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3561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 04, 2017, 02:39:10 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rYBOqW9SDmE
3562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 04, 2017, 09:17:40 AM
Decentralization is king - not individuals -
If you like decentralization than you shouldn't support either of the 2 Bitcoin versions.

Hu ? What is better AND even safe ?

And how do you define 'decentralized' ?   <- This is bit a crux ...
3563  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 04, 2017, 08:21:49 AM
Adam Back weighs in on how Bitcoin can be used in commerce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGfPEZRkn6o

Cool - these Tabs might be empowered by AXA or BS patented ?

 Grin

Looks very good prepared.
3564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 04, 2017, 08:04:49 AM
Won't this thread be banned one day? Or is this thread more anti-Bitcoin Cash? Anyway, I just came here to look for reasons why Bitcoin Cash price is holding up and about to go up another leg.

Wasn't bitcoin's first idea not about immutability and disruption ?

 Grin

If you look at the open source code Bitcoin Cash is more immutable to SegWit and TABs.

Decentralization is king - not individuals -

3565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 03, 2017, 09:51:16 AM
I don't buy the Bilderberg FuD but the rest is reasonable

https://youtu.be/6V365_59-Lc

Why not? Henri de Castries is the chairman of AXA. AXA is one of the main investors in Blockstream. Henri de Castries is also the immediate past char of the Bilderberg group.

This is all a matter of public record. What is not 'to buy'?

The AXA is one of many investors over a VC fund. They have many stakes in tech startups w/o much agenda except of make money.

The world is too complex to be controlled by single groups, even Bilderberg. You give em too much power, but ok there is a small probability - is it that high?

A good thing is to uncover as much as possible from these groups but w/o any good investigative journalism I cannot believe much here. Ppl should not pre-judge, we have already too much fud here.

I guess I don't understand. By 'I don't buy the Bilderberg FuD', it seems that you believe that the Bilderberg angle is a central tenet of the thesis in the video.

FWIW, I can find several non-scary reasons that an organization directed by the same party that directs the Bilderberg group might invest in a company working on new monetary technology. (Of course, I can think of some scary ones as well). But the info in the video does not hinge upon the assumption that Bilderbergs hired Blockstream as their lackeys to destroy the viability of cryptocurrencies.

Yep, the hinge is not evident (enough), so I might gotten it too hard. Anyway, it should not matter to mention it but I'd rather concentrate on the decentral growth, esp in different teams, regions, agendas that makes bitcoin really unbreakeble, even by Bilderbergmonsters.
3566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 03, 2017, 08:19:43 AM
I don't buy the Bilderberg FuD but the rest is reasonable

https://youtu.be/6V365_59-Lc

Why not? Henri de Castries is the chairman of AXA. AXA is one of the main investors in Blockstream. Henri de Castries is also the immediate past char of the Bilderberg group.

This is all a matter of public record. What is not 'to buy'?

The AXA is one of many investors over a VC fund. They have many stakes in tech startups w/o much agenda except of make money.

The world is too complex to be controlled by single groups, even Bilderberg. You give em too much power, but ok there is a small probability - is it that high?

A good thing is to uncover as much as possible from these groups but w/o any good investigative journalism I cannot believe much here. Ppl should not pre-judge, we have already too much fud here.
3567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 03, 2017, 08:11:19 AM
BCH is the only fork coin from BTC that's not shit

How about the Segwit (soft) fork is shit as well?

It's the biggest one IMO
3568  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: IS THERE A WAY TO KEEP BITCOIN FROM GOVERNMENTAL CONTROL? on: December 02, 2017, 09:11:47 PM
If the masses will use bitcoin on a daily base and buy food and services than it will be no way for goverments to shut it down.

If only speculative use as is by today... easy to shut down.
3569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 02, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
I don't buy the Bilderberg FuD but the rest is reasonable

https://youtu.be/6V365_59-Lc
3570  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is working fine! No change needed! on: December 02, 2017, 01:37:45 PM
Change is done

https://youtu.be/6V365_59-Lc
3571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 02, 2017, 10:19:18 AM
Yesterday I spoke about the unconfirmed transactions in the "wall observer" forum, many commented that they were spam transactions in the network to discredit it.

After several exchanges nobody could show me a bitcon transaction with really low rate.

This morning all my posts have been deleted. wtf? I thought there was only censorship in reddit.

Has someone else happened to you?

Yep. This is a strong core / blockstream heavy controlled forum here. Maby in this ALT section you are more free yet. But I wonder what will happen when the price momentum of btc will roll over?
3572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: The Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash battle. on: December 01, 2017, 08:18:02 PM

Not bad. I love how people in the comments keep saying "that's not how Lightning works", when it doesn't even exist yet.

Trolls vs. Aztek both please stop spamming your personal attacks. It's making the thread unreadable, even if some of the insults are funny. Just STAHP.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-30/blankfein-says-too-soon-for-bitcoin-strategy-as-volatility-jumps

Idiot Bloomberg called blockchain "bitchain" and has no idea what that is...  The irony of these fraudsters talking about Bitcoin being a scam...

Interesting that Blankfein said "cash is hard to acquire"...

Hmm guess it's called bchain, at least since segwit is in, build by bstream.
3573  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright (not) answering why his Satoshi "Proof" was Fake on: December 01, 2017, 01:09:59 PM
He answeres herein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74XhvbXx_pY
3574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 30, 2017, 08:29:55 PM
Anyone know how much BCH price on 1st January?
I plan to investing on BCH Cheesy

The simplest and best prediction model would be: It is same price as today.
 Grin

But crypto is harder and a trend these days.
3575  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: November 30, 2017, 08:01:08 PM
du bist auf dem richtigen Weg ...
Weiß glaub schon, was du meinst, aber Big Blocks, Bitcoin Cash und On-Chain-Scaling sind meiner Meinung nach nicht der Weg.

Bzw. Big Blocks vielleicht, wenn sowas wie das Mini-Blockchain-Project implementiert werden sollte. Wink

Der Kurs versucht sich ja nochmal an den 10K, aber ob er die 11500 noch mal schafft?




Bin immer noch der Meinung, dass der einfache Weg der richtige / genialere ist.

 Spekulationsdruck / Riskfreude / Gier ist aber sicher noch gross genug, um den sonst mehr und mehr verwendungsärmeren Bitcoin auf 20-30k hochzuzocken. Der Preis-Trend ist noch nicht gebrochen, 2017 war brutal, so dass es wohl 2018 noch höher kommen sollte.

Es bleibt spannend!
3576  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: November 30, 2017, 02:19:20 PM
Ich finde auch, dass J. Stiglitz unrecht hat. Der Bitcoin hat das Potenzial, dass endlich auch mal global Menschen gemeinsame finanzielle (oder Wohlstands?)-Interessen teilen können und nicht jeder auf seine eigene Fiat-Blase beschränkt bleibt. Könnte man sogar naiverweise als eine Art Friedensprojekt sehen - ich meine z.B. ein Israeli und ein Iraner verstehen sich sicher gut wenn beide Bitcoiner sind Wink

Aber mit der Spekuliererei und Blasenbilderei und dem To-Da-Moon-Geheule sorgen wir halt auch dafür, dass der Eindruck eines reinen Spekulationstools und des ungebändigten Casino-Kapitalismus entsteht.

Ich glaube daher, dass der Bitcoin härter auf die Nase fallen wird (weitere Verbote in Drittweltstaaten, schlechte Presse usw.), wenn der Kurs jetzt noch weiter in der gleichen Geschwindigkeit steigt, ohne dabei Fortschritte bei der Nutzung als "Peer to peer electronic cash" zu machen. Die 10.000-Party hatten wir ja, also wäre es kein schlechter Moment um jetzt die Rally etwas abzukühlen. Oder alternativ um mit Second Layers nachhaltig zu wachsen.

Weiß noch nicht, ob das schon jemand hier gepostet hat - aber ich fand den Artikel von Michael J Casey ganz gut:

To the Moon? Time to Grow Up, Bitcoin


du bist auf dem richtigen Weg ...

3577  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: November 29, 2017, 01:55:51 PM
11K auf Bitstamp ---
3578  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: November 29, 2017, 06:53:31 AM

 


Unglaublich


2008 erfunden

9 Jahre alt

10.000$


Happy Trading!
 

 
3579  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: November 28, 2017, 11:35:33 AM
Jetzt geht es erst richtig los.
Erste Meldungen kommen.
https://de.investing.com/news/economy-news/bitcoin-knackt-auf-einzelnen-handelsplattformen-10-000-dollarmarke-530130
Bitcoin knackt auf einzelnen Handelsplattformen 10 000 Dollar-Marke

Jo - grosse Sell Walls auf GDAX, Bitfi und BStamp - aber das Knacken wird lauter ...

In JPY sind wir schon lange drüber!
3580  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 28, 2017, 09:33:23 AM
10k today?

Next two hours - my estimate...  Grin
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