However, when they think this, they are not thinking scientifically.

Science tells us that everything that happens has a cause. Newton even made it into his 3rd Law, "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." We see that Newton is right when we look about us. The leaves in the trees wiggle because of the wind acting on them. The wind moves because of the differences in temperature in different sections of air, caused by the sun shining on some of the air, but not on other of it. And there are lots of other forces that cause the wind to blow as it does, like the amount of moisture in the parts of it that are near water.

While we don't see the individual molecules of air, so we can't tell which ones work to make the leaves move this way or that, we understand that the wind is doing it.

Science is the idea of finding out about things. A scientist sees an action. He wants to find out what caused it. When he finds this out, he wants to find out what caused the cause. And this keeps on going. The more the scientist, the more the examiner of cause and effect, action and reaction, and the further he gets away from the idea of pure random ever happening.

If there is anything that does NOT operate by cause and effect, action and reaction, we don't know what it is. We don't see it. We haven't been able to find it. Nature shouts to us in every way that cause and effect is what exists in everything that we know. There is no pure random.

The thing that we call random is only a method that we use to determine things that we are too weak to see the cause of. For example. We toss a coin and get random heads/tails results. They really aren't random. But since we can't measure every last muscle action that goes into the toss, we use the term random.

Anybody who believes that things happen by chance, hasn't really thought about it. If he has thought about it and still believes this way, he is defying science. In general, if he defies standard scientific law, he has a religion - or maybe a cult - in his defiance.

I think you have a long way to look. From http://www.arcticphoto.com/evenki.asp:

It redirects to the site that has the picture. The link in the image redirects to the image itself.

God's hope is to convert them, not kill them. You can't get them all either way.

Siberian Evenk woman in beaded headband.




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You can do that, now. Simply go to a different thread that doesn't talk about atheism.

You can't get away from atheists in this life, except if you become a hermit.

Now, can't we please stay on topic?   

No. Pessimistic pragmatist. But often, pragmatic pessimist. But a lot of times I am very optimistic about my pessimism or pragmatism.

 

Simply stated, the real reason that some atheists hate religion is, they are more into theism than they think.

An atheist turns his back on the idea of God so that he can live his life according to his own dictates. Often that life is in conflict with the things that God teaches. An atheist who has trouble pushing the idea of God or theism out of his mind, hates religion because it conflicts with the way he wants to live, and he doesn't like feeling guilty or even borderline guilty. In truth, he hasn't pushed the idea of God out of his mind as successfully as he has thought.

Some atheists are not like this. Some have pushed theism out of their lives so successfully that they don't have the conflict. They can listen to people talking about God all day long, and it totally doesn't affect their conscience. Usually these kinds of atheists don't hate the religion. They simply get disgusted with theists who get in their face. And, they often get disgusted with other atheists who believe in a different form of atheism than they do, and get in their face like the theists do.

There are about 470 million gallons of water per person found in the oceans. The question isn't about water. The question is about desalinization and transportation of it. Gore is an enemy of the people.

Interesting way to spread Islam.   

You are absolutely getting there. Is your native language English? Or is English a second language for you? Just curious.

Poor baby. Are the fires of Hell paining you that badly already? Come. Turn. Be saved for peace and joy forever, rather than a forever burning, dying, death.

 

Government is not necessarily evil, not even university government.

At the time of the formation of the United States of America, people in the lands that would become states were very free - far freer than people in America are today. Also, they were not organized enough to fight a more powerful enemy - like King George and his forces.

The questions at the time were, how do we make a government that can organize us to become a force to be reckoned with? And how do we keep that government from becoming a "King George" over us, so that we can maintain our freedom?

The American Constitutional government is the kind of government that can do it. There are two parts to this Constitutional government. The one part is the strong, King George like, central government part. This is the part that is in force today. The other part is a hidden part that has more authority than the central government part. It is the common law part where each person, individually, can put the government down, any time he wants, if he only recognizes how to do it. Or he can unite with like minded people, and they can do it together, legally, and they can't legally be stopped by any others.

Now that things are getting rough, with the dictatorial, King George like government taking away freedom, it is time to stand up and put the dictatorial government down, thereby taking the university governments down as well.

The answer to the hidden part is tricky to see. It had to be somewhat hidden at the time of the formation of the American government, so that the government could become strong. But now that the government is too strong for its own good, here is the answer to setting it in its place.

The answer is in the 7th and 9th Amendments, and to a lesser extent, the 6th Amendment. But the answer is not used THROUGH these Amendments. It is only listed there so that government people can be held to their limitations.

How do we use these Amendments against government people? We don't. We might remind them of the Amendments. After that we simply do the things that we did before there was an American government, because that's what these Amendments essentially say that we can do. Our power does not flow out of the Amendments. The power always is inherent in each person individually. It was placed there by God in that no person or group of people has the right to dictate how other people may live, or what rights they have.

In other words, my statements against government (if that's what I want to state) have just as much authority and strength as other peoples' statements in favor of government. They can use government with themselves if they want. But they have no right to dictate their government onto me, just as I don't have the right to dictate their government away from them.

There are other parts of the Constitution besides the 6th, 7th, and 9th Amendments that show this. One of the strongest is the Preamble to the Constitution. Nowhere in the Preamble do the PEOPLE place themselves under the government. They simply set up the government to benefit themselves and their posterity. The people are always ABOVE the government, individually and as a group... just as they were when they took the authority to set the government up and NOT place themselves under it.



EDIT: If you are at all interested in hearing about this so that you can begin to free yourself from the dictator government, listen to the audios here http://1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/lectures/sovereignty/.

Traditionally, stupid is what the heathen are, waiting around to be burned at the stake by atheists posing as theists.

Of course, when cannibals burn atheists at the stake, they really burn them at the steak, because they taste better that way.

  

I agree with the view-the-world-scientifically part. If people viewed the world scientifically, and thought about what they viewed, they would see that God exists.

We all need God. When we find Him, we are far better off.

The casual atheist might not hate anything, even religion.

Many people hate things, but it is seldom that they hate things that they haven't thought about a bit... things that they are far more than casual about.

The deeper an atheist goes into thinking about his atheism, the more he makes it a religion for himself. If he thinks about it deeply enough, he will start to get angry at religion, because he can't get away from it. It is right in his atheism. Google "Is atheism a religion?" to see that the symptoms of religion are found in atheism as well as in the formal religions.

People can't get away from religion. A casual atheist isn't atheistic very much.

I feel healthy enough that I don't want to die. But I feel less healthy enough than I did when I was younger that I'm thinking that I just might die after all.

Getting rid of guns might allow me to die of old age rather than be executed by some joker. But it might not. Guns might be the thing that protect me from the joker who would execute me.

In any event, I just might die anyway. After all, how many people who are more than 200-years-old are announcing it?

It would seem you don't understand what people are.

In America people's rights trump government privileges. If the people don't know it or don't use it, they lose.

Who in the world pays you to be so un-American?