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I think that has been debated long enough. You see that risk is the center-point of why I suggested this bet.
It seems you got it, all you have to do now is deciding if you are willing to take that risk.
I now leave you to your own meddling, contact me if you decide to take me up on that so that we can make a new thread.
nuff said.
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Are ripple transaction publicly verifiable?
I honestly don't understand ripple, so IDK. javascript:void(0); Please articulate what magical risk you are subjected to under my new system. I.e, you buy me $250 worth of Bitcoins. At the market price bitcoin is at, at the time of the transaction. Or is there some magical manufactured reason you are afraid of this as well? I want YOU to be subjected to the same risk I am in case of a winning bet. What risk are YOU subjected to given the conditions stated above? If BTC breaks 50 it is likely that by the time I receive it it will already be worth less than 50 Dollars. In a way you are not even subjected to the same risk I am you only lose profit. (Good luck with the "But it's not Bitcoin going up it's the USD losing value." straw man) |
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Are ripple transaction publicly verifiable?
I honestly don't understand ripple, so IDK. javascript:void(0); Please articulate what magical risk you are subjected to under my new system. I.e, you buy me $250 worth of Bitcoins. At the market price bitcoin is at, at the time of the transaction. Or is there some magical manufactured reason you are afraid of this as well? I want YOU to be subjected to the same risk I am in case of a winning bet. This is the center point of me coming up with the bet BTW... |
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I was answering to your "up uP UP".
So, did you get the joke? |
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Are ripple transaction publicly verifiable?
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Don't bear me up on this, I'm only pointing out that the number of users is growing exponentially. FWIW, price could fall regardless of the number of users. That chart are the number of mywallet transactions, not the price. |
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for christsakes just bet and use this thread as proof
1. Post a fake redemption code 2. claim that the winner already claimed it when it doesn't work 3.  4. Profit There is simply no reason for him not wanting to pay me in BTC, considering I even covered his marginal "expense" in the exchange. Absolutely zero, other than him wanting to cheat me. This is bullshit. You either pay me with BTC, or provide me with some fool-proof method of payment that can be publicly verified, or there is no bet. I already explained to you this is about risk. If you win you take the risk of lost profits due to the price of BTC shooting above 250 before I can give you the USD. If I win I take the risk of BTC loosing value before you can give me the BTC. |
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This is getting dumber and dumber. I agree. |
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Again these are my terms, you either agree to them or you don't. This is a taste of your own medicine.  PS: I was really looking forward to this superiority complex of yours.  So I can agree to something where you can fake a payment, or I don't. From a person who provides no valid reason to wanting to pay through this method that can be faked. Hmm, this is a tough decision. How about no? Also, how is not wanting to be scammed translate into a superiority complex? You can send me an exchange code denominated in BTC too. This way I have the exact same risk of getting scammed you have. |
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Again these are my terms, you either agree to them or you don't. This is a taste of your own medicine. BTW: I am willing to accept exchange codes too btw this way neither of us has the advantage. It would even be instant vs waiting for 6 conformations.... PS: I was really looking forward to this superiority complex of yours. |
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Well you did write at 250 and above but only granted me below 50. Fair is fair And I offered you exchange codes not BTC. over $250 lol, fine. BTC is better than exchange since everyone can see the transaction and confirm it was indeed completed. It simply makes more sense for it to be settled as such. That may be so, but these are my terms. And why exactly, may I ask, did you have me pay you in a form that can be publicly verified while you will pay me in a way that cannot? As you put it, fair is fair. See above, If there is a method to make the transaction publicly verifiable I would do that. But it has to be in dollar. (Could we use ripple?) |
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Well you did write at 250 and above but only granted me below 50. Fair is fair And I offered you exchange codes not BTC. over $250 lol, fine. BTC is better than exchange since everyone can see the transaction and confirm it was indeed completed. It simply makes more sense for it to be settled as such. That may be so, but these are my terms. I take the risk of the BTC being worth less and less once the price breaks 50, it is only fair that you are exposed to the same risk. |
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Well you did write at 250 and above but only granted me below 50. Fair is fair And I offered you exchange codes not BTC. You can buy BTC of course with them once you won the bet. This way we have the same risk of the price overshooting/undershooting at the target. |
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Question is, do the sellers still have enough ammo left to bring the price down to ~$120 again?
I don't think there is a strict distinction between buyers and sellers. These things (also) happen because people panic, not (only) because people want to manipulate the price. |
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It costs 13.37M USD to 250. And you just made your 666th post, now if that isn't prophetic what else is?  What do you mean with settlement? I use BTC-e but I gladly accept prices in mtgox, if you prefer gox codes I'd convert it for you of course. I don't care if the BTC are on a exchange or you send a transaction. |
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Sure, I'd do that. There'd need to be an automatic settlement date though.
Why? If it does stay between 50 and 250 forever then we would be even. Because people on this forum tend to mysteriously disappear after a year or so of being bored and I'd rather close bets after some period? Don't worry I'll be around. take it or leave it. OH BTW:   |
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Sure, I'd do that. There'd need to be an automatic settlement date though.
Why? If it does stay between 50 and 250 forever then we would be even. |
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You didn't do that before or during the crash though I am interested since you didn't reply to my offer on my own terms: Will you accept the bet the instance I post if I comply to your terms or only when it seems convenient for you? Where exactly did you make this offer? Will you accept my bet if I just say lower in one hour if a selloff is on the horizon?
I'd be an absolute idiot to do a short term bet when it is obvious to me that a selloff is coming, and I see nothing contradictory about that. I didn't make this thread to randomly give money away, I made this thread to make money. I think the price will go up, and am looking for leverage. If I think the price is going to go down in the short term obviously I am not going to take any bets in the short term. I am willing to make a longer term bets at any time however. right there How about this one:
If price goes over USD250 first I owe you USD250
If price goes under USD50 first you owe me BTC5
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You didn't do that before or during the crash though I am interested since you didn't reply to my offer on my own terms: Will you accept the bet the instance I post if I comply to your terms or only when it seems convenient for you? Will you accept my bet if I just say lower in one hour if a selloff is on the horizon? |
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