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3561  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: January 20, 2016, 07:39:23 AM
What all this obviously means is that no, cloud mining operations arenīt selling you hash out of the goodness of their hearts, youīre in effect financing their mining equipment. Itīs a great deal for them because very few people actually make any money out of this (get back money loaned) except of course the referral shills that convince people to join these largely hopeless deals. They get their commission for the victims provided.

This is true but I ve seen people making money on cloud mining operations which allow hash trading. I am one of these people. The other option s constant reinvesting large chunck of your payouts which does signficanlty prolong ROI time. Is all this worth that trouble?

I sincerely do not know anymore.

What s become a reality is that making money in crypto s become extremely hard due to harsh competition. Good old easy day are behind us.
3562  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptsy Hacker identity incoming - pending bounty on: January 20, 2016, 07:36:32 AM
Well, this is great way at least to prove that Big Vern s been honest about the hack. If he doesn't at least reply to this initiative, well, then it s obvious everything s been a BS.
3563  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: January 20, 2016, 07:34:31 AM
Trade seems to be quite interesting recently. Lots of new and fancy coins re going up and letting people make a lot of money. ETH, NEM, FCT, all have significant potential. I think people should start paying attention on that.
3564  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if there is nomore coins to mine? on: January 20, 2016, 07:30:45 AM
I m more worried regarding the fact what happens if BTC halves and the price does not go up 2x. This means lots of farms will be become instantly unprofitable, stop mining, the diff will crumble and what then?
3565  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: January 19, 2016, 03:44:01 PM
earning from s7 was decreased significantly in these days, can anyone explain the reason?


Uhm...maybe difficulty growth and BTC price decrease? Have you considered those?
3566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: January 19, 2016, 01:48:19 PM
Everything works like a Swiss clock, both PoS and PoW blocks found, no glitches, business of gathering Diamonds as usual.
3567  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: January 19, 2016, 11:28:53 AM
tell me how much you want growing your bitcoin and I tell you if I can do it for you...


WOW! you are a hustler now in growing your bitcoins if you can do that? and what methods of growing it will you apply?

I want to grow mine in 1 BTC will you make my bitcoin increase to that? hehe

I think the bottom line here is to invest in his investment system which faucets pays much better than his. Peace! Tongue

Faucets are useless, I ve said that many times. Nobody has ever made anything meaningful from faucets.
3568  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: January 19, 2016, 10:05:46 AM
Earn as much as I can by doing trade, collecting some cents from the profit I takes from trade.

This is where I agree. You need to do your best but I mean absolutely best to earn every satoshi now, before halving. Cause once BTC goes over $1k and there s a pretty big change it will during this year, making 0.01 BTC s not gonna be that easy as it is now.
3569  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com - Cloud Mining Service on: January 19, 2016, 09:50:29 AM
is there any chance to sell my kh/s? and what will be selling price and fee?
No you only can get a refund of your investment. I would prefer bitcoin over the graphics cards way. You have to contact support for that.

What graphic cards? What you re taking about? How are they gonna send you graphic cards WHEN THEY OBVIOUSLY DO NOT MINE at all.
3570  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make 17 BTC out of 7 BTC ? on: January 19, 2016, 08:28:12 AM
I d suggest you hold to your 7 BTC and invest those into safer but more moderate projects. You can easily get 25% a year and stay safe. Anything above that s a big time risk.
3571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | NEW wallet, 50% POS Active on: January 19, 2016, 08:26:01 AM
300 DMD until the halving.

I think the era of cheap diamonds has come to an end.

Community, thx for being so great, we ll bring this coin to 1$ together.
3572  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitcoin Cloud Mining with HashFlare on: January 19, 2016, 08:16:12 AM
Hi guys,

Sorry for delay.

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What about that idea of trading hash?This is what made Hashnest one of the greatest, what about you guys?
-->> this may be way to long for then to make it as no other company do this ... yes that why Hashnest is good ..

I know you have this planned, any ETA on this?
-->> have you got any news or any update on this because i can't see any place where its mention that
Unfortunately we are unable to provide a working system which allows inter-user hashrate transfers yet. Currently our powers are aimed towards the improving of current system functionality. We are also working on establishment of a new data center which will allow us to offer a more efficient service (for instance, we want to lower the commission fees). If you are willing to sell your hashrate to any other user, please contact our technical support as they will be able to manually help with that.

That s a step in the right direction. However, trading hash would represent a nice source of income for you guys as well so I d suggest you have a look at that.
Still, keep up the good work.
3573  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com - Cloud Mining Service on: January 19, 2016, 08:10:41 AM
is this profitable investing in this cloud mining company ..??
It is profitable if they don't scam you like many others did. It's a very short roi for cloud mining. You might want to give it a try. If you take the free 15kh/s and then buy 20kh/s your roi is about three months. Then you can invest more if you are satisified.

