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3501  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is risky, be conscious on: August 27, 2023, 12:46:11 PM
You are right that indeed more traders lose because they cannot control themselves. Well I mean they can't control their emotions in trading. The emotions that must be controlled in trading are the emotions of greed and the emotions of fear. These two things, namely Fear and Greed, must be controlled by traders who want to avoid losses in trading. Ah right, talking about emotions in trading, I think I just remembered that there is indeed a special analysis for this, namely sentimental analysis. I studied it a few months ago and it was quite helpful. But I have not mastered this one analysis. And how to get to know emotions and control emotions in trading can actually be learned through lessons on trading psychology. And there are books on this subject.

But after I also learned about it. Then I realized that the fact is that emotional control will still be more and more mastered when we have more and more experience in trading. The point is that experience can hone the mental resilience of a trader.

It seems to be a common thing now, and maybe most traders including beginners will get information about it and they already know it. Actually all traders will definitely involve themselves in every trade, I mean they will experience some mental and psychological disorders in trading, but it is natural because everyone has lust and also maybe with their greed, always want more than what they get and some do not accept defeat in the previous time. This will make traders become arrogant in trading and I'm sure they will forget all the trading plans they have prepared before. I think mental and psychological is the most important thing to have, because only that will help us to make realistic decisions.
Nowadays, there are a lot of lessons related to how to maintain psychology that they can get, and they can also find some of the right mentors to guide them.
3502  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 27, 2023, 12:01:17 PM
I think that it's too early to call chelsea as a stupid team. the decision from the club to buy him from MLS is very hard to accept but let him try to perform at least two or three games. We can judge how good or bad he was. I think that chelsea has been seeing him from all of aspects.
We cannot know how good he was before seeing petrovic to perform. I hope he will able to start his debut with chelsea soon. He is still a young goal keeper and he can try to get a lot of experiences played in chelsea at this moment.
Chelsea needs to buy a cheap goal keeper caused by the club potentially break FFP rules. The club needs to be carefully before try to buy the new player.
Chelsea is not a stupid team, they know what they want and they go straight for it without hesitation. The only issue I'm having with Todd Boehly is chasing some random player that's yet to get into limelight. Chelsea needs to lower their bidding prices on irrelevant signings this summer, always going for overhype players with hugh bidding. Checking in the case of Moises Caicedo, ofcourse Chelsea paid heavily to get him to sign for the blues,  an overrated player that's yet to feature for UEFA Champions League before, player that no significant titles added to his name, it makes no sense.

True, I also do not have the assumption that they are a stupid club. They have a lot of budget for the needs of the club and almost completely Chelsea players are now new players who they consider the best. Recruiting some expensive players is no stranger to Chelsea who are in need of new strength. I am quite reluctant to see some of the actions and decisions that Todd has taken, as if there is no doubt at all for them to bring in various new players who are very expensive. Right, I think they should be more able to consider some of the costs they have to spend, such as looking for candidates they really need. There are many players who are of good quality but that doesn't mean they are the players they need, so before making a decision including bringing in new players especially with a very fantastic amount, so they better look first from various sides about the impact they will get from these players. 115 million from Brighton for a player who barely has a significant performance. Look at Pochettino being passionate about his work and I say that the Blues still need a lot of time to become an influential club in every competition.
3503  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: August 27, 2023, 10:26:15 AM
There's no way a club would be selling their best players at the end of every season and still be expecting to do well seasonally. The management of Borussia Dortmund has imbibed the policy of constant sales of their best players and that's why the club is suffering from poor results at the moment.
They sold Jadon Sancho two summers ago, Erling Haaland last summer and now Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid this summer. They're good at developing young talents but that shouldn't be a reason to always sell of these young talents every summer.
There is no doubt that Borussia Dortmund releases its star players every season, it is business policy to cover the club's expenses. The most surprising thing is that Dortmund released their players to Bayern Munchen, who became their rivals in the Bundesliga. But they are always able to launch new talents every season, and after that they will be released for various reasons.

