Slow down, take a deep breath, and see if you can somehow string a sentence together. It's worth the effort because then maybe people will understand whatever it is you are trying to communicate with us.


If people didn't fall for it he wouldn't keep posting that link. It has been going on for months now. You're underestimating just how dumb some people are.

Thanks. Please let me know what he says about it.

I just tried some more blackjack, with a view to reproducing the bug, and found a different one:

I have 16 against a dealer 7. I clicked 'hit' and it told me I wasn't allowed to do that!



Edit: that was hand 40636, I clicked 'hit' a second time, got a J and busted...



Edit2: the game still isn't auto-standing on soft 21:



Edit3: I just saw the 'you can not do this' bug again, trying to hit my 8 vs. dealer 9:



That was game 40799, and again I just tried again and it did let me hit:



Edit4: the same bug again, trying to 'hit' and it told me I couldn't do it:



That was game 40838, and it did let me hit when I just tried a 2nd time, as it did the previous 2 times it happened as well:



I didn't get to test the double-after-split thing, since it never came up, but at least I did find a new issue.

Both great points. BTC was worth around half then what it is now, so it was still a huge loss.

And what 0n0t0le probably doesn't realise is that the site didn't profit 7000 BTC from that bet because the bankroll was provided by hundreds of individual investors. The 7000 BTC that was lost was instantly distributed to the people funding the site's bankroll. It would have the site owner thousands of BTC in payouts to the bankrollers just to have a big fake bet show up for a while.

You can read the story leading up to that 7000 BTC loss in chat log format. He started with ~2k, worked in up to ~7k before losing it all. Also, "So I just spent 2 hours in a dumpster". Read it...

There's a guy advertising a program that he claims can let you win 100% of the time at PrimeDice and other sites.

It's a coin-stealing trojan, so be careful.



See this thread for his ad. (Edit: thread seems to have been deleted now)
See this screenshot for how the fake cheating tool looks.
And go here to provide feedback on his activities to help others not fall victim to his scam.

Is there a thread about those sites cheating like that? Is there a site that charts the stats over time to make such jumps more visible?

People look at the amount wagered to get an idea of how much volume a site has handled. Busier sites feel more trustworthy, etc. If they're deliberately inflating their number to make themselves look better that's a serious red flag I would say.

I was going to take a look too, using the refund I got from the incorrectly settled hands at bitdice. But when I logged in to my bitdice account my balance was still zero.

Were the refunds not done yet? I was told it would take a day or two but it has been much longer than that already.

Good job. Thanks for that.

I've been feeling rough all day today, but v1rtu0so organised a 200-millionth bet giveaway, collected 100 CLAMs in prize money to be split 60/30/10 to the three closest people to the 200 millionth bet.

The winners were:

3rd #199999999 (812744) <kolloh>
2nd #200000001 (1124861) <Cyyy>
1st #200000000 (105159) <chrisw>

Congratulations to the three winners.

In other news, the site profit continues to recover as "BeatTheHouse" lost 9800 CLAM in a series of unlucky bets:





Recent site profit:



All-time site profit:



I was surprised to see that investors made a profit over the last week despite the site profit dropping from 76003 last Sunday to 71562 this Sunday. Here's a list of the weekly profit by a 1x investor (on the left) and a 100x investor (on the right). Weekly profit and cumulative return is shown for each:

That's this girl (NSFW).

Bro, do you even English?

Can you back that up in any way?

I can vouch for the fact that he won almost all those CLAM from Just-Dice. He started with a few hundred and turned it into over 17k before losing around 5k back, so the "stolen via HYIP scams" part is false. What about the "alt of TheGambler" part? Is that any more reliable, or just another guess?

What are you referring to?

I think he already sold the 17500 CLAM this thread was talking about:

If you have 50 CLAMs onsite and declare that you have another 100 CLAMs offsite, the site will treat your investment as if it was 150 CLAMs. You would risk up to 0.5% of your 150 CLAM investment per roll, ie. 0.75 CLAM.

