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3541  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Forum moderation policy on: March 24, 2018, 11:54:06 AM
Tip for new users. Do not write short messages. They are deleted. To prevent messages from being deleted, you must write long messages. My messages, which consisted of 10 words, were deleted. Activity = 0.

This is nonsense. It doesn't matter how short or long your posts are but posts are removed for breaking the rules which you should read about here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Your posts probably consisted of short pointless messages like "thanks for this project" or just saying things like "watching", "great" etc and that's why they will have been removed. Stretching your responses out to 10+ words wouldn't have helped in this instance.
3542  Other / Meta / Re: Trust System Changed or what? on: March 24, 2018, 11:11:21 AM
All the feedback he has is currently untrusted including yours because none of the people who have left him ratings are on default trust, but your feedback left will have shown up trusted to you. To everyone else he shows up as Trust:   0: -0 / +0. He has a few negatives already but they shouldn't effect his score unless you or someone else has trusted them. Why did you leave him a feedback stating "I know Dan, and i trust him"?
3543  Other / Meta / Re: why every day we must repeat the same q in this forum section it's booooring on: March 23, 2018, 09:51:13 PM
r we in best bitcoin and blockchain tech forum or at children school

That's because most of the people making those threads time and time again probably are in high school, or at the very least if they have to take a basic aptitude test in English they would fail because they're not proficient English speakers. When you can't speak English very well and have little to no knowledge of bitcoin other than the very bare basics of it it makes a recipe for disaster and that's why the same stupid questions keep getting asked over and over again because they don't have the knowledge or capacity to talk about much else.  
3544  Other / Meta / Re: Hacked Account (Legendary) on: March 23, 2018, 08:15:17 PM
I don't understand...
In the mail that you block the account, why it's not possible to recover it and reset the email and password?

Is it so complicated to implement this?

The hacker took control of the account but once the op realised this he locked it via the security email which you get when the account details have been changed. He now needs access restoring back to him.
3545  Other / Meta / Re: TMAN'S guide to getting merit. on: March 23, 2018, 03:26:54 PM

* Improve your English language, this isnt just spelling and grammar this includes using words like Sir & Mr when I see those I imediately asume the person is a 3rd world poster
* Spend the time that you currently use posting incoherent rubbish to learn proper Written English, start with youtube there has to be over 3002 different videos about writing the English Language
* Read a few English books, you can download free Ebooks as a starter, look how sentences are structured common words etc.
* Remember a quality post isnt necessarily a long winded post, using words that make you sound like you swallowed a thesauras doesnt help your cause



Well these are all pretty logical, but for people who can't speak English very well they aren't going to magically improve overnight. It probably takes years to become fluent in English and it's not like they're going to go away and take a course and then come back when they're proficient. As long as they can get paid for their poor one/two liners then they're not going to waste time elsewhere because time is money. The issue is it's clearly people who can't speak English very well forcing themselves to make posts about something they know little to nothing about and that isn't going to magically change anytime soon no matter how much advice people try give them.
3546  Other / Meta / Re: suggest a new tool: Unmerit on: March 23, 2018, 03:19:44 PM
I wouldn't necessarily be against staff having it. Some threads really do deserve negative merit points especially for the workload they cause staff. Almost every day I trash another thread started asking what is bitcoin for you or when did you hear about bitcoin, and the countless stupid threads asking this or that or something vs the other and then there's all the what is merit and how do I rank up threads. People might think twice before creating the same old useless threads time after time if they're getting minus merit for them.
3547  Other / Meta / Re: complaint thread on bitcointalk on: March 23, 2018, 02:26:34 PM
There is a complaint board. You're posting in it. Meta is for any issues regrading the forum so that's why there's lots of people complaining about various things in here. Not sure if you mean have a new subsection or just one thread for people to complain about the various issues in but that would quickly become an unorganised mess and very counterproductive.
3548  Other / Meta / Re: Any penalty for selling merit? Missing on "Merit FAQ" on: March 23, 2018, 11:31:28 AM
I guess selling of merit is happening out of the forum or through PM, so such cases are going to be hard to prove ones. But in the case if such deals will be uncovered I believe those users will get negative trust as well.


Deals happening outside forum: If these are happening in online marketplaces, it can still be traced. It will require a lot of work on the part of staff though and I do not think they have that much free time. If you notice such a thing on any marketplace like Freelancer, you can bring it to the attention of mods.