Departing from these factors it is very difficult for Dortmund to compete with Munchen in the Bundesliga, because they are not focused on winning trophies. With the club's business style, it's not surprising that their performances have been inconsistent.

Well there is indeed a slight difference from the management of Dortmund, when several other clubs develop some of their young talents which will be very beneficial for the progress of the team but on the other hand Dortmund actually sells some of their quality players to other clubs even to their own rivals. This kind of thing has been going on for a long time and maybe it's familiar to them for a business that is more profitable for them than keeping it for the sake of trophies, they don't really pursue that in every competition. So yeah, like you said, it's very difficult to be consistently good and every season is different. If only Dortmund didn't have the habit of selling some of the players they've managed to mold, then I'm sure they would always be in the top half of every competition, especially in the Bundesliga. I hope they can try to occasionally keep their quality players for the sake of competing in the competition for trophies, because the prestige and future of the club is also very important rather than continuing to do business like that.
But well everything will go back to their decisions and only they know about what is best for the club.
3504  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What does it take to play casino? on: August 27, 2023, 08:52:45 AM
There's no way to make money through casino, I can make sure you will broke in the future since a gambling addict always trying to make money even though he know he have sold everything he have just to gamble.


To make money I think you can, but it's just a win that can't always be repeated and a gambler will lose more money there than make it. This is natural and indeed this is already a concept in gambling, but like there are some of them who dissent and do not accept this statement and of course they will get a big loss due to their wrong mindset. And it is also true that for the assets they have, they will definitely sell little by little to be used as capital, gambling addicts are very likely to be able to do everything just to fulfill their lust.

If you're want to make more money, you can learn a new skill that will give an opportunity to get a better job.


Maybe there are some of them who already know that gambling is just about luck that will lead to the final result between winning and losing, and of course I'm sure they already realize that if they want to get money or a certain income then they have to look for other alternatives such as other jobs in general and which do not contain too many risks like those in gambling. They already realize this, but you know that everyone has a high level of curiosity, especially when it comes to money and also the huge chances of winning there. So I guess for those who already know about gambling, it's very difficult to think clearly in finding other alternatives that are more certain in terms of making money.
3505  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: August 27, 2023, 08:20:57 AM

Looks like you're not the only one experiencing this and I've also experienced it which is really tiring and haha. However, this incident became a lesson not to save money in a gambling account, so that every time I finish, I first withdraw the entire balance in the gambling account.
Where by doing this I can feel how big or small I can benefit and enjoy the money from the results of the gambling that I do.
And indeed I also think that there will be many people out there who experience something similar to what I experienced.
And inevitably we have to say that it comes back to ourselves, how we manage it and how we stay on track.

And I'm also not just one or two times seeing someone who plays gambling, then they win big and immediately withdraw it. And a while later they make another deposit to play again. Now this is also something that is wrong in my opinion, because surely most of them think that even when they lose they still use the money they made from previous wins.

Betting is really tempting especially if we still have funds in our wallets or in the casino exchanged. This happened to me before where I had a win streak but I was tempted to bet again believing that I could gain the same profit again. I was greedy and hopeful for another good win which is really a wrong move because I lost everything including my capital. From then on, I realized that it is also important to secure our funds after winning and as much as possible, withdraw everything after a big win because temptation will always exist and we might bet again when we can't control our urges. We have to be sure than sorry or else our urges might only take us into a worse situation.

Well and indeed the cycle will continue to repeat itself even though they are now aware of it but still if one day they get a win then they will deposit again to play again. Most of those who have won will think that by re-depositing or playing again they will be able to get the same winnings as in the previous time and even they can expect more than that. On the other hand, I may have experienced this several times, but it is difficult to prevent it. I think the fact is that all gamblers must experience something like this, greed is always with them, so the point is that there is nothing that can help us except self-control or certain limits in doing so. In this problem, in my opinion, it is better for us not to return to deposit or play again if we have won, we must be able to accept what we have got. For myself now, honestly, I like to immediately spend the money I win rather than depositing it again, so when the temptation to gamble comes again, my money has run out to buy various kinds of goods that I need and there is no choice that I can take there. Please try this method like me, because honestly prevention is better than cure. Wink
3506  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 26, 2023, 07:10:45 PM
-SNIP-

In the previous season, Barcelona failed in the group phase because they were unable to compete with Bayern Munich and Inter Milan. I don't think that's happening again with them this season. At least it can reach the semifinals or more.

don`t be too hard on Xavi, he went the extra mile. He was playing in a group full of big teams and couldn`t do better than he did. Xavi got many things wrong, I agree with you. It must be understood that it was also the first year.

