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3561  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin movement: my thought on: August 31, 2023, 09:05:57 AM
I just thought of this, and I want you to view it from your own perspective. As everyone hopes that more people get to believe and use bitcoins, I think bitcoins can gain more new users on a large scale if anyone (whales ) can place their advert through a popular football club just as some companies do sponsor  football league. I think this will send a strong message to billions of people across the world who do know but does not embrace Bitcoin usage.
The more people know about Bitcoin, The demand for Bitcoin will increase exponentially. But why we don't see such campaigns is because it is decentralized. Now almost everyone knows about Bitcoin and it is expanding. People will associate with Bitcoin on their own terms. No need for promotion. The popularity of Bitcoin in 2017 has multiplied in 2021 and it is likely to increase its rate even more in the next years. Since Bitcoin has not yet received legal validity in all places, its expansion will only be gained if it is spread among others, not traditionally, but by increasing their own knowledge.
You've certainly hit on a point about Bitcoin's growth; its organic and community-driven. While I agree with you that awareness has surged, especially since 2017, one could argue that proactive educational campaigns might actually bolster its rate of adoption even further. For instance, people are often skeptical or uninterested because they simply don't understand what Bitcoin is, or why it matters. Trust me, this kind of boredom is more common than you might think.

Even though it's decentralized, the community can organize grassroots movements or campaigns to dispel myths & educate the public. Crowdfunding for such projects isn't a stretch. Why wait for people to educate themselves when we can expedite the process and increase the rate of adoption? So, while the decentralized nature does mean there's no "official" promotion, this shouldn't hinder a collective community effort
3562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: August 30, 2023, 05:28:12 PM

I judge that curiosity is not something real but more precisely the pursuit of losses. someone who is curious, he will not continue to chase when he sees that the losses are getting bigger, but for a gambling addict, he does not care about his budget, which continues to be sucked up, just because he believes that chasing losses can get his budget back. its actually about self control because bad control curiosity turns into greed that chases past losses.

this reckless betting starts with small things that are ignored, such as when a gambler has to be committed to a plan that has been set before betting but ignoring it all ends in poor control.

It's really about the discipline a gambler possess. Because no matter how curious you are on what a bet might turn out, if you have enough self-control and you know your limitations, then you will not persist to play because you know the consequences to begin with. Meanwhile, if you are already addicted in gambling, you won't mind overspending and giving much time dedicated to gambling. You will be nonchalant to the losses because you are greedy to get the winnings.


Hence, it's really essential to follow your boundaries. Do not fall into having some kind of cheat day because if you will do such, you might find yourself indulging on it more frequently. Prevention is always better than cure. You must focus on your goal so you won't get lost.
Well, well, isn’t that something? Discipline in gambling is much like deciding to wear a tie in the morning. Sure, you can pick the blue or the red, but at the end of the day, it’s about how you wear it, isn’t it?

Your point about addiction, it’s akin to someone being too engrossed in their favorite song, dancing away, forgetting the world. But when the music stops? Reality strikes. Addiction, you see, is that prolonged song - it drowns out the essential sounds of reason and restraint.

And cheat days! Ha! Reminds me of those occasions when you decide to have that extra slice of pie. It tastes so good, but oh, the ramifications later on! Gambling's cheat days? They're a siren call, pulling you deeper into the sea of unpredictability.
3563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do the size and frequency of online casino winnings depend on the time of year? on: August 30, 2023, 05:02:51 PM
I guess it's just a myth for some gamblers because they will keep gambling no matter how many times they will win. And if they win, they will also come back to play again because their instinct as gamblers is always to want to return to gambling. It has become a habit. And because they always return to the casino, it is difficult for them to know when they can get lucky by winning the game. When betting on sports, certain events can give them bigger wins because they can get better information than other events. But it also depends on how the gambler can get information that can give him a chance to win.

