...don't think there is an outstanding design in the submissions.
+1. I don't think it's a good idea to design a logo without first creating a brand identity and narrative. its 2014 only way to make a logo is make a bounty and whack it up at http://99designs.com/get the professionals to compete... i think solid and cryptodruti are at 99designs level, they just haven't put it in 3d or iron or something. but the arrangement is great Guys, is this not a cart-before-the-horse scenario? Getting a logo hastily and without a cohesive brand strategy will just come across as patchy and unprofessional. don't overthink this, its a cryptocurrency with a bad logo and it needs a nice new one , thats it, the brandof xc is beeing best in fundamentals and beeing visionary in new features imo, the logo just needs to look cool in webshops, ranking sites and merch. and it just needs to be up to standard I'm all for a bare-bones approach. Totally. What I mean though is that the role of branding, PR etc. is to clearly communicate the fundamentals. I'm sure you'd agree that they've been mostly obscured by FUD lately. We need good communication, and it's not hard to do properly. (In fact I've suggested to the Dev that I take it on.) I agree, There’s a lot of talk about how to get XC noticed by more people and a lot of suggestions have come by on the forum. But we should have a more strategic approach to this. Suggestion 1: Coordinate all external communication Everybody telling the same story helps the rule of repetition (communication is most effective when it is repeatedly brought to the attention of our target market) Suggestion 2 Anticipate on possible reations Before dev. makes a new announcement, lets think over the possible reactions from our target market and write possible responses to those reactions. Suggestion 3: Make a (short)list of possible comm. channels. Formulate what we want to tell about XC on each channel. Write pressreleases /flashmessages +1. I'm all for this. And it's gotta be done pretty professionally if we're to avoid drowning in FUD again. Maintaining a frank and current list of challenges is critical. That way, we're the first to say what isn't implemented yet, and why. This is how we build trust, through clarity and honesty. This requires proper coordination between Dev(team) and comm.team and should (preferably) be done in a secure environment. Yeah, it's strategic so it'll need a fair bit of discussing, regularly. But in the name of being candid and honest I'm not that concerned about the secure environment. Hell, let anyone see what's discussed. We'll have little to nothing to hide. We should definitely be honest and candid about the product. I just fear that open discussions about strategic comm. lead to nothing concrete. Yeah, definitely. I mean closed for efficiency, but if they're publically viewable it wouldn't be an issue. |
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...don't think there is an outstanding design in the submissions.
+1. I don't think it's a good idea to design a logo without first creating a brand identity and narrative. its 2014 only way to make a logo is make a bounty and whack it up at http://99designs.com/get the professionals to compete... i think solid and cryptodruti are at 99designs level, they just haven't put it in 3d or iron or something. but the arrangement is great Guys, is this not a cart-before-the-horse scenario? Getting a logo hastily and without a cohesive brand strategy will just come across as patchy and unprofessional. don't overthink this, its a cryptocurrency with a bad logo and it needs a nice new one , thats it, the brandof xc is beeing best in fundamentals and beeing visionary in new features imo, the logo just needs to look cool in webshops, ranking sites and merch. and it just needs to be up to standard I'm all for a bare-bones approach. Totally. What I mean though is that the role of branding, PR etc. is to clearly communicate the fundamentals. I'm sure you'd agree that they've been mostly obscured by FUD lately. We need good communication, and it's not hard to do properly. (In fact I've suggested to the Dev that I take it on.) I agree, There’s a lot of talk about how to get XC noticed by more people and a lot of suggestions have come by on the forum. But we should have a more strategic approach to this. Suggestion 1: Coordinate all external communication Everybody telling the same story helps the rule of repetition (communication is most effective when it is repeatedly brought to the attention of our target market) Suggestion 2 Anticipate on possible reations Before dev. makes a new announcement, lets think over the possible reactions from our target market and write possible responses to those reactions. Suggestion 3: Make a (short)list of possible comm. channels. Formulate what we want to tell about XC on each channel. Write pressreleases /flashmessages +1. I'm all for this. And it's gotta be done pretty professionally if we're to avoid drowning in FUD again. Maintaining a frank and current list of challenges is critical. That way, we're the first to say what isn't implemented yet, and why. This is how we build trust, through clarity and honesty. This requires proper coordination between Dev(team) and comm.team and should (preferably) be done in a secure environment. Yeah, it's strategic so it'll need a fair bit of discussing, regularly. But in the name of being candid and honest I'm not that concerned about the secure environment. Hell, let anyone see what's discussed. We'll have little to nothing to hide. |
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...don't think there is an outstanding design in the submissions.
