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35681  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: July 20, 2015, 02:36:07 PM
Smiley okey. i want to tell you about this. ISLAM not HATE cristiant people, atheis, and the other.
but, in this positions, like a road there is many limb, and THEY ARE is unmissing understand about what the mean in AL-Qur'an and HAdist from My Prophet Muhammad abseloutely. The Pillars of ISlam there is no Jihad make a warfare, bombardment, and etc.
understand about this not of all Muslim like that..
we love peace, and we not problemity about a deferrent you are, and what your religion, we not problemity with that.
we can life side by side.
even, there is cristiant and islam have merried. its okey.. life is choice.
we can to choice but after we control by the choice we have choose right?
and Islam hate too the people like make damage with name of "ISLAM" cause ISLAM not lesson about that.
even in Al-Qur'an there is verse about "NOT MAKE DAMAGE IN THE EARTH"
even, The Prophet make a model the very perfect for we, if we should not with each other haveing warfare, if we can pacification with other, why not?
they just the people not understand what te mean about JIHAD. JIHAD is not like that. Islam is very beautyfull for me, and for the people understand about it. thanks, i just tell what i fell, i hope this benefit for us. sorry i dont wanna make hostility.  Wink


Your comment is welcome. No hostility. Don't let the salafi movement speak for you.

 Smiley



I agree whole heartedly but must point out.

1.  In the Western world, assertions of well intentioned Muslims to the contrary, the word "JIHAD" is completely hijacked and refers strictly to terrorist acts.  That can't be changed.

2.  In the Western world, the phrase "Allah Akbar" has increasingly been associated with terrorist acts.

So these bad guys really are trying to hijack your religion.  Complete denial of this, as some here have done, is not a step forward.

http://www.shutterstock.com/s/ostrich+head+in+sand/search.html

Right! The honest, more-truthful-Islamic Muslims are trying to hijack Islam from those who are far weaker in the Islamic faith... the ones who are peaceful.

You can't be a strong Muslim unless you accept ALL the tenets of the Islamic faith... even the violence directives.

Smiley

EDIT: Perhaps if Muslims edited the violence directives out of the Quran and the Hadiths, then peaceful Muslims could be the TRUE Muslims.
35682  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The USA is now the world’s second largest Spanish-speaking country on: July 20, 2015, 02:32:04 PM
Every immigrants will bring their own native language to talk to each other, but it doesn't mean the native US people should learn their language. The number of spanish speakers is be bigger because of their population growth, not because schools has taught it in US.

It just shows the complete failure of the system in the United States. Rather than assimilating the migrants by teaching them English, the Americans have made it mandatory (at least in a few places) for the natives to learn Spanish. Right now, the migrants don't learn English, becasue they feel no need to do so.

Unfortunately, this is not a failure in the system of the United States. Rather, it is a failure in the people of the United States in controlling the few who control the U.S. government. It is the success of the few wealthy who control the government in their ever-expanding attempts to bring ALL of the freedom of U.S. Americans down.

Smiley
35683  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The USA is now the world’s second largest Spanish-speaking country on: July 20, 2015, 02:27:36 PM
We, English-speaking Americans, should learn Spanish.

The Spanish language, because it is different than English, exemplifies a different way of thinking about life. Understand that if you delve deeply into leaning Spanish, your outlook on life will change a little, just as the Spanish language is that of a different culture and society.

There is nothing wrong with this. But if you want to keep your cultural heritage when you learn Spanish, you need to keep an eye on the way it is changing some of your basic concepts of living.

Overall, it is a good idea to learn basic Spanish.

Smiley
35684  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: July 20, 2015, 02:20:31 PM
Religion is good until don't go to the extremism.
In the age of Reason in which we now live, superstition itself has become the extreme. Religion is superstition, ergo theism is extremism.

Theism displayed on the internet is farcical, approaching dark comedy.

I myself I'm not a believer. I'm a reasoner. Even such I don't think we are in the age of Reason. The world is far way from acting as a "reasoner" one. There are to many wars and conflicts. There are to many misunderstandings and injustice. So we are decades and hundred decades far way from being a normal world.
It feels like we're not there because we've only just begun. Modern reason is an infant at only 300 or so years old, the internet is not even visible on the historical timescale yet it's so new.
Nevertheless, here we are,  and our world is growing less violent and more compassionate with each passing year.