But if a gambler feels he can win a lot in certain months, he should only play gambling in those months. Dan will not play gambling outside of those months because he can get defeated.
Gamblers, like everyone else, want more. A constant desire. Gambling is about the thrill of the chase, not just winning or losing. If one believes specific months bring luck, this is a strategy, but not the most prevalent.

More knowledge can help you win at sports betting. Still, where do these facts come from? Who says certain months are luckier than others? The giant question mark.

On going to the casino repeatedly: Isn't life repetitive? Wake up, chase our aspirations, and sometimes achieve, sometimes fail. Yet here we are, repeating the trip. Gamble deliberately, with heart, and with hope. Keep in mind that even with the best knowledge, nothing can be guaranteed. The universe has intentions that don't always match ours.

3564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 30, 2023, 04:48:58 PM
Hazard took a big step forward when he signed for Real Madrid back then. But that chain of injuries he got there already brought the end of his career I'm afraid. Otherwise we could have been mentioning his name much more differently now. He could have been one of the critical members of the team.

Maybe he wasn't going to get injured that often if he stayed at Chelsea I don't know. It was like a turning point in his career. Now he has become one of the ordinary players in the industry. Maybe he wouldn't be like that for Saudi teams but it looks like he just wants to retire no matter what.
He was once one of Europe's most after, but now Eden Hazard is just a shadow of himself. He will be remembered as one of Chelsea's greatest players. In Real's shirt, Hazard is the most disappointing contract in history. He spent most of his time in the hospital room due to injury or on the bench due to poor performance. Hazard could retire at 32 after turning down all offers in the summer of 2023. It was the right decision for him when injuries always haunted him.
Honestly the hastily move of Eden Hazard to Real Madrid put an end to his once flourishing career at Chelsea, infact in 2018 he was among one of the best player in the world while at his best in Chelsea, he is a very skillful dribbler and a very pacy player, unfortunately injury dealt a big blow to his footballing career at Real Madrid, I think he  decided to retire early just to prevent his reoccurring injury problems definitely he isn't going to enjoy a regular playing time if he had decided to continue playing active football, I wish the best as he embark on another phase of his life, if possible he might consider managerial job offer after completing simet coaching courses just like Lampard, Gerrard, Arteta etc.
Hazard went to Real Madrid. Not the best choice. I mean, we're talking about a guy who was the heart and soul of Chelsea and likely one of the best dribblers in the EPL. Remember the season of 2016/17? Magic from Hazard's past! Real Madrid, though? Geez. We thought he would fill Ronaldo's shoes, but what did we get instead? A string of bad things that happened. Now, I'm very worried about how all these injuries will affect his future, both in sports and in his personal life. Sometimes you have to wonder if Madrid's charm was worth it. I guess that only Hazard knows for sure. Maybe he put his health first, which is a good thing. I'm sure I'd do the same thing!
3565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Constant wins in the casino for several days, then constant losses. Noticed?! on: August 30, 2023, 04:28:11 PM
Playing for many years, I observe a certain series of wins and losses. It looks like it every time! Also in casino chats, a lot of people talk about it.

Most of the time the casino takes the money. But when the winning session comes, on this day many slots give you a solid win, it is impossible to lose. This successful session can last several days.
As soon as this ends, absolutely all slots begin to take money.

How do you win and lose?
Although I understand what you're saying, isn't that the rush we all long for? The game's emotional roller coaster and challenge of willpower are a result of the highs and lows, ebb and flow. But let's face it, a machine is impossible to outwit. We'd all be millionaires and Vegas' lights would go out if it were that simple, am I right?