When your onsite amount falls to less than 1/199th of your offsite amount, your offsite amount will be set to zero.

In your case, 1/199th of 100 is 0.50251256 CLAM. So after you lose around 49.5 CLAMs your offsite investment will be cancelled, and you will be left with around 0.5 CLAMs in your onsite investment.

You can set it to any number up to 99 times your current onsite amount.

Indeed. I've heard from some people who have hundreds of paper wallets with 1 BTC in each. They're wondering whether it is worth the hassle of making hundreds of new paper wallets and moving their coins over just to claim 4.6 CLAM per address. If each address has 1 BTC and 4.6 CLAM, then you gain 0.0055 * 4.6 = 0.0253 BTC per address you claim. That results in a one-off 2.53% increase in your BTC worth, assuming you trade the CLAM for BTC at 0.0055 BTC/CLAM.


If you're talking to me, it's not "my" distribution model, and I didn't choose anything. I found out about CLAM a while after it launched.

The model does favour people who had a lot of funded addresses. There have been a few examples of people taking advantage of that, too. Someone had a litecoin wallet with thousands of funded addresses in it, and so they were able to claim thousands of CLAM. They were probably running an exchange or some similar service, but we never found out who it was.

In another case some guy made himself thousands of DOGE addresses shortly before the initial CLAM distribution, and funded them all with small amounts of DOGE. He was also able to claim large amounts of CLAM. We don't know whether he created all those DOGE addresses because he had found out that CLAM was going to launch, or whether he did it for some other reason, and just got lucky.

It's also worth pointing out that only a small percentage of the initially distributed CLAM have ever moved so far:


That's only a little over 2% of them. It's quite possible that one day an old MtGox hot wallet will be used to dig up a whole lot of CLAMs. Or the hot wallet from any other BTC/LTC/DOGE service that was popular in May 2014.

No, he can't. There is no proof, because I had no connection to them.

I've no idea what "you put alot of work into this site didn't you?" is referring to. I did no work for dice.ninja at all. I pointed out a few problems with their site in this thread maybe, just like I would for any other site that I find problems with. Maybe they even paid some bug bounties, like most sites do when you point out new bugs. Is that the "work"?

I'm putting Tuvu on ignore now, and leaving negative feedback. Sorry dude, but you're just a waste of my time.

I posted about it in the other JD thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238613.msg11255139#msg11255139

He lost ~5k back this morning, and has also been making big waves in the Poloniex CLAM market, dumping 15k and later rebuying a lot of it back.

I joined the dicebitco.in sig campaign for one month, and got paid for that. I didn't keep the sig for a 2nd month because I didn't feel comfortable advertising them after a while.

I put dice.ninja in my signature for a short while, but neither requested nor received any payment for that. I was one of the first to draw attention to issues with their proof of solvency.

But BB never lets facts get in the way of trolling.

Why would a coin developer lock their coin thread?

Also, I can't help but notice that you don't list CLAM on your exchange. It's one of the highest volume altcoins, rarely out of the top 10 list at Poloniex.

I edited my post, probably after you replied to it, to add:


Since posting that I heard from a friend that they don't actually pay affiliates - he signed up as an affiliate and received nothing. So maybe reconsider whether you want to advertise them or not.

Well, first off, it is safest to assume that they *will* be stolen, and so to empty your address and commit to never using it again before importing your wallet into the CLAM client.

But the fact is that the CLAM client doesn't send the private keys anywhere. You import your old BTC wallet, and the CLAM client uses them to sign transactions which claim the 4.6 CLAMs from the initial distribution. Only the signature is broadcast over the network, not the private keys themselves.

The problem is that you have to trust that that is true, or spend a lot of time checking the code to make sure that it is true. And so it is easier to assume it isn't true, that the client is going to try to steal your keys, and so it's best to make sure the keys are worthless before giving them to the client.

tl;dr: the client won't steal your keys, but "better safe than sorry" so why not empty them first anyway?