I made a #1gGold-auction channel on freenode
Ah, how does one easily go about connecting to that? If you'll accept it here, I bid 205. Yeah I have some trouble. That's why I can't lock this thread yet. fergalish leads at 205 |
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I made a #1gGold-auction channel on freenode
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30 blocks to go.
Highest bid is still 200.
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and cleaned it thorously.
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One possibility for a separate GUI could be a web interface. That way there is no need to maintain a separate GUI codebase in sync with the daemon features. Many daemons such as CUPS and I2P already use the web browser as their primary interface.
I am not sure if it is the best for mass adoption, though. There could be conceptual problems; for example, if you are not familiar with the idea of "localhost", and you could not tell the difference between a web page out there and a program running on your own machine. Handling your money via the browser also has a lot of potential for security risks.
Seriously, GUI doesn't have to be part of the bitcoin project. There are many free software project that had only console client during long time. GUI came after, as a different wrapper project. And this is the way things should work. For exemple, GnuPG can be used inside different kinds of MUA. I'm sure there are many other exemples. |
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I've just watched this first video. Nothing new under the sun. This is privately issued money. It is a good thing, and it should be more used. It's based on the trust from the public towards an issuer. It should be easy to do on internet. By the way, to some extend, one can consider stock shares to be such a kind of money. Also, I don't believe hoarding to be a problem. Especially if the money is divisable enough, as bitcoin is. But we've discussed about that already in this forum. Search deflation in topic. Finally, I find it hard to believe that at the end, he proposes his perpetual coin to be related to the US dollar. WTF !? His perpetual coinn obviously has to be bitcoin, or at least a cryptocurrency. |
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It's not the length of the message that is the problem in any way, at least with text. I mean, even taking into account bandwidth one doesn't care if a message is 5 bytes or 500 bytes. If it includes attachments, yeah it makes sense to penalize huge posts.
The size of a message is not a matter of bandwidth, but rather a matter of mind lazyness. If you read a long message just to realize at the end that it was just crap, then you can consider you got screwed. You would have prefer a shorter message. Therefore short messages has to be rewarded. Thus, to me it make sense to pay more for longer messages. |
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In my ideal society, everyone has the power of being police and judge, so keeping control of your property should be way easier. If say a couple of guys get in my house to burglarize, instead of calling the police and hope they come within the hour I'll call my neighbors because I know for a fact that they'll come immediately, not because we are friends but because it is in their self-interest to do so. Not coming to help would send the message that it is ok to come and steal from this neighborhood, and when thieves come to their house they won't have my help. So they'll come and they'll help me kill the burglars to send the exact opposite message: "You come to steal in this neighborhood, you die". This makes it safer than relying in police because in this setting the cost of stealing a piece of property is greater than the profit you can obtain from it, so no one with half a brain will try it.
In your ideal society you would soon realize how ineffective it is to sollicitate your direct neighbors for security. You'll realise it's better to hire some people just for this task. They would get some special training and, unlike your neighbors, they would be ready to act 24/7. You'll give them some guns and a uniform. And finally you'll call them "police". Only difference with the current police, would be that your police would be a private organisation, founded by your neighborhood, in your neigborhood's interest. |
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90 voters out of 1200 members, that's too few imo.
Isn't there a welcome message or something where we could direct newbies to this poll ?
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This seems fine. So what's preventing us from making a debian package, which would be available at least on Sid ?
FYI, there's a package in preparation at http://bugs.debian.org/578157. Feel free to contribute there! Indeed. I'll send an email in case they need any help. |
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It seems that the debian bitcoin team is getting close : From: Jonas Smedegaard < dr@jones.dk> To: Matt Taggart < taggart@debian.org>, 578157@bugs.debian.orgSubject: Re: Bug#578157: bitcoin 0.3.17 available Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:27:59 +0100 [Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)] Hi Matt, On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 01:36:07AM -0800, Matt Taggart wrote: >I was just looking at bitcoin and found this ITP. What do you think of >Phil's suggestion to just disable the GUI stuff for now? > >Also I noticed that upstream released 0.3.17 this week. I find it an excellent idea. Sorry for not responding earlier :-( Also, if any of you would like to join me in maintaining this, I'd be happy about it. Regards, - Jonas -- |
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This seems fine. So what's preventing us from making a debian package, which would be available at least on Sid ?
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What about a system where people pay to post ? 0.01BTC per word, for instance. This way people would think twice before posting.
The question is : what to do with the money. It could be sent back to previous posters, proportionnaly to their amount of posting.
PS. There could be a market for "words". It could be fun.
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But there you're complaining about a different problem, the currency monopoly. Every libertarian agree with you on this point, there shouldn't be such monopoly.
I wrote this already on this thread. FRB is ok as long as it is not enforced and if other systems are not prohibited. |
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It's too bad we don't have any Indian nor african people. And only one chinese.
We should promote bitcoin in these countries.
African are generally poor. Maybe but many of them are confronted to the problem of money transfer, for they have to transfer the money they eran in Europe to their familly. So they could be much interested in bitcoins. |
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It's too bad we don't have any Indian nor african people. And only one chinese.
We should promote bitcoin in these countries.
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There is nothing fraudulent in fractionate reserves. As long as both parts agree in a contract, there is nothing fraudulent in it.
I've seen some economists, like Walter Block, trying the weirdest arguments in order to frame fractionate reserves as fraud. It looks like those conservatives distorting concepts in order to frame drug commerce as a violation or property rights, or when leftists try to frame prejudice and discrimination as an aggression in order to condemn them. This is just people twisting concepts in order to frame something they don't like.
Is the fractionate reserve system bad? Maybe. It's surely dangerous, at least.
Is it fraudulent or criminal? Not at all.
Of course, do not confuse a fractionate reserve bank in a free market, where it has to pay for the risks it takes, with the current central banking system, where the risks of such dangerous activity are payed by tax victims and currency holders.
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Basically when a banker makes a loan, he does indeed creates money out of nothing but the promess from the borrower to repay this.
I call it "legalized fraud". Why ? The creation of money comes both from the borrower AND from the lender. It's an association. The borrower gets the money he asked for, and the lender gets the interest, which is the reward for the paperwork and the risk. |
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I like anarcho-capitalism, but I don't believe in anarchy, for I can't ignore the paradoxical idea of forbidding the use of force without using force. And to me, "no rule" is still a rule.
I could consider myself as a minarchist, since I think the state should not care about economy, and that it should only focus on the monopole of force.
I'm considering objectivism and individualism. But it's kind of new for me, I still have to think it through.
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