It's crucial to have a strategy, follow it, but also make adjustments as needed. A planned risk is preferable to a careless wager. The house edge exists; it is awake at all times and never forgets. So perhaps it's time to take a step back once you're standing. Enjoy the victory, savour the moment, and keep in mind that you're playing more than just the game when you play.
3566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 30, 2023, 03:57:11 PM
Roma vs AC Milan match on Friday, it will going to be a tough match, and it will make AC Milan to lose points because there is no way Roma will miss this victory in their home this weekend, because they are good in using home advantage to play their opponent to embrace three points from the match. I think, AC Milan never experience any defeat from this season that is making them to top the Italian league table, and they will do everything possible within their skills not to allow Roma to disgrace them than to struggle for draw 1-1, which I know Roma will not allow such mistakes to happen in their home than to apply new skills that will make them to achieve victory at the end of the match.
Milan is not only at the top of the table, but also has the best team spirit this season. The way they've been doing lately says that they may have the upper hand. But playing on Roma's home pitch? Thats a whole different ball game. But I've heard rumours about Milan's great summer signings. Those guys seem to have fit in quickly and well with the team. But with Lukaku leading Roma, I think that changes everything. Even though I agree with your estimate of 1-1, theres a small part of me that says, "Expect the unexpected!" So, what's my guess? A fight where the winner is a surprise. Lets see what happens.
3567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: August 30, 2023, 03:46:18 PM
I noticed some good decisions, bond and chemistry between Harry Kane and Leroy Sane on the pitch. This are some of thr benefits of having Harry Kane.
The chemistry between him and Leroy Sane may just be what will help them in the champions league when it begins. For the Bundesliga, they look to already be the dominant team there, the Champions league will be where Harry Kane will need to proof that he is worthy of the money paid for his transfer to the club. Harry Kane would love to win the champions league for the first time, so I am sure that when the competition begins, he will be putting in his very best to make sure that it works out for him on his very first attempt with his new club.
I've always thought football players' friendships were crucial. Harry Kane seems to have taken this issue seriously since joining Bayern Munich. According to my understanding, it's not only him and Leroy Sane. He's also getting to know Serge Gnabry, Kingsley Coman, Josua Kimmich, and Thomas Muller, the team's most important player. Why not do it again at Bayern? Kane and Son got along well at Spurs. He has scored twice for Bayern this season, but its a marathon, not a sprint! In the Bundesliga? Bayern might be finest. The Champions League? Not easy to crack.
3568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 30, 2023, 03:28:56 PM
Galatasaray beat Molde yesterday, albeit with difficulty, and qualified for the Champions League group stage. With this win, they took an important point in Turkey and moved up to 9th place. Galatasaray took the lead in the 7th minute with a penalty. Icardi took the penalty and scored. In the second half, Molde equalized in the 66th minute, but it would not be enough for them to advance.  After Molde scored another goal in the last minutes but it was canceled for offside, Galatasaray scored and won 2-1.
Unexpectedly, when Molde put up quite a fierce resistance in this match, when the first leg was played at Molde's home ground, Galatasaray was able to win and many people predicted that Galatasaray would be able to win easily in the second leg because it was played at their home ground.
However, in this match Molde made the match fierce, even though their chances were very small.
However, if you look at the quality, I think Galatasaray really deserves to qualify, they are quite strong this season, especially with the arrival of Icardi making quite significant changes to their front line.
Icardi's transfer is an important point for Galatasaray and he is making that felt in every game. Icardi and Muslera are two of the best signings of Galatasaray in recent seasons. Icardi has become an integral part of the team with his performance. I don't think anyone expected Molde to be so resilient. They showed that they have the potential to beat Galatasaray at home but of course they couldn't do it. When we look at the squad value and squad of Galatasaray, we can easily say that they have a far superior squad than Molde.
I can see why everyone is excited about Icardi's move to Galatasaray. Have you even seen him play? He always seems to get goals. He was paired with Muslera? Galatasaray did something very smart. But, and this is where I'm a little bit confused, why didn't Galatasaray win the game against Molde even though Torreira was back? Galatasaray should have easily beaten them based on how good their team was. And now there are rumours that Ramos is going to join Galatasaray? Oh boy, if that happens! Their attack might become as strong as their defence. But here's the thing: having a good team doesn't mean you'll win every game. The team has to have the right vibe! But that's just my opinion.


