamp volume was 400 combined. It's so dull even this thread looks dead ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Volume - zero ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Several years? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Thanks mate, that's what we needed here
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TA is not everything. High RSI suggest to sell and low RSI suggest to buy. So let's see:
You're a regular comedian, aren't you. The only thing you proved by your post is that you know little to nothing about TA.* *because I'm afraid you'll ask: because that's not how identifying overbought/oversold conditions, or in general, TA, works. You don't look at a single indicator and say "Now I'll buy". So your chart is completely meaningless, like posting a weather forecast of today saying "chance of rain 60%", and then gloating "but it actually *didn't* rain". It is based (a) on a naive idea of how technical analysis works, and (b) on the equally wrong assumption that for TA to be profitable on average it needs to be "infallible", which is not how any probabilistic models works. If you read the OP it is RSI that is painted in red and noted as particulary and made the main argument of it. SO if anyone is comedian here, it's you.
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Shit its growing by $3 per day and is $150 ahead of us already?
Not sure whether to be happy or sad about that
At rpietilla's is 150 ahead, at OP's is some 100$ below.
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