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35461  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 19, 2015, 10:46:35 PM
Jesus talks about Hell in the Bible. Without mentioning the name "Hell," other parts of the Bible talk about eternal damnation.

God placed a part of Himself into everyone. Those who will not maintain their position in God as He place in them, are going to lose themselves completely. Because they are eternal in soul, it will take an eternity for them to lose that part of them that is like God, since God is eternal and beyond eternity, and has made them to be eternal.

The smelting pot of the Lake of Fire is more than simply a get-it-over-with destruction. It is the re-smelting down of everything that God placed into the universe... all of Himself that He gave to mankind... so that He get's it back purified, to be used as He sees fit.

If this were not so, the sufferings of Jesus would have been simple and easy. As it stands, "... and not for our sins only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

Smiley

Eternal damnation can easily be seen as eternal death instead of eternal life.

The distinction is in what life is. Life isn't some little whoopty-do thing that is here today and gone tomorrow. The life of a human being fills the universe in tremendously far-reaching ways. Removing it from the universe by bodily death doesn't work. True death of the soul is way more far-reaching than simple bodily death.

Smiley
35462  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: August 19, 2015, 10:42:34 PM
According to Mr. T (Treason) Bush Aztlan should just be given to mexico

Google "Bush Nazi."   Smiley
35463  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Suicide on: August 19, 2015, 10:40:45 PM
Suicide is illegal because it is a crime to destroy government property.

That is so true, government takes out a policy on the day of your birth registration.

If you know of any one who is feeling suicidal, help them by any means to choose life instead.

File a UCC1 Form on your strawman, and take back your property from government.

Smiley

I am not sure this can be done in the UK let me know if otherwise, thanks.

Aslo I would love for once, not to see any mail dropping through my letter box with name in all CAPS= they own you.

Very good article on the subject

I believe Japan in very tolerant with suicides, It is reported that there are over 30,000 suicides every year in Japan with middle aged Japanese men are more likely to be at risk. This is a very sad reality created by modern Japan and there are a couple of issues that need to be fixed in order to reduce the number of suicidal people

It can be done in the UK. I have not a clue as to how, but...

Since they connect you to the all caps name, they must have a reason for connecting. Do you have something like a birth certificate over there? This is where it all starts. From then on, all your "agreements" with government are through the "PERSON" created by your birth certificate. In some cases additional PERSONs are conjured up that are subservient to your original one.

As long as you don't know about it, you can't do anything about it except by accident. If you do it by accident, chance are you won't know what has been done.

They have to base the strawman on a real person. Otherwise they could simply go and create as many "people" as they wanted and rule the world. Since the all caps PERSON is based on a human being, the human is the one who has interest in it beyond all others. If the human doesn't pick up and use his interest, it is up to government to use and control the interest.

In the US, the UCC is a shortcut to laws that have been recognized over decades of use, in such a way that the UCC has actually become law. If every UCC book dropped off the face of the planet, we could still operate by going back to the original laws that the UCC is founded on. It would simply be a more laborious process.

Does the UK have a counterpart of the UCC? If it does, you can use it similarly. If it doesn't, simply find the laws in the UCC, and find their counterparts in UK law.

The most important thing to remember and study is common law and Queens Bench. At Queens Bench you go to court as a man and can require to have a man face you. The British government is not a man. They cannot face you. Their attorneys aren't going to speak in common language. They lose.

Consider Karl Lentz - http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/. Karl isn't big on UCC stuff. But he is big on common law and the interest you have in something that is your property over the interest any other man or government has in it.

Smiley
35464  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sexuality on: August 19, 2015, 06:04:17 PM
Found it interesting that parasites are showing to be responsible for so many aspects of how we operate.

Watched this documentary about a year ago about this parasite that would invade a fish making it act funny and more easy to be grabbed by a bird.
The bird would then crap it out a long distance from where it started and this was how they spread. Cutting the story short,it actually went through about 5 different creatures and made them act almost suicidal and appealing to their prey.
You combine that with them now saying the gut is the 2nd brain and you really start to wonder how in control we are.
So the pregnancy aspect was a real eye catcher.

Actually, anyone who is absolutely clean of parasites and germs (bacteria and viruses) probably won't have the urge to have sex, and will only have sex when desiring to make children.

Smiley
35465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Clinton Refuses To Say Whether Or Not She Wiped The Server on: August 19, 2015, 06:02:15 PM
That's because the only time she serves is when she is sitting on the can.