3569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 30, 2023, 03:07:37 PM
I assume the biggest game of the week is Arsenal - Manchester United. Arsenal are quite highly favoured to win this game first of all. Actually there is only one point between these teams now. But I like Arsenal's game more than Manchester United anyway now. Manchester United are still dealing with some big issues with defending.
Big games can still be unpredictable of course. But I don't give the Red Devils much chance to win anyway. We have all seen how they played against Tottenham away. I expect them to struggle in this game as well. Arsenal can win this by one goal in my opinion.
I agree that big matches are very difficult to predict. Manchester United and Arsenal are the 2 big Premier League teams and the two have had many fierce battles between them in the past.
At the start of this season, Manchester United's performance was not very good, so it is very natural that Arsenal is the favorite, especially since this match will be played at Emirates Stium, Arsenal's home ground.
However, when I saw Arsenal's performance last weekend, it made me think that they are not much different from Man United, it seems that these two teams have not found their best performance yet, so I think this match will still be very fierce and both have the same chance to win the game.
Can't wait to watch this Big Match, I think who will come out as the winner in this match is worthy of being called a team that is challenging for champions this season. Many put Arsenal to be able to secure three points in this match, because the Man United squad is being hit by a hurricane of injuries. The rest Arsenal will play in front of their own supporters at the Emirates stadium, of course this will add to the motivation and mentality of Arteta's squad.
Even so, Man United could have beaten Arsenal even though they were not seeded. Ten Hag has a number of options to rotate injured players, it is reported that Rasmus Hojlund will mark his debut in this match.

We still have to wait for 4 more days to enjoy this match. It is impossible to predict which team will win. I'd say this match will basically be Arteta vs Ten Hag. The performance of the players in this match will be more important than the match strategy. Because the opponent is strong. If the match strategy is not good, it is not possible to defeat the opponent. The ability of Arteta and Ten Hag can be understood in this match.

The performance of Manchester United's attacking players is not regular. The team could not even score a goal against Tattenham. Arsenal's defense is very strong. This is why Manchester United's attacking players must play well if they want to win. However, it is not surprising that Manchester United wants to share the points in this match by playing defensive strategy. I guess Manchester United will play defensive strategy in this match. And they will aim to draw the match.
At the Emirates, Arsenal's game is sure to be intense, especially with the crowd supporting them. Who wouldnt, after all? But isnt the outcome of the match partially predetermined by the circumstances? You might think Im off here, but I have this strange gut sense. I dont mean to cast doubt on United, but given their extensive injury list and lacklustre performance against Tattenham, Im dubious. Its similar to watching a chess game when one player's queen is being ignored while Arteta and Ten Hag face off. The erratic United offence may face a significant challenge from Arsenal's defence. What if United simply stops the bus and attempts to draw? Wouldnt that be disappointing?
3570  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Question on Governemnt's Sales of Seized Bitcoins on: August 30, 2023, 03:02:10 PM
value's transient nature takes center stage. When governments, like the U.S., seize these bitcoin, they often move to auction them. They don't live in the past. Auctions reflect the market's current mood, the price now, not the ghost of what was. Bitcoins, seized in years gone by, don't carry a timestamp. The market speaks in the present tense. So, the U.S., Australia, Germany, or the Netherlands, they all sell Bitcoin by the present market rate