I want to not be so hard on Xavi, and in fact i support him because in a very hard moment for Barcelona he show the face for everybody and take the management of the team, having said that i have to agree, this year in europe its KEY for him, another fiasco in europe and he can be ejected from his seat.
For the previous season, they had different performances between La Liga and European competition. They failed in the Champions League and they also failed in the Europa League. I still see it as a natural thing, because it won't be easy for Xavi to immediately compete in a bigger competition and have more pressure too. Winning La Liga in the previous season was also a great achievement that could be done, just imagine in his first season of work, at that time Barcelona was even thrown out of the top 4, but he could also succeed in bringing Barcelona to finish as runner up.
I wouldn't rush to judge them in the Champions League this season, as the domestic league only started a few weeks ago.
3507  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do anyone have done this? with gambling platforms on: August 26, 2023, 06:54:28 PM

And that seems to be the only reason why some people disagree with this KYC rule, because what they use to verify their account is very important personal data, and even we all know that it is a privacy.
That distrust makes them reluctant to do it, and it's very reasonable because as you said that we don't know whether our data is safe after being in their hands or not.

Well that becomes one of the solutions that can be applied, because with a limit on the amount of withdrawal they can avoid it by withdrawing more balances smaller than the rules that require them to do KYC.
And yes, many people still want to keep their privacy private from many people, including casinos, who will ask them to do KYC. They still don't want to do KYC, especially when they hear that hacking is happening. But that's the reality because if casinos or exchanges can provide security, users may want to do KYC.

I think setting limits on the amount of withdrawals and deposits can be one solution where gamblers must know themselves by not depositing and withdrawing too large funds so that the casino doesn't suspect them and will ask them to do KYC. It is also okay for gamblers to make small deposits and withdrawals as it does not take away from the fun they get from gambling.
It is inevitable that everything will have its positive and negative sides, and this KYC rule is no exception. The positive side is that we become safer and casinos definitely do that for the account security of each user, and the negative side is that we may have to give our personal data to them.

It's a choice for us, whether we want to do it or not. Because the casino certainly does not force or in other words if we want to do KYC then we can play there, and if we are not willing to do it then we cannot play there (if the KYC rules are very strict).
3508  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: August 26, 2023, 06:38:08 PM

But it is also not without obstacles, sometimes I personally feel greedy when I leave it after gambling but a few hours or even a few minutes later I think about returning to play and the result is that the money we keep in the gambling wallet is completely exhausted. Lol
But in my opinion it is not a problem as long as we do not make any more deposits to play at that time.

I also see that someone who makes a deposit sometimes doesn't think about keeping it. I mean once they make a deposit then at that moment they will spend it, either because of defeat or because they win and immediately make a withdrawal.
Looks like you're not the only one experiencing this and I've also experienced it which is really tiring and haha. However, this incident became a lesson not to save money in a gambling account, so that every time I finish, I first withdraw the entire balance in the gambling account.
Where by doing this I can feel how big or small I can benefit and enjoy the money from the results of the gambling that I do.
And indeed I also think that there will be many people out there who experience something similar to what I experienced.
And inevitably we have to say that it comes back to ourselves, how we manage it and how we stay on track.

And I'm also not just one or two times seeing someone who plays gambling, then they win big and immediately withdraw it. And a while later they make another deposit to play again. Now this is also something that is wrong in my opinion, because surely most of them think that even when they lose they still use the money they made from previous wins.
3509  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 26, 2023, 06:21:11 PM
It must be a shocking start for Atalanta to the match. Frosinone got 2-0 ahead in the first half already surprisingly. Atalanta have just scored now and maybe this might motivate them to make a comeback. I just don't understand why Atalanta have struggled this much in the first place.