Great to heard it ..is there any proof of they make payment to there user ?? ..because i can't find it

My last 3 payouts:
https://blockchain.info/tx/931f025957938c55919fd865e61d8cb2513e4dd43fc68c76f9fd9b912c562205
https://blockchain.info/tx/d9ce97c0e4c0418933e9a1cba6c9cfb47552ee02bced54d061829e62eb8232d7
https://blockchain.info/tx/64b2dd3284d833d0e747e761dd1d7330d7b37ea0d5639dd3234641d1894ef58d

This is my hashocean address: https://blockchain.info/address/18FhVxiGPaQxfBBhRCqMenNAqzAzAA6kRe

There you can see everything i got from them. It's working fine so far.
No it is not working fine. Hashocean don't send any graphic cards. As they say the delivery takes up to 59 days. Its more than 10 weeks gone after my 700mhs stopped and still no videocard. No answer from support. And yes, they're paying, by now at least.

Sorry? Send what? Why? From where? To whom?

U cant be that naive. It s simply not possible.
I wish i had such sense of scam as you do about a year ago when I started with Bitcoin and Hashocean. You seem to be a millionaire with that prophetic vision. Are you?

I m not a prophet, I just rely on common sense.

Let me explain this to you.


Bitmain, the largest producer of ASIC machines which runs and operates their cloud service and their cloud mining pool (so they have all resources in house) cannot come even close to 1 year ROI if you buy their contracts. These people re legit, 100%, photos, mining addresses and everything. So these people are what you compare you investment to, a landmark.

Then, you have these Hashocean people, came out of nowhere, no photos, no verifiable info, no mining addresses and no EXPLANATION how they manage to deliver 3 months ROI which cannot be replicated in home mining conditions, NOT EVEN CLOSE to that.

If you do try to contact them ask how is this possible, you ll get no useful and verifiable explanation for that.

So, after doing this "expert" analysis, do they seem legit or not to you?
3574  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: January 19, 2016, 07:43:22 AM
I d like to see more people actively using their BTC for purchases, investments, whatever and not simply holding.

Cause if we all hold, there ll be no growth of crypto economy and how is BTC price going to go up then?

I m not talking about artificial growth, pump and dump, but real growth, based on increase of user base and services.
3575  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: best way to convert altcoins to btc? on: January 19, 2016, 07:34:20 AM
Poloniex or Bittrex. But dont dump your coins, leave them at a specific price and be patient for people to buy those.

Cause of the lack of their patience, people lose a lot of money this way.

Finally, playing faucets s not really profitable at all, I suggest you invest you time and energy in a more productive manner.
3576  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Paul Vernon take a lie detector test? on: January 18, 2016, 07:19:35 PM
Forgive him? Who cares about forgiveness, how are they going to cough up 10k BTC to continue operating?
3577  Economy / Lending / Re: Looking to borrow $50 worth of BTC. on: January 18, 2016, 07:17:08 PM
This is not going to work unless you produce at least 75 BTC collateral which I seriously doubt you have. So I suggest u start with something, much, much smaller.
3578  Economy / Securities / Re: How much interest is reasonable for you? on: January 18, 2016, 07:13:39 PM
For me the range will be between 1-7 % monthly ,  and i think i can take 1 % if there is a full grantuee of a safe return.
Also it depends on the actual price of BTC at the time of giving & Return.

Compare Crypto returns to returns from any other industry and u ll see that Crypto triumphs everywhere. So, anything around 5% a month is really, really awesome result.
3579  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: January 18, 2016, 07:11:47 PM
When I went there, we went to two buildings that Hydro66 own. Tommy hosts his miners with them.
One was their original building where Mining Swedens, miners were at the time. Infact the pictures that Mining Sweden posts on the web are from that same building.
I was met also by a representative of Hydro66 and he asked respectfully that as there were other miners from other companies in the same building not to take pictures incase they included other companies miners in the pictures as well and I can understand their position on that.

I did not mind personally as the pictures that Tommy have already posted were basically just the same as what I saw in the building.

We then went to their new facility which was still being built at the time, which is now finished. We were shown around. Again the hydro66 representative asked for confidentiality reasons not to take pics. If you are being showed around a building, someones private property and they are asking you not to take pics then normally I do not.

On their website now they have pictures of that facility but then it is their discretion on what is allowed or not. Their choice on what to post or not to post.
It is their building, their private property so I respect that.

Okay. I sent an email to Bitmain for validating your statement that Mining Sweden is their customer.
Waiting for their response.

I recently saw their news section (https://www.miningsweden.se/news/) and noticed this video posted. (https://vimeo.com/119996241)
But I do not think they were mining with Spondoolies SP20.
Please clarify if you think I am wrong.

Yes, there were one of their first miners, SP20, long time ago when they started. That s an old video.
3580  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: January 18, 2016, 07:09:28 PM
I got it from the shop. And, like some guys told me on here when I asked that same question that it is really up to you whether you think it is worth it or not.

I personally like the PACMiC v2 contract because I didn't purchase them expecting too much. Just small interest (14% really isn't small when compared to a bank)on some bitcoin holdings.  And, with bitcoin prices looking a little healthier recently I have no problem leaving the auto-buy feature enabled which prolongs my principal payback, but allows it to grow slightly more.

If u do leave autobuy on, this means u buy more contracts. How do make money on it then? Instead of payouts, u get more shares.
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