It's akin to fishing. When you catch a big one, do you measure its value by the time spent waiting, or by the weight at the dock? The weight, always. That said, numbers, like that $366.5 million, can deceive. It's easy to mix meanings. Auctions, seizures, valuations - all complex, all interwoven. But remember, Bitcoin's nature, its essence, defies simple definitions A note, though: even with the crispness of numbers, there's room for error. With Bitcoin, the only certainty is uncertainty. One must tread wisely, but also with fervor. The future's never written, not in Bitcoin, not anywhere.
3571  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When to invest in bitcoin on: August 30, 2023, 02:40:24 PM
Bitcoin is good asset when you know exactly when to invest in bitcoin, before now I have being reading articles of bitcoin and when I read the articles of bitcoin I do notice new things every time I read of bitcoin. I notice that investing in bitcoin it needs more research to know when due is the perfect time to invest in bitcoin. And I find out that the perfect time a newbie can invest  in bitcoin  is when the price  of bitcoin  is in bear market, like some weeks ago bitcoin drop a different in the market price and its very nice opportunity for short term investors to buy and keep and be ready to sell when the market rise. I was willing to buy bitcoin immediately the price drop but the challenge i have them was I'm  not with cash, but I will be waiting until the price fall again, and if it fall again I will not miss the opportunity of buying bitcoin and keep for long term investment
If you had missed out that previous drop then you could always wait up for another drop but it do have that main question is on when it would happen? This is what mainly the community to have in their
minds because if this thing was predictable then all of us would really be that rich on trading but we know that it is really just that impossible on having this way. Market does have always that opportunity
and if you had missed one then there's always an upcoming one on which you should really be that wise on when to get in and when to get out but there's some other option though on which if you arent that a fan on risking out something on active manner on which you could always have the option for you to accumulate on whatever prices you would really be able to enter since you are going for long term then it wont really be that much of an issue. Just make yourself invest on the amount on which you can afford to lose so that on the time that the market would be giving out such movement then
you wont really be making yourself that impulsive just because you had anticipated or expected something.
Many people carry missed chances, but crypto's round nature comforts them. Bitcoin would benefit and hurt us if we could see the future. However, its a powerful, strange beast, and our attempts to tame it are pathetically foolish.

Financial plan requires patience and foresight. Finding order where others perceive chaos. The market will rise and fall like the sun. This cant be changed, so we must constantly be prepared. Buy or sell? Wasted time. Knowing how to handle it? The real money is made.

Promoting long-term planning is sensible and short-sighted. Accepting reality can be perilous, even while steady growth is pleasant. Still, people should invest because they believe in it, not merely because they can. By that theory, being careful with numbers is wise, but doesnt it contradict crypto's limitless, relentless ambition?
3572  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will the bitcoiners realize bitcoin is just fiat with enforced tax on: August 30, 2023, 02:20:27 PM
When will the bitcoiners realize bitcoin is just fiat with more steps on a transparent ledger with enforced tax aka network fee. When your nation legalizes it like canada you will pay network fee and tax on top, such wow.

There's no such thing as "free lunch". You'd need to pay a fee for your transaction to go through the Blockchain. Otherwise, the network would be extremely-vulnerable against spam attacks. It would result in higher network congestion to a point where BTC will become unusable. Fees are just a way to protect the network from attackers while supporting the miners. I wouldn't call them an "enforced tax" mechanism, but rather a contribution to the network itself. Everyone benefits in the process. Miners will profit, while you get to enjoy financial freedom.

What's disturbing is how every transaction is visible on the public BTC blockchain. You don't want prying eyes knowing your utmost sensitive info. Fortunately, we have both custodial and non-custodial mixers to use Bitcoin in a private and anonymous way. If that's not enough, you could simply convert BTC to XMR for complete peace of mind. Who knows if BTC becomes a part of our daily life in the future? Just my thoughts Grin
the fee is not an "enforced tax," as you say. You're right; its a contribution. Fees stabilize the system, prevent spam, and keep the network running like a well-oiled machine. Yeah, I agree with your point, miners need to eat too, and these fees keep their servers humming. Its the invisible hand of economics showing its genius again, but in a digital landscape.

