Don't worry Puerto you will eventually get your Avalon once they start building them.
Now they have the funds from batch #2 to pay for them it shouldn't be too long now..........
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You sound slightly uncivil. Wait riling up your nerves? Have a coke, relax. Yep, what greyhawk says. @ BFL posse <Sip> yep, buy some coke and get over it. As you can see the Yes, Men clown posse has shown up. Lets see, There is Poon-Tang: The guy who thinks on the BFL forums that any customers who ask about when they will receive their produce = a bunch of trolls. Not a hardcore fanboi but close. SloK, needs zero introduction: Total Fanboi with BFL. Insults anyone who asks questions both on and off the BFL forum. Sterigum, I don't know too much about him but tends to favor BFL in the few posts that he does endeavor to type. etc. It's like someone ordered them to line up against a wall on command to form a unified front of objectionable stupidity. ---------------- To fill in the clueless posse I used to be an amateur investigator.My Google-fu is pretty weak. If you didn't know that you could pull up that information from publicly available resources....well that is pretty sad. There's nothing to worry about. Everything's cool. No reasons to get all up in arms. It's not like, say, moderators are deleting posts of BFL customers asking where their ordered product is and... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145479.0.... oh.... oh dear...  <Shrug> |
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@puertolibre a personal question. even though i am a bfl customer and dont even know if i receive a paid (09/2012)product this year ( it sucks , yes i know it ...) , havent YOU got tired of all this? I mean all the mocking and all of the endless arguing with that unbelievable person (i have worst worst for it but maybe another time) ... I have long been tired of it. I only come on these days to read up on Avalon and when I will receive mine. I only sporadically post in the BFL threads anymore. I don't think anyone does actually. To be very honest it is very boring these days. I don't see the point (anymore) in arguing with said person. Considering your ignore button is becoming even more yellowish that the day before. I actually cannot see it. I use one of the default skins of the forum (the ugly one). In that skin the forum's ignore picture is broken. So I am unaware of what the color of it is. In either case, I don't believe the ignore button is very effective as other people will quote my text and it'll appear one way or the other. I also see that the Bitcoin community is very loose on friendships so there isn't much point to building up knowledge of who is for what. I work on my computer at different times of the day and have multiple monitors to track different business. So when I get around to it, I leave one window open and that's how I notice the "going on's". Like I mentioned before, the other turd is not interesting anymore. Avalons shipping is seemingly gonna take a while so there is not really much to check up on. Even i dont know if bfl is running for the hills or they have their chips soaking in unicorn blood ( pfff some people's arrogance is annoying) , but i am sicked of this situation.
Most of the time i dont want to read about it , much less to comment on it.
I remember that you were an avalon customer. Arent you a bit dissapointed of how you are being treated? Is this your way of venting?
I am bothered by it. Frankly I just want my Avalon to arrive so I can stop checking the forum every day. Thats what gets me into "fights" with the other turd. If you check my recent posting I barely bother with the come backs anymore. It just seems like a waste of time these days. ------------------ Beyond that, I probably know just slightly more than the average Avalon customer. (perhaps not?) So that keeps my temperament/venting in check as I keep checking for updates at different times of day and night. I expect the units will be arriving soon as the Customs backlog clears. As for BFL, no one needs to pound the sand in their corner anymore. They seem to create a crater all on their own at every turn. If the chips fail to pass the test, it is "game over" as is said. |
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I thought Jody's "you'll get your units by June" post sounded a bit testy. No matter how overwhelmed customer service is right now, she's the General Manager and her comments should be calm and reassuring. The order management software, the updated shipping options, the shipping cartons all should have been in place already because they were supposed to start shipping this week.
What kind of clusterfuck would it have been if the assembled units had arrived at BFL this week and the order management software and updated shipping options weren't online and no-one had been told to send back their FPGAs? While they may be dependent on outside contractors for the technical stuff, there's no excuse for their internal administrative stuff not being ready to go.