Deals through PMS: Why are these hard to catch for the moderators ? Can't they check the pm of other members ? This is done on other forums I am part of .

This isn't going to happen. Only Admins (and the NSA  Cheesy) can read people's private messages and they're not going to invade peoples privacy just to see if people are trading merit. Admins don't get involved in this stuff and is usually left up to the community to police or enforce certain standards.
3549  Other / Meta / Re: Newbie Problems how to eliminate? on: March 23, 2018, 11:20:46 AM

I'm already working on this and theymos said he would implement it. Far too many people are signing up and straight away are asking the same questions that have been asked and answered hundreds of times or braking the most basic of rules like spamming ref links and copy and pasting etc. At least there will be no excuses when this does happen.

Wanna bet?  Cool
I believe most of these "Newbies" are account farmers posing "safe posts" they think won't be deleted so they can rack up some easy spam replies. I've reported many of these types threads in the past and not much if anything was done, so they may be right in their assumption.

I'm mostly talking about the people who get caught doing stuff like copy and pasting and then come out with the excuses "I didn't know it was against the rules" or "other people are doing it etc". Spam or duplicate threads are usually trashed once spotted or reported but they seldom are reported and I'm only one person against literally thousands of spammers so it's a lot of time-consuming and tedious work.
3550  Other / Meta / Re: Newbie Problems how to eliminate? on: March 23, 2018, 10:56:17 AM
I have suggestion/proposal about improving our Forum, it will not change any of the existing process of the system for registering new account. I just want this idea to be added (I'm just suggesting) . Here is my idea.

Like what I said, when a account is successfully created, the user is only directed to the home/main page of the Forum and it's up to them what to do because there is no any guide.

What if? After a successful registration, the user will be directed to a certain thread that contains all information that a newbie must know.
For example is a thread that contains all of the rules of this forum, some basic information about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies and information about Merit Systems. I know this is "spoon feeding" because if they really want to gain knowledge they must conduct research by their own. But, if we implemented this idea and still, they didn't follow the rules. The account will be permanently banned.






I'm already working on this and theymos said he would implement it. Far too many people are signing up and straight away are asking the same questions that have been asked and answered hundreds of times or braking the most basic of rules like spamming ref links and copy and pasting etc. At least there will be no excuses when this does happen.
3551  Other / Meta / Re: national sections in this forum? on: March 23, 2018, 09:43:36 AM
Thought something didn't look right with your other posts. You're copying and pasting old ones (and in the wrong sections):

Well, this explains a lot. Was wondering why I couldn't post.

GUIMiner's share count is not matching what BTC Guild is reporting.

For one of my workers I have 169 shares, and 2 stales. Reported as 169 (2). GUIMiner is reporting 173 (6), so that's at least 4 shares short. More so, I've done some mining before using GUIMiner and so I should have more than 173 shares submitted.

The same for another worker. I have 393 shares accepted, 7 stale (invalid) but BTC Guild reports 376 (9).

So is GUIMiner counting incorrectly? Or am I being jacked by the pool owner?


Well, this explains a lot. Was wondering why I couldn't post.

GUIMiner's share count is not matching what BTC Guild is reporting.

For one of my workers I have 169 shares, and 2 stales. Reported as 169 (2). GUIMiner is reporting 173 (6), so that's at least 4 shares short. More so, I've done some mining before using GUIMiner and so I should have more than 173 shares submitted.

The same for another worker. I have 393 shares accepted, 7 stale (invalid) but BTC Guild reports 376 (9).

So is GUIMiner counting incorrectly? Or am I being jacked by the pool owner?

I was talking about bitcoin on some forum and at some point I was explaining that all transactions are public.  I gave bitcoinexplorer.com as an example of a website where people could have details about any transaction.

At this point there was a misunderstanding, for one of the guys I was talking to thought bitcoinexplorer.com was part of the system, that during a transaction, both parties had to refer to this website in order to perform the transaction.  Of course, I had to explain that this is not the way bitcoin works,  that bitcoin doesn't need any website to function properly.

However, this made me think of something.

Right now there are a few websites that are very useful to the bitcoin project.   bitcoin.org and its forum of course, Bitcoinexplorer.com, bitcoinwatch.com and others.