You are completely ignoring the fact that entropy works on the minds of man the same as it works on everything else. This means that the mind of man was able to reason far better thousands of years ago than it is today.

This fact is being shown by Graham Hancock and a few others who are proving that a worldwide trading organization called Atlantis existed about 12,500 years ago. These archaeologists are showing how people of the world back then had some science that is in advance of some of ours.

Our age of reason is a bit retarded from that of the people of Atlantis, because of entropy. We are blindly investigating all science to find the specific things that will give us control of the world. Back then their more capable reasoning allowed them to know which sciences to examine to get the results that they were looking for... a one-world government.

Youtube search on "Graham Hancock" to view his beginnings of investigation, that are starting to show us the ways of reasoning used by the people of Atlantis, that caused God to destroy them without leaving us their history, in the distant prehistoric past. (Note: Hancock doesn't seem to recognize how much God is against the thinking ways of the people of ancient Atlantis.)

Smiley
35685  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: July 20, 2015, 01:57:58 PM
okey, this topic is very hurd.
It's extremely easy.

Is there any evidence for an invisible Sky Father? No.
There is complexity in everything. We see this complexity, but we see no way for the complexity to exist. The complexity is so extremely great in mankind that we can produce marvels of thinking.

We see nothing but entropy in everything without seeing any way for the complexity to exist. The mind of man was more complex in the past because entropy is neutralizing it just like everything else.

We see nothing but cause and effect, action and reaction in everything. Everything that exists has been caused by something that existed before it.

The above doesn't necessarily prove God, but it is at least reasonable evidence that God exists. Why? Because entropy would have equalized universal complexity into simplicity long ago if something greater than complexity had not caused the universe to exist.

Since cause and effect is in everything we see, the complexity must have been started by something that is outside of cause and effect. Otherwise the cause and effect would have been neutralized by entropy long ago.

The definition of the word "God" fits whatever it is that created the complexity, thereby overcoming entropy, in cause-and-effect actions that are precise enough that they have lasted for thousands of years, not only in greatness of complexity (quality) and in the countless numbers of of actions (quantity), but also in depth, breadth and scope of the way the whole universe works.


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Is there any evidence for talking snakes? No.
Research shows that animals attempt to talk, and can indeed talk in simple ways. The thing that keeps them from doing so in a way that we understand is the shapes of their mouths, and the strangeness of the talking process. Even on their own, animals talk in their simple languages.


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Is there any evidence for winged sky humans? No.
If "angels" are meant by "winged sky humans," many people have expressed that they have had experience of such. The witnessing that they are doing in their expression of such is evidence of such.


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Case fucking closed.

The case is your mind.

However, thank you for giving me the opportunity to point people in the direction of God a little, through your expression of your simplistic ignorance.

Smiley
35686  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is there such an insurgence of flat-earthers in 2015? on: July 20, 2015, 12:00:32 AM
It's all about people with flat feet needing something stable to walk on.    Grin
35687  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Worst Case Of Police Brutality - EXTREMELY GRAPHIC on: July 19, 2015, 11:53:10 PM
Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz common law" and find out how to make money if you are ever in this position. And if you are killed or hurt so badly that you can't do it yourself, your family members can.

A little taste of how this is done is found in the wording at the right side of this website http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/. If you want to see how well it works, look at these ten videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D. Particularly watch the last video.

Smiley
35688  Other / Politics & Society / Re: America country of cons on: July 19, 2015, 11:44:08 PM
Perhaps you have heard the term "pros and cons." "Pros" means things that you are in favor of. "Cons" are things that you are against.

In the American government there is this thing called Congress. Congress has the ability to control the President if it wants. It has the ability to de-fund the military to stop wars. It has the ability to eliminate income taxes so that people have more money to get out of the financial depression we are in. And Congress has the ability to get rid of the Federal Reserve Bank - the fiat money system - that is corrupting the whole world with its wicked money practices. But Congress won't do this.

"Pros and cons." It seems that CONgress is against PROgress.

 Cheesy
35689  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: July 19, 2015, 11:23:39 PM
Here's how Islam will take America down. It won't be by attack. It won't be by infiltration. It will be through sympathy.