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That's wrong. In order to arrive back here on 23 February Australian time, he'd have to leave the US either late Friday night or early Saturday morning our time at the latest (it's a really long flight). If he was to leave the US midnight Friday our time, that's less than 54 hours away. What date and time should I set it too? I thought the tickets were for the moment you leave to get on the plane and not when you arrive? Could you clarify? |
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What are you talking about, you said it yourself in the log! Literally, moments ago. Edit: And yes, your timeline is shifting. You mentioned/implied that in your chat log.  This is what one of your customers posted on the BFL forum. It looks to me like you and he are both in agreement on the shipping starting closer to the end of Feb. Link: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/1034-february-14th-2012-update-discussion-thread-5.html#post15077Edit: Posted under the FAIR USE ACT for the purposes of education and discussion.Don't cry wolf so many times because eventually people will stop believing you. |
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[12:02 AM] _X_ : avalon and asicminer have units out
[12:02 AM] BFL_Josh : I'm not going to tell you bad news. I just don't have any solid information at the moment.
[12:03 AM] Fuzzy : I hope Josh's news isn't another delay...
[12:03 AM] polrpaul : bah
[12:03 AM] _X_ : :/
[12:03 AM] SuperTaranta : Josh, may i ask a simple question.
[12:03 AM] Fuzzy : That's ok, solid info is over-rated
[12:03 AM] BFL_Josh : Sure
[12:03 AM] Fuzzy : Just give us something juicy to tide us over....
[12:04 AM] Luke-Jr : ASICMINER doesn't sell units yet
[12:04 AM] BFL_Josh : I don't have anything juicy or otherwise.
[12:04 AM] SuperTaranta : Why take pre orders so early? Why not start taking them when the product is tested and ready, yes I
understand that that you require money to get everything done, but wouldnt Kickstarter be a better option? For a much Smoother
transaction?
[12:04 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : hmm.... photos?
[12:04 AM] Fuzzy : Something with killer robots, and aliens if possible
[12:04 AM] Luke-Jr : Hey Inaba
[12:04 AM] Bogart : Why aren't you at the bumping facility looking over their shoulders?
[12:04 AM] BFL_Josh : That is not a simple question.
[12:04 AM] BFL_Josh : Hi Luke
[12:04 AM] Bogart : Like with the fab
[12:05 AM] SuperTaranta : Its not a difficult question either.
[12:05 AM] BFL_Josh : @Bogart: I was just discussing that with people tonight. We are going to finish that disucssion tomorrow
morning and I may end up heading out there
[12:05 AM] _X_ : josh will the chips just now just meet the june supply?
[12:05 AM] BFL_Josh : @supertaranta: It's actually a very difficult and complex question.
[12:05 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : supertaranta, ever done any project management on large scale projects?
[12:05 AM] Fuzzy : Like squeezing HL3 info out of Gabe here
[12:05 AM] SuperTaranta : Yes i have.
[12:06 AM] Bowjob : Hey Josh
[12:06 AM] Bowjob : http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deli...ore-march-1st/
[12:06 AM] Bowjob : What is the answer to it?
[12:06 AM] Bowjob : I just want to make a quick BTC, just be honest.
[12:06 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : then you should know about how long something takes to go from capex approval to finished product
[12:06 AM] Fuzzy : Josh, are you still on schedule?
[12:07 AM] SuperTaranta : Yes I do know that thing take long, arent perfect and what tons of issues. But my question is about
preorders.
[12:07 AM] Bowjob : Tempted to vote No, now that its almost ending
[12:07 AM] BFL_Josh : I am doing everything I can to beat that bet. I don't have any money in it, but I would like to see Mireu the
douchebag lose his ass on that one.
[12:08 AM] BFL_Josh : But it's going to be a close bet.
[12:08 AM] _X_ : we went from feb 10th to now feb 20th and not a single chip shipped i honestly just want my machine here
already
[12:08 AM] Fuzzy : That's doucheNOZZLE to you sir
[12:08 AM] BFL_Josh : I will hopefully know which way it falls tomorrow.
[12:08 AM] Bogart : That's a lot of BTCz riding on that.\
[12:08 AM] polrpaul : Josh, doing everything you can might include getting an update from bumping and relaying that info to us?
[12:08 AM] BFL_Josh : Ah sorry Fuzzy, I get that mixed up!
[12:08 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : heh, josh... if it came to it would you hand deliver to local customers just to beat that bet?
[12:08 AM] Fuzzy : I'm sure he gets is a lot
[12:09 AM] BFL_Josh : @polpaul: As soon as I have something solid I will post it.