Would the use of bitcoin be really the same without those websites ?  Isn't bitcoinwatch.com quite reassuring for instance, since it allows a user to check that "everything is right" by comparing his block number to bitcoinwatch's block number ?

So, if governments decided to shut down all bitcoin related websites and forums, then bitcoin would need to work in "silent mode".  People would have to trust their client only.  They would communicate via encrypted email about their chain length, making sure it is more or less the same.  It would be the same system, but I guess it would surely "feel" different.

I'm pretty sure it would work fine, but we should be mentally prepared to use bitcoin in such a "silent mode".

I was talking about bitcoin on some forum and at some point I was explaining that all transactions are public.  I gave bitcoinexplorer.com as an example of a website where people could have details about any transaction.

At this point there was a misunderstanding, for one of the guys I was talking to thought bitcoinexplorer.com was part of the system, that during a transaction, both parties had to refer to this website in order to perform the transaction.  Of course, I had to explain that this is not the way bitcoin works,  that bitcoin doesn't need any website to function properly.

However, this made me think of something.

Right now there are a few websites that are very useful to the bitcoin project.   bitcoin.org and its forum of course, Bitcoinexplorer.com, bitcoinwatch.com and others.

Would the use of bitcoin be really the same without those websites ?  Isn't bitcoinwatch.com quite reassuring for instance, since it allows a user to check that "everything is right" by comparing his block number to bitcoinwatch's block number ?

So, if governments decided to shut down all bitcoin related websites and forums, then bitcoin would need to work in "silent mode".  People would have to trust their client only.  They would communicate via encrypted email about their chain length, making sure it is more or less the same.  It would be the same system, but I guess it would surely "feel" different.

I'm pretty sure it would work fine, but we should be mentally prepared to use bitcoin in such a "silent mode".


Hi there,

There is a novella by my personal favorite author, Vernor Vinge, called The Ungoverned and I think the libertarians here would enjoy reading it. Later on, The Peace War expands on such ideas. Has anyone read those? I would be interested to hear any comments on how viable the system, presented in the books is, according to you. One of my major beefs with Vinge's libertarian society is that he automatically assumes that it would breed innovation in technology which would surpass that of the nation states with their top-down organized labs and factories.

Hi there,

There is a novella by my personal favorite author, Vernor Vinge, called The Ungoverned and I think the libertarians here would enjoy reading it. Later on, The Peace War expands on such ideas. Has anyone read those? I would be interested to hear any comments on how viable the system, presented in the books is, according to you. One of my major beefs with Vinge's libertarian society is that he automatically assumes that it would breed innovation in technology which would surpass that of the nation states with their top-down organized labs and factories.

Greets,
M



Bye.
3552  Other / Meta / Re: national sections in this forum? on: March 23, 2018, 09:32:02 AM
Not sure I've understood what you're requesting but they're are already several local sub boards. Russian one can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0
3553  Other / Meta / Re: Does giving merit to your company isn't allowed? on: March 23, 2018, 08:53:24 AM
E.g. of company (brother, sister, cousin, friend, parent etc.)

Having sMerit and sending it to my company is my decision since it's my sMerits to give. Why some members give me a negative trust for accusing my account and my cousin's account whose mentoring me in this forum an alternate account? We live in the same roof and using the same bandwith of internet. There's nothing in the rules said that you can't merit your company instead you can send merit to anyone you like.

You mean "brother", "sister", "cousin", "friend", "parent" etc? These are usually just the tired excuses people come out with time and time again. True, there is nothing in the rules about it but there is nothing in the rules against scamming but that doesn't mean the community doesn't frown upon it. I also really don't care even if you are truly brothers, sisters, cousins, friends etc as merit isn't something that is just meant to be passed between friends and family for shitposts. It's meant to reward quality posts and you're just abusing it to try cheat the system and rank up. So no, merit shouldn't be given to your friends or family members; it should be given to reward people for quality contributions to the forum.
3554  Other / Meta / Re: Hacked/Lost Account on: March 22, 2018, 08:04:37 PM
Hi hilariousandco,
If you're reading this, this is in line with our conversation in PM. Since I've exhausted "2 PM-per-day" limit for newbie account, I can't send you more proof via PM, so posting here.

You asked if there is any other older Bitcoin address apart from what I've already posted and signed message.