Smiley
35466  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Youre traumatized... and ill beat and harass you till you agree" on: August 19, 2015, 06:00:34 PM
Thought it was actually a thread on road rage. Huh

Until we all realize that we the beaten, and we the "beators" are all simply people, we won't have enough sense to be beaten only for the ways in which we harm other people or damage their property... road rage or not.

Smiley
35467  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 19, 2015, 05:52:43 PM
For each person there is a God, for others it is in religion, for others it is a god for himself. But when the believers are trying to impose their point of view, it looks annoying.

This is such disturbing thinking both ways.

Nobody likes to be forced into anything, especially if it is something that he doesn't like.

On the other hand, there will probably be loads of people in Heaven who were forced at gun-point or something similar (sword-point), to believe in the salvation of Jesus or be executed.

Who will be happier in the long run? The one who went to Hell because nobody forced him to believe? Or the one who went to Heaven because he was forced to believe?

Smiley

You still believe in hell?


What does the bible say about hell? Is it being tortured for ever and ever? Would a kind God really do that?

This video shows why the idea of torturing people forever and ever is not the case with bible verses and discussion.

If Jesus died for our sins, He died for them by dying and being reborn. The wages of sin are death (not burning in fire forever and ever).

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Here's where you are missing it.

Certainly a kind God wouldn't do that. For example. Why do people only live barely to 100 years in this life? Certainly a kind God wouldn't do that.

Man was made in the image of God. Mankind has a certain something where God has placed eternity in his heart. Ecclesiastes 3:11:
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He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end.
It's in man's heart. It isn't in his left hand. It isn't in one of his feet. It's in his heart.

God DOESN'T do it. Man does it. The fact that people only live 100 years if that, is not only the blessing of God - taking them out of this painful life - it is also the blessing of God not allowing them to foolishly and ignorantly accumulate more than a certain amount of sin debt that they will have to pay for if they happen to go the way of destruction.

The soul interprets destruction of the body as pain. The soul will interpret the destruction of itself as pain, as well. And when you have an eternal soul being destroyed, the pain will last for an eternity. "He has also set eternity in the hearts of men..."

Those who are being saved should not ponder on this too much. Such pondering weakens faith, and actually draws them toward Hell somewhat. That's why YOU don't easily recognize Hell. God is protecting you from it. But be assured. Those who go to Hell will, in themselves, receive an eternity of pain to the extent of their wrongdoing in this life, and of any intentional resistance against the salvation of Jesus.

Smiley

God wanted us to live forever. We sinned and that's why we die. It's also why the life expectancy went down so much from the beginning of the bible. The bible doesn't talk about hell. I believed in hell (because it was what I was taught), and read the bible and examined it and found it to not be true. So it's not that I don't recognize it, it's that I see the bible doesn't talk about it and it's a made up thing. We'll have to agree to disagree on that, but I think you're doing a disservice to act like that's where people go when they die.

Jesus talks about Hell in the Bible. Without mentioning the name "Hell," other parts of the Bible talk about eternal damnation.

God placed a part of Himself into everyone. Those who will not maintain their position in God as He place in them, are going to lose themselves completely. Because they are eternal in soul, it will take an eternity for them to lose that part of them that is like God, since God is eternal and beyond eternity, and has made them to be eternal.

The smelting pot of the Lake of Fire is more than simply a get-it-over-with destruction. It is the re-smelting down of everything that God placed into the universe... all of Himself that He gave to mankind... so that He get's it back purified, to be used as He sees fit.

If this were not so, the sufferings of Jesus would have been simple and easy. As it stands, "... and not for our sins only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

Smiley
35468  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: August 19, 2015, 05:36:40 PM



Rasmussen: Voters Want to Build A Wall, Deport Felon Illegal Immigrants



Wednesday, August 19, 2015

As far as voters are concerned – and not just Republicans -  Donald Trump has a winning formula for fighting illegal immigration.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 70% of Likely Republican Voters agree with the GOP presidential hopeful that the United States should build a wall along the Mexican border to help stop illegal immigration. Seventeen percent (17%) of GOP voters disagree, while 13% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Ninety-two percent (92%) of Republicans agree that the United States should deport all illegal immigrants who have been convicted of a felony in this country. Only four percent (4%) disagree.

Among all likely voters, 51% favor building a wall on the border; 37% disagree, and 12% are not sure. Eighty percent (80%) support the deportation of all illegal immigrants convicted of a felony; only 11% are opposed.

Trump made both proposals in a policy paper he released this past weekend that calls for getting tough on illegal immigration. He cites a Rasmussen Reports survey to back up his proposal to end automatic citizenship for children born to illegal immigrants in this country. Fifty-four percent (54%) of voters disagree with the current federal policy that says a child born to an illegal immigrant here is automatically a U.S. citizen.