+1. I don't think it's a good idea to design a logo without first creating a brand identity and narrative. its 2014 only way to make a logo is make a bounty and whack it up at http://99designs.com/get the professionals to compete... i think solid and cryptodruti are at 99designs level, they just haven't put it in 3d or iron or something. but the arrangement is great Guys, is this not a cart-before-the-horse scenario? Getting a logo hastily and without a cohesive brand strategy will just come across as patchy and unprofessional. don't overthink this, its a cryptocurrency with a bad logo and it needs a nice new one , thats it, the brandof xc is beeing best in fundamentals and beeing visionary in new features imo, the logo just needs to look cool in webshops, ranking sites and merch. and it just needs to be up to standard I'm all for a bare-bones approach. Totally. What I mean though is that the role of branding, PR etc. is to clearly communicate the fundamentals. I'm sure you'd agree that they've been mostly obscured by FUD lately. We need good communication, and it's not hard to do properly. (In fact I've suggested to the Dev that I take it on.) Check my posts, me and some other guys have been begging for a professional approach to the brand identity so many times. I just gave up. I m holding because of dev, but the PR has been a total desaster and there is no willing to change it so far. It s just sad to see such great developement with such a shoddy marketing. Hope that changes soon. There is no real winner in this logocontest for me too. I have hope. Yesterday the dev posted something asking about ways of co-ordinating the community to get things done. It wasn't specifically concerned with branding or PR, but after the past two weeks I doubt anyone hasn't realised how important it is to get this stuff right. |
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...don't think there is an outstanding design in the submissions.
+1. I don't think it's a good idea to design a logo without first creating a brand identity and narrative. its 2014 only way to make a logo is make a bounty and whack it up at http://99designs.com/get the professionals to compete... i think solid and cryptodruti are at 99designs level, they just haven't put it in 3d or iron or something. but the arrangement is great Guys, is this not a cart-before-the-horse scenario? Getting a logo hastily and without a cohesive brand strategy will just come across as patchy and unprofessional. don't overthink this, its a cryptocurrency with a bad logo and it needs a nice new one , thats it, the brandof xc is beeing best in fundamentals and beeing visionary in new features imo, the logo just needs to look cool in webshops, ranking sites and merch. and it just needs to be up to standard I'm all for a bare-bones approach. Totally. What I mean though is that the role of branding, PR etc. is to clearly communicate the fundamentals. I'm sure you'd agree that they've been mostly obscured by FUD lately. We need good communication, and it's not hard to do properly. (In fact I've suggested to the Dev that I take it on.) I agree, There’s a lot of talk about how to get XC noticed by more people and a lot of suggestions have come by on the forum. But we should have a more strategic approach to this. Suggestion 1: Coordinate all external communication Everybody telling the same story helps the rule of repetition (communication is most effective when it is repeatedly brought to the attention of our target market) Suggestion 2 Anticipate on possible reations Before dev. makes a new announcement, lets think over the possible reactions from our target market and write possible responses to those reactions. Suggestion 3: Make a (short)list of possible comm. channels. Formulate what we want to tell about XC on each channel. Write pressreleases /flashmessages +1. I'm all for this. And it's gotta be done pretty professionally if we're to avoid drowning in FUD again. Maintaining a frank and current list of challenges is critical. That way, we're the first to say what isn't implemented yet, and why. This is how we build trust, through clarity and honesty. |
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...don't think there is an outstanding design in the submissions.