I found one here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg18960135#msg18960135

I'm signing a message from that address:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
My account eXpl0sive has been hacked/lost. The current date is 20-March-2018.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
113uKT7eh27QbCZ47csGGbvCy5rS7D99XL
IKmVhg8aL5LnOjbA6HwYc0/Cq2BCqev0ogiBzkbROi2aXlNSu1lrdEAh7Un7cj0p2xz0m+XtQXp3SQdDFevuYlo=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Can you please change my email ID to what I sent you in PM? Thanks!

That's not much older. I'm talking one years older not just a week or two. The older the address the more likely it is to be accepted.

OK, so its been more than 2 weeks and neither Cyrus nor Theymos has responded to my message. hilariousandco responded saying he can't do anything. So i assume there is no hope?

Message cyrus and theymos again if it's been two weeks.
3555  Other / Meta / Re: Merit [NEW] on: March 22, 2018, 06:52:59 PM
I'm less surprised about that than the fact that he's earned 4 merits already. 

They're all for this post as well which is just copy and pasting an article (which is properly attributed but it's in English in the Filipino board):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3095597.msg31959382#msg31959382

These sorts of posts really shouldn't be getting merit as it'll just encourage users to copy and paste articles to get merit instead of having to actually write anything themselves.
3556  Other / Meta / Re: How to determine the need for new local boards on: March 22, 2018, 05:46:26 PM
Also, finding trusted mods for the new board is often difficult.
A valid point. Suggestion: vote for moderators with merit Wink

Moderators are sometimes voted on for local boards but if you've got a lot of alt accounts that can be skewed. The sad thing is often the abuse in the local boards is not even reported by the native speakers which it will be blatantly obvious to. In fact, many are happy to just engage in it themselves once it becomes obvious they can get away with it. If nobody in that community is reporting the blatant abuse or even partaking in it themselves then there's certainly nobody trusted enough to moderate it and that's the dilemma.
3557  Other / Meta / Re: Any penalty for selling merit? Missing on "Merit FAQ" on: March 22, 2018, 05:37:39 PM
There isn't really any rule against it per se and it's not really enforced at an admin or staff level, so it's more of a community issue right now much like scams and other such shady behaviour. As far as I'm aware the only thing that is currently prohibited is merit sources selling their merit though I'm not sure what the punishment for that would be other than them being removed as merit source.
3558  Other / Meta / Re: How to determine the need for new local boards on: March 22, 2018, 05:24:00 PM
This doesn't really seem viable and will just be a waste of merits. The only real way we should measure whether a sub board is needed or not is whether there's demand for it by the number of people who are posting in their local thread. Also, finding trusted mods for the new board is often difficult. Any board that doesn't have a moderator (or a very active one) is quickly abused by spammers who realise they can get away with it (see the Chinese Press board that has been overrun with Chinese copy and paste bots and the Vietnamese thread that was 99% farmers copying content from online that wasn't even relevant to anything (and who is going to tell if you can't read Vietnamese).  
3559  Other / Meta / Re: Account hacked [signed message] on: March 22, 2018, 05:01:00 PM
Did you post the address anywhere? Ones in profiles likely won't be accepted.
I see it was posted here in July 2016 (archived):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545749.msg15553952#msg15553952

Ones in profiles likely won't be accepted.
I know posting an address only in the profile is the worst idea as a hacker can easily remove it.
But if the address is still there like in this case I don't see why it shouldn't be accepted.

Well I agree as long as it's staked elsewhere, but it's theymos and cyrus that need to accept it. Even accounts with messages signed from addresses staked in 2014 don't seem to be getting restored right now.
3560  Other / Meta / Re: Only 5 merit to Member !!! on: March 22, 2018, 04:35:57 PM
You got 5 merits for this post:

#JOINED TWITTER:
Twitter Profile URL: https://twitter.com/Denis_CryptoNew
Followers: 4035


And merited the same user back 2 to this:

Recently, there are lots of company doing KYC for ICO.
However, it is kind of akward that doing KYC on blockchain technology.
Do you think is it neccessary to do KYC for ICO??
Plz share your opinion.


For me personally this is problematic. I do not like superfluous red tape. All these registrations .. only spend time. But I think it's for the best. All the same, there must be certain guarantees.

Who just so happens to have registered the same day as you:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1116027 Bilipus August 20, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1115986 Akselrod August 20, 2017

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