It might be a bubble, with too many people getting college degrees, and yet, USA is losing a lot of its business to overseas countries that have way more college degrees than we do. I wouldn't say it's a bubble, as much as it's people studying what no one needs. USA is in dire need of degrees in science, engineering, and mathematics.
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I'm not entirely sure why her supporters on this forum want to disavow those of her devotees that got elected or that got appointed to government. If the board members of the Ayn Rand Society aren't "pure" enough, then the whole thing seems a little pointless.
I don't think anyone here is disavowing anyone. On the contrary. The argument isn't, "yeah, there are a lot of Randians in government, but they're not "true Randians," the argument is that there are few (very few) Randians in government, not many, and not enough. We can add Paul Ryan to her list of devotees (he had to backtrack during his campaign because of the atheism brand). Ron Paul's son is named after Ayn Rand. Did we get to "many" yet?
We got to 3. Out of 541 members in house and senate, and 7 members of the Board at the Federal Reserve. I'm sure the actual number is more than 3, since a lot of them likely stay quiet, but I doubt it's much more than 3, or anywhere near "many." Especially since Democrats don't like Randian ideas because they are decidedly pro-capitalist/anti-socialist, and Republicans don't like her ideas because they are decidedly anti-religious/anti-corporate cronyism. Democrats need to keep getting elected by pushing more social programs, and Republicans need to keep pushing god, and getting corporate kickbacks and lobbying.
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I am an American and I will not stand by while people cast unfounded aspersions at MY country. myrkul is a jackass.
Even if he is a jackass, can he cast founded aspersions at YOUR country? Or is that forbidden too?
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The fact that so many government officials and economists are Randians just makes her ideas more creepy.
Huh? Examples? Alan Greenspan. Last Chairman of Federal Reserve. Member of Ayn Rand Institute and of the Atlas Society. Friend and admirer of Ayn Rand and convert to her obhectivism since the early 1950s. Well, yeah, we know about him, and there's also Rand Paul and Paul Ryan... That's 3 well known ones out of the 100 senators, 500 members of house, 50 governors, and many other officials. Many of these people are very socialist (both republicans and democrats, with just their own brand of socialism) or religious ideologues. So... where is the "many" that are Randians?
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The fact that so many government officials and economists are Randians just makes her ideas more creepy.
Huh? Examples?
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Too late
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Of course it's OK to make fun of people who were just victims in a bombing. But only as long as you make fun indirectly, by blaming someone else for making fun of those people. Kinda like how it's ok to do homosexual sex acts, as long as you are only blaming others for doing homosexual sex acts (and are yourself a republican politician)
Where are you from Rassah? RodeoX, I've been ignoring him for several hundred posts because he appears to like terrorism. If what you say is correct, I'll hold my tongue for now. I'm from here. Who likes terrorism, me or myrkul? I definitely don't like it, nor think it's an effective method for anything, and I would hope myrkul doesn't either. My comment, btw, was a crack at you for assuming myrkul was making fun of anyone. You seem to be a bit too focused on thinking people are making fun of the victims, when no one here is. Kinda makes me wonder why you are so focused on making fun of terrorism victims.
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I'm a believer, but the number of people actively trying to turn Bitcoin into a ponzi scheme is starting to wear on me.
How are they doing that?? I think he means the pump-and-dump attempts. I wish people would call it all "Nigerian scamming attempts." It's no more accurate than the ponzi claims, but it at least sounds amusing.
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Yeah, see the look on his face? That look pretty clearly says, "What the FUCK are you trying to say to me? I can't hear shit!"
So it's OK to make fun of people who were just victims in a bombing, per your "logic". Check. Of course it's OK to make fun of people who were just victims in a bombing. But only as long as you make fun indirectly, by blaming someone else for making fun of those people. Kinda like how it's ok to do homosexual sex acts, as long as you are only blaming others for doing homosexual sex acts (and are yourself a republican politician)
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I'm a believer, but the number of people actively trying to turn Bitcoin into a ponzi scheme is starting to wear on me.
How are they doing that??
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I'm no longer 19 and have yet to read her work, I probably wouldn't enjoy it.
Read it fir the first time when I was about 26 or 27. Mind you, AFTER I got my degree in finance and economics (the one that included Keynesian based economic theories, and nothing about Mises)
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I hope you take all this in, Mike. There were some very interesting points made in this thread.
Many of which were "Be a sheep!" and "One of us! One of us!" If your point was, "It's ok, you don't have to pay taxes, the government will be upset, but they will for the most part leave you alone," I think it's really bad advice.
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Congrats on winning your Hindsight 20/20 prize. Have a gold star *
The topic at hand, though, is specifically offloading the debt that Bitfloor owed to you. In DeathandTaxes's case, Bitfloor owed him 200BTC, and although Bitfloor was not willing to do anything with the debt other than hold it on their books and attempt to repay it, Deathandtaxes was able to offload it to someone else in a private contract. Entropy just wasn't as lucky.