[12:09 AM] Bowjob : Okay if tomorrow you say another delay, we know you wont ship it on March
[12:09 AM] Bowjob : but if theres no delay.. then its uncertain and I wont bet
[12:09 AM] BFL_Josh : Red_Wolf_2: Hell yes I would.
[12:09 AM] _X_ : josh we are still waiting on the bumping?
[12:09 AM] polrpaul : he won't give us bad news
[12:09 AM] SuperTaranta : @Josh, what is "Solid" information for you?
[12:09 AM] SuperTaranta : Just curious is all.
[12:09 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : i'd be amused to see that
[12:10 AM] Fuzzy : Josh, what's the weather gonna be like this weekend?
[12:10 AM] BFL_Josh : _X_: I don't know, that's the problem. I don't know if the bumping is done or just partially done. It's very
frustrating not being able to get a comprehensive answer out of people. Which is why we were discussing going to the facility and
standing tehre until we get a #!@$#@ answer.
[12:10 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : meh, good news, bad news.... doesnt matter so long as in the end i get my two jalapeno units
[12:10 AM] Bogart : They've said they've begun bumping?
[12:11 AM] wxp666666 : what is a estimate shipping for people who ordered september-december?
[12:11 AM] vantheman169 : What facility is doing the work? Amkor?
[12:11 AM] SuperTaranta : @Josh last question. How is the order number/account update for us to view our new numbers coming
along?
* Phraust knows that feel.* [12:11 AM]
[12:11 AM] polrpaul : who cares...
[12:11 AM] BFL_Josh : The problem is, the companies nad people we are dealing with do not have the same sense of urgency or
investment into hte project we have. They are used to doing things on time scales that are positively geological comparitively
speaking. So when we come in with accelerated time lines and throwing bonuses around, they get confused like deer in headlights
or something I don't know.
[12:12 AM] _X_ : bitcoin has brung this odd group of people together and i think only because of bitcoin we wait
[12:13 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : bowjob, has anyone other than the two or three units out there actually got one?
[12:13 AM] vantheman169 : Have they even shipped #1 ? cuz hashrate of the network is not much different.
[12:13 AM] polrpaul : Josh, simple answer: you sent chips to be bumped and you estimated their completion date - did the fab not
lock into a delivery schedule with you??
[12:13 AM] Bowjob : I know for sure 2 exists, I saw some chinese guy posts his
[12:13 AM] BFL_Josh : polrpaul: The fab delivered. The chips have been at the bumping facility since like last Thursday.
[12:13 AM] Bowjob : Yifu started shipping them again after CNY
[12:13 AM] SuperTaranta : @Josh, thank you.
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[12:14 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : hmm
[12:14 AM] Fuzzy : Would't it suck if all this pressure caused the facility to F up?
[12:14 AM] polrpaul : sorry bad question, did the bumping facility commit to a delivery schedule?
[12:14 AM] SuperTaranta : @Josh, after this "Bumping" are you planning to choose a different facility in order for this not to
happen again? Or are you sticking with it, hoping for the best
[12:14 AM] Fuzzy : 3 month delay...
[12:14 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : if i can divert away from bumping and shipping... is there anyone at bfl who can talk about overclocking?
[12:14 AM] BFL_Josh : Well, actually ,that's one of the reasons for the delay I think.
[12:14 AM] _X_ : you guys have to hire some people from new york seriously.
[12:14 AM] BFL_Josh : Since we switched from QFN to BGA, we do not have a blank alignment wafer available...
[12:15 AM] Bowjob : It would be nice if you could come clean tomorrow if BFL ships by March or not.. you can tell the guys here
the answer
[12:15 AM] SuperTaranta : /agreed, we new yorkers dont ever stop xD
[12:15 AM] Bowjob : to win free BTC over bitbet
[12:15 AM] BFL_Josh : So I think the bumping facility is going very slowly to be sure they get it right on the first go... if we lose 1
wafer, that's over 1000 chips and that would be very very bad.
[12:15 AM] SuperTaranta : I completly understand, that would suck.
[12:16 AM] BFL_Josh : This is definitely one situation we never anticipated
[12:16 AM] polrpaul : I'm going to infer the answer is NO, the bumping facility never committed to a delivery date, period.
[12:16 AM] Fuzzy : The geeks will sense that
[12:16 AM] BFL_Josh : Hell, I never even knew about the blank wafer thing to begin with... just learned about it today.