Just 34% favor President Obama’s plan to protect up to five million illegal immigrants from deportation.   Most voters continue to think instead that the United States is not aggressive enough in deporting those who are here illegally.

The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on August 17-18, 2015 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Gallup released a new survey last week with the headline, “In U.S., 65% Favor Path to Citizenship for Illegal Immigrants.”  But the actual question shows that 65% of Americans favor a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants “if they meet certain requirements over time.” Unspecified in the question is what those requirements are and the length of time in question.

Rasmussen Reports has found consistently for years that most voters want the border with Mexico secured to prevent further illegal immigration before there is any talk of amnesty. In May, 63% said gaining control of the border is more important than legalizing the status of undocumented workers already living in the United States, the highest level of support for border control since December 2011.

Men and those 40 and over are stronger supporters of building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border than women and younger voters are. But the groups are much closer to agreement when it comes to deporting illegal immigrants convicted of felonies in this country.

Sizable majorities in nearly all demographic categories favor deporting illegal immigrants convicted here of felony crimes.

But Democrats are less enthusiastic about such a policy than Republicans and voters not affiliated with either major party are. Only 30% of Democrats favor building a wall, compared to 57% of unaffiliated voters.

Whites voters are much stronger supporters of a wall on the southern U.S. border than black and other minority voters are.

Ninety-four percent (94%) of all voters who favor building a wall also support deportation of illegal immigrants convicted of a felony in this country. But even 65% of those who oppose a wall agree with such a policy.

Trump took a lot of criticism last month from Democrats and other Republican presidential hopefuls over his candid remarks about the criminality of many illegal immigrants, but most voters agree with Trump that illegal immigration increases serious crime in this country.

The reaction to his comments also increased media coverage of the murder of a young woman in San Francisco by an illegal immigrant from Mexico who said he came to that city because it does not enforce immigration laws. Most voters now want to get tough on so-called “sanctuary cities” that refuse to enforce these laws.

We noted in a commentary last month how the media spins the illegal immigration issue, comparing its coverage of Trump’s positions with those taken by leading Democratic contender Hillary Clinton.

Trump continues to lead the pack of Republican presidential candidates, but his support fell following the first GOP debate.  It will be interesting to see if his aggressive proposals for dealing with illegal immigration help or hurt him in the overall Republican race.



http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/august_2015/voters_want_to_build_a_wall_deport_felon_illegal_immigrants






Check out American history. Right from the beginnings of America holding interest in the Southwestern areas of the country, Mexican immigrants and Mexican migrant workers have been accepted within the United States, and encouraged to come at times.

Getting rid of Mexicans is going against tradition. Don't limit their entry. Rather, limit the welfare... right along with limiting the welfare to the rest of Americans.

Smiley

EDIT: Trump isn't any different. Obama gained popularity from offering welfare. Trump knows that if he stops the welfare, his popularity will decline. His answer is to get rid of part of the population that lives on welfare, rather than getting rid of the welfare itself.

Wake up. And I don't mean you, Wilikon. I mean anybody who doesn't see this simple point.
35469  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is ISIS Proof that Islam has Failed at Peace? on: August 19, 2015, 05:31:04 PM
Try to understand, most people want to have peace.

True written Islam teaches peace. But the only way it teaches REAL peace is when everyone becomes Muslim.

True Islam may teach temporary peace to non-Muslims, but it also teaches violence to non-Muslims.

If you want to be a true Muslim, if you want to truly be a follower of Islam, you need to be ready to do violence against every person who is not a Muslim. If you are not ready to do this, then you are a weak Muslim.

Is it good to be a weak Muslim? Yes! In fact, be a good person and get rid of Islam altogether. Many other religions teach peace without any of the violence that Islam teaches.

Smiley
35470  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: August 19, 2015, 02:13:26 PM
In like Flint. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Bxoar17FY - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzSMMs73pq0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWsL9HLi9XM

 Grin
35471  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sexuality on: August 19, 2015, 02:08:09 PM
It's all about Gay Rights.

Men have been legally trounced by women. Gay Rights is a way for them to stand up for themselves legally.

Since the men have been leaving the women alone in the ways where women have legal control, what else can the women do, but turn to Gay Rights just like the men?

Smiley
35472  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BREAKING: Obama Admin. Officials Convicted Of Voter Fraud In Obama Election on: August 19, 2015, 02:04:19 PM
Us americans - sometimes it is so sad that it gets funny Grin

Any1 of you remember bush junior?

Mostly, those of us who Google "Bush Nazi."