+1. I don't think it's a good idea to design a logo without first creating a brand identity and narrative. its 2014 only way to make a logo is make a bounty and whack it up at http://99designs.com/get the professionals to compete... i think solid and cryptodruti are at 99designs level, they just haven't put it in 3d or iron or something. but the arrangement is great Guys, is this not a cart-before-the-horse scenario? Getting a logo hastily and without a cohesive brand strategy will just come across as patchy and unprofessional. don't overthink this, its a cryptocurrency with a bad logo and it needs a nice new one , thats it, the brandof xc is beeing best in fundamentals and beeing visionary in new features imo, the logo just needs to look cool in webshops, ranking sites and merch. and it just needs to be up to standard I'm all for a bare-bones approach. Totally. What I mean though is that the role of branding, PR etc. is to clearly communicate the fundamentals. I'm sure you'd agree that they've been mostly obscured by FUD lately. We need good communication, and it's not hard to do properly. (In fact I've suggested to the Dev that I take it on.) I agree, There’s a lot of talk about how to get XC noticed by more people and a lot of suggestions have come by on the forum. But we should have a more strategic approach to this. Suggestion 1: Coordinate all external communication Everybody telling the same story helps the rule of repetition (communication is most effective when it is repeatedly brought to the attention of our target market) Suggestion 2 Anticipate on possible reations Before dev. makes a new announcement, lets think over the possible reactions from our target market and write possible responses to those reactions. Suggestion 3: Make a (short)list of possible comm. channels. Formulate what we want to tell about XC on each channel. Write pressreleases /flashmessages +1. I'm all for this. And it's gotta be done pretty professionally if we're to avoid drowning in FUD again. |
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...don't think there is an outstanding design in the submissions.
+1. I don't think it's a good idea to design a logo without first creating a brand identity and narrative. its 2014 only way to make a logo is make a bounty and whack it up at http://99designs.com/get the professionals to compete... i think solid and cryptodruti are at 99designs level, they just haven't put it in 3d or iron or something. but the arrangement is great Guys, is this not a cart-before-the-horse scenario? Getting a logo hastily and without a cohesive brand strategy will just come across as patchy and unprofessional. don't overthink this, its a cryptocurrency with a bad logo and it needs a nice new one , thats it, the brandof xc is beeing best in fundamentals and beeing visionary in new features imo, the logo just needs to look cool in webshops, ranking sites and merch. and it just needs to be up to standard I'm all for a bare-bones approach. Totally. What I mean though is that the role of branding, PR etc. is to clearly communicate the fundamentals. I'm sure you'd agree that they've been mostly obscured by FUD lately. We need good communication, and it's not hard to do properly. (In fact I've suggested to the Dev that I take it on.) |
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...don't think there is an outstanding design in the submissions.
+1. I don't think it's a good idea to design a logo without first creating a brand identity and narrative. its 2014 only way to make a logo is make a bounty and whack it up at http://99designs.com/get the professionals to compete... Agree. Sorry but all the logos in the contest are not very good at all. But if I have to choose, the last one is best IMO contest must go to to the end and winner needs to take his prize. we can add a proffesional logo later when other serios things are solved with this coin. for now this is good. Fair point. That's pragmatic too. |
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...don't think there is an outstanding design in the submissions.
+1. I don't think it's a good idea to design a logo without first creating a brand identity and narrative. its 2014 only way to make a logo is make a bounty and whack it up at http://99designs.com/get the professionals to compete... i think solid and cryptodruti are at 99designs level, they just haven't put it in 3d or iron or something. but the arrangement is great Guys, is this not a cart-before-the-horse scenario? Getting a logo hastily and without a cohesive brand strategy will just come across as patchy and unprofessional. - and we may well want to change it later as a result. I'd say suspend the competition, approach the brand/marketing/PR properly, and then get some designs done (by the community if we like) according to a brief. |
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...don't think there is an outstanding design in the submissions.