[12:16 AM] SuperTaranta : Not sure if you will answer, but curious as how much the cost has come out to for this first batch, for
making everything and shipping ect.
[12:16 AM] vantheman169 : crazy how chips are even made, that shit is complicated and I commend you guys for doing what your
doing.
[12:16 AM] Bogart : Chips are made from sand...
[12:17 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : or potatos
[12:17 AM] Bogart : and a few other bits
[12:17 AM] _X_ : quick question josh this is a hypothetical say all 6 wafers are good how many orders if you had to take a guess
would be filled?
[12:17 AM] vantheman169 : lol
[12:17 AM] Fuzzy : how many mh/s per potato?
[12:17 AM] BFL_Josh : @SuperTaranta: I don't know specific numbers. Quite a bit though.
[12:17 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : you'd get more mh/s with different plants... say pot
[12:18 AM] vantheman169 : LOL
[12:18 AM] vantheman169 : Get a Sativa
[12:18 AM] BFL_Josh : _X_: As I've said, it depends on if they are jalapenos, LS, S or MR's ... How we are going to split that up is
going to be determined by how many good chips we end up wtih. If we end up with all 6600, then quite a bit, if we end up with
5200, then less and the numbers won't be linear, since each line uses a different amount of chips.
[12:19 AM] Bogart : 6 wafers at 1000 chips per would be like 2500 Singles.
[12:19 AM] Bowjob : Guys ASICs have arrived in China at least
[12:19 AM] SysRun : Thanks for showing up in chat Josh, Why don't you arrange a daily or twice daily AMA here until you ship?
* SysRun has reached 1750 shouts!* [12:19 AM]
[12:19 AM] polrpaul : Josh - thanks for stopping by man
[12:20 AM] polrpaul : keep us posted with something
[12:20 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : hmm
[12:20 AM] BFL_Josh : SysRun: I literally just got home and sat down at the computer.. I don't have any specific time I can show up,
I just work until it's time to be done for the day. And like today, I simply don't have any good information to share.
[12:20 AM] BFL_Josh : It's 23:00 here in KC right now.
[12:20 AM] Fuzzy : Yeah, props dude
[12:20 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : would you favor number of devices over processing power of devices?
[12:20 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : ie more jalapenos, little singles, etc over minirigs?
[12:20 AM] BFL_Josh : We are going to try to split it up as best as possible, so there's a good mix of all the product lines.
[12:21 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : fair enough
[12:21 AM] _X_ : i think it would help everyone if they knew what order number of the specific item they ordered they are in.. EX:
[12:22 AM] SysRun : the next set of wafers?
[12:23 AM] Bogart : I assume the other 6 wafers are gonna wait until the first 6 are proven.
[12:23 AM] KrLos : BFL_Josh! man can you do me a favor?
[12:23 AM] BFL_Josh : Yes, they are about 1.5 weeks away from completion and holding.
[12:23 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : ah
[12:23 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : are the various boards for the chips all done?
[12:23 AM] BFL_Josh : The bulk are about 4 weeks from completion I think, slightly less.
[12:23 AM] crap : is that 1.5 weeks include shipping to bumping?
[12:23 AM] crap : for the "second batch"
[12:24 AM] BFL_Josh : Yes, we are on revision E... and we just moved to a 10 layer board (from 8) to make the minirig and inter
board communication much more robust and able to handle more devices. I bought up adding the ability to XLink singles.
[12:24 AM] BFL_Josh : It was well received, so I think we are going to make an XLinkable single at some point.
[12:24 AM] BFL_Josh : That will be pretty awesome in my opinion.
[12:24 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : oh nice!
[12:24 AM] _X_ : 10 mini rig's 2000 chips 400 sc's 3,200 chips ;; something like this then the break out for the jap and the little
[12:24 AM] SysRun : does the bumping facility have a latest completion date in your contract?
[12:25 AM] Jerry Mckenzie : SO NO LATER THAN MAY/
[12:25 AM] BFL_Josh : SysRun: No, we contracted with the packager and the packager handles the bumping. The fac tthat we are
intimately involved in the bumping process is not normal.
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[12:25 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : any photos of the rev e board out there? last I saw was rev c on a fuzzy photo
[12:25 AM] BFL_Josh : Umm... yeah I can take one, but visually it's the same as the earlier boards.