Smiley
35473  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BREAKING: Obama Admin. Officials Convicted Of Voter Fraud In Obama Election on: August 19, 2015, 02:02:31 PM
Since Obama really wasn't President, this means that none of his laws and Executive Actions have any effect. But do I have to give back all my welfare money that I received because of his welfare laws?

 Cheesy
35474  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: August 19, 2015, 01:36:57 PM
....
Lol i didn't mean Literally..Everyone is out for blood so i just threw it in there for the sharks.  I have watched the videos time and time again of the buildings coming down nice, neat and clean.  They do look like they were dropped on purpose. ....

I do agree, there was a controlling force that dropped them nice, neat and clean.

It's called gravity.

Yeah. Sure. Gravity did it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYTJAXdYlAM

Smiley
35475  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 19, 2015, 01:28:03 PM
For each person there is a God, for others it is in religion, for others it is a god for himself. But when the believers are trying to impose their point of view, it looks annoying.

This is such disturbing thinking both ways.

Nobody likes to be forced into anything, especially if it is something that he doesn't like.

On the other hand, there will probably be loads of people in Heaven who were forced at gun-point or something similar (sword-point), to believe in the salvation of Jesus or be executed.

Who will be happier in the long run? The one who went to Hell because nobody forced him to believe? Or the one who went to Heaven because he was forced to believe?

Smiley

You still believe in hell?


What does the bible say about hell? Is it being tortured for ever and ever? Would a kind God really do that?

This video shows why the idea of torturing people forever and ever is not the case with bible verses and discussion.

If Jesus died for our sins, He died for them by dying and being reborn. The wages of sin are death (not burning in fire forever and ever).

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Here's where you are missing it.

Certainly a kind God wouldn't do that. For example. Why do people only live barely to 100 years in this life? Certainly a kind God wouldn't do that.

Man was made in the image of God. Mankind has a certain something where God has placed eternity in his heart. Ecclesiastes 3:11:
Quote
He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end.
It's in man's heart. It isn't in his left hand. It isn't in one of his feet. It's in his heart.

God DOESN'T do it. Man does it. The fact that people only live 100 years if that, is not only the blessing of God - taking them out of this painful life - it is also the blessing of God not allowing them to foolishly and ignorantly accumulate more than a certain amount of sin debt that they will have to pay for if they happen to go the way of destruction.

The soul interprets destruction of the body as pain. The soul will interpret the destruction of itself as pain, as well. And when you have an eternal soul being destroyed, the pain will last for an eternity. "He has also set eternity in the hearts of men..."

Those who are being saved should not ponder on this too much. Such pondering weakens faith, and actually draws them toward Hell somewhat. That's why YOU don't easily recognize Hell. God is protecting you from it. But be assured. Those who go to Hell will, in themselves, receive an eternity of pain to the extent of their wrongdoing in this life, and of any intentional resistance against the salvation of Jesus.

Smiley
35476  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 19, 2015, 01:10:28 PM
Believers in disbelief, forcing it on others, there is no difference

Good point.

Nobody in America is forced to go to a religious school of a formal religion. At least not by government. But they are ALL forced to go to school in at least a public school, which teaches the religion of non-religion and belief in unbelief.

Smiley
35477  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go' on: August 19, 2015, 01:05:10 PM
I don't think that anyone who was NOT born here should be able to run for any public office. This Includes that Worthless president we have now.

Trump all the way.

On the other hand, some of the most wicked, cleverest a**h***s in the world come from here.

Smiley
35478  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is ISIS Proof that Islam has Failed at Peace? on: August 19, 2015, 12:59:26 PM
I don't think that ISIS represents the entirety of Muslims. If anything it serves as proof that there can be extremists in any religions. Now, to what extent they can justify their actions based on holy scriptures may vary from religion to religion.

No, it's the other way around.

Not all Muslims represent Islam, even though they say they do. To represent a religion, you have to do what that religion says. ISIS is doing a better job of it that most other Muslims do.

The problem is that most people don't really know what Islam is. Even most Muslims try to whitewash Islam because they are shocked at the violent side.

Either be the religion, or admit that you are weak. But don't try to make it into something that it is not - Islam = peace... NOT.

Smiley
35479  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Suicide on: August 19, 2015, 12:53:16 PM
Suicide is murder, even if it is only self-murder. "And you know that no murder has eternal life abiding in himself."

"Greater love has no man than to give up his life for his friends."

So, you see? Suicide with a valiant, honorable purpose may be right. But suicide for selfish, cowardly, and probably even illness reasons is wrong.