However, on the issue of privacy, I find it bothersome. A public ledger? Transparency can be double-edged. On one hand, its the epitome of decentralized ideology; on the other hand, its a privacy nightmare. Sure, you have mixers, but isnt that like putting a band-aid on a bullet hole? Converting BTC to XMR is an option, but its also an extra step that veers off the straightforward path Bitcoin promises.
3573  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you go about realizing gains? If you opt not to, what is your reason? on: August 30, 2023, 01:52:39 PM
I am in the category of people who will not collect profit now when we eventually get out of this market situation we are in now. For example, I have already set my goal of what I will buy next year after the halving when bitcoin's price increases. I need to reward myself for delaying gratification. I have written the amount of profit I would take and right now it is not there yet. This may be different from other people like I have met but we all have different philosophies.
That means you set a long term investment standard for the investment approach taken in bitcoin. Correct me if that's wrong because as I understand you have an accumulation period after Halvings and overall you have accumulated great profits for the previous process of holding bitcoins, of course this is a good step if you are trying to accumulate a large amount of purchases, but when the availability of capital If you have a small one, the profit you get will not be too big either. I mean there is a DCA strategy that you can use as a step to keep collecting and you also don't need to have too much capital every time you want to buy regularly.

This is just a suggestion that maybe I myself also apply and as you said that everyone has their own philosophy and strategy in seeing the investment opportunities that are undertaken. But I think trying to adopt some strategies to give us profit looks better because it will increase the ownership of bitcoin assets that we have. This method is one of the easier approaches to take because we don't need large capital and also don't have to wait for a correct to try to accumulate.
You comprehend long-term assets after reading Halvings, which is smart. In the realm of bitcoin, digital money is pure like beautiful writing. Raw and intense, but founded on information and faith. Like you said, DCA has been used for a long time. Not only the wealthiest can save using it. That's what makes it great? Even with little money or time, you may get into the digital age's treasure. Unlike paper currencies, it shares wealth to more individuals. Investing frequently makes sense regardless of bitcoin price
Every plan has benefits and cons. DCA lets you increase your assets without a lot of money, but the market's instability can affect it. Having trust and clinging on is romantic. Business diversification is also crucial. Waiting for a remedy may not always be the best option, but what if it never comes?

Plans are tools in the end. A trader has multiple ways to make money, like a writer with multiple pens. According to our knowledge, Bitcoin is more than money. An notion, trust in autonomy and decentralisation. Everyone has their own ideas and methods, as you indicated. Combining approaches may be the answer in this vast sea of unknown, even if it goes against logic. Isn't that what makes bitcoin great? Like a story that deviates from the conventional but still engages the reader
3574  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin movement: my thought on: August 30, 2023, 01:09:24 PM
Bitcoin, at its core, is a digital revolution, a global shift, if you will, in how we think about and trade value. It's interesting that football, a game that millions of people love, is being used to spread the word about Bitcoin.

Still, your idea is interesting, but I need to add a detailed economic perspective. When a club decides to pay its players in Bitcoin, aren't we mixing up association and cause? The funds of a club are complicated. Adding Bitcoin to their payment system could change the way financial variables work, which could cause problems that weren't expected.

But when it comes to ads, it was a stroke of genius to combine the wide appeal of football with the future appeal of Bitcoin. But let's think about it: Will it help people understand or just make them more well-known?

Mixing the old (like sports) with the new (like Bitcoin) is beautiful in and of itself. Still, we need to be careful, because when we jump into the unknown of innovation, we might not always be able to see how it will affect the world economy.
3575  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lessons Taken from Previous Bull Markets: How Will Your Approach Change? on: August 30, 2023, 12:31:33 PM
in 2021 the price of bitcoin rose high and formed a new ath, and at that time many people were making huge profits from investing in btc.

and of course we have to take lessons from this incident and now
we are in a market that I think is recovering after being in a bear market for so long, and of course we also have to be prepared for what is going to happen with btc in the future whether to repeat its price history. rise to $69k as it happens in 2021 or not.

and to be honest I personally have prepared as much btc as I can to sell in the next bull market. and in terms of investing in btc I don't want to be greedy, when there is a profit during a bull market, I will sell it little by little and gradually. because we won't know whether btc will form a new ath exceeding the btc price in 2021 when the market is a bull run or not.
It's important to keep in mind that past results don't guarantee future results. Even while we have some optimism that the market is improving, it's still a gamble. Your choice to progressively sell Bitcoin during a bull market shows that you have acquired the skill of controlling greed, an emotion that has frequently fooled even experienced investors.