[12:25 AM] BFL_Josh : The additional 2 layers are all internal.
[12:26 AM] Jerry Mckenzie : so 3 months?
[12:26 AM] BFL_Josh : 3 months what?
[12:26 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : less fuzzy or on a macro shot? id love to get an idea of how some of the non asic components are
handled
[12:26 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : it might save me taking the case off my units the instant they arrive too
[12:26 AM] BFL_Josh : Yeah, I will try to remember to bring a board home and take a pictures with the SLR
[12:26 AM] BFL_Josh : In my lightbox
[12:27 AM] Red_Wolf_2 : sweet, thanks!\
[12:27 AM] dps123 : Josh, do you think any cards will be completed before the end of the month?
[12:27 AM] Jerry Mckenzie : maybe this fall
[12:27 AM] KrLos : JOSH! man Can I use photos of the BFL gallery for the weekly contest?
[12:27 AM] crap : Jerry you being scarcasitc?
[12:27 AM] BFL_Josh : dps123: I am going to do everything possible to get at least 5 units out to customers as soon as humanly
possible.
[12:27 AM] Jerry Mckenzie : no
[12:27 AM] discokruse : is the order status page up yet?
[12:28 AM] Jerry Mckenzie : it take time and just have to learn not to wait
[12:28 AM] KrLos : i want to use this picture for the weekly contest https://forums.butterflylabs.com/dbt...lery&type=full can i use
it?
[12:28 AM] polrpaul : because 5 is better than 2 ?
[12:29 AM] monkey : i volunteer to be one of the 5
[12:29 AM] dps123 : Wonderful Josh, highly anticipating my single and little single! if 5 come out, surely 5000 will come out just as
quick
[12:29 AM] BFL_Josh : KRLos: Oh, yeah sure no problem.
[12:29 AM] _X_ : this is funny http://www.sfgate.com/business/prweb...IC-4243752.php
[12:29 AM] KrLos : Super taranta, I set up now the litecoin mining with stratum.. and now i'm getting like 250 k/hs ~ 300 hh/s
[12:29 AM] KrLos : Thanks Josh
[12:30 AM] Jerry Mckenzie : try a ps3
[12:31 AM] Bogart : I ordered be some casascius coins last night.
[12:32 AM] Bogart : Can;t wait to see 'em.
[12:32 AM] crap : o.O wth are those?
* crap has reached 50 shouts!* [12:32 AM]
[12:32 AM] Bogart : https://www.casascius.com/
[12:32 AM] Bogart : Physical bitcoins.
[12:32 AM] crap : ooo okk ok
* grnbrg waves to Josh. Wish it was better news, but thanks for the update.* [12:32 AM]
[12:33 AM] Bogart : https://www.casascius.com/photos.aspx
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By now, BFL should have a very good idea of how many of each type of unit they're going to assemble from batch 1. I suspect they know damned well that however they choose to allocate those first 6,000 chips is going to be controversial and that they'll hold off letting customers know how many of each unit will be shipping in Batch 1 until the last possible moment.
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Think back to what happened with bASIC.
Yes, there you go, they collapsed because of delays Wrong. They collapsed because Tom either scammed them or fucked up badly, leading to people refunding because people were refunding.If delays were sufficient to cause a collapse, then BFL should logically have collapsed as well. Idiot. bASIC collapsed because everyone lost confidence and pulled their money out. Tom didn't show up to meetings and didn't provide enough details about where he was at any point. This is the exact same scenario that happened with BFL up until recently. It was only recently that BFL fessed up to having a respin. You didn't know that until they told you about it. [in January 2013] Many people with actual hardware experience speculated that a respin occurred but it didn't come from BFL until much later (think January). BFL has delayed anywhere from 2x or 3x longer than bASIC did. ----------------------- The only difference between bASIC and BFL is the fact that BFL has had more luck and inspired more confidence in customers. But BFL is up against the wall at this point (4 months after October 2012.) They either provide a product or the same that happened to bASIC will happen again. ------------------------- What cockamamey BS story you wrote up above is hardly the reason bASIC collapsed. |
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So let me get this straight. You're saying that because BFL offers refunds, you can't properly calculate the amount of risk that is involved in pre-ordering from them, and they're a ponzi? But because Avalon doesn't offer refunds, they're the safer bet? The only two options are either offer refunds, or ship products? Avalon doesn't offer refunds, so it's a 100% guarantee you will get a product? But BFL does offer refunds, so there's a chance you won't get your product, so it's not smart to buy from BFL? So. Fucking. Stupid.
Actually, not so "stupid". Think back to what happened with bASIC. Yes, there you go, they collapsed because of delays (same as BFL) and open ended refunds availability (again same as BFL). Keep that in mind. bASIC is a practical outcome of this in actual practice. Anytime you embark on something and you tap the pool of cash that isn't technically yours yet AND offer open ended refunds, there is a risk of collapse. BFL has been asked several times if they have each penny accounted for. They said yes. They were asked if they had dipped into these funds, they have always maintained they never have nor will do so. --------------------------- So in theory there is no risk as long as you know of the health of the Venture Capitalist. Of course, no one is told who provided the venture capitali. So...you sorta have to go on faith that this is actually true and is [supposedly] the case.In the case of bASIC, a good number of customers were left holding the bag because (as I particularly warned) they all rushed to get their money back at the same time. Some were left with no money, and you guessed it, no product. Had bASIC followed Avalon on not providing open ended refunds, they wouldn't have gone under. People also wouldn't have lost their money or be left trying to recover those monies via the courts. Or how about this crazy thought - I don't ask for a refund, and they ship me a Single when it's ready? Or I can ask for a refund, and they give me my money back! How does that make them less attractive?
The only thing you have to hope is that the BFL chips work within spec. If not, bASIC v2 will happen once again. At which point a smart company would say "no" to refunds and piss off customers but stay in buisness. Or Say "yes", try to please everyone, and go dark after a certain threshold has been reached in viability. ----------- Of course, the only good end for everyone is that the chips must work. Full stop. Any problems and I doubt there will be a recovery. So hammer the BFL forums and figure out whether things are going right in the process. Be smart, if you see trouble, decide quickly if you want to be in the first wave of refunds or the second. *the second wave rarely gets their money back* So don't take this "silence", make some waves and get answers. Be informed. |
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The question is how long Josh believes he can put off announcing another delay before BFL customers lose their shit.
Is there even going to be anything to show kano apart from boxes and fans before his return flight?
The way things are shaping up, there's likely to be at least one more difficulty jump before BFL customers start receiving their orders.
Ahh, I think he will say either: The "week" of the 27th. or The Fifth week of February....oh shit...February only had 28 days...FUCK! Ah, but if he says the week of the 27th....he could make people wait all the way until the 2nd.  |
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There is no hard evidence they ever had any chips back in October now is there? Video? Witnesses? People are still forgetting that all that has really been said by josh...are JUST WORDS. Oh right we cant forget the box of fans he brought to CES. Other than that, that is all the "evidence" there really exists. Why is BFL so quiet? Aren't they supposed to be shipping already? Or at least assembling units? Why no pix? Why no updates? Oh wait...let me guess Leprechauns stole the magic chips and shoved them up a unicorns ass?  Perhaps the chips never made it in time for " Kano's Press and Pony Show"? |
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I'm laughting on this shit AVALON YOU ARE IDIOTS.I'm surprised at WalletBit frankly. Walletbit, as always seems to be coming up short. They really should invest in proper hardware and infrastructure. |
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I just upgraded my electrical wiring and box. (No, I didn't pay for it directly)
Went from a tiny 65 amp set up to about 175amp. I had several circuits added.
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I suspect that the bigger issue with BFL is that Avalon is soaking up potential profits from the community.
Alot of the bASIC customers are probably now Avalon customers I would think. So I doubt it is a big deal in the short term.
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Honestly, I don't want BFL to fail as it is never a good idea to have one company selling the only mining rig.
I just wonder about the tight specs they are aiming for. If they are off even by 20% it would be a pretty big deal breaker. Not that people wouldn't want it despite that scenario, I just have doubts the underlying support for electricity and thermal management would be as good in such a scenario.
Overclocking would also take a hard blow if they were off by as much as 20%.
It is like a Ferrari. Have you ever tried to fit an engine that is slightly bigger than its chassis? If so, then you know that "show stopping" problems can occur.
Heres hoping they do everything like they should have.
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