This life is short when compared with the way we can think. Eternal life is life with no end - the hereafter. Make your suicide choice wisely. You really don't want to spend eternity in Hell.

Smiley
35480  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: August 19, 2015, 08:35:54 AM
Conspiracy Theory about Tianjin explosion...

Video: China and America already at war: Tianjin explosion carried out by Pentagon space weapon

China and America already at war: Tianjin explosion carried out by Pentagon space weapon in retaliation for Yuan currency devaluation... Military helicopters now patrolling Beijing

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The Tianjin explosion was waged as an act of "kinetic retaliation" by the Pentagon in response to China's currency war Yuan devaluation, according to dissident sources from mainland China. The Chinese government has put in place unprecedented secrecy surrounding the mysterious explosion, and aggressive police state tactics are now being invoked to control the flow of information surrounding this event.

"Last week's explosions sent massive fireballs into the sky and hurled burning debris across the industrial area at the world's 10th-largest port, burning out buildings and shattering windows kilometres away," reports the Daily Mail UK.

The Chinese government's official explanation for the explosion, which has now killed 114 people, is a complete whitewash. China is going to declare regional martial law in the next 18 days, Natural News has learned, in order to exercise total control over the movement of people and information. The government has banned reporters from entering the area and has begun arresting bloggers who promote what the government calls "conspiracy theories" regarding the cause of the massive explosion.

China has blacked out reporting on Tianjin in exactly the same way the U.S. media blacked out reporting on Dr. William Thompson, the CDC whistleblower who admitted the CDC buried evidence linking vaccines to autism. In both China and the United States, when the government doesn't want the citizens to know something, it censors the story across the entire state-run media, invoking "information totalitarianism."

Both before and after the massive explosion, the Chinese government has been flying "black helicopters" in formation across Beijing. (Update: Previously, this article stated the helicopters began flying after the explosion, but we have been corrected on this point, as helicopters were witnessed in the sky in the days before the explosion as well.) Chinese dissidents took numerous photos of these helicopters and were able to deliver these exclusive pictures to Natural News:



A warning shot from the United States: Don't crash the dollar or sell our debt
Chinese dissidents have told Natural News they have reason to believe the attack on Tianjin is a warning shot from the United States, which is terrified that China is on the verge of announcing its own gold-backed currency while declaring a fire sale on U.S. debt holdings.

The actions would collapse the U.S. dollar and destroy the U.S. economy, sending the United States into economic freefall. The "Rod of God" weapon deployment by the U.S. Pentagon, we're told, was America's "shot across the bow" to send a powerful warning message to China while disguising the attack as a domestic chemical explosion.

Timeline of events: China devalues currency, then Pentagon strikes in mere hours
Consider the calendar of events in all this:

August 11, 2015: China devalues the Yuan by 1.9%, sending "shockwaves" around the world and setting off a "devastating" impact to the U.S. economy.

August 12, 2015: Tianjin struck by Pentagon's secret "Rod of God" weapon, a space-based top-secret kinetic weapon that can be dropped from high orbit to strike almost any land-based target. The weapon instantly destroys six city blocks on the edge of the city of Tianjin, sending a message to China that's eerily similar to the message sent by the United States in the dropping of the world's first atomic weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II. (Yes, the USA is willing to drop weapons of mass destruction on civilian populations. It has already done it twice!)

(For those following the Shemitah, the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan also occurred during a Shemitah year, in the month of august, 1945, exactly 70 years ago. This is precisely TEN Shemitah cycles ago, or what might be called a "deca-Shemitah.")

August 16, 2015: Obama issues stern warning "...about the presence of Chinese government agents operating secretly in the United States," reports The New York Times. "And it comes at a time of growing tension between Washington and Beijing on a number of issues: from the computer theft of millions of government personnel files that American officials suspect was directed by China, to China's crackdown on civil liberties, to the devaluation of its currency."

The Pentagon's secret space-based weapons
The "Rod of God" weapon consists primarily of a kinetic weapon arriving with unimaginable kinetic energy... more than a small tactical nuclear weapon, in fact, giving it the appearance of a tactical nuke.

U.S. websites are now speculating that the Tianjin explosion was a U.S. space-based weapons test involving a "Rod of God" weapon dropped from orbit. "The [resulting] lake [crater] in China proves a 5 kiloton blast, possibly nuclear or possibly from a space based 'rod from God' (pictured to the left) weapon [was] deployed by the space plane," says The Unhived Mind.



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Any nation like the U.S. that has this kind of power, certainly has the power to protect the Twin Towers, or to bring them down. 9/11 was an inside job.

Smiley

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