+1. I don't think it's a good idea to design a logo without first creating a brand identity and narrative. its 2014 only way to make a logo is make a bounty and whack it up at http://99designs.com/get the professionals to compete... i think solid and cryptodruti are at 99designs level, they just haven't put it in 3d or iron or something. but the arrangement is great Guys, is this not a cart-before-the-horse scenario? Getting a logo hastily and without a cohesive brand strategy will just come across as patchy and unprofessional. |
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...don't think there is an outstanding design in the submissions.
+1. I don't think it's a good idea to design a logo without first creating a brand identity and narrative. |
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I think we found the bottom. Buy support is showing up.  At this momment it takes only 5BTC to jump back to 110... (18% rise for 5 BTC... it ain´t much  ) +1. This is good. It's gapped it above the previous 15 minute candle body too. Very good so far. |
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I think we found the bottom. Buy support is showing up. At this momment it takes only 5BTC to jump back to 110... (18% rise for 5 BTC... it ain´t much ) +1. This is good. |
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WTF is going on man, this is not funny anymore. I am still holding but it really looks like this ship is going down
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Nah, in all likelihood it's just the usual failed first attempt to break resistance (in this case, the trendline down). Happens in a bull rally all the time. |
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1. 24 Hour volume on MINTPAL is around 1500 BTC 2. Lets say 2/3 (1000 BTC ) of that volume is constantly sitting on MINTPAL (or Cryptsy ) WALLETS 3. Based on some calculations ( logarithmic scale stalking 0-30 days 3.33%) you can take about 1/10 of that volume is constantly producing COINS IN MINTPALs and Cryptsy-is WALLETS 4. Lets say (based on calculations) 100 BTC of XC producing 3.33% coins EVERY FUCKING DAY (and I'm sure that I'm being gentle with that calculation). 5 3.33% of approx. 100 BTC is roughly 3.33 BTC of XC ....every fucking day you donate 3.33 BTC to MINTPAL and the don't even say THANK YOU MORONS.... in ten days that is 33.3 BTC of XC - not bad - what do you think ?... Just withdraw your XC from exchanges and you will see how price of XC goes UP - significantly They selling you your own coins guys and you dont see that ? Mintpal disabled stake you xyz they said they did...but did they? you going to trust them? It's not like you cannot check if their wallets are staking in the block explorer. http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich What a bunch of brain washed tin foiled kids reside in this thread! People, to avoid being flaky conspiracy theorists, when formulating a hypothesis consider the following two aspects independently of each other: - the grounds upon which your hypothesis might be true. - the grounds upon which your hypothesis might be false. And make an effort to establish reliable grounds, for heaven's sake. I mean, it's hard enough to avoid being fooled by other people in crypto. If you can't even avoid fooling yourself then you're a proper sucker. |
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1. 24 Hour volume on MINTPAL is around 1500 BTC 2. Lets say 2/3 (1000 BTC ) of that volume is constantly sitting on MINTPAL (or Cryptsy ) WALLETS 3. Based on some calculations ( logarithmic scale stalking 0-30 days 3.33%) you can take about 1/10 of that volume is constantly producing COINS IN MINTPALs and Cryptsy-is WALLETS 4. Lets say (based on calculations) 100 BTC of XC producing 3.33% coins EVERY FUCKING DAY (and I'm sure that I'm being gentle with that calculation). 5 3.33% of approx. 100 BTC is roughly 3.33 BTC of XC ....every fucking day you donate 3.33 BTC to MINTPAL and the don't even say THANK YOU MORONS.... in ten days that is 33.3 BTC of XC - not bad - what do you think ?... Just withdraw your XC from exchanges and you will see how price of XC goes UP - significantly They selling you your own coins guys and you dont see that ? Mintpal disabled stake you xyz they said they did...but did they? you going to trust them? It's not like you cannot check if their wallets are staking in the block explorer. http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich What a bunch of brain washed tin foiled kids reside in this thread! People, to avoid being flaky conspiracy theorists, when formulating a hypothesis consider the following two aspects independently of each other: - the grounds upon which your hypothesis might be true. - the grounds upon which your hypothesis might be false. And make an effort to establish reliable grounds, for heaven's sake. |
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While all this FUD is going on I think ill remind you all why you are here.