Because Frosinone were seen on the first week as quite week against Napoli. I know Atalanta aren't at Napoli's level now but they are still a strong team of the league too. Maybe they underestimated their opponent quite much which led to this surprising score. I think this goal will help them get at least a draw.
The quick goal scored by the host will indeed make Atalanta surprised, because I also don't think it can happen and they have to be 2 goals behind in the first half. There is not much time left and Atalanta are trying to be able to create 1 more goal at least to make them able to draw in this match.
With the remaining time, they must be more calm and not too hasty, because it will be a disadvantage for them. Meanwhile, the hosts will definitely try to maintain their current advantage and play defense.
3510  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 26, 2023, 06:05:04 PM
The situation is almost the same as De Gea at Manchester United, he is still fairly good in performance, although it cannot be denied he has experienced a slight decline. And that's also happening to Kepa at the moment.

He's still playing well, but as you said there's a slight decline. I can't be sure if it's the impact of his own club playing badly. Because in this case in my opinion there must be a definite situation. We can't blame a player for doing badly, while his own team as a whole is doing badly, it's an unfair situation in my opinion.

I agree with that, we can't blame something from just one point of view. Moreover, what we are talking about is a football club that really needs teamwork. I don't know what is the exact reason that caused the decline in his performance, but if we talk about the last few years, this goalkeeper's performance has decreased because of love affairs. But hopefully he can perform more brilliantly this season.
Yes, we have to look at it from a broad perspective so that we can judge the player's performance fairly and without being singled out. Problems for a player will always exist, we cannot insist that a player must always be in a very good state, because a person's performance can decrease and can increase.

His debut with Real Madrid was a good one, he made a couple of saves when Real Madrid beat Celta Vigo by a narrow margin, which is a good sign of the kind of performance he is showing with his new club.


In the ongoing match, I don't see anything interesting coming out of the two clubs, Cadiz and Almeria, it looks like a draw is a fair result for both clubs.
3511  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is risky, be conscious on: August 26, 2023, 01:58:27 PM
Trading is very easy as people think but actually trading is not that easy. First need to know about cryptocurrency, risk and trading strategy.  Newbies think that trading is very easy to get rich but they don't know that it has high risks.  Before really jumping into the world of trading, it is important to understand risk management and funding first because trading is just as easy to get rich as it is to get poor.Those who are professional in trading always like to take risk because they can recover the risk but beginners cannot recover the risk due to which they face loss very easily.
The thing that beginners always miss before starting trading is thinking about the risks they face. Sometimes they focus too much on the good side. They are too focused on making big, fast profits. But they slightly ignore the big risks they face. Usually they will come to their senses after they have had a few unprofitable trades. And you are right that risk management must be studied and mastered before we enter into trading. Because without risk management, a person is prone to experiencing much higher losses. And yeah like you said. They will not easily recover the losses they face. In contrast to a reliable trader who trades with a mature strategy and management. which allows them to maintain stability of trading capital such as limiting losses with stop losses and such.

Well, and almost all the beginners who came, mostly the goal is just to make a profit, I will say something that is true to the facts and includes myself, at first I was also tempted to start because I saw the big profits that other people got. However, in my opinion, this is only natural and may have become commonplace in the eyes of other traders. And they will realize it when they experience a loss, but that's good because it will be a reference for them so that something like that doesn't happen again. That's right, basically there are a lot of things that we have to prepare to be able to trade here, as you said in the form of risk management. But in self-control I will emphasize more on them, that they have to train their minds more. As we know trading activity is closely related to psychology and also calm, so you must be able to train yourself to get used to making peace with yourself or existing conditions. Because there are so many cases of losses that occur because they cannot maintain their mental and psychological health, those who have experienced a number of losses in the past then make it difficult for someone to think so it is also difficult to make the right decision. Many then experience MC because of problems like this.
3512  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 26, 2023, 12:37:52 PM
Kepa realizes that he at Chelsea will sooner or later be wasted if he does not improve himself and if indeed his performance in Madrid is satisfactory it does not rule out the possibility that there is an option for this player to be glimpsed by Pochettino because we know how he was at Chelsea which was almost invisible because of Mendy then returned to the main squad before he was currently on loan.
Being in Madrid with the condition of the main goalkeeper must be maximized well by Kepa and my hope is that he has a good performance unlike at Chelsea where sometimes he makes blunders for his own club.
Precisely this is a very good opportunity for Kepa to show his quality. At Chelsea there was no longer a possibility for Kepa because he could not compete with Mendy but at Real Madrid he was brought in to replace the main goalkeeper who was injured.
If Kepa plays well, there will be many possibilities for this to happen in his future career.