Americans are seeing all the activity that Big Oil is using government to do against Muslims in the Middle East. Americans see the pain that America is causing other people. Americans sympathize with these other people. Americans are starting to protest this governmental activity. Soon Americans will do more than simply protest. The will literally seek to stop American government from harming other people.

Once this happens in a bigger way than it is now, the government will send in the military to stop Americans. This will essentially take down the American government, turning America into a civil law country - dictatorship by government. The fact that this is happening already is seen in all the rights Americans seem to be losing.

Smiley

So, America is destroying America?

What is America? Is it the peaceful people? Is it the war mongers? Is it folks who are forced by the war mongers to support the fighting?

It's like asking what is Islam? Some say Islam is totally peaceful. Others among the Muslims show that Islam is violent at times. Even the Islamic writings and holy texts say that Islam is supposed to be violent at times. They even direct Islamites to be violent at times. So, what is Islam?

The war mongers in America think they have found a way to conquer peaceful Americans and make them support the war against Islam. If you truly wanted peace, you would get your American Islamic groups who want peace as well, to study Karl Lentz. Why? Because he has found the way for Americans to stop paying income taxes, to stop supporting excessive U.S. government, and to put down the war monger effect in America thereby. Karl's info is out there. Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz common law."

There isn't any common law in Islamic worlds. Yet, it is the base of the American government, for the American people to limit their government when their government goes nuts. The problem is, most Americans have no idea about how to use their own law.

The keys to American government are the 7th and 9th Articles in the Bill of Rights, which are known as amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

If Americans knew that they could get out from under the burden of taxation, they would do it in a heartbeat. They simply don't believe it is possible. That's why they don't do it.

It is up to you, for the protection of peaceful Islam, to get your people to study everything Karl Lentz says, and understand it in detail, and then spread both the usage of it among your American brothers and sisters, and the training of other Americans.

It will be work. But if you want peace from American war mongers, that's the way to do it. Show Americans how to rid themselves of taxation, thereby eliminating the financing of their own government and war machine.

Smiley
35690  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: July 19, 2015, 10:50:48 PM
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Dogma is our friend, because it gives us a foundation on which to build. Dogma is our enemy when the substance of dogma is incorrect.

That is one way of approaching it, I prefer in the absence of self verified knowledge to keep an open mind. If you keep looking under the same rocks you keep finding the same bugs.

You have more or less asserted several times, now, that you are against dogma. At what point does the strength of your assertion start to bring it into a dogmatic position itself? To see what I mean, take a look at the synonyms and antonyms for the word "dogma" as found in the thesaurus, here http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/dogma.

Smiley
35691  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: July 19, 2015, 02:56:50 AM
Here's how Islam will take America down. It won't be by attack. It won't be by infiltration. It will be through sympathy.

Americans are seeing all the activity that Big Oil is using government to do against Muslims in the Middle East. Americans see the pain that America is causing other people. Americans sympathize with these other people. Americans are starting to protest this governmental activity. Soon Americans will do more than simply protest. The will literally seek to stop American government from harming other people.

Once this happens in a bigger way than it is now, the government will send in the military to stop Americans. This will essentially take down the American government, turning America into a civil law country - dictatorship by government. The fact that this is happening already is seen in all the rights Americans seem to be losing.

Smiley
35692  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: July 19, 2015, 02:36:32 AM
In this case, the problem can't even be solved.
Of course, because death is the problem than can (will) be solved.

One of the things about the death solution that we don't know, and that we should fear is this.

Science bases "life" on the idea that life is a complexity that is physical and energy related. Yet, because we don't know anything about actual, personal life (consciousness?), life might be something that is entirely unrelated to energy and the physical.

What if we overcome death, and the preceding is true? Imagine the untold pain of losing one's limbs, even one's head, without being able to die.

Death might be a gift of the Divine that takes people away from the pain of life when the thing that we call life support (our living bodies) becomes too weak to give us reasonable comfort.

Imagine what it would be like to have your atoms and molecules blown apart in a nuclear action, and yet you are alive in each of them to feel the pain of recognizable dissociation.

Smiley
35693  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: July 19, 2015, 02:23:35 AM
Consciousness is not a phenomena that can be measured or quantified scientifically so you can't ascribe scientific laws to validate or refute free will, you comparing apples with something that isn't tangible.
I agree with this. Standard science suggests that conscious will be able to be quantified and measured in every way some day. Until then, it doesn't exist. We are close to being science heretics if we talk consciousness existence as more than brain and nerve activity.