And why not just get ready to sell? Have you given any thought to using your Bitcoin for real-world purposes, such as loan collateral or taking part in Defi? Alternatives exist to cashing out. Because of this, Bitcoin functions as both a currency and a financial ecosystem.
3576  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has Bitcoin Helped Create Big Changes In Your Life? on: August 30, 2023, 12:13:21 PM
I also object when someone says that bitcoin is the safest investment, because no investment is safe and can yield high returns, the higher the return, the higher the risk. To be fair, bitcoin is the most potential investment but also has the highest risk.

Bitcoin investments need to be held for years to yield good returns but saying it is not a get-rich-quick scheme is not entirely true. We don't choose gold or other investments and choose bitcoin because we want high returns and want to get rich quick. After all, profits from bitcoin are still generated faster than other investments, we should not deny that fact.
Its too risk when promoting with bitcoin is the safest investment how beginner get misunderstanding respond, actually its right with bitcoin is safest investment but not promising with profitable in short time and bigger are waiting for when bitcoin drop. Bitcoin helped many people trough their investment increasing up drastically but they need longer time waiting moment for selling bitcoin and how beginner expectation when talking about bitcoin is safest investment.

No all investment are secure right now not only cryptocurrency or other investment kinds, depend how our self manage with emotion and lack knowledge or not when investing in something. Invest in Bitcoin have to controlling well and understand with bitcoin when right time for investing and selling.
I've always been a proponent of innovation, growth, and change. The promise of Bitcoin goes beyond just getting rapid money. I've seen regular people talk about Bitcoin as though it were the lotto. Not at all. Although Bitcoin represents a revolution, it is also an investment, and investments require time. Who has actually profited from this? They have been patient. They've used a strategic approach.

Although there are risks with every investment, cryptocurrencies are still in their formative years. They have a lot of potential but are moody and unpredictable. We must accept the risks and benefits associated with Bitcoin, just as we did with other sectors of life that underwent transformation. But, and this is where it gets intense, do you dive in without being fully informed? That is not only risky, but it also sets you up for failure.
3577  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: presuring someone into Bitcoin investment on: August 30, 2023, 11:53:34 AM
We all know that bitcoin is good but people who are not well experienced about bitcoin don't want to understand even if we teach them. Since you told your mother about Bitcoin years ago and expressed interest in investing but your mother rejected them. But since your mother spent a long time doing research, she may have used that time and called you later to be interested in investing. However, we have seen many people who initially spoke negatively about Bitcoin and later became interested in full-fledged investment after doing research. But nowadays most of the people are most interested in investing, you will see people in present age if they are told about bitcoin they easily understand it and invest. But I think it's better not to force people if they don't agree to invest after telling them enough about Bitcoin. Although initially rejected when they were taught about Bitcoin, it was later seen that after thorough research, they again thought positively about Bitcoin and expressed interest in investing.
People of different ages not understanding and accepting Bitcoin is a problem. Your mother may be unsure at first, but she changes her mind after learning more. The excursion is popular, which is comforting. You're right; people should be pushed to learn, but forcing agreement is bad. Investing in Bitcoin is both social and business. A group tries to transform money to make the world fairer. Not everyone initially agrees. A typical logical fallacy is thinking you can easily explain Bitcoin's value to everyone. Your mother and others must go where they must. Give sceptics freedom to study. Bitcoin's change-power will eventually work. Be careful, friends, for the hazards are tremendous. Every rise may bring a fall.
3578  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: After all these years on: August 30, 2023, 11:34:00 AM
Each coin is created with a different purpose and a partnership between XRP or Chainlink with banks is not an achievement to be praised or boasted about. Because they completely go against the decentralization concepts that bitcoin has created for us and it is lame to compare bitcoin to those shitcoins.