1) XC has the best Dev in the Alt-Currency community fullstop. Check out his LinkedIn profile, this isn't up for debate.
2) XC has the best plan for anonymous technology, and probably the only Dev who could pull it off
3) XC is getting updated pretty much every other day, its moving at a faster pace than nearly any other coin
4) XC isn't just a currency, they are building an entire fucking platform.
5) XC still hasn't been noticed yet by the media
6) XC is hugely undervalued.
Let me just elaborate on number 6 for you guys, what you saw today was a crash that was inevitable. I've explained it before check out those posts. What's coming next is the revival, this is also inevitable. You don't go down like we just did without news without shooting back up.
Anyways. I've got my cheap coins, ill be back in two weeks to collect their value.
See you then.
Cheers.
+1. And thanks for the advice. Solid stuff. |
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Guys I've said it before and ill say it again. The slower the crash, the harder a recovery is. Things are starting to look rather bleak.
Man, when you said "slow" you really meant it. I come back from a sleep and the market might as well have gone sideways. Are your buy orders still in or will you wait this out to see when a bull run commences? Yea buy orders 'were' still in. Had a nap and just noticed the last one @ 0.001083 got filled, which is nice. I see all the FUDsters came out in strength. Now just to wait for the recovery, which if I've timed it correctly, should be any minute now Pretty sure we just need to touch that little 0.001 number once or twice and liftoff should commence momentarily after, lets see what happens. Exciting stuff. Indeed. I'm glad it's accelerated down to the mark. Let's see what happens. I'm not convinced the recovery will be anything special. I'll be ready to scalp and re-buy at ~0.00075 if necessary. Likely reversal on 161.8% Fib mark, which is just under the psychologically important 0.001. This is good. |
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Guys I've said it before and ill say it again. The slower the crash, the harder a recovery is. Things are starting to look rather bleak.
Man, when you said "slow" you really meant it. I come back from a sleep and the market might as well have gone sideways. Are your buy orders still in or will you wait this out to see when a bull run commences? Yea buy orders 'were' still in. Had a nap and just noticed the last one @ 0.001083 got filled, which is nice. I see all the FUDsters came out in strength. Now just to wait for the recovery, which if I've timed it correctly, should be any minute now Pretty sure we just need to touch that little 0.001 number once or twice and liftoff should commence momentarily after, lets see what happens. Exciting stuff. Indeed. I'm glad it's accelerated down to the mark. Let's see what happens. I'm not convinced the recovery will be anything special. I'll be ready to scalp and re-buy at ~0.00075 if necessary. |
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Guys I've said it before and ill say it again. The slower the crash, the harder a recovery is. Things are starting to look rather bleak.
Man, when you said "slow" you really meant it. I come back from a sleep and the market might as well have gone sideways. Are your buy orders still in or will you wait this out to see when a bull run commences? Yea buy orders 'were' still in. Had a nap and just noticed the last one @ 0.001083 got filled, which is nice. I see all the FUDsters came out in strength. Now just to wait for the recovery, which if I've timed it correctly, should be any minute now Pretty sure we just need to touch that little 0.001 number once or twice and liftoff should commence momentarily after, lets see what happens. Exciting stuff. Indeed. I'm glad it's accelerated down to the mark. Let's see what happens. |
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Clear well written and detailed information on the website would help with the FUD...
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