Nope, last season he was very good because he was trusted again, it's just that Kepa's performance is still below standard which makes it a little more troublesome for him and Chlesea also prefers the new goalkeeper now.

Indeed, it will be very good if Kepa can contribute more because this can make him get the lost performance but this also depends on how he works because seeing from some previous cases at Chelsea, Kepa's performance is difficult to guess which makes the coach doubt because sometimes he can play very extraordinary but in other conditions he can be very bad.
The situation is almost the same as De Gea at Manchester United, he is still fairly good in performance, although it cannot be denied he has experienced a slight decline. And that's also happening to Kepa at the moment.

He's still playing well, but as you said there's a slight decline. I can't be sure if it's the impact of his own club playing badly. Because in this case in my opinion there must be a definite situation. We can't blame a player for doing badly, while his own team as a whole is doing badly, it's an unfair situation in my opinion.
3513  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 26, 2023, 12:22:05 PM
Quote from: Docnaster
Chelsea's performance tonight against Luton is absolutely great and also a testament for the significant improvement at the club since the arrival of their club's new manager Mauricio Pochettino.
Raheem Sterling has really improved his playing abilities from what we saw from him last season and tonights brace will definitely help boost his confidence when he's with ball. Chelsea might not win the English Premier League title this season but if they continue to deliver great performances like we saw tonight, they'll definitely have a good campaign.

The Chelsea new coach really showcased some improvement in this home match that brought a massive celebration to the team to embraced three points to move to the 8th position in the premier league table, which is a sign that they will go far in this season. Despite the prepare of Luton town prepared to draw the match with Chelsea in their third match, but Chelsea refused to allow such thing to happen than to lead the match with 1-0 for the favour of Chelsea in the first half to encourage their fans that they will definitely win the match with many goals which they did by defeated them 3-0. I think, Chelsea will do well in this season but it will be difficult for them to win the premier league title because Manchester city will not allow such thing to come to pass in this season.
Do not be too complacent with Chelsea's good performance in the last match, we also have to consider what kind of opponent they face in this match. I don't mean to underestimate Luton at all, it's just that I made a comparison of strength between Chelsea and Luton and there are indeed quite significant differences.

I hope they are not satisfied with what they have achieved lately, because there is still a lot of work they have to do to make them better to look forward to this season. Also keep in mind that this is the beginning of their journey, there are still many challenges they have to overcome.


In the ongoing match, Tottenham seemed to dominate the game. They immediately took the initiative to attack from the first minute. The second half will run, and they still lead the score while 0-1.
3514  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 26, 2023, 12:07:23 PM
I won't deny that money has made them what they are today, but is that the only reason why they can't impress on the European stage? Of course not. We can see from how their situation in the squad, yes they always have problems between one another, be it players with players, players with coaches and others, so with that problem their chemsitry is very difficult to create and the impact on their game is always messy. Star players will not always be a guarantee as long as their relationships are not good,
When you want to create a team just with money and not with a system that happens. City was a good club even before Pep came along, but they became something special with Pep, how come? Because they built a whole system with him and gave him the ropes and tell him to build any team he wants. Just to give an example, if PSG hired Pep tomorrow, and he started to manage that team for a few years, I guarantee you that he will build a team that will win UCL there too.