Thanks for the hindsight gold star! I recall this thread about you selling out of BTC ~15 or w/e it was a month or so ago, so I guess of everyone in Bitcoin you might be the most highly qualified authority to dispense these. It was at $22, but yep. Sucks to have missed out on the nice rise in price, but at least I'm not going to be affected by the wild swings any more.
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Actually they had offers, but Roman is financially inept and in general mentally unprepared to lead any sort of venture. He may be able to code, but he needs to be an employee and obey management. He's unable to self manage.
Congrats on winning your Hindsight 20/20 prize. Have a gold star *The topic at hand, though, is specifically offloading the debt that Bitfloor owed to you. In DeathandTaxes's case, Bitfloor owed him 200BTC, and although Bitfloor was not willing to do anything with the debt other than hold it on their books and attempt to repay it, Deathandtaxes was able to offload it to someone else in a private contract. Entropy just wasn't as lucky.
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I remember reading about a guy who avoids paying taxes, but the only reason he's not being arrested is because he now lives on his own compound, is heavily armed, and grows his own food and generates his own power. Basically, the only reason he is left alone is because they police figure it'll be too much trouble to go after him, guns blazing. So as long as he's just doing his own thing, they're leaving him alone. Does anyone remember what the notorious gangster Al Capone was sentenced to life in prison for? Also, I was disappointed that the video did not touch on a rather important part of the Social Contract. Specifically, what are the terms, and what is owed? Typically, in a contract, one party owes an obligation to another, and the contract is in force until that obligation is paid. So... - Is the Social Contract a certain amount of debt that a citizen has amassed while being born, growing up, and living in a country? If yes, then that amount of debt should be a specific number, and one should be able to pay it off. If the number is "infinity" or "your life," that's not a debt contract, that's slavery.
- Is the Social Contract a sort of post-paid services agreement, like a cell phone bill, that you have to pay after using? If that's the case, then you should be able to get a bill for the things you actually used, and at least have an option to pay for extra things you want and not pay for things you don't want. It doesn't matter if someone is stupid or smart enough to know what they want or need. That choice really shouldn't be up to anyone but the person agreeing to the contract. Otherwise it's called fraud, where you are signed up for services you never asked for, and charge with a bill you can't fight (some magazine companies do this).
- Is the Social Contract a rental agreement, that says that as long as you live here on this land, you have to pay rent to cover the land and all the fees that it entails? If that's the case, then there should be a certain price that you can pay to just buy the property outright. There should be an option to go from being a renter to being an owner. Yet there isn't, and the only option is to rent, regardless of how much you pay. This thing may be the only example that goes counter to "everything is for sale," since even if you own billions, instead of offering to sell the property to you, the government will just charge you higher rent. Because they can.
- And by the way, just leaving isn't an option, either. As long as you are a citizen, even if you live overseas, you typically still have to pay taxes back to your country of origin. You could renounce your citizenship, but that typically puts you on a shit list of whatever country you renounced from, meaniing it's only worth the risk if you already have a ton of money at the time to begin with.
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The problem with energy is that it's plentiful, and we get better and better at creating it. A currency should be scarce afaik. Interesting thoughts anyway.
Note that the issue with energy is actually extracting it, and that the easier it gets, the more I guess "futuristic" our economy becomes. We pay way less energy to get food and high-tech gadgets now than we did 100 years ago. Once we have enormous amounts of plentiful energy compared to what we have now, we'll no doubt have some technologies and quality of life we can't even dream of right now, but we will still have energy scarcity to "pay" for those incredible things we'll have. (e.g. you're currently not paying for energy to transport stuff between planets, because it's stupid-expensive. In the future, despite millions of watts of energy being possibly cheap, you would still need to spend billions of it to transport stuff across space).
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I guess it will never going to happen ever BUT what I can imagine a Ripple debit card will coming this year eventually. :-)
I'm having trouble imagining Ripple being released and being adopted by a large enough network to be useful this year, let along having a debit card.
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Roman posted in my thread that he wouldn't support any transfers, and killed any offers for the debt.
I'm pretty sure he posted that in DeathandTaxes's thread, too, so what's your point? No one was willing to offer even pennies on the BTC at the time.
How is that Roman's or DeathandTaxes's fault?
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People who think the debt should be payed in Bitcoin are completely non-sensical. The debt equals to the value of the holdings at the time of the hack. This value can be denominated in USD, BTC or whatever reserve of value. For example, if you want to denominate the debt in USD, the value equals the USD equivalent at the time of the hack corrected with the inflation rate since the time of the hack + interest rate.
I think you may be missing the investment potential part of the value. Also, if the debt was denominated in Argentine Pesos value, Bitfloor would only have to pay out 1/6th of the USD value now. So... why USD? And isn't "value" rather arbitrary?
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