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The Big Question is: - Is consciousness like energy conserved and transmitted/recycled?  Since there is no definitive answer it remains the prerogative of every individual to form their own opinion. But recognising the universe is alive suggests to me the chances are high. However I must concede this is merely speculation on my part.
Everything that we see operates by cause and effect, action and reaction, as far as we understand it. So far, we see nothing else for a fact.


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Atoms that make up the molecules that make up the amino acids that forms life, all of which are derived from star dust, that is continuously being  reconstituted and expressed/recycled within the living universe. Since we are integral to it and consciousness is an epiphenomena to life it is plausible that it is pervasive throughout the universe. (speculation on my part)
Although we spectrographically see the base chemicals of life in space, we really don't know if such are being remade by stars. Lots of theory. Lots of ideas. But no real knowledge... yet.

Perhaps it is through the cause and effect that produces our thinking that the Divine makes known to us all kinds of things about the cause and effect of operations in the universe.


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Dogma remains our greatest enemy.

Dogma is our friend, because it gives us a foundation on which to build. Dogma is our enemy when the substance of dogma is incorrect.

Smiley
35694  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Transgender on: July 18, 2015, 08:34:20 PM
Right.

Generally, one of the same-sex partners is more masculine, and the other is more feminine.

Let the more masculine of the male couple get together with the more feminine of the female couple, and let the more masculine of the female couple get together with the more feminine of the male couple, and things are back to normal... the way they should be.

 Roll Eyes
35695  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: July 18, 2015, 08:09:07 PM
Lol, what the heck, dude.  One paragraph...


The opposite reaction is therefore, not real.

... vs. other paragraph

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Newton's Third Law is about action and reaction, cause and effect.

You're not even trying anymore.  Go lay down or something.

electrons, electrolytes, chemicals, all working in the brain = reality = action

free will = illusion = reaction

For every ACTION there is an equal and opposite REACTION.

Reaction opposite action.
Illusion opposite reality.
Free will opposite brain activity.

Smiley
35696  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Memphis Mayor Wants to Dig Up Dead Confederate War General on: July 18, 2015, 12:09:07 AM
Most mayors don't get near enough exercise, and it is hurting their health. Get him a shovel...

 Cheesy
35697  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you accept the evidence of No Global Warming? on: July 18, 2015, 12:01:39 AM
This is the conclusion I have come to when it comes to climate change now, the science has been completely poisoned because of the amount of propaganda from both sides instead of simply stating what we do know and what we don't know. In other words all these fuckers including you lot who have turned this into a political problem are responsible for fucking over the planet one way or another if we don't find out for certain what's going on with our planet, congratulations.

Oh relax. Sure it is fun feeling bitter about things that you can do nothing about. But feel good that you are among the few who understand this about global warming, or whatever it is.

Smiley
35698  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This frozen chicken “had a rich, emotional life.” on: July 17, 2015, 11:59:03 PM
I am totally NOT against the idea of some group of scientists actually finding a possible method or complete scenario or complete flow regarding evolution. While I am not actually hoping for it, I certainly wouldn't mind if somebody found a complete way that evolution could have happened, from the start of inorganic to life, to the life that we have today. In fact, I would like it if several of these methods were found.

It would prove that God had created mankind so great that they could even find out how to make life evolve. Of course, then there would be the problem of proving that evolution actually did the job, and not God.

Smiley

Tell you what, why not rewrite the bible (which is okay because it's been done before) and add a bit of evolution into the story line.
You can then fully believe the theory 100%. Cheesy



The Bible does not mention darwin's theory but I would (personally) read this as if a man was trying to explain to an ant what the fabric of life was 'coming from', atomic dust particles:

By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”


Are we really all made of stardust?


That will be it as far as my Sunday's teaching...

 Cheesy





Earth dust, like the stars are.

Smiley

We are ugly bags of mostly starwater. Wink
https://youtu.be/gBuyqM5u2GY

Which btw, has memory and structure.
https://youtu.be/YwaNfNcurvQ

Now think about what that dark pagan blood ritual sacrifice/ dinner is doing to your body's water.

All I meant is, that when you read the account of the creation in Genesis in the Bible, it seems to say that all material in the universe was one big chunk. Then God separated it into whatever different kinds of bodies exist in all space. But... when God does this, He does it from a standpoint of the earth, that all the materials came from the earth, this earth.

Smiley
35699  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you accept the evidence of No Global Warming? on: July 17, 2015, 11:54:58 PM



I am a big believer in the Anthropogenic Global Warming "project". Huge, mega believer. What is 21 years in the lifetime of a planet? Nothing. Satellite technology is what? So new and untested. But we can stop it. We can stop the Anthropogenic Global Warming "project". Also it is unscientific to deny the Anthropogenic Global Warming "project". Borderline illegal and even racist...


I accept the evidence of No No Global Warming...

 Cool

LOL...


<<serious mode off>>
Now that's a Fine Outstanding Comment, Young Man.  You can go far.

I'll put a good word in for you with the Kommisar.

<<serious  mode on>>

I will NOT argue the issues in this thread.

I'm sticking to asking the questions in the OP.

However, in the original hard copy of Larry Niven's Fallen Angels (science fiction), Niven and his fellow writers included a bibliography of, say, a dozen and a half scientific writings that show that we are on the edge of a little ice age. Standard science of today is showing that whatever global warming exists, the rate of warming increase is slowing down.

Smiley
35700  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Rapture/ Comet Predictions, JADE HELM / CERN, Revelation Prophecies on: July 17, 2015, 11:48:36 PM
Someone called into a show with a prophecy directed at the United States.

Some background into why I feel this is real, personally. I had previously had a dream in May, and I felt like I needed to write it down, and it came out rhyming. I wasn't going to rhyme, it just did, and I felt like it was divinely inspired. So when I heard this in rhyme, among everything else I'm reading and watching, this rings true to me as a message from God. But you can use your own discernment.

I tried to write it down, but I couldn't understand a few words (They'll show up as Huh), you can listen to her saying it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi_HZJgywhk



I've called you a land filled with beauty, righteousness, freedom and peace.

I've called you a nation filled with boldness, whose foundations were built at my feet.

I've called you a people who are blessed. In my name I've caused thee made known.

And your churches, schools, governmental and judicial system my Huh of prayer were sold Huh

You were a lamb unlike no other, who leaned solely upon me, how is it that you are now perverted, and your character is rebellion, murder, lust, and deceit?

Do you not know that I will judge you?

Yea, my decree has already been declared, and this is the beginning ("first pains" or "workings")Huh of your destruction, that you have served and hearkened until the prince of the ear Huh.

Your sins you call religious freedom, to justify your wicked deeds and the stench of your violence reaches up to heaven so that other nations you do supersede.

But I will shake your very foundation, and belittle Huh it and naked ye shall stand, for I have come unto my threshing floor, and my (Huh) of purge is in my right hand.

You will no longer declare we are our own god, and shall do whatsoever we please. For my wrath had been Huh and I will not repent. Yes for this your soul shall be grieved.

Oh America, America I call you to repent, to take heed and do not mock the prophets that I have sent, for they have come to sound the alarm, and a sweet sound they shall make, for we are no longer one nation under God and my judgement I will surely haste. Because I have set my grace upon you, yes, this your home sweet home. But your backslipping ways, and your evil witchcraft have come before my throne.

Captivity and destruction doth await for this nation that is Huh and proud. Yea, I plead with you to turn again and let repentance ring out loud.

Gather together with your little ones and let a funeral dearth be Huh that death may cast over America and that the Lord will cover her shame. For a Holy nation He has purpose, America the gospel to tell, that she would not be like other nations that forgot God and were cast into hell.

Oh home of the brave and land of the free, choose you this day, whom your God shall be.


I understand similar. Your "poem" is great. However...

In the Old Testament, there are several times when people or kings defied God and He pronounced similar things on them as your poem. Then they repented and humbled themselves, and God had mercy on them, and didn't bring His disasters on the land in their times.

The fact that you and I and a few others in this forum are attempting to turn people to what is right, is an indicator that God might again, forestall His disaster, saving them up for a later time. There is even the possibility that if enough people turn, He might repent of His disasters until a much later date.

Consider that most of the signs of the end times have been around for hundreds of years, even though they might not have been around in quantities we see today. We don't know His timing for sure. He can keep His Word by bringing it now, or by bringing it later.

Smiley
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