City took way too long, longer than it should, they had some chances they could have won and got unlucky, it happens and they finally got it, and got the treble along with it as well. As long as PSG doesn't have a system and just throw money at the problems, they won't win UCL.
With no intention of saying Guardiola is a bad coach, but the role of the coach is not the only one who builds the club, the role of management is also very influential on the development of a club. Honestly, I still doubt when they bring Guardiola and they can improve, as long as they are still managed by poor management. Vice versa, when they have good management but have a bad coach it will also be difficult. This is something that is interrelated with each other.
We see that City are good, and it must be recognized that they have a good coach and management.



Monaco started their disappointing games yesterday night against Nantes,a team which had only two lost games both at home and away.Nantes in fact played much better in the sense that they were much more pragmatic by scoring all the opportunities created by them while Monaco created more than 20 goal occasions only to fail scoring most of them,of course a great deal in this draw result for Nantes has their goalkeeper which saved at least 7 critical goal occasions so in this context Monaco needs to better,much better if they want to have a go for the title fight.Yesterday game though demonstrated that Monaco is not yet a consolidated team to be consistent in the title fight.
For me they were just unlucky in this match, so they could only get a draw. Maybe in the first 15 minutes they were disappointing, but after they fell behind by 2 goals they were able to develop their game and as a result they were able to create a goal in the 27th minute.
On the other hand the goddess of fortune was on Nantes' side, they didn't get many chances, but when they got the chance they could immediately create goals.
3515  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: August 26, 2023, 11:52:27 AM
Well, that's good, but it can only be done by a handful of people who already understand what to do. It can't be done by people who don't understand, maybe saying it can't sounds like a very bad thing, and I'll change it to people who can't yet.

I'm also not a person who always leaves money in my gambling wallet, but I occasionally do it during certain situations, for example when I experience this thing we're talking about. I think that's one of the best options.

Well, I've even seen some of my friends immediately make withdrawals even though the amount of balance he deposited was greater than what he withdrew. It's funny, but I really saw it. Lol
It's okay if we occasionally leave money in the gambling account wallet so that when we want to return to the casino, we don't need to deposit any more money, except that the money is already in the gambling account and we are ready to play immediately. And I even sometimes leave some money, maybe around $20 in my gambling account for a few days to reduce the deposit time which can sometimes be a bit long if the network is busy.

People who are not used to it might deposit some money to gamble and do it continuously. If they finish playing gambling, there is no money left in their gambling account, making them deposit another amount of money. We will choose which is most comfortable for us to use and use it continuously like that.

But if we know how to treat the money we keep in our gambling account, we can manage it well. Whether we immediately use it for gambling or even save it for a while so we don't deposit another amount of money, that's also okay because only we know the reason.

But it is also not without obstacles, sometimes I personally feel greedy when I leave it after gambling but a few hours or even a few minutes later I think about returning to play and the result is that the money we keep in the gambling wallet is completely exhausted. Lol
But in my opinion it is not a problem as long as we do not make any more deposits to play at that time.

I also see that someone who makes a deposit sometimes doesn't think about keeping it. I mean once they make a deposit then at that moment they will spend it, either because of defeat or because they win and immediately make a withdrawal.
3516  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A weird belief among some gamblers. on: August 26, 2023, 11:37:45 AM

I understand what you mean, and it seems like what was said before was not in that game. Allow me to give an opinion on this, experience and knowledge for analysis are needed in some types of betting, for example sportsbet, but for other games such as slot games for example it can be said to depend on luck completely. Maybe some people will play on slot games that have a high RTP, but does it work? not everyone succeeds by applying it and again luck plays a role in it.
Unlike the case with sportsbet, we can definitely see which club is most likely to win, it can be seen from the strength of the two parties who will compete, but that is also still the influence of luck.