The path for bitcoin to become a payment method is increasingly remote, but if only to achieve that goal must cooperate with banks or become centralized, I am completely against it. Personally, I never expected bitcoin to lose its decentralization.
I am also seeing the possibility that once bitcoin will be globally accepted as a mode of payment, which means having partnership with banks and other centralized financial institutions, then we will no longer see bitcoin as completely decentralized crypto but maybe less decentralized by then. When that happens, I’m sure a lot of us will feel bad for it and expect that privacy and anonymity will be put at risk.

But I don't think that will happen. I mean, altcoins are controlled by a company or an individual while bitcoin is controlled by the entire community. It can be said that altcoins were centralized from the beginning, and all decisions were made by one person, but that cannot happen with bitcoin. Bitcoin maximalists would never agree to let bitcoin become centralized just for the sake of becoming a currency. They will not compromise with the government, that is what is happening and they will maintain that position.

If bitcoin becomes centralized then that is really bad and that is the end of the decentralized system.
news, including that of Bitcoin Spot ETF approval or rejection, is just one tile in a mosaic of market influencers. News can act as a catalyst, but its the underlying market liquidity and capital flows that truly drive momentum.

You're absolutely right; new investors should be cautious not to fall into the emotional traps set by sensational news. Keep an eye on the bigger picture, understand the economic levers at play, and the market's natural ebb and flow will become less intimidating. Remember, its not about timing the market; it about time in the market.
3579  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: No, Elon Musk's SpaceX Isn't the Cause of This Multi-Billion-Dollar Bloodbath on: August 29, 2023, 01:58:13 PM
Whenever the price of Bitcoin goes down ,there are endless rumours in the market . Whatever news is there ,not a single news on social media proves that the price of Bitcoin has decreased because of this .Yes of course it will give us all a joy which is going to happen soon if it becomes an ETF proof then Bitcoin will become a legal asset if it happens then it's price will go into million which we all Bitcoin will give you a very nice surprise.When Bitcoin becomes a legal asset, all investors will jump on it , then Bitcoin making it a shining of star .
You always have reasons why market goes down as market makers will give you news to find reasons. Social media is their tool to spread their prepared explanations on reason of market movements that is part of their plans for market manipulation.

Market can go up and down with many news, Bitcoin Spot ETF approval or rejection is only one of news types and actually is not real reason of market movement. Market needs to have cash flow in and out to make up its momentum. If it does not have enough fresh capital in, it will lose momentum and price will start to decrease after that.

People who don't have enough experience will feel very excited with news about Bitcoin Spot ETF approval and highly disappointed or fearful when a rejection is released on social media. Approval or rejection, the market is still lively and continue to grow more so if they don't read news on social media, they will feel better and won't panic sell or FOMO buy.
Market makers certainly use these channels to drive the narrative. But you see, its not always nefarious. Information asymmetry exists in all markets; its the lifeblood of trading. You mentioned Bitcoin Spot ETFs; yes, their approval or rejection isnt the sole factor affecting market dynamics. Market momentum is a function of cash flow - fresh capital in and old capital out. If the balance is disrupted, the market corrects itself.

People get swayed by headlines because they lack the broader perspective. The market has its own pulse, independent of hourly updates. Investment decisions should be rooted in comprehensive research, not just breaking news. Ignore the noise; focus on fundamentals.
3580  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hong Kong officially launches its first Bitcoin and crypto trading platform on: August 29, 2023, 01:36:04 PM
This news makes me happy because I've always believed in Bitcoin. A democratisation of access to these digital assets is shown by the choice to cater to retail customers.

Such tactical actions strengthen Hong Kong's status as a financial powerhouse in addition to opening up a world of investment opportunities for common people. Its intriguing to watch the interplay between the emergence of digital currencies on the one hand, and the complex market dynamics at play as businesses compete to profit from this expanding sector.

And can we just appreciate for a second how crazy it is to aspire for a $1 billion valuation? absolutely outstanding This kind of bold thinking will advance the cryptocurrency movement and transform it from a niche hobby to a crucial part of the world' financial system.
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