Yes, we can predetermine the probability of winning a particular club, but the probability of winning is directly related to the odds assigned by the bookmakers. Also, as we all know, fixed matches, accidents and unforeseen circumstances happen from time to time. So the results in sports betting are very dependent on luck. Of course, this can also be compensated, but then you need to understand sports very well, which is not given to each of us.
Yes you're right, sometimes situations that happen on the pitch will make a lot of difference, for example the favored club has to play with 10 men because one of their players has to get a red card and has to leave the game early, it makes the situation change. But I also won't deny that I won more bets than I lost when I bet on sportbet, but I also lost a few times due to unexpected situations.
That's if I do single bets, but it's different when I do multi bets, which is more difficult than single bets.
3517  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 26, 2023, 11:06:45 AM
The contract offer to him by the Saudi team is really great. They are offering €240m for 3 years.

Klopp has made it clear that he wants to keep Salah. I think he is right in his insistence because if Salah leaves the team, Liverpool will become a very ordinary team. I think Liverpool should keep him for at least one more year. If they let him go without signing a good striker to replace him, things could get even worse. On the other hand, I think Salah might be unhappy at Liverpool because last season Liverpool looked like a mid-table team with no target. Also, they didn't make any signings to make a mark this season. So, this season they can play as a team with no target, just like last season.
for me if Klopp can make a wise decision I think Liverpool will benefit greatly from selling Salah to another club and definitely if they want to earn more profit sell to a saudi arabian club and use the money to get players who are more reliable and have more age young.
I have said this before in a EPL thread reply but sadly Klopp is not going to take that risk preferring to keep Salah rather than looking for new players and wasting time putting the chemistry together.

This could happen, meaning that Klopp could have sold M Salah to one of the Saudi Arabian clubs by getting a lot of profit in his case, and it makes sense what you say that Klopp will be able to find other candidates who might have a sharper performance on the front lines by utilizing the money from the sale of M Salah which must be quite large. But honestly it looks like Klopp will not be too rash in this case, because as we know M Salah is their mainstay player and I agree as said above that Liverpool will be an ordinary team without M Salah. But on the other hand if Klopp follows in the footsteps of Tottenham who eventually sold their only mainstay player, Kane to Bayern Munich with a very high clause maybe they can do it, but they have to consider it carefully.
Well true, if indeed Klopp does not want to be complicated or bothered to look for other candidates it is better for him to keep it, and if that happens it is also not certain that they can get players who match their expectations, and also in addition to not a few players, even though quality players who experience failure in the adaptation process so that they cannot meet expectations.   
3518  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: August 26, 2023, 10:42:14 AM

Tuchel influence at Bayern is undeniably significant, as evidenced by the high price paid for Kane. However, bringing in a high priced player like Kane may have put a strain on their annual transfer budget. While Tuchel wishes appear to be being granted, Bayern must balance strengthening the team while preserving its financial stability. Although the circumstance does not necessarily indicate a struggle for dominance, it does illustrate the need of making strategic choices. It is clear that Bayern has strong finances, cautious management is still essential. The complex interplay between Tuchel preferences and the club long term objectives ultimately shapes the team quest for success.

The fact that Bayern Munich went out of their usual way to seal a deal for worth hundred million plus for Harry Kane goes to show how much they value the manager’s opinion. Tuchel was somehow able to convince the club management to fund such a deal. I guess the club management is also interested in improving the quality of the squad to be able to compete for major European trophies not just the league title.
I think it's very natural why Bayern Munchen really want to get Kane, because they have the ambition to win the UCL. The money spent on recruiting Kane is not a significant problem for Munchen, because FC Hollywood is the richest club in the Bundesliga at the moment. Every year, Munchen is almost always included in the list of favorites, because it has squad depth and a winning mentality in the UCL.

On the other hand, Tuchel luck is expected to bring Munchen to success. I think Tuchel can achieve that, as he did with Chelsea in the past.

Well and we can see from their tireless struggle in the deal with Tottenham, they have received several rejections because well I also understand that Kane is the only mainstay player at Tottenham so this deal is running very tough. But now they managed to get it, and in my opinion Kane is indeed the best option that Tuchel has chosen. Previously I had also heard some doubts from some people regarding Kane's arrival at Bayern Munich, but to be honest I was the opposite. I think with Kane's arrival this is the beginning of the success of Tuchel's squad in the coming season, just look at him just joining but already able to make Tuchel smile with his contribution which was quite satisfying in yesterday's match. Well I understand that they have spent a lot of money on Kane, but I say this is not a problem or a loss because they will get contributions that even exceed expectations from Kane's performance the next few seasons, and I am sure that will definitely happen. This is a natural thing because in order to strengthen the squad too, and also on the other hand Bayern Munich have a tense season waiting for them, they must be able to be stronger in the competition now in the Bundesliga and also the UCL. So I quite believe in Tuchel and also including Kane's arrival there.
3519  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mistake that prevented your big win. on: August 26, 2023, 10:01:00 AM
Always.
It's hard to make oneself think that it is enough. It is sufficient for withdrawal. There will always be that part of our brain that wants more.
I have been in this position a lot of times. I gained 10 fold of my balance and yet I am still there trying to increase it to 20. But as soon as I saw my balance kept on going down after hitting the 10 fold. It made sense that it might be the limit I could get so I need to withdraw if I can make it happen again.
Luckily, I did and 3 days ago I withdrew a chunk of the amount and left a little bit for more playing time.
Discipline is a thing that is hard to apply. There will always be greed, envy from other gamblers winning more, and the thought that maybe we are lucky that day. All this considered, it becomes harder to let go or withdraw.
exactly! discipline will be a very hard thing for everyone to do, not only in gambling but in real life, discipline is a very difficult trait to set in our stance because there will always be the temptation of negative thoughts and I call it because of the high dopamine substance that affects thoughts cannot control themselves properly.
I fully support this discipline or I call it holding a commitment. because if this cannot be held with a strong stance, of course, discipline will also be one of the reasons a gambler fails to get a big win.

Of course, that's probably because everyone feels uncomfortable being ordered around, and you probably know that rules are a pain in the ass. But I do think that one should have strong discipline in this matter, apply some self-control factors, it's something they should do just for their own good. I think before they gamble, they should first understand all the risks in gambling itself. But well on the other hand I also understand that gambling is very susceptible to what is called mental, psychological which can really make them emotional, when they are emotional then any restrictions they have or including advice from others will have no effect and are useless. The mind is already completely dominated by their own emotions, so it is quite difficult and even very difficult to be able to reconcile with yourself when you are emotional because maybe you have experienced a lot of defeat there. But I would say that this is normal and all gamblers must feel how difficult it is to be able to control themselves there, and also in my opinion instead of them being busy with the self-control that they have to do, they better try their best to stop gambling, that's the only best way.
3520  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you cheat in gambling? on: August 26, 2023, 09:38:51 AM

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

Of course, this will have a negative impact even though the tricks given work 100%.  Later, there will be an impact that can be self-defeating.  It's better to play honestly, even though we haven't been able to win big, but we can feel our own satisfaction, the sensation will be more real and tense, of course, it will be entertaining from this tension.
I agree with you, that people who play gambling by playing honestly will feel more memorable even though the results will win or lose later, sometimes people who play fraudulent gambling only think about winning and don't want to lose in this case. The problem is, there are times when someone first plays gambling by cheating and wins on the same day, that person will repeat it at a later date because it will become an early habit for him. And if the habit of playing gambling in a fraudulent way is not controlled then one day big problems will occur soon, so it would be nice if you play gambling honestly and be disciplined in the rules of gambling.

Well and that means they are purely playing with luck, honestly I also always use this when gambling. Oh well I have a colleague who every time I gamble always uses various strategies and also unclear patterns, when he sees me play he always tells me to use the strategy he has but honestly I'm a little uncomfortable with it, after all I never believe in such things in gambling and it absolutely cannot increase the chances of winning. But well on the other hand maybe every gambler has his own way of gambling, so okay I understand it. And it is proven that my colleague always loses even though he has used various strategies. So the point is very true that gamble according to your wishes, do not rely on strategies or other things because it is only about your luck that can bring you to victory for the luck you get.

Just enjoy every round and don't think about other things like cheating at the casino because it will only be useless and there is no point at all, and also we must be a responsible gambler by accepting all the final results of winning or losing will be better for our psychology so as not to be disturbed and not